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Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

Great Talented Debut yesterday by Kohlii. Too bad it didnt last long against the lowly windies C team. :sachin
 
Are these two guys aware that they are compared sooo much ?
Someone must tell them about it, will get them going :)
 
Statsman said:
Dhoni averages almost 50 playing lower down. Your point is?
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my point is that when players are relatively new, averages should not be used to gage who is better. Players can bat in different positions and circumstances early in their career, it tends to even out in the end so its more fair to compare averages later on. You can not say kholi is better as he averages 43 and umar averages 37
 
Lets see how Kohli does today a chance to prove that he can play test


Best wishses Virat Cohli
 
and the legend Junior got a century in his first innings. Umar got FIVE times more runs than Kohli in his first innings, than Kohlii did in his first match :)) And against arguably a better team, difficult conditions and under a much more pressured situation.

But seriously i expected more from Kohli as i thought he had the potential. He will probably do well in the next tests though. But why is he so arrogant all the time! It must have been embarrassing for his pride to act aggressive against Edwards, then get out to him shortly afterwards. :)) He's also trying to copy :umarakmal 's aggression
 
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asian123 said:
and the legend Junior got a century in his first innings. Umar got FIVE times more runs than Kohli in his first innings, than Kohlii did in his first match :)) And against arguably a better team, difficult conditions and under a much more pressured situation.

But seriously i expected more from Kohli as i thought he had the potential. He will probably do well in the next tests though. But why is he so arrogant all the time! It must have been embarrassing for his pride to act aggressive against Edwards, then get out to him shortly afterwards. :)) He's also trying to copy :umarakmal 's aggression
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+5 You just stole all the words from my mouth :D
 
Kholi ki khol gaye pooli.

Runs banane se zayada nawab saheb zabaan chalatein hain. Let see if he can establish himself in Indian team atall.
 
velu said:
Mods.. please lock this thread :facepalm:
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Why its a pretty good discussion......at first i thought Kohli, at the moment, was better due to his temperament, good stats, experience of games and playing with much better batsman not to mention how he has better coaching, plus he earns a lot more money :butt ..... but if Kohli fails to perform in Tests or overseas, then there can be a good discussion on this topic

Plus no one can look past :umarakmal 's talent.... he just needs proper guidance
 
It was only a joke :yk

I was saying if he fails in tests or overseas, then we can start comparing them...
 
Shockingly poor technique showed there . Virat has to come out of his LOI mode , needs a big knock to keep his place in the team.
 
:))) This is too good!

This will dent his confidence a lot. This is a good test of his attitude. Im not sure if he has a fighting attitude to work hard and prove everyone wrong in the next few tests. He thought that he was one of the best batsman in the world after his performances in flat tracks and in the IPL :facepalm: but these next few series will test him. He's already failing against West Indies. Im not sure what will happen to him in England and Australia....

In any case, he deserves this :yk
 
He got a very good delivery from Rampaul today ... I still beleive he has great talent and it is matter of one innings before he starts doing well in test cricket
 
Well...I never expected him to start as well in tests as he did in odis but he really has started atrociously. India have better test players than him, from what we've seen so far.
 
Many people who were saying he has the temperament. Test cricket ache acho ki hawa nikal deta hai. Kohli however good player, needs to have temperament to play test cricket. He may go on and become a successful cricketer in ODI's but not in tests.

I'm not jumping the gun here, he's played 2 tests I know. But I'm sure he is not test material, even Umar Akmal. Unless they both sort out their temperamental issues.
 
Umar Akmal easily wins this contest infact there is no contest at all , I was expecting Kohli to just bash the Windies bowling and score runs like a machine but result is in front of us. Chota Akmal indeed is a superior talent.
 
kohli averages a whopping 9.5 in test cricket, Sir Don would b tossing and turning in his grave
 
the way chotta akmal smashed bond all around the park in his first test and smashed the likes of siddle ,, i always knew he was a superior talent. kohli is still a good player imo but chotta will b more successful in all three forms of the game
 
I think Home matches do have a difference on player performances.

India should pray that when they tour england they encounter good weather because if the weather is like when it was in 2010 summer than they will most likely to worse than Pakistan looking at current performance and their bowling attack. Don't think ZAK will be enough.

But they still have Dhoni who can ball a bit :D
 
this comparison is looking like an insult to Umar Akmal. Kohli needs to up his game a lot to get this thread moving.
 
if I he gets a 100 next inning I will put his pic as my avatar and keep "Gay for Virat Kohli" as my signature for one month.
 
AZ said:
if I he gets a 100 next inning I will put his pic as my avatar and keep "Gay for Virat Kohli" as my signature for one month.
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AZ... Virat is out of England tour as well..So for now, there is no threat to your challenge...:)
 
virat will improve . Todays innings was long in terms of time spent on crease and balls faced but yeah umar akmal is a better test batsman.
 
damn i wished that Virat went to England.....and got banged by Anderson and Swann :))

Anyway this must be painful for him.....failing against the West Indies in his first test, and not being picked for the England series :)))
 
asian123 said:
damn i wished that Virat went to England.....and got banged by Anderson and Swann :))

Anyway this must be painful for him.....failing against the West Indies in his first test, and not being picked for the England series :)))
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LOL Quote of the year :yk
 
Gotta give it to you guys for some time now, Kohli has let me down big time on this tour. Deserves no defending until he gets back to his run scoring business.

Test cricket -
Umar >>> Kohli :facepalm:
ODI-
Equals :/

Overall for now-
UA >> Kohli


Raina on the other hand has impressed me in this test series, so thumbs to him :19: Good come back after the disasterous ODI series. Shown a lot of character. That's what it's all about.
 
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Fireworks11 said:
Naivety.
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asian123 said:
damn i wished that Virat went to England.....and got banged by Anderson and Swann :))

Anyway this must be painful for him.....failing against the West Indies in his first test, and not being picked for the England series :)))
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If that happen then there will be galum galooch on the pitch as Kholi is best at bad mouthing his opponent.

Kholi may not be as talented as Umar but he is still a very good OD batter, unfortunately for him he's spending more time with sarak chap like Bhajji than spending time with someone like Tendulkar.
 
asian123 said:
damn i wished that Virat went to England.....and got banged by Anderson and Swann :))

Anyway this must be painful for him.....failing against the West Indies in his first test, and not being picked for the England series :)))
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lol reminds me of Munaf Patel :nehra
Obviously everyone expected a lot better from Virat Kohli on his Test debut but... well.
Just hope he makes a strong comeback.
 
Virat's biggest asset is his determination. Mark my words he will be back in the test squad one of these days as a better player.
 
gsivak said:
Virat's biggest asset is his determination. Mark my words he will be back in the test squad one of these days as a better player.
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No doubt that he can't be as bad as he was in the first 2 tests.
But the problem is that Virat is not as good as Umar Akmal is. Umar Akmal is a very very good batsman.
 
Mobashir said:
No doubt that he can't be as bad as he was in the first 2 tests.
But the problem is that Virat is not as good as Umar Akmal is. Umar Akmal is a very very good batsman.
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we can only compare virat's and UA's antics but not as a batsmen.
virat is an accumulator and i rarely seen him playing big shots :umarakmal

we can compare UA with Raina, both love to slog and get out irresponsibly
 
I think virat is finding it difficult in transition between odi and test cricket.

For the time being, in test

ua>virat. Won't deny that.
 
Good testing times for Virat. He's shown in the past he's capable of overcoming shortfallings. Let's see how he handles this. I'm pretty sure he'll be played in the 3rd test, he has 2 more opportunities to show, he's not out of his depth
 
Both are class players to watch. Both will be inconsistent. Both will have highs and lows. Lets all move on.
 
Itachi said:
I think virat is finding it difficult in transition between odi and test cricket.

For the time being, in test

ua>virat. Won't deny that.
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I dont think he would have found it difficult had it been played in India. I dont think he will ever find it hard there....
 
Crazy_K said:
Good testing times for Virat. He's shown in the past he's capable of overcoming shortfallings. Let's see how he handles this. I'm pretty sure he'll be played in the 3rd test, he has 2 more opportunities to show, he's not out of his depth
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Absolutely agree with you, being dropped form the team after Umar Akmal played a horrible shot was the best rthing that could have happened. Everyone said that he would never make it back as a test player but his determination got him back and since then he has been very solid.

IMO the transition between test and Odi is hampering Virat, he is a bit like Azhar Ali, players like these 2 should be allowed to play atleast 2-3 years of test cricket to develop, before being brought into the ODI arena. prime example is Younis Khan he shouldn't have played Odi cricket so early in his carrier.
 
if hes finding it hard to play The west indian bowling attack , if he was to come in england to face anderson and co he sure would have struggled on these pitches
 
Mobashir said:
No doubt that he can't be as bad as he was in the first 2 tests.
But the problem is that Virat is not as good as Umar Akmal is. Umar Akmal is a very very good batsman.
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Based on the current evidence..yeah UA is a better bat in tests.
 
PCB innitially thought that they would protect Umar by keeping him so back in the order, but it sort of back fired because Umar has had to do the majority of the hard work due to the constant break downs in the pakistani batting line up. But Umar will look back at his career and take this as a learning process, so young yet exposed to the deep end of International cricket.

However, Kohli does bat ahead of him, but has had most of the hard work already done for him. He has to bat around Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gambhir and Yuvraj+Dhoni after him. Im sure Umar would equally flourish if these lot were around him. Kohli will be tested very soon. There wont be those gaurenteed 100 runs of Tendulkar, and those away games are not gonna be on flat pancakes.
 
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