Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

[QuarterBack]

No, I gave him credit for his 2 innings in SA - read my post. SA bowling is toothless. Only Malinga and Murlidaran are good in the whole attack.

Ok, thats 20 overs out of 50...

Fact is that due to huge number of games in the sub-continent pitches against the likes of Bangladesh and SriLanka, his average looks good

Completely wrong... He has played 12 games outside the subcontinent and has an average of 50.66
His career average is 48.10... And before you think that was against minnows, he played 2 of those games against Zim and scored 18 at a grand average of 9... So no his figures are not inflated...

He actually has played better outside the subcontinent...

 

[alexjohn_tcr]

No, I gave him credit for his 2 innings in SA - read my post. SA bowling is toothless. Only Malinga and Murlidaran are good in the whole attack.

Fact is that due to huge number of games in the sub-continent pitches against the likes of Bangladesh and SriLanka, his average looks good

Dude,your argument that Umar Akmal can hit Tait and Nannes for sixes is pretty weak.harbhajan has hit,Ahthar,Aamir,Brett Lee,Morkel,Johnson etc.. What thou say? Robin Uthappa has hit Lee and Lee and Johnson and Malinga for sixes.he is not even in the team.Rohit Sharma has hit a handful of pacers including Lee and Johnson.

the point is whether he is able to do it consistently and play matchwinning knocks switching gears according to the demands of the team

 

[Vegitto1]

I think this WC will show who is ahead. As things stand, both scored against minnows and both failed against good opposition. Although they both came at the fag end of the innings.

So the Score after 1 game is

Name                 Pld            Points

Umar Akmal            1               0                 

Virat Kholi           1               0

D. Bravo              1               3

Rules
1. Games against minnows, including Bangladesh do not count.

2. 50+ score = 2 points

3. 100+ score = 3 points

4. Strike rate of 80+ = 1 points (only if score more than 25 runs)

5. Strike rate of 100+ = 2 points (only if score more than 25 runs)

6. Match winning contribution = 4 points (only if you get Man of the Match)

 

[QuarterBack]

^^^ Lol at your supp calculations... Right now, Kohli is ahead of Umar, whether you like it or not... And yes, time will tell who can sustain their success better...

 

[Vegitto1]

^^^ Lol at your supp calculations... Right now, Kohli is ahead of Umar, whether you like it or not... And yes, time will tell who can sustain their success better...

You are entitled to your biased opinion, and I am entitled to mine (biased opinion).:umarakmal

 

[QuarterBack]

You are entitled to your biased opinion, and I am entitled to mine (biased opinion).:umarakmal

Agreed, except only one of those "opinions" is steeped in facts... Like when i pointed out the fallacy in you stating that Kohli's average is good because of subcontinent pitches...

But true, ppl are entitled to their opinions...

 

[Striver]

Kohli has failed once again at a position where Umar usually slogs for 30 odd runs... im starting to doubt my initial support for Kohli being the better bat

 

[Awesome_Username]

I was waiting for this thread to be bumped.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Kholi who ?????

 

[Striver]

I was waiting for this thread to be bumped.

your wish has been granted lol

 

[duostyle]

Kohli can't hit a six.. ha! ha!

 

[Afridi_Fan]

It isn't easy to set a target. Now I guess most of Jr's haters will know that.

 

[talha3]

Basically, this is a really bad comparison. Kohli is a better innings builder who struggles when needed to come in and hit big. Umar is better at coming in and hitting big. So 2 very different roles.

It's like comparing Saeed Anwar and Dravid.

 

[Theo_14]

Akmal fails yet again

this guy just can't play for a string of 6 balls with his head over his shoulders...

This is the 2nd time I'm quoting you (and I'm yet to recieve a respond for the first one but here we go again).

Kohli came out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

And guess what?

For the 2nd time Kohli came out at a position/situation same as Umar Akmal and yet again Kohli FAILED.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly.

 

[Awesome_Username]

your wish has been granted lol

Lol I meant I was waiting for it to be bumped after Kohli got out. Wasn't a long wait though. :umarakmal

 

[percyman]

A week ago , I would have proudly claimed that Kohli is miles ahead of Umar but now I'm afraid he is not , both are on the same level and atleast in this world cup Akmal is a notch better

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Kohli is less talented but has a much better brain, opposite for umar akmal, but recently his improved, his record is almost identical to what ponting had at this stage , an average of about 35

 

[ethan hunt]

cant hit the ball to save his life .......... umar all the way ............ if only we bat akmal higher up the order

 

[MRSN]

failed again against quality side.

This is the 2nd time I'm quoting you (and I'm yet to recieve a respond for the first one but here we go again).

Kohli came out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

And guess what?

For the 2nd time Kohli came out at a position/situation same as Umar Akmal and yet again Kohli FAILED.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly.

good post bro,completely agree with you .

 

[praveen]

This is the 2nd time I'm quoting you (and I'm yet to recieve a respond for the first one but here we go again).

Kohli came out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

And guess what?

For the 2nd time Kohli came out at a position/situation same as Umar Akmal and yet again Kohli FAILED.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly.

See, the reverse is true too. Can U Akmal play as well as kohli has, if he bats at the top of the order?
Anyways the point is, U Akmal should be compared with Raina not Kohli.

 

[x2zee123]

This is the 2nd time I'm quoting you (and I'm yet to recieve a respond for the first one but here we go again).

Kohli came out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

And guess what?

For the 2nd time Kohli came out at a position/situation same as Umar Akmal and yet again Kohli FAILED.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly.

good analiezation

 

[Theo_14]

Can U Akmal play as well as kohli has if he bats at the top of the order?

I would love to answer your question but the thing is I can't because I cannot judge Umar Akmal as a batsmen when it comes to him playing at #3 as he hasn't played there before, so It's difficult to judge him.

BUT If you ask me who's better when it comes to coming out on the pitch at a position where 4/5/6 wickets are down, approx 11 overs left and with the last batting powerplay going on then I can firmly say Umar Akmal is better and more lethal, and I'm only doing this comparison because for some reason Kohli has been dropped down the order and has been playing the same role that poor Umar Akmal has to do despite it not matching his natural game.

Also interesting to point out that Umar Akmal has a better average then Virat Kohli in the World cup so far.

Anyways the point is, U Akmal should be compared with Raina not Kohli.

I agree, it makes more sense but some PP'ers (mainly fans of India) didn't bother listening and kept bumping whenever Kohli had a good game and Umar Akmal had a poor game.

Also the Umar Akmal v Virat Kohli comparison makes more sense now as both are batting at a position where they similiar roles, and that's a fact.

 

[Sir_Afridi]

Kohli is not fit to tie Umar show laces. Kohli can never even dream of playing such pressure cooker innings .

 

[Decipher]

Credit must be given where due.
He played a very good knock today. Well played Umar !!

 

[kashmiri_lad]

Umar is catching up pretty fast...
Another 2 years we will know, who stands where..

 

[MRSN]

Again he proves that he is a match winner not just a minnow basher.Showed a great character today.This is why I rate Umar so highly because he plays really well against top sides under pressure.

 

[zarak]

only splendid untill he gets hammered

 

[srg]

Kohli is not fit to tie Umar show laces. Kohli can never even dream of playing such pressure cooker innings .

Kohli already played in pressure situations before. Check out his innings while chasing. And yeah, Umar is HIGHLY TALUUUUNTED BATSMAN with 10 points less average than Kohli. Also Asad Shafique is a better batsman than Sehwag because he played a superb innings today.

IMO, it's too early to judge both the players.

 

[Arcturus]

Umar plays one match-winning innings and there is a torrent of posts praising him sky-high, deeming Kohli as an also-ran.

Next time Kohli plays a good innings it would be the other way around. Kohli will be the one with midas-touch and posters will mock his comparison with Umar.

Is there any logic to comparing them on an innings-to-innings basis? Give them a break willya

 

[Afridi_Fan]

You guys are still going at it?

) )

Good, keep on going.

 

[kaalakawaa]

Need we discuss this issue further?

 

[Theo_14]

Kohli already played in pressure situations before. Check out his innings while chasing. And yeah, Umar is HIGHLY TALUUUUNTED BATSMAN with 10 points less average than Kohli. Also Asad Shafique is a better batsman than Sehwag because he played a superb innings today.

IMO, it's too early to judge both the players.

Let's judge Umar Akmal and Virat Kohli's performances during the World cup and also take a note that in the 'recent games' Kohli has played in a similiar role with the bat that Umar Akmal has been doing for the past year or so, and this makes the comparison more realistic considering both of them are playing at a similiar situation and similiar role.

It'll be ideal to judge them after 2-3 years but judging by the performances during the World cup it's more then clear that Umar Akmal has been the better player, and that's the bottom line.

Is there any logic to comparing them on an innings-to-innings basis? Give them a break willya

If you asked me the question a few months ago then I would say 'no as it's pointless comparing 2 batsman who play in different roles and come out to bat at a different situation' but since your asking us the question now...

I'd say yes - Why? Because...

In recent games, Kohli has come out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly and that's a fact.

 

[srg]

Let's judge Umar Akmal and Virat Kohli's performances during the World cup and also take a note that in the 'recent games' Kohli has played in a similiar role with the bat that Umar Akmal has been doing for the past year or so, and this makes the comparison more realistic considering both of them are playing at a similiar situation and similiar role.

It'll be ideal to judge them after 2-3 years but judging by the performances during the World cup it's more then clear that Umar Akmal has been the better player, and that's the bottom line.




If you asked me the question a few months ago then I would say 'no as it's pointless comparing 2 batsman who play in different roles and come out to bat at a different situation' but since your asking us the question now...

I'd say yes - Why? Because...

In recent games, Kohli has come out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly and that's a fact.

I like the ideal way

 

[Theo_14]

I like the ideal way

I love how you missed out my other points, just shows you have no valid sentences to respond to my post which is a shame indeed.

But the bottom line is....

That Umar Akmal is better then Kohli when it comes to batting at a position where you are forced to slog, focus on the team's total then your own individual score and with 8-7 overs left and in general it is also clear that Umar Akmal is having a better World cup then Kohi.

 

[percyman]

True . The one great thing about Umar is that he can not only play a mature Innings but also slog at any point of time whereas Virat has been found very unimpressive in situations where the onus was on to hit big shots , failed twice in Powerplay overs against Quality sides

 

[srg]

I love how you missed out my other points, just shows you have no valid sentences to respond to my post which is a shame indeed.

But the bottom line is....

That Umar Akmal is better then Kohli when it comes to batting at a position where you are forced to slog, focus on the team's total then your own individual score and with 8-7 overs left and in general it is also clear that Umar Akmal is having a better World cup then Kohi.

If I undertood your point correctly, lance klusener is better than Jack Kallis because Kluenser was star in WC99. Am I right?

Kohli and Umar are both different kind of players just like Kallis and Klusener were. Their roles are different.

 

[MRSN]

Let's judge Umar Akmal and Virat Kohli's performances during the World cup and also take a note that in the 'recent games' Kohli has played in a similiar role with the bat that Umar Akmal has been doing for the past year or so, and this makes the comparison more realistic considering both of them are playing at a similiar situation and similiar role.

It'll be ideal to judge them after 2-3 years but judging by the performances during the World cup it's more then clear that Umar Akmal has been the better player, and that's the bottom line.




If you asked me the question a few months ago then I would say 'no as it's pointless comparing 2 batsman who play in different roles and come out to bat at a different situation' but since your asking us the question now...

I'd say yes - Why? Because...

In recent games, Kohli has come out at a position where he had to focus more on the team's total score then his own individual score - he came out at a position where the batting powerplay had been taken, this is the role what poor Umar Akmal has to do for Pakistan.

Before it was a joke judging Kohli and Umar Akmal as they both had different roles to play but in the past 2-3 matches Kohli has come out at a similiar position as U. Akmal and it's easier to judge/compare then now and it's clear Kohli has failed so far in the role that Umar Akmal has to play in constantly and that's a fact.

again good analysis bro,well done Umar has played some really crucial knocks for Pakistan but many people wont give him credit because his average is not in the 40ss

 

[Theo_14]

If I undertood your point correctly, lance klusener is better than Jack Kallis because Kluenser was star in WC99. Am I right?

I'm glad you used that word because you did NOT understand my point correctly as I'm discussing about Kohli v Umar Akmal here... Not the World cup 1999 my fellow PP'er.

Let me make it clear and simple for you...

1)Umar Akmal has scored more runs then Kohi in the World cup despite playing few overs then Kohli.

2) Umar Akmal has a higher and better average then Kohli in thw World cup

3) Umar Akmal has been more lethal when they BOTH have played at a similiar position, role or situation.

4) Umar Akmal has taken MORE catches then Kohli has during the World cup

5) Umar Akmal has a higher strike rate then Kohli in the World cup

These 5 are all FACTS which comes to my final and hopefully last conclusion that ""so far"" Umar Akmal is having a better World cup then Kohli and since Kohli has been playing in a similiar role like Umar Akmal has been doing for a while I can firmy say that...

Umar Akmal is BETTER then Virat Kohli.

 

[srg]

I'm glad you used that word because you did NOT understand my point correctly as I'm discussing about Kohli v Umar Akmal here... Not the World cup 1999 my fellow PP'er.

Let me make it clear and simple for you...

1)Umar Akmal has scored more runs then Kohi in the World cup despite playing few overs then Kohli.

2) Umar Akmal has a higher and better average then Kohli in thw World cup

3) Umar Akmal has been more lethal when they BOTH have played at a similiar position, role or situation.

4) Umar Akmal has taken MORE catches then Kohli has during the World cup

5) Umar Akmal has a higher strike rate then Kohli in the World cup

These 5 are all FACTS which comes to my final and hopefully last conclusion that ""so far"" Umar Akmal is having a better World cup then Kohli and since Kohli has been playing in a similiar role like Umar Akmal has been doing for a while I can firmy say that...

Umar Akmal is BETTER then Virat Kohli.

I don't agree to that. Kohli is not a finisher. He's an accumulator with an aggressive mindset like sachin. The reason why kohli played in the similar position as Umar in last match was because Dhoni didn't have any choice..

 

[MRSN]

I don't agree to that. Kohli is not a finisher. He's an accumulator with an aggressive mindset like sachin. The reason why kohli played in the similar position as Umar in last match was because Dhoni didn't have any choice..

but he did fail for that particular role,would you plz agree with that?

 

[srg]

but he did fail for that particular role,would you plz agree with that?

It's a fact that he failed. Similarly there's no guarantee that Umar will succeed at No.4 and score a century keeping a cool head like Kohli? The bottom line is they both play different roles and did well so far in their short careers.

 

[MRSN]

It's fact. Similarly there's no guarantee that Umar will succeed at No.4 and score a century keeping a cool head like Kohli?

well he scored back to back 50s against Kiwis in t20s.So based on this I can say he is capable of batting at any position.

 

[Theo_14]

I don't agree to that. Kohli is not a finisher. He's an accumulator with an aggressive mindset like sachin. The reason why kohli played in the similar position as Umar in last match was because Dhoni didn't have any choice..

Kohli has played more then 1 game in a similiar role/situation like Umar Akmal has been doing for a while and I'm simply not bothered why Kohli is being used in a unfavoured role because I could say the same thing about Umar Akmal but the bottom line is that...

Judging from the games in World cup and the fact Kohli has played in a similiar role that Umar Akmal plays in the last 3-4 games - It's more then clear that Umar Akmal has been more succesful.

And that's the bottom line.

 

[Kenyan Desi]

Yet another strong performance by Kohli. Goes to show that if you stick to your strengths, you can thrive in any condition. He is a number 3 - 4 batsman and in this current line up needs to come after Gautam Gambhir.

 

[Riff]

Kohli is just awesome

 

[MRSN]

Kohli again disappoints against a top side, made 24 on 33 balls so he is just a minnow basher.

 

[Junior_Akmal]

I was waiting for someone to bump this thread

 

[ZenBowman]

Kohli again disappoints against a top side, made 24 on 33 balls so he is just a minnow basher.

Loose shot, but he played a decent innings given the situation. He is not yet a top tier batsman, but he will get there in 2-3 years.

 

[Junior_Akmal]

Loose shot, but he played a decent innings given the situation. He is not yet a top tier batsman, but he will get there in 2-3 years.

This looks more like an excuse than a counter comment.

 

[srh]

Umar Akmal is ahead of Kohli.

 

[sohailmm]

I saw Kohli in the WC .From the innings it seems he is good solid find . But comparing him to Umar Akmal is unfair ,there is no comparison to be fair.
Umar Akmal talent is matchless in the current young cricketers.yes Umar is work in progress but he will definitely end up as one of the top batsman in Current Cricket.
While Kohli is from Dravid school of thought and even if he excells to the best of his abilities ,he cant match Umar Akmal in class and talent.
Although i think Kohli might end up with better career stats( only marginally ,coz of his consistency) but career stat is not everything .isn't it ?

 

[Statsman]

In terms of looks, Virat miles ahead

:umarakmal

 

[Fireworks11]

Does looks win you games?

 

[cardinalsfan]

I saw Kohli in the WC .From the innings it seems he is good solid find . But comparing him to Umar Akmal is unfair ,there is no comparison to be fair.
Umar Akmal talent is matchless in the current young cricketers.yes Umar is work in progress but he will definitely end up as one of the top batsman in Current Cricket.
While Kohli is from Dravid school of thought and even if he excells to the best of his abilities ,he cant match Umar Akmal in class and talent.
Although i think Kohli might end up with better career stats( only marginally ,coz of his consistency) but career stat is not everything .isn't it ?

i dont know which talent you are talking about. Kohli plays all the shots Umar could play. For me, Umar is more like a slogger. He struggles against good pace bowling. He scored century in the few matches in both ODI and test. but after that he has been struggling to score even 50. now he has lost his place in test side too.

 

[JibranAnsari]

drop kohli to number 6 and promote umar to number 3. The stats would be other way around. Umar just is not playing at the right position.

 

[cardinalsfan]

drop kohli to number 6 and promote umar to number 3. The stats would be other way around. Umar just is not playing at the right position.

If thats easy why is not pakistan team management not doing it now? I remember seeing Umar playing at number 3 and he was struggling like anything.. then they put him back to number 5/6. I have been following Umar's career since he came on.

moreover playing at no 3 is not easy. most difficult position. You will never know when you are going to get in. in the first over or 20th over. based on how you bat, innings platform will be built most of the times, so you will be under lot of pressure. Openers always have excuse that they are supposed to take the shine off the bat. even if they bat for 5 to 8 overs without losing wicket their job is half done.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

umarakmal has been used and abused.

he should be batting at 4.

 

[Sir_Afridi]

Looking at the WC performance, Umar craps all over Kohli despite playing in tougher SL conditions.

 

[Fireworks11]

Umar Akmal any day of the year. Any time.

 

[cardinalsfan]

Umar Akmal any day of the year. Any time.

for me kohli any day. umar akmal is more like hit or miss for me.

 

[Crazy_K]

In terms of looks, Virat miles ahead

:umarakmal

And in terms of homosexuality - you're in the lead

Even though its a good laugh debating this, they're both totally different batsmen, so comparing them is not smart

 

[Fireworks11]

for me kohli any day. umar akmal is more like hit or miss for me.

Kohli is also a hit and miss. Umar is better when in 'hit' mode.

 

[Cracket]

Kohli is a delusion imo. He won't stay in the team for long. He's doing decent now, but always fail in matches that really count playing extremely stupid shots. He is skilled but I just feel he doesn't have what it takes to stay in the game for long.

 

[cardinalsfan]

Kohli is also a hit and miss. Umar is better when in 'hit' mode.

Yes hit or miss player is one of the consistent performers in the last 2 yrs or so. he was ranked no 2 just a month ago.

Umar akmal is ranked no 35 or something. that only shows he has not been consistant.

 

[Fireworks11]

Rankings don't mean much. Kohli plays some silly shots when set. He won't last.

 

[Crazy_K]

Rankings don't mean much. Kohli plays some silly shots when set. He won't last.

Too old to learn?

 

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

umarakmal has been used and abused.

he should be batting at 4.

Completely agree. Now that we have a solid number three, in Asad Shafiq.
But it is pointless comparing these two anyways, they are different type of players.

 

[cardinalsfan]

Rankings don't mean much. Kohli plays some silly shots when set. He won't last.

thats BS. Ranking shows who is consistant and who is not. It only proves why Kohli is not a hit and miss player.

If you dont take ranking, I would say Jaddu is better player than Umar akmal. You have to run back to batting averages to prove Umar akmal better.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Completely agree. Now that we have a solid number three, in Asad Shafiq.
But it is pointless comparing these two anyways, they are different type of players.

We shouldnt judge players so quickly....

Why is Shafiq a solid number three?

He is a young player showing promise... thats all.

 

[Statsman]

And in terms of homosexuality - you're in the lead

Even though its a good laugh debating this, they're both totally different batsmen, so comparing them is not smart

so calling a guy good looking is homosexuality?
You sir are at no 1, in terms of narrow mindedness and stupidity

 

[khurramjamil]

so calling a guy good looking is homosexuality?
You sir are at no 1, in terms of narrow mindedness and stupidity

Again Crazy_k proved to be no.1 and at the highest level of stupidity ) back to the topic guys .... i think there is no comparison between the 2 because both have different style of playing and approach to the game...

 

[Fireworks11]

thats BS. Ranking shows who is consistant and who is not. It only proves why Kohli is not a hit and miss player.

If you dont take ranking, I would say Jaddu is better player than Umar akmal. You have to run back to batting averages to prove Umar akmal better.

This thread is about Umar v Kohli, as overall players, not who is doing better on current form. Compare the two as players going by what you have seen of them in their respective International Careers to date.

 

[CoolSERAZ]

virat hasnt played tests yet. so unfair to comment on who is the better cricketer overall. but in odis, virat is better cause he has a better temperament. umar is too impatient and after 1-2 boundaries goes for another one and gets out. virat can change his game to take the 1-2 runs like he did in world cup final.

 

[cardinalsfan]

This thread is about Umar v Kohli, as overall players, not who is doing better on current form. Compare the two as players going by what you have seen of them in their respective International Careers to date.

Yes I understand that in this thread we are comparing both Kohli and Umar as a batsman overall. Still my point is Umar is very very inconsistant in all the formats he has played so far whereas Kohli has been very consistant in all the formats he has played. The ranking proves and amount of runs he has scored in the last two years prove that.

Umar maybe a slightly better hitter than kohli but kohli is more like a complete player for me, more like Ponting or Inzi. He takes time to get settled and dominate the attack once settled. by the time he finishes the innings his strike would be something close to 100% or more. Also he has been playing well under pressure, especially chasing. he is very reliable. very good both on front foot and back foot hence he scored loads of runs in South Africa as well.

With Umar, at least what I have found is, he is a confused player. He has some hitting talent for sure. but he does not know how to build the innings. sometimes over attacking or over defensive. plays unnecessary shots sometimes and gets out. overall at least so far in their career, Kohli has done far better job to India than Umar has done to Pakistan.

 

[kamal]

Kohli has 5 other Batsmen in the team to make him look good.
Umar does not have that.

 

[cardinalsfan]

Kohli has 5 other Batsmen in the team to make him look good.
Umar does not have that.

thats again lame excuse. Andy Flower scored loads of runs when whole batting lineup was failing during 90s. Sachin did the same as well. Sachin did not get extra credit for that. If you are talented and good enough player in the international level, you should be able to perform well even if others in your team dont do well.

Also kohli being with other great batsmen is not exactly less pressure, infact he is under more pressure, as lot of young batsmen waiting in the wings and waiting for him to fail. If kohli had been failing like Umar, he would have been long gone from Indian ODI squad.

 

[usman.sandhu]

Umar Akmal is a very talented batsman... With the right kind of supervision and coaching, he can go on to become one of the greats of the game...

Virat Kohli is an excellent batsman... However, he still has a lot to do before I can say that he can go on to become one of the game's greats.. He has the advantage at the moment as he plays in the company of immensly talented batsmen...

Virat Kohli is stable and tries to be consistent... But he lacks the WOW factor that Umar Akmal has.. Umar Akmal has the ability to take bowling attacks apart.. Virat does not have that..

But, Umar Akmal needs to work on his attitude and temperament to become one of the game's greats... He certainly has the potential to do so...:umarakmal

 

[Bhaijaan]

The popular thread had enough sleep

so what's the latest verdict

 

[Bhaijaan]

Umar ain't ugly, and as far as talent is concerned he probably has more

 

[Poison]

Umar Akmal any day of the week. Except Juma