Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

[shaaik]

Man, can someone show this thread to Umar Akmal and wake him up.

He can still turn around his career if he's determined to. Has the ability, needs to find a mentor and start working very hard on getting fitter and work with a sports psychologist on his temperament. ALl the hard worl could still see him play till 2025 if not more..

Biggest question is, does he want to?

The ship has already sailed for him. He is only regressed with time and doesn't seem to be improving one bit. He is one of so many of our players who promised a world when they started off and went down hill as they played on. I don't know what's it down to but we have a history of producing players who take the world by storm in the early parts of their career and fade away in a year or two. Umar Akmal unfortunately is cut from the same cloth. I hv absolutely no hope from him but I wish he could turn it around somehow.

 

[Pakhs]

This thread should be deleted ASAP. Its an insult to Pak Passion forum. The members here are more knowledgeable than this thread shows. You may aswell compare me to Umar Akmal as well.

 

[MP2011]

Can't manage stupidity. If he were to be managed by any professional setup they would part ways with him very quickly.

This!

We've had our share of stupids in Indian cricket, Kambli, LSRK etc would be the first names!

 

[Sin Nombre]

Kambli "retired" with an average above 54 in tests. Him being dropped permanently from the test squad when he was is an indictment of Indian cricket in the 90s.

 

[GenericBrand]

Lol reading the first page is kind of hilarious

 

[BreadPakoda]

Dr. [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] sahab has been a very strong advocate of Umar Akmal's inclusion in the Pakistan team for the longer format. Wonder if he has changed his views now.

 

[par]

Anybody still around who posted in the beginning of the thread? It will be interesting to see when exactly you changed your opinion.

 

[MP2011]

Anybody still around who posted in the beginning of the thread? It will be interesting to see when exactly you changed your opinion.

I think Kohli's first test ton (Adelaide - '12) was a watershed moment in his cricketing career.

 

[King_Kohli]

first time reading posts in this thread
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Umar Akmal started career with positive and promising , fans had high expectations on him.

what went wrong with him on his rapid fall?
is there any chance to comeback?

 

[Danyaalr01]

I thought this thread was locked already.

Mods,

Please lock this thread & throw the keys away. This comparison is done & dusted. Keeping it alive will only break heart of Umar fans.

There's still hope from Umar. He will make a comeback like no other and blow the world away with his amazing ability to smash the best pace bowlers in the world for 6 every ball at the Perth stadium.

Well at least that's what some people still think.

 

[Boiz Played Well]

There's still hope from Umar. He will make a comeback like no other and blow the world away with his amazing ability to smash the best pace bowlers in the world for 6 every ball at the Perth stadium.

Well at least that's what some people still think.

I don’t think the comparisons are wrong. Kohli performs as consistently as Umar doesn’t. The rate is the same.

 

[Rana]

It may take another decade now to ever start a thread comparing a young Pakistani batsmen to an Indian one.

Babar is the last Hope who can inspire a generation sadly

 

[Abdul]

Good time to bump this, methinks.

 

[Saj]

Kohli has not managed to do even a fraction of the things Umar Akmal has managed to do

 

[BreadPakoda]

Kohli is a do takkey ka player

Umar Akmal is ten trillion times better than him.

Whenever you feel down/demotivated, read this post. Even the best of the best get abused. It was a hurting post back when I read it in 2010.

 

[JaDed]

One of those feel good threads for Indian fans.. thanks to Kohli..

 

[Saj]

Virat Kohli......exposing opposition bowling attacks.

Umar Akmal.......exposing himself.

 

[ravisurya]

Kohli is a do takkey ka player

Umar Akmal is ten trillion times better than him, it's doesnt seem that way because he can't get a stats boost on paratha wickets like Kohli babu

Haha awesome, sorry but had to bring this one up.Absolute gold.

 

[waleed88]

This thread should be deleted ASAP. Its an insult to Pak Passion forum. The members here are more knowledgeable than this thread shows. You may aswell compare me to Umar Akmal as well.

I think it should be kept because it is a very important reminder to us how we overrate our very own. Now Umar's ship has sailed we have a new kid on the block Babar azam and again we are hell bent on comparing him to Kohli. This will do no benefits to him in the future, even though he has already shown he is better than U.A in terms of temperament and application. But still not at Kohli's level.

 

[Mueez]

UA - the gift that keeps on giving...

It is unbelievable to see people still support this clown.

 

[chazam]

Omg this thread exists... this forum can be a funny place as well..someone should really show this thread to Umar

 

[rudra]

This thread is still alive

 

[shah_1]

Umar is better at present, but in 10 years time Virat`d have achieved more.....

Great prediction sir

 

[AMSS]

The first page of this thread never fails to make me smile.

Among Pakistani posters, this post probably is *the* most fair aside from the Sachin reference which can be overlooked. Umar did turn many into believers back in those days.

Kohli looks class.India really should nuture that kid,looks special.Great stats too.

http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/253802.html

Averages 43 in ODIs and 47 in List A.

Average of 55 in FC Cricket.

Would welcome him into Pak team any day !

Kohli is a year older than Umar and made his ODI debut a year earlier and Akmal Jr has played a lot of matches away from home in alien conditions such as Australia,New Zealand,South Africa,Sri Lanka and now England.

Even Sachin would have struggled with having to adjust to different pitches,different bowlers right at the start of your career !

Playing vs Aus and Eng at the age of 20 is incredibly tough.We have to remember he's still a young guy.

Its not Umar Akmal that we tend to dislike,its just the way he gets out that seems to make everyone so judgmental.

Give the two time and they will be top,quality players.

 

[Minnowbasher]

Honestly kohli isnt anywhere near Umar Akmal. Umar akmal is Bradman level.

 

[andy0204]

Umar Akmal I can't describe about him,
He is way better than Kohli if we look at the below side.

 

[in_cutter]

Both are talented, no doubt about that.

Kohli is a future captain material, but like Praveen Kumar, he seems angry all the time.

At the end of their careers:

Tests: Kohli = Umar
ODIs: Umar >/_ Kohli (Umar better or equal)
T20s: Umar >> Kohli (no doubt)

So I would pick Umar Akmal.

Oh boy what a prediction

 

[Nov15]

Kohli is a do takkey ka player

Umar Akmal is ten trillion times better than him, it's doesnt seem that way because he can't get a stats boost on paratha wickets like Kohli babu

This didn’t age well

 

[Minnowbasher]

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[Babu Bhaiya]

Whoever bumps this thread needs to be penalized

I have been lurking on this site for a good 8-9 years and its not funny anymore.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Common Guys, Kohli getting Media Exposure since the 1st IPL. He already played 3 IPL, Still never seen him performing like a World class player. Yes He is in and Out from Indian team because, too many batting options, But I never saw he took his chances and performed awesomely well. One of the Problem he has is, He scores good 20-30 then throws his wicket.

I would say Ambati Raiudu The HydaraBady Boy is better talent than any of Kohli, Rohit, Jadeja.

But he is not even getting any International launching as Ambati does not have a Lobby like Our Farhat or Kohli.

Now about Akmal.. You guys saying Akmal could establish himself in Pak team because of a weak Batting Lineup??? HA HA HA..

Akmal until now never played in his Home Soil, He alongside Amir will be two guys who will have to wait longest period time to get debut on their Home soil after already having debut in International Cricket.

Akmal is Good Lerner, But he is going through Bad Patch which every Player goes through in their Career. So, Its not a big deal and not a point to ignore his Talent.

He has Wide range of Strokes than Virat has, And over all better batsman against Fast Bowlers than Virat for sure as he scored heavily against Aussies in T20's and scored quite freely..

So, Please My Indian Friends, Try to judge through Talent that already shown by these two players, Don't favor them because one of them is from your country. After all our arguments will not effect their career for sure.

Just Hopping for the best of Luck for both the Players..

Ambati better than Rohit and Kohli

 

[MP2011]

Ambati better than Rohit and Kohli

In making biryani...

 

[leg-side-flick]

And a poor excuse at that too. This Indian line-up has been there for almost a decade now. So how many batsmen did it "groom" during this time frame. There were/are plenty of batsmen with talent.

Yuvraj
Raina
Rohit
Uthapa

And plenty more. All of them are not right offs and might come back still. However it takes a level head to listen to the advice around you and implement it. So props where its due Virat is making the best use of opportunity that is being provided. To stake a claim in the Indian middle order is almost as hard as it was to stake a claim in the pakistan pace department in the 90's. So to be part of that list at the age he is at is indeed great.
As for Umar. He has the same syndrome that Imran Nazir had when he started. He worry too much about looking good/busy. I dont think Imran Nazir was any less talented but he too had that disease he wanted to look like he was dominating all the time. He didnt want to spend time on the crease to get his eye in because that looks like you are struggling. Umar has the game the issue is in the mind and no one can help him with that no matter how experienced. He has to resolve it on his own. There is plenty of advise around but he has to accept the fact that he needs it.

Brilliant

 

[leg-side-flick]

In making biryani...

3D Biryani hogi woh

 

[andy0204]

3D Biryani hogi woh

3D nahi Kauwa Biryani hogi.

 

[Shafi]

Time to close the thread!!!!
Basically Umar Akmal played so many matches due to his connection. He wouldn't even make entry to any A team of teams like Aus, Ind, Eng, SA.

 

[chazam]

Bump. What a fun post.
Is he still more talented than Virat ?

 

[ataullah]

Current Akmal way better than kohli

 

[Rana]

Current Akmal way better than kohli ��

Well that was some serious ball striking!

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Definitely better than Kohli as of now.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

A fit Kohli could never play an innings like that, never mind a fat one that was banned for a couple of years.

 

[cricketerB94]

Put Kohli against Hasan and Wasim with wet ball, then we'll see.

 

[Zaz]

A fit Kohli could never play an innings like that, never mind a fat one that was banned for a couple of years.

What a pearl Keep em coming! Ive never laughed so hard

 

[Major]

Who's better right now and who's gonna achieve more in 10 years time?

damn, this thread was made in 2010, and in 12 years time, one player became the captain and achieved ICC awards and huge milestones.

The other makes tiktok videos, has grown fat, has been involved in different controversies, has fought with punjab police, stood naked infront of the coach, got bashed by Mickey Arthur and Brandan Mcculum, claimed water made him fat, asked Imran Khan to tell Afiridi to make him bat higher in the order (to which Imran said tumay upper khelna chayiy ) ), and finally he even manage to get himself banned for not reporting a spot fix and fell under the suspicion.

While Kohli got to captain team India, Umar Akmal is not even trusted with domestic captaincy and was given a match in domestic game after 5 games on the bench.

 

[dravidthewall]

Never thought this thread will bump again.But present scenario Umar Akmal striking the ball well with 300 strike rate.I think he got his form back. In other end Kohli consistently decreased scores 18,13 and ducks against third grade west indies bowler. Right know umar Akmal is better than kohli

 

[Walawalkar]

Never thought this thread will bump again.But present scenario Umar Akmal striking the ball well with 300 strike rate.I think he got his form back. In other end Kohli consistently decreased scores 18,13 and ducks against third grade west indies bowler. Right know umar Akmal is better than kohli

Umar Akmal always better than Kohli...It is just matter of time and finally everyone seeing the real pic..

 

[Smbhayi]

Thanks for the bump.. now Kohli will turn to monster once again..

 

[nish_mate]

Bump to rekindle some old memories

 

[mominsaigol]

Bump to rekindle some old memories

I read the early comments. And their hilarious.

But I didn't exist here In 2010 so I can't help.

 

[nish_mate]

I read the early comments. And their hilarious.

But I didn't exist here In 2010 so I can't help.

Hence my comment everytime a comparison is made between budding Indian batter against a budding Pakistani batter, it is good omen for the Indian players career.

Pure banter mate, I am not one of your serious nerdy folks to discuss a chaps career to Nth detail.

 

[Devadwal]

No point of bumping this thread .

 

[nish_mate]

No point of bumping this thread .

Needs to be read in conjunction with Ayub vs Jaiswal.

 

[mominsaigol]

No point of bumping this thread .

Why didn't you make a steve smith vs kohli test career thread

 

[Devadwal]

Why didn't you make a steve smith vs kohli test career thread

Virat is won't comparable to cheaters

 

[Minnowbasher]

Comparisons like these ruined his career.
If you actually look at his record Umar Akmal wasn't a terrible batsmen. Inconsistent for sure, but won us matches in big games. Way better than the current white ball middle order.
More importantly look at his strike rate - he didn't waste balls unlike our current selfish lot. He would easily make our t20 team but sadly his name has been tarnished so badly and he just stopped working hard.
If he kept at it he would still have a chance - how many cricketers make comebacks in their 30s.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Umar Akmal will go through ups and downs in his career, but he is destined for greatness. Despite the lows his performance has hit recently, I still rate him and Amir to be the best things to come out of Pak cricket lately and both will go on to make a great name for themselves in world cricket.

Man, this thread is something.
Will be a fun read

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Both are talented, no doubt about that.

Kohli is a future captain material, but like Praveen Kumar, he seems angry all the time.

At the end of their careers:

Tests: Kohli = Umar
ODIs: Umar >/_ Kohli (Umar better or equal)
T20s: Umar >> Kohli (no doubt)

So I would pick Umar Akmal.

Akmal really disappointed tons of people!

 

[JattMaula]

Man, this thread is something.
Will be a fun read

It's required educational material for new PP users.

It's the textbook of PP.

 

[Mamoon]

This comparison lost all relevance by 2014, but funnily enough, had Umar played Test cricket in the last 4 years, he wouldn’t have done any worse than Kohli.

Kohli since Jan 2020:

Matches: 31
Average: 33

What a clown

 

[Buffet]

Why didn't you make a steve smith vs kohli test career thread

Smith is in different league in the test format. The top 3 test batsman in the last 30 years. Smith is in league of SRT and Lara.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Smith is in different league in the test format. The top 3 test batsman in the last 30 years. Smith is in league of SRT and Lara.

I have an eerie feeling about some of the posts on this thread.
Kohli's form declined with this thread going silent. Maybe it will revive his form

 

[Buffet]

I have an eerie feeling about some of the posts on this thread.
Kohli's form declined with this thread going silent. Maybe it will revive his form

Well, he can surely score runs in Aus. He normally likes Aus pitches, but he has been in decline and not sure if he can score those daddy tons he used to score in Aus.

 

[RyanRyan10]

This comparison lost all relevance by 2014, but funnily enough, had Umar played Test cricket in the last 4 years, he wouldn’t have done any worse than Kohli.

Kohli since Jan 2020:

Matches: 31
Average: 33

What a clown

Had Umar Akmal played this year's T20 WC, he wouldn't have done worse than Kohli.

We proved Umar better in 2 out of 3 formats. Kohli fanboys can start whining now.

 

[Josh]

A Thread from my golden lurking days in this forum.

 

[giri26]

To be frank Umar Akmal for all his indiscipline and temperament issues was way better than all of Pakistan's white ball batters now. He had the range which none of the current batters do not.

 

[jnaveen1980]

13 year old thread.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

This horse died and someone dug him up from the grave to flog the horse again.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

This horse died and someone dug him up from the grave to flog the horse again.

Its a history lesson for some of us Sir!
and the superstitious me, also sees the decline in Kohli's form and fading away of this thread. Want to test out this conjecture too

 

[uppercut]

Some of the posts on this thread are just pure gold ...

 

[Bhaijaan]

This thread single handedly changed the fortunes of Bharatiya cricket. On behalf of everyone in Bharat, thank you from the bottom of our hearts for this treasure.

The first few pages of this thread are 24 carat gold.

 

[Hitman]

A lot os us posters had a lot of fun in this thread over the years.

 

[Vikram1989]

This thread single handedly changed the fortunes of Bharatiya cricket. On behalf of everyone in Bharat, thank you from the bottom of our hearts for this treasure.

The first few pages of this thread are 24 carat gold.

Let's hope jaiswal vs saim thread will continue the show

 

[Bhaijaan]

A lot os us posters had a lot of fun in this thread over the years.

This is by far the greatest, most controversial, most fun, most dramatic thread ever on this website.

I hope it is never deleted, merged, or anything.

This is legacy

 

[Hitman]

This is by far the greatest, most controversial, most fun, most dramatic thread ever on this website.

I hope it is never deleted, merged, or anything.

This is legacy

The most fun was the one asking whether anyone will break Saeed Anwar's score of 194 in ODI cricket. It was closed after Sachin broke it.

 

[RyanRyan10]

In terms of Takent and natural flair, Umar Akmal

 

[Hitman]

This is by far the greatest, most controversial, most fun, most dramatic thread ever on this website.

I hope it is never deleted, merged, or anything.

This is legacy

He is lucky he comes from a nation bankrupt of batting talent. In any other nation, he would not have played any international cricket.

 

[TM Riddle]

Umar has a better sense of humour. Always love watching him voice his insights. So Umar for me.

 

[Hitman]

Umar has a better sense of humour. Always love watching him voice his insights. So Umar for me.

'Drinking even water makes me gain weight'.

 

[Hellion]

A fit Umar Akmal with a properly functioning brain would've been a superior batter to Kohli in all formats. Was more gifted.

 

[Hitman]

A fit Umar Akmal with a properly functioning brain would've been a superior batter to Kohli in all formats. Was more gifted.

Pakistani players are always more 'talented' than Indian players. It's due to various factors beyond their control that makes them underperform.