UK versus Canada

[topspin]

Who?

Lol Tableeghi-e-Jamat

 

[topspin]

No place in Canada beats London.

If we're talking Canada v outside London, then I would rather be in Canada.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] sorry mate, but England is very dingy!

Not at the moment. It's been scorching weather for the past week, and looks like being another really hot summer overall. With other parts of the world overheating disastrously due to global warming, the UK might well be one of the most temperate climates anywhere over the coming years.

 

[Syed1]

No place in Canada beats London.

If we're talking Canada v outside London, then I would rather be in Canada.

London for the most part is cramped, dingy and poor (you can say that about any large city). Though some parts are very posh, historic and some of the most iconic places in the world. So its not like ALL of London is spectacular. Also London's underground metro system is miles better than Toronto (however, Toronto is building 2-3 more lines in the next decade)

 

[Syed1]

One place where Toronto has London beat is skyline. Toronto skyline is absolutely epic and even rivals some of the larger US cities.

Even Montreal has a very, very good skyline:

 

[sweep_shot]

Canada's landmass - 9,984,670 square kilometers.
UK's landmass - 242,495 square kilometers.

Canada's population - around 37-million.
UK's population - around 66-million.

 

[Robert]

One place where Toronto has London beat is skyline. Toronto skyline is absolutely epic and even rivals some of the larger US cities.

I went up that tower when the Skydome was being built beneath it.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

Why would you want to live in country when 6 months in the year its very very very very cold...

Uk for me..

 

[xbronze]

New-England/Mid-Atlantic, Midwest and Northwest.

Fairly similar to the UK in terms of architecture, weather, diversity, etc.

My recommended cities would be in order:
New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, and Boston.

Stay away from Southern U.S.A., places like Florida and Texas. Even though Miami and Houston are two of the best U.S. cities, I would avoid that part of the country. The weather is extremely hot, everything is very spread out (like driving 40 min to a restaurant for a quick dinner), and people are generally way more conservative. It is cheaper and overall not bad, but for someone from UK it's a no.

And I don't think you would like Los Angeles. It's not for everyone.

Have to disagree. You do NOT have to drive 40 minutes to a restaurant in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Boca Raton. More like 2 minutes or 5 minutes.

What you said may apply to parts of Texas, certainly not most of Florida, and definitely not south Florida (Miami, FLL, Boca).

I have been to/travelled across a big chunk of the US. The absolute best part of the U.S. in my opinion is New England (New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island). Nature at its best, great culture, architecture, wonderful people, organized, best universities in the world, some amazing cities, nice rural idyllic towns.

Other great areas - California (and the rest of the west coast - Washington state/Seattle, Vermont), Colorado.

California is like a country in itself (It has mountains, snow, desert, ocean, beaches. San Jose / San Francisco area very different from the Southern CA/Los Angeles area)

Of all the states I have been to in the US, I rate one state the best overall. FLORIDA. specifically south Florida (Fort Lauderdale, Miami area). Great weather year round (can get a bit cold for a couple weeks in Jan/Feb). Amazing beaches. Nice roads. Lots of attractions. Great Art scene. Truly multicultural. Miami has the highest concentration of foreign banks in the US. Miami is also the city with the 3rd highest number of skyscrapers, among US cities. Cruise Capital of the world. Very clean city (and state), especially for the number of visitors it attracts.

Things are co-located, so you don't have to drive for miles upon miles to get some place (unless you are in the everglades/alligator alley, which is left untouched as a nature preserve). Lots to do on the east coast and the west coast, and also in between (Orlando - Disney, Universal studios).

 

[Savak]

So much for free health care. Am seeing the govt sponsored caregivers we have been provided for 20 hours per week for mom and they are mostly obnoxious, rude and not really interested in high quality care

 

[Pakistanian]

Have to disagree. You do NOT have to drive 40 minutes to a restaurant in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Boca Raton. More like 2 minutes or 5 minutes.

What you said may apply to parts of Texas, certainly not most of Florida, and definitely not south Florida (Miami, FLL, Boca).

I have been to/travelled across a big chunk of the US. The absolute best part of the U.S. in my opinion is New England (New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island). Nature at its best, great culture, architecture, wonderful people, organized, best universities in the world, some amazing cities, nice rural idyllic towns.

Other great areas - California (and the rest of the west coast - Washington state/Seattle, Vermont), Colorado.

California is like a country in itself (It has mountains, snow, desert, ocean, beaches. San Jose / San Francisco area very different from the Southern CA/Los Angeles area)

Of all the states I have been to in the US, I rate one state the best overall. FLORIDA. specifically south Florida (Fort Lauderdale, Miami area). Great weather year round (can get a bit cold for a couple weeks in Jan/Feb). Amazing beaches. Nice roads. Lots of attractions. Great Art scene. Truly multicultural. Miami has the highest concentration of foreign banks in the US. Miami is also the city with the 3rd highest number of skyscrapers, among US cities. Cruise Capital of the world. Very clean city (and state), especially for the number of visitors it attracts.

Things are co-located, so you don't have to drive for miles upon miles to get some place (unless you are in the everglades/alligator alley, which is left untouched as a nature preserve). Lots to do on the east coast and the west coast, and also in between (Orlando - Disney, Universal studios).

Florida has too many weird repitles like snakes, gators and insects. I've heard it's really common see them in your backyard. It's the same reason why I wouldn't live in Alaska or the midwest cause of grizzly bears being all over the place.

 

[sweep_shot]

Florida has too many weird repitles like snakes, gators and insects. I've heard it's really common see them in your backyard. It's the same reason why I wouldn't live in Alaska or the midwest cause of grizzly bears being all over the place.

Florida has massive gator problem. Not sure about snakes.

Florida also has nasty hurricanes and other natural disasters due to it being in coastal region.

Never want to live there. Too crazy.

 

[Pakistanian]

Florida has massive gator problem. Not sure about snakes.

Florida also has nasty hurricanes and other natural disasters due to it being in coastal region.

Never want to live there. Too crazy.

I've heard Florida has big issues with pythons and anacondas which are invasive species, both of those snakes are very lethal.

 

[sweep_shot]

I've heard Florida has big issues with pythons and anacondas which are invasive species, both of those snakes are very lethal.

Only good thing about Florida is the fact you probably do not get any real snow there. Weather is pretty moderate and nice.

 

[Pakistanian]

Only good thing about Florida is the fact you probably do not get any real snow there. Weather is pretty moderate and nice.

lol the weather isn't moderate or nice, it's hot and extremely humidity. The humidity makes it feel sticky and makes then heat 10x more unbearable. All seeing green trees all year round can be boring, some of us like all four seasons. When it's green all year round then you don't see fall foliage nor does spring have any significance .

 

[Rayyman]

lol the weather isn't moderate or nice, it's hot and extremely humidity. The humidity makes it feel sticky and makes then heat 10x more unbearable. All seeing green trees all year round can be boring, some of us like all four seasons. When it's green all year round then you don't see fall foliage nor does spring have any significance .

To add to the Florida hate,

Most of the population is old people, and the drivers there are terrible. They have long red lights and I heard there have been many car accidenta due to people running them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

lol the weather isn't moderate or nice, it's hot and extremely humidity. The humidity makes it feel sticky and makes then heat 10x more unbearable. All seeing green trees all year round can be boring, some of us like all four seasons. When it's green all year round then you don't see fall foliage nor does spring have any significance .

One of the things I really love about the UK, you get all four seasons, although perhaps winter could be a bit better defined, sometimes it just feels like one long autumn. Agree with you about Florida, while I am sure it must be nice at times of the year, would probably be too hot and sticky for a lot of it.California seems more pleasant year round.

 

[topspin]

lol the weather isn't moderate or nice, it's hot and extremely humidity. The humidity makes it feel sticky and makes then heat 10x more unbearable. All seeing green trees all year round can be boring, some of us like all four seasons. When it's green all year round then you don't see fall foliage nor does spring have any significance .

You obviously haven't been Miami then

 

[Pakistanian]

To add to the Florida hate,

Most of the population is old people, and the drivers there are terrible. They have long red lights and I heard there have been many car accidenta due to people running them.

lol yeaah and not to forget, the Florida man memes. Florida is always in the news for weird reasons

 

[Pakistanian]

One of the things I really love about the UK, you get all four seasons, although perhaps winter could be a bit better defined, sometimes it just feels like one long autumn. Agree with you about Florida, while I am sure it must be nice at times of the year, would probably be too hot and sticky for a lot of it.California seems more pleasant year round.

I doubt the UK gets all fours seasons, that's more of a north american thing since we have so many different climatic regions. The UK is rainy and overcast most times of the year when it's not winter apart from the occasional and shortlive heatwave that y'all get but that's an exception.

I remember some south african cricketer saying the climate in England is 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad weather (Rain) lol.

 

[Pakistanian]

You obviously haven't been Miami then

Lol you obviously haven't been to tampa, orlando or jacksonville then. Even if you did go to miami you only visited for a short period in a certain time of the year otherwise you'd know Miami is known for it's humidity.

 

[xbronze]

Florida has too many weird repitles like snakes, gators and insects. I've heard it's really common see them in your backyard. It's the same reason why I wouldn't live in Alaska or the midwest cause of grizzly bears being all over the place.

Lived in Florida for 15 years. Never once saw a snake anywhere (except at the pet shop). One of our neighbors sighted an alligator in the canal behind their house. Alligators gain remain in canals or in ponds on Golf courses, feeding on fishes and turtles. Some communities feed the alligators in their canals/ponds, which is not recommended.

You could sight lots of ducks and some turtles that bask in the sun on the banks of canals and ponds. Canadian geese are common a few months each year in Florida as they migrate to Florida to escape the harsh Canada weather.

We once had a pair of beautiful brown Canadian geese make an emergency landing on our back yard as one of them suffered an injury and walked with a very pronounced limp. It also dragged one of its wings along the ground. This pair was adopted by the gaggle of Florida ducks in our backyard, and we fed the birds. It took a few months for the injured bird to get well. The able bodied Canadian goose would take off each day but returned in the evening to its partner. Then one day, few months after they first landed, when the injured goose had fully recovered, the two of them took off, possibly back home to Canada.

You can see iguanas in south Florida. These are those huge green garden lizards that can grow several feet in length. But they are shy and keep to themselves and avoid people.

In the everglades (which is the 7800 square miles of Florida marsh land, actually a shallow lake of grass, declared a nature preserve), you do have those large Burmese pythons that feed on everything there in the glades including birds, fishes, turtles and alligators. These pythons can grow up to 17 feet, hide themselves well and are virtually impossible to spot in the marshy glades. There is a famous picture taken from a seaplane of a large python that devoured a similar sized alligator in the everglades, after which the alligator's limbs/claws penetrated through the pythons body, rendering the python dead. The Burmese pythons are not sighted in human habitats and are limited to the everglades. At least as of yet.

Insects have not been noticeable much. A few spiders dangling from the Lychee, Guava, and Mango trees in the backyard, is all. And the odd sighting of a wall lizard. A variant of the garden lizard sighted in the subcontinent is common in south Florida.

As for Hurricanes in Florida, there was a lull/near absence for 10 years, and then we have had a few over the past few years. I prefer hurricanes to tornadoes/twisters and earthquakes. That is because you get advance information for hurricanes.

If you live outside the hurricane evacuation zone [that is the trick that folks buying homes need to consider, buy homes outside hurricane evacuation zones] and install hurricane windows in your house, you are all set. You can watch the hurricane come and go and enjoy life as normal, watching TV. That is what we did these past few years. Have tea and samosas/dosa watch the hurricane come and go.

Other than the hurricanes, Florida weather is just like Mumbai weather. In Mumbai you get torrential rain a few months of the year. In Florida you get rains once every few days, especially during Summer when it rains almost daily in the afternoon. But no matter how hard it rains, the Florida rain ends pretty quick.

Florida's other claims to fame:

Boating/yachting capital of the world (Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
Golf capital of the world (Myrtle beach, Florida)
Tennis capital of the world
Theme park capital of the world (Orlando, Florida)
Cruise capital of the world

 

[xbronze]

To add to the Florida hate,

Most of the population is old people, and the drivers there are terrible. They have long red lights and I heard there have been many car accidenta due to people running them.

Actually 23% of the Florida population is over 60 yrs of age. But I totally understand where you get that perception from. That is because a lot of people (snowbirds) visit Florida during the winter to escape harsh weather back home (especially from Canada and New York/New England). Some of them also fall in love with Florida and relocate to live out their years in the 'Sunshine state'.

Florida leads all US states in the number of inbound cross state migration each year. In other words Florida is the most preferred destination of US residents relocating to another US state.

 

[gazza619]

Lived in the UK for a year and now lived in Canada for 3 years. I enjoyed my time in England but I’d choose Canada any day

And why would you chose Canada? I never been there, been living in the UK for 15 years. Interested to know about Canada.

 

[Pakistanian]

Miami is full of racist white Cubans that vote republican. I've heard miami is one of the rudest cities in America.

 

[Slog]

UK is once-a-great country which has some prestige and reputation from its earlier days but isn’t much now. However that history gets it goodwill and a seat in most tables.

Canada was once the new kid on the block expected to reach great heights and while it did go great places it still seemed to have underachieved and has plateaued.

 

[Syed1]

UK is once-a-great country which has some prestige and reputation from its earlier days but isn’t much now. However that history gets it goodwill and a seat in most tables.

Canada was once the new kid on the block expected to reach great heights and while it did go great places it still seemed to have underachieved and has plateaued.

Well put

 

[Syed1]

And why would you chose Canada? I never been there, been living in the UK for 15 years. Interested to know about Canada.

Greater prosperity, most educated pop in the world (highest percentage of population with minimum bachelors degree), nice friendly people, all four seasons with 5 months of summer being absolutely glorious, 2 months of fall are good as well but 4-5 months of winter are bit torturous. More opportunity to prosper, proximity to biggest economy in the world defo helps, good standard of living easily attainable and cheaper overall.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Having read all the posts, UK is best for me. The sporting culture and facilities are the best in the world. Everything else Canada and US have, the UK does to.

 

[xbronze]

Having read all the posts, UK is best for me. The sporting culture and facilities are the best in the world. Everything else Canada and US have, the UK does to.

But what about the godawful UK weather?

 

[Pakistanian]

Having read all the posts, UK is best for me. The sporting culture and facilities are the best in the world. Everything else Canada and US have, the UK does to.

Lool

The UK doesn't have wide open spaces, big freeways, cheap gas, large affordable houses for the middle class, the world biggest economy. The UK doesn't have any of the major American sports like gridiron football, basketball, baseball, ice hockey, extreme sports like skating and surfing neither does the UK have the geographic and climatic diversity of North America.

 

[KingKhanWC]

But what about the godawful UK weather?

Lool

Its a 4 hr flight to the Canaries or North Africa if you want sun 365 days a year

The UK doesn't have wide open spaces, big freeways, cheap gas, large affordable houses for the middle class, the world biggest economy. The UK doesn't have any of the major American sports like gridiron football, basketball, baseball, ice hockey, extreme sports like skating and surfing neither does the UK have the geographic and climatic diversity of North America.

I am only speaking for myself. I dont have issues with expense, those who do may agree with you.

Dude American sports are rubbish lol. Basketball is ony decent.

Keep in mind UK is part of Europe, we have everything there which the UK doesn't have and it's a drive away. It's quicker for me to drive to go sking from Bham to Europe than it is for many people in US.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

While I prefer Canada, most people are talking about the GTA or places like Vancouver here. Most of Canada is not as tolerant and the political climate of even the GTA isn’t looking good at all

 

[Pakistanian]

While I prefer Canada, most people are talking about the GTA or places like Vancouver here. Most of Canada is not as tolerant and the political climate of even the GTA isn’t looking good at all

True

most of these desis on here barely have any white friends lol, if you ever live in a predominantly white neighborhood you get familiar with their mannerisms and how they think, a lot of times their racism is disguised behind their politeness.

 

[Syed1]

True

most of these desis on here barely have any white friends lol, if you ever live in a predominantly white neighborhood you get familiar with their mannerisms and how they think, a lot of times their racism is disguised behind their politeness.

You show that typical ABCD bias quite often.... not all desis are like the people you meet.


I have sent a year in the remotest part of Alberta, I even met a few folks (yes they were white) who were meeting a coloured person and/or Pakistani for the first time in their lives and I found them to be very warm and friendly.


Keep in mind not everyone is a redneck like the Texans.

 

[Syed1]

Canada has a poverty rate of under 10... 9.5 to be exact

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment...a-reaches-lowest-poverty-rate-in-history.html


While the UK poverty rate is between 17 -22% (in two different measures) as presented to the UK parliament recently

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN07096/SN07096.pdf


Yet another win for Canada.

 

[Rayyman]

You show that typical ABCD bias quite often.... not all desis are like the people you meet.


I have sent a year in the remotest part of Alberta, I even met a few folks (yes they were white) who were meeting a coloured person and/or Pakistani for the first time in their lives and I found them to be very warm and friendly.


Keep in mind not everyone is a redneck like the Texans.

U rite

My area is 70+ percent white people and a lot of them are nice and not racist.

 

[Pakistanian]

U rite

My area is 70+ percent white people and a lot of them are nice and not racist.

Being nice and racist aren't mutually exclusive, people can be nice to you but think muslims are terrorits, black people are to blame for their own issues and that trump has done no wrong.

 

[Pakistanian]

You show that typical ABCD bias quite often.... not all desis are like the people you meet.


I have sent a year in the remotest part of Alberta, I even met a few folks (yes they were white) who were meeting a coloured person and/or Pakistani for the first time in their lives and I found them to be very warm and friendly.


Keep in mind not everyone is a redneck like the Texans.

If you read my comment i said they hide racism behind their politeness. I'm talking about whites all over north america, even in texas we mostly have transplants from california, the midwest and new england, in fact I only know a few generational southerners in my city most people here from other states. People can be super nice and friendly but still support trump.

 

[Slog]

I am only speaking for myself. I dont have issues with expense, those who do may agree with you.

Dude American sports are rubbish lol. Basketball is ony decent.

Keep in mind UK is part of Europe, we have everything there which the UK doesn't have and it's a drive away. It's quicker for me to drive to go sking from Bham to Europe than it is for many people in US.

It’s your opinion whether American sports are rubbish or not.

In any case an objective measure is to see how many people migrate from UK to Canada and vice versa and then you will get your answer. You won’t like it though

 

[Syed1]

It’s your opinion whether American sports are rubbish or not.

In any case an objective measure is to see how many people migrate from UK to Canada and vice versa and then you will get your answer. You won’t like it though

Lmaooo this guy has misplaced priorities, sport isn't even a measure on which countries are judged. Usually it is prosperity, economic opportunity, poverty levels, access to quality health and education etc

 

[Pakistanian]

Lmaooo this guy has misplaced priorities, sport isn't even a measure on which countries are judged. Usually it is prosperity, economic opportunity, poverty levels, access to quality health and education etc

No, let him play his rounders

 

[shaz619]

If you are going to brag about a specific country, at least make sure you are born there #BenefitScroungers #NakliPatriots #Choor #Freshies

 

[Pakistanian]

If you are going to brag about a specific country, at least make sure you are born there #BenefitScroungers #NakliPatriots #Choor #Freshies

lmaoo I was born and raised in America, at least we're not living off welfare

 

[slipcatch]

One place where Toronto has London beat is skyline. Toronto skyline is absolutely epic and even rivals some of the larger US cities.

Even Montreal has a very, very good skyline:

Stop please.

None of the Skyline in Canada rival any of the major city Skyline in US.

Country of 36 Million need to stop competing with country of over 350 Million, California alone has over 39 Million people.

 

[slipcatch]

While I prefer Canada, most people are talking about the GTA or places like Vancouver here. Most of Canada is not as tolerant and the political climate of even the GTA isn’t looking good at all

Agree with you.

Beside GTA and Vancouver Canada has nothing much to show.

Quebec is a prime example how Canada is moving toward to be less tolerant and I won’t be surprise if it reaches to GTA.

 

[RanveerSingh]

Stop please.

None of the Skyline in Canada rival any of the major city Skyline in US.

Country of 36 Million need to stop competing with country of over 350 Million, California alone has over 39 Million people.

California GDP— 2.7 Trillion
Canada GDP— 1.6 Trillion

Population is pretty much same for both of them with a difference of only 3 million

 

[kingusama92]

While I prefer Canada, most people are talking about the GTA or places like Vancouver here. Most of Canada is not as tolerant and the political climate of even the GTA isn’t looking good at all

I disagree.

Stephen Harper tried divisive politics leading into 2015 and got shut down. Trudeau walked all over him. It's become such a concern that Schreer refuses to go anywhere near those topics because he knows it'll destroy his campaign.

Quebec's political climate is not a barometer for Canada as a whole. It's never been. Their politics are French-centric and that issue has been there since 1867. On a national scale, their political influence is meaningless. Bloc Quebecois won 4 seats in 2015 (all in Quebec). This was with 78 potential candidates. Even the Green Party has better vote distribution nationally.

As for the top cities in Canada, the list has to include Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. Banff National Park (Lake Louise) in Alberta deserves a mention too for tourists.

Of course, not everything is rosy in Canada just like anywhere else but it's still a very nice place to live (even outside the cities listed above).

 

[Pakistanian]

California GDP— 2.7 Trillion
Canada GDP— 1.6 Trillion

Population is pretty much same for both of them with a difference of only 3 million

Texas and Canada have the same GDP lol and about 29 million people.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I disagree.

Stephen Harper tried divisive politics leading into 2015 and got shut down. Trudeau walked all over him. It's become such a concern that Schreer refuses to go anywhere near those topics because he knows it'll destroy his campaign.

Quebec's political climate is not a barometer for Canada as a whole. It's never been. Their politics are French-centric and that issue has been there since 1867. On a national scale, their political influence is meaningless. Bloc Quebecois won 4 seats in 2015 (all in Quebec). This was with 78 potential candidates. Even the Green Party has better vote distribution nationally.

As for the top cities in Canada, the list has to include Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. Banff National Park (Lake Louise) in Alberta deserves a mention too for tourists.

Of course, not everything is rosy in Canada just like anywhere else but it's still a very nice place to live (even outside the cities listed above).

How do you explain Doug Ford? (And yes I agree Canada is much better than most places when it comes to tolerance, diversity etc. I just don’t like when people talk about it as some perfect heaven.)

 

[kingusama92]

How do you explain Doug Ford? (And yes I agree Canada is much better than most places when it comes to tolerance, diversity etc. I just don’t like when people talk about it as some perfect heaven.)

Just one of those situations.

Ford's dad was a well-known politician in the 90s, his brother Rob had just passed away (a very odd but well-liked mayor) and Kathleen Wynne's incompetency meant Doug Ford had the perfect chance to win.

I legitimately feel anyone could have stepped in and won against Wynne last June. She had no chance.

As for Ford, his current ratings say it all. Second-worst premier in Canada and got booed at the Raptors parade. Some are saying he's single-handedly ruining Schreer's chances in Ontario.

 

[shaz619]

lmaoo I was born and raised in America, at least we're not living off welfare

Since you specifically took that personally, I question the authencity of your passport

Yeah yeah sure, you breath because of the income support / left overs they throw at you; that or you leach off mummy and daddy

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If you are going to brag about a specific country, at least make sure you are born there #BenefitScroungers #NakliPatriots #Choor #Freshies

Freshies have a different outlook to locals, not that surprising considering their background. I do find threads like this strange, people who have lived the majority of their lives in third world countries disparaging the UK seems a bit precious.

That said, I haven't lived in either the US or Canada, maybe I am missing something. Not the sports, that's for sure. Weather would be an advantage I guess, but America is more equivalent to Europe than the UK. There will be different climates depending on which state you are living in.

 

[Salma_T]

3 pages of Canada V UK.....I am biased born and raised in the UK so only one place for me with all it faults. It is home and will always home. During the WC weekend our local Australian news said doesn't matter how much people think we getting more American all eyes on the British Isles....Cricket WC, Wimbledon, F1 @ Silverstone and Ascot. It may be a small place but it still up there and however great Canada is on the world stage no one really cares (same goes for Australia)

 

[Romali_rotti]

A poster wrote

"Canada is heaven compared to the hell hole which is the UK."




UK has it's problems but surely Canada cannot compare to the UK?

I've never been to Canada because never considered it having anything special apart from some of its natural beauty but there are many places in the world with beauty.

Can anyone list some great things Canada has which the UK doesnt?

Nothing great about Canada bro, I am a Canadian citizen have spent years there, you can never find a decent job, if you do they will pay you terrible wages add to that their taxes is horrific, this is due to the god damn snow they have to clear from the roads... The only good thing about Canada, is the food: Tim Hortons, Chocolates, all fast foods, pizzas, beer oh just about any edible item you put into your mouth is tasty as hell.....

 

[Syed1]

Stop please.

None of the Skyline in Canada rival any of the major city Skyline in US.

Country of 36 Million need to stop competing with country of over 350 Million, California alone has over 39 Million people.

Yeah sure.... this is Houston and the one below is Toronto.

I'll let you be the judge of which skyline is better.


As for California..... well California on its own will qualify as the fifth largest economy in the world behind US, China, Japan and Germany. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/


So not sure how comparing the tech hub of the world with a small prosperous country is an apt comparison.

 

[slipcatch]

Yeah sure.... this is Houston and the one below is Toronto.

I'll let you be the judge of which skyline is better.


As for California..... well California on its own will qualify as the fifth largest economy in the world behind US, China, Japan and Germany. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/


So not sure how comparing the tech hub of the world with a small prosperous country is an apt comparison.

Chalo, aik City, but let’s not compare Toronto with any US cities.

Houston was and is never known for its skyline. Pick a city that is.

Jokes aside, I love visiting GTA, have always enjoyed, it’s just GTA fans, particularly desi are annoying, who are always trying to compare themselves with US when there isn’t any comparison .

 

[slipcatch]

Nothing great about Canada bro, I am a Canadian citizen have spent years there, you can never find a decent job, if you do they will pay you terrible wages add to that their taxes is horrific, this is due to the god damn snow they have to clear from the roads... The only good thing about Canada, is the food: Tim Hortons, Chocolates, all fast foods, pizzas, beer oh just about any edible item you put into your mouth is tasty as hell.....

Only thing that enjoy in GTA and at times have travelled to GTA just for food.

 

[Mamoon]

I find it funny when N. Americans flaunt their skyscrapers. Any country can build skyscrapers if they have the money, but what USA and Canada lack is the historic architecture of European countries build over centuries of civilization.

London >>> NYC for me. You can feel the history and grandeur of London as you walk through the streets, a vibe that is shared by other big European cities but not N. American ones.

Of course USA and Canada beat the UK on many fronts, but flaunting skyscrapers is peculiar.

 

[xbronze]

Yeah sure.... this is Houston and the one below is Toronto.

I'll let you be the judge of which skyline is better.


As for California..... well California on its own will qualify as the fifth largest economy in the world behind US, China, Japan and Germany. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/


So not sure how comparing the tech hub of the world with a small prosperous country is an apt comparison.

Of the two pics above, Toronto looks better. For one it has more greenery. Then it also has the sea.

That aside, neither of these are truly remarkable. Concrete monstrosities tearing up into the sky never excited me. Which is why I abhor the downtown areas of most modern cities, many of which are virtually indistinguishable. Blocks of concrete, snarling traffic, prohibitively expensive downtown parking, if one is lucky to find parking that is (There are full fledged organizations operating in cities exclusively focused on parking/collecting parking fines, with employees/management and the whole nine yards).

Which is why I much prefer Washington DC to say Chicago or Houston. But in Chicago's defense, I must admit that for a massive city they manage to keep it clean, and that it does include many areas and recreational activities that can make you forget that you are within a huge concrete jungle.

A few cities manage to weave nature, greenery, leisure activities so well that the concrete monstrosities tend to obscure into the overall fun/green/nature persona of the city.

Miami is a fine example. Even though Miami is the city with the third highest number of skyscrapers in the US (and that count is growing rapidly - 200 tall condominium building are either under construction, or in the planning stage in Miami). Yet, Miami never feels like a concrete jungle. Even at the center of downtown Miami, you are visibly very close to the ocean, and have in close proximity avenues to get away quickly to a relaxing natural setting, either a marina, sea facing eatery/bar/dance club, boat club, etc, that you can enjoy sitting under the sun, all year round.

In comparison, when walking in the downtown areas of Chicago or in Manhattan, one gets that claustrophobic feeling of being dwarfed by these humungous concrete monstrosities all around you, with no way to escape quickly. Miami never exudes that impression. South beach/Lincoln road is just 15 minutes away from downtown Miami.

Among Canadian cities I much prefer Montreal and Vancouver to Toronto.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I find it funny when N. Americans flaunt their skyscrapers. Any country can build skyscrapers if they have the money, but what USA and Canada lack is the historic architecture of European countries build over centuries of civilization.

London >>> NYC for me. You can feel the history and grandeur of London as you walk through the streets, a vibe that is shared by other big European cities but not N. American ones.

Of course USA and Canada beat the UK on many fronts, but flaunting skyscrapers is peculiar.

I tend to agree. If anything, England partially spoiled a lot of their cities traditional architecture in the '60s by trying to copy the US skyscraper model. The Manhattan skyline is wonderful in it's own place, but parts of London have become a concrete jungle.

 

[slipcatch]

No modern architecture will ever take over the historical architecture and Europe will always remain ahead of in historical architecture.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lmaooo this guy has misplaced priorities, sport isn't even a measure on which countries are judged. Usually it is prosperity, economic opportunity, poverty levels, access to quality health and education etc

lol I didn't come off a boat so dont need any measure anything apart from enjoying life. I can understand immigrants would think of money, free healthcare or education.

As I wrote I am speaking personally not generally or for freshies.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Nothing great about Canada bro, I am a Canadian citizen have spent years there, you can never find a decent job, if you do they will pay you terrible wages add to that their taxes is horrific, this is due to the god damn snow they have to clear from the roads... The only good thing about Canada, is the food: Tim Hortons, Chocolates, all fast foods, pizzas, beer oh just about any edible item you put into your mouth is tasty as hell.....

It seems to be a mixed up society which doesn't have any real culture of it's own but bits borrowed of others UK, US, France.

We might as well bring in the Australia.

How is Australia for you? My friend moved there a few years ago, she lives in Sydney and loves it. She came back but after 6 months couldn't live in the UK anymore. Seeing her photos, the Aussie seem know how to be relaxed and have a good time. I am planning on visiting Aus soon, where would you recommend bro?

 

[Syed1]

lol I didn't come off a boat so dont need any measure anything apart from enjoying life. I can understand immigrants would think of money, free healthcare or education.

As I wrote I am speaking personally not generally or for freshies.

You do Islam islam every where but at the drop of a hat think yourself superior just your parents migrated and with complete luck you were born in the UK. Didn't the Prophet (PBUH) preach that in front of Allah everybody is equal only their amaal matter. Where is your Islam now? Go shave your beard paindu mullah.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You do Islam islam every where but at the drop of a hat think yourself superior just your parents migrated and with complete luck you were born in the UK. Didn't the Prophet (PBUH) preach that in front of Allah everybody is equal only their amaal matter. Where is your Islam now? Go shave your beard paindu mullah.

lol. It was a simple point, not being an immigrant I only need to look at the entertainment/enjoyment. It doesnt matter who i am.

Interesting how immigrants defend thier new homeland more than those who have lived there all their lives.

 

[sweep_shot]

I must admit that it is easier to be a good Muslim in UK than it is in Canada. We don't have a single Islamic bank here and also Muslim population is much lower (both proportion-wise and number-wise).

I hope Canada will have an interest-free bank or Islamic bank soon. Fingers crossed.

 

[Gilly]

California GDP— 2.7 Trillion
Canada GDP— 1.6 Trillion

Population is pretty much same for both of them with a difference of only 3 million

So California has a higher GDP than the United Kingdom.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

You do Islam islam every where but at the drop of a hat think yourself superior just your parents migrated and with complete luck you were born in the UK. Didn't the Prophet (PBUH) preach that in front of Allah everybody is equal only their amaal matter. Where is your Islam now? Go shave your beard paindu mullah.

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Extremely disappointed by this post that Syed just quoted. That is exactly the awful attitude of foreign desis that I was talking about earlier. It’s ironic and shows a lack of understanding, empathy and intelligence and is one of the reasons foreign desis aren’t well respected compared to some other people. Shameful tbh

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Confused foreign desis will keep looking down on and comparing themselves to recent immigrants while still having almost no respect in society and having no real identity of their own. Thank you Allah for allowing me to grow up at home and move abroad for studying just so I could have a broader perspective and experiencing the world while being independent and maintaining my identity.

 

[Pakistanian]

Confused foreign desis will keep looking down on and comparing themselves to recent immigrants while still having almost no respect in society and having no real identity of their own. Thank you Allah for allowing me to grow up at home and move abroad for studying just so I could have a broader perspective and experiencing the world while being independent and maintaining my identity.

We're not as confused as elite Pakistanis that look down on their compatriots that come from a more humble background. What's funny is that whenever I visit Lahore or Karachi, I notice some rich kids speaking English with their parents in a thick Pakistani accent lol - why do they need to speak English and act western when they've lived in Pakistani their whole lives?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

We're not as confused as elite Pakistanis that look down on their compatriots that come from a more humble background. What's funny is that whenever I visit Lahore or Karachi, I notice some rich kids speaking English with their parents in a thick Pakistani accent lol - why do they need to speak English and act western when they've lived in Pakistani their whole lives?

Yeah. Pakistanis who mistreat or even look down on the less fortunate are awful and unfortunately it is a bit too common in Pakistan

I do disagree with your second point though. My friends mostly spoke English amongst ourselves since the middle school days. That’s a strange thing to criticize.

 

[RanveerSingh]

So California has a higher GDP than the United Kingdom.

Yes, for the time being California has a higher GDP than UK even though California’s population is 39 million and UK’s population is around 65 million.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

As a Pakistani I would rather live in Canada than UK, as I would never be able to become British, but anyone can become a Canadian.

However with that said UK is one of the greatest countries in the world. They have so much history, great architecture, literature, education, beautiful villages. So many things to do, in London alone you can spend a month, and still not be able to see everything.

 

[Salma_T]

I doubt the UK gets all fours seasons, that's more of a north american thing since we have so many different climatic regions. The UK is rainy and overcast most times of the year when it's not winter apart from the occasional and shortlive heatwave that y'all get but that's an exception.

I remember some south african cricketer saying the climate in England is 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad weather (Rain) lol.

Yes the UK does get all 4 seasons (and winter doesn't just mean snow) but guess you have to lived in a country to experience the seasons. where I am in Australia in pretty hot, hotter, hot and sticky for 9 months and then we have mild weather with lows hovering around mid teens during the day and i miss the cold.

 

[Robert]

Yes the UK does get all 4 seasons (and winter doesn't just mean snow) but guess you have to lived in a country to experience the seasons. where I am in Australia in pretty hot, hotter, hot and sticky for 9 months and then we have mild weather with lows hovering around mid teens during the day and i miss the cold.

Not any more, with climate change kicking in. We get a warm dryish season and a chilly wet season.

 

[Romali_rotti]

It seems to be a mixed up society which doesn't have any real culture of it's own but bits borrowed of others UK, US, France.

We might as well bring in the Australia.

How is Australia for you? My friend moved there a few years ago, she lives in Sydney and loves it. She came back but after 6 months couldn't live in the UK anymore. Seeing her photos, the Aussie seem know how to be relaxed and have a good time. I am planning on visiting Aus soon, where would you recommend bro?

I grew up in the US, Canada and Australia and I can safely say Australia is the best country to live in, when it comes to job, quality of life etc. The ppl here are great, I have never felt racism or an ill feelings here, could be because of my Americanish accept etc however my opinion is, Aussies are very laid back, you just have to understand their sense of humour and you will be fine.

I would recommend checking the outback bro, NT, QLD, places like Ayers Rock, Alice Springs etc are a must if you are the adventurous type, if you come to Melbourne, make sure you go to the great ocean road, you might also end up being in a bollywood film because whenever I went there, they were shooting a bollywood movie lol.. However the scenery is amazing, you can also hit me up if you are in Melbourne..... Overall you will have a good time here, if you are laid back and chill with minimal attitude...

 

[the Great Khan]

interesting discussion..a while ago i looked up moving to canada..i saw a couple of jobs in vancouver and decided to do my research..

in essence I found that the house prices in the areas with the better schools were more than my current property. (i had at the time a four bedroom property with a massive kitchen two bathrooms, and two reception rooms)..something similar would cost me a bit more..

Also i did a calculation of groceries, internet, travel and other amenities and there were some differences.

overall it came down to family and how they would adjust so i decided not to. Also there was no guarantee they would except my various qualifications and thus the visa situation would prove awkward..i did qualify for their fast track visa however and I have family there who could sponsor me too.

The weather was a big deal for me too...its just soo cold..

also this time i would be the immigrant and would have to start from scratch at building a career...

I looked at the GTA and british colombia as my preffered areas, but also ontario and areas like london and victoria.

some of these places had poor links with the city so commuting would be a bit of a pain..

ironically I got a decent job here in the UK but have to travel to London pretty much three days a week so teh commute thing is a bit ironic..

I felt Canada offered a great lifestyle but the downside was leaving my parents and family and moving the kids when they have settled into a nice routine at school..

 

[topspin]

Lol you obviously haven't been to tampa, orlando or jacksonville then. Even if you did go to miami you only visited for a short period in a certain time of the year otherwise you'd know Miami is known for it's humidity.

I went to Miami last September, so not sure if this is the most humid time of the year in this city, but it was one hell of a place. If you haven't been you're missing out for sure.

 

[xbronze]

I went to Miami last September, so not sure if this is the most humid time of the year in this city, but it was one hell of a place. If you haven't been you're missing out for sure.

In Miami, September is the month with the highest Humidity and March the lowest.

Best US city in my opinion.