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Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

sakss said:
what did he do .....i missed it
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Here read the Cricinfo commentary on his wicket.

Sammy to Kohli, OUT, strangled down the leg side, the leg stump line has worked for Sammy, he is delighted, lots of jumping, lots of fist-pumping, Virat is distraught, there was a big deflection, possibly there was a bit of bat and pad both, neat take from Baugh, Virat takes an age to go back as umpire Kettleborough gives him the marching orders, flings down his equipment as he reaches the dressing room
 
oo....hope he does get fined then....no room for showing distraught at the umpires..
 
kingusama92 said:
Kohli has serious attitude issues.
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I think its his antics that suck and not his attitude.

I am sure if he keep doing the same thing, in future he will overtake Bhajji and sreesanth as the most hatred Indian player
 
velu said:
I think its his antics that suck and not his attitude.

I am sure if he keep doing the same thing, in future he will overtake Bhajji and sreesanth as the most hatred Indian player
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He certainly doesn't seem to have respect for other people. That is pretty bad attitude he is carrying.
 
Kohli has been disappointing. I will take a less talented Raina any day to Kohli in test matches. The difference is that Raina has excellent attitude and is a great fighter.
 
Keeping the avgs. and stats aside Uma Akmal is far better player than Kohli.Umar's natural talent is more than Virat Kohli.He will have to work hard apparently Umar Akmal is winning this contest.
 
giri26 said:
Kohli has been disappointing. I will take a less talented Raina any day to Kohli in test matches. The difference is that Raina has excellent attitude and is a great fighter.
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Raina is a more humble and soft spoken person. The kid is a good learner and respects opposition, kohli goes full 50 cent style :butt , Raina will lead India in 2020 world cup.
 
Century hitting machine is back :hamster: :sachin

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Kohli is better than Umar Akmal at the moment, no doubt about that.

Umar started so well but the last year has not been good for him. He needs a prober batting coach to work with.

Still more talented than Kohli, but now he needs to transform this into better performances. Good luck.
 
Both out of test team now :))

Hence someone who epitomizes everything wrong in Cricket wins.
 
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IAJ;4177109[B said:
]Kohli is better than Umar Akmal at the moment, [/B]no doubt about that.

Umar started so well but the last year has not been good for him. He needs a prober batting coach to work with.

Still more talented than Kohli, but now he needs to transform this into better performances. Good luck.
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That is so not true
 
emclub said:
Virat Kohli MILES better
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:)))

How did Kohli do on his first test?

Compare that to Umars first test.

Who has more test fifties? UMAR

Who has more test hundreds? UMAR

Who plays with a less accomplished batting line up? UMAR

Who plays with legends? KOHLI

Who plays at NO.6 where there isn't much chance of making a century? UMAR

UMAR AKMAL > KOHLI
 
Bullet Drive said:
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How did Kohli do on his first test?

Compare that to Umars first test.

Who has more test fifties? UMAR

Who has more test hundreds? UMAR

Who plays with a less accomplished batting line up? UMAR

Who plays with legends? KOHLI

Who plays at NO.6 where there isn't much chance of making a century? UMAR

UMAR AKMAL > KOHLI
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Ermmm Kohli has played only 3 Test matches compared to Umar's 16 :facepalm:

I don't buy this rubbish that playing with legends means you have an advantage..every man for themselves. Lara carried the WI's batting on his shoulders alone!

Umar is talented, but playing pretty 30's aint gona get him anywhere.

Overall at this stage... Kohli> Umar.
 
in_cutter said:
Ermmm Kohli has played only 3 Test matches compared to Umar's 16 :facepalm:

I don't buy this rubbish that playing with legends means you have an advantage..every man for themselves. Lara carried the WI's batting on his shoulders alone!

Umar is talented, but playing pretty 30's aint gona get him anywhere.

Overall at this stage... Kohli> Umar.
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3 test matches and how many centuries? How many fifties..

how many scores above 40?

Umar Akmals first 3 tests he averaged 63.

Kohli's first 3 tests he averages 15 with a high score of 30
 
Bullet Drive said:
3 test matches and how many centuries? How many fifties..

how many scores above 40?

Umar Akmals first 3 tests he averaged 63.

Kohli's first 3 tests he averages 15 with a high score of 30
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UA- from an average of 63, down to a low 35..what does that tell you???

Im not saying Umar is not talented..he is.

Ali Naqvi made a century on Test debut, where is he now? As did Mohammed Wasim, where is he now?? It's all good scoring a 100 on debut, but consistency is the key.
 
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Kohli is a fantastic player but, when you've played your debut matches away from home like Akmal, and Pakistan doesn't have the players to surround Umar Akmal with protection and experience like Kohli. Judging both side-by-side is useless. As I said numerous times, give Umar Akmal conditions and wickets like India, then we can compare the two.

Kohli struggled throughout the England tour, barring a couple of good knocks later on in the tour when England won the series and rested players. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
 
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Bullet Drive said:
:)))

How did Kohli do on his first test?

Compare that to Umars first test.

Who has more test fifties? UMAR

Who has more test hundreds? UMAR

Who plays with a less accomplished batting line up? UMAR

Who plays with legends? KOHLI

Who plays at NO.6 where there isn't much chance of making a century? UMAR

UMAR AKMAL > KOHLI
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Who abuses kids in the crowd and screams like a sissy girl? Kohli...hence he is better
 
No one's a clear winner currently. The race is still on. Let's see who achieves more
 
Mazher Majeed, who represented several Pakistan players, also said he attempted to fix a passage of play during the World Twenty20 tournament in 2010 and that he “groomed” young players in the squad as they would be “around for years”, Southwark Crown Court heard.

Majeed claimed to control Butt, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Amir, Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal and Wahab Riaz. He also named Imran Farhat but, the prosecution added, Majeed clarified he was “not completely in the circle”.

Butt and Asif deny charges of cheating and accepting corrupt payments relating to the Lord’s Test in 2010. Majeed and Amir are not part of current proceedings and the jury have been told their absence from the dock is “nothing sinister”.

The jury were read texts sent between Majeed and Butt in May last year during which they allegedly discussed fixing games at the Twenty20 World Cup in the West Indies.

In one message the agent texted Butt at 2.30am on May 9: “Ok, how about the other thing — one in the seventh over and one in the eighth?”

Cook: forget the summer, India will be tough 04 Oct 2011
Two further texts were sent to Butt the following day. “This will only work if you score in first two overs, no wickets,” read the first with the second stating: “Bro, also confirm other thing in seventh and eighth, one fall in each”.

The prosecution also claimed Butt was taped confirming he would deliberately bat a “maiden over” on the final day of last summer’s Oval Test.

Majeed discussed the arrangement with the cricketer by phone while agreeing a deal with an undercover journalist from the News of the World, Mazher Mahmood, posing as a rich Indian businessman.

Their alleged conversation, which was recorded by the reporter, was read to the jury.
Majeed said: “You know the maiden we were doing in the first over?”
Butt allegedly replied: “Yeah.”
Majeed: “You know the third over you face? Do one more maiden.”
Butt: “No, leave it, OK.”
Majeed: “You don’t want to do the third over?”
Butt: “Nai, yaar.” (“No, mate.”)
They then agreed a signal, Butt would tap the pitch, to show the bet was on. When the reporter asked if Butt would co-operate, Majeed said: “Believe me — he’s done this many times”. When
pressed he added: “Salman is a million per cent. Trust me.”

In the event Butt did not play the maiden over as planned after he ended up batting earlier than expected.

The jury was shown covertly-filmed footage of the News of the World reporter handing over £140,000 in £50 notes to the agent, who counted the money out. Majeed was heard saying: “I’m telling you, if you play this right, you’re going to make a lot of money.”
The prosecution said Majeed promised the reporter that Amir and Asif would deliver three no-balls at specific points in the Lord’s Test. Majeed allegedly said the no-balls would be “well over the mark”.
Aftab Jafferjee, QC, prosecuting said: “No umpire could possibly miss it. Asif, with his tact and greater experience, would bowl a no-ball which could not fail to be called, but only inches over the popping-crease.”

In the early hours of Aug 27, the second day of the match, Majeed sent a message to an unknown associate in which he allegedly alluded to a separate match-fixing scam he was involved in at the same time.

He wrote: “No-go for bowling bracket as conditions not good and too risky. Batsmen may not play shots. Second innings, hopefully.”
The prosecution alleged that this meant another bowler, said to be Asif, was involved in another match-rigging scam. Mr Jafferjee said: “In other words, we submit, Majeed is involved in fixing outside the deal with the journalist for the one more no-ball.”

After the News of the World alerted police to the alleged gambling scam, detectives searched the hotel rooms of some of the Pakistan players and found large amounts of cash.

In Butt’s room officers discovered £31,000, of which £2,500 was made up of the marked £50 notes that Mahmood gave Majeed. Amir had £9,500, of which £1,500 was from the News of the World notes, and Asif had £8,000.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cr...omed-by-agent-to-fix-matches-court-hears.html

LONDON: Three more Pakistani cricketers have been implicated in the spot-fixing scandal during the ongoing trial of the tainted trio -- Salman Butt , Mohammad Aamir and Mohammad Asif -- at a court in England.

In February, British prosecutors had "authorised charges of conspiracy to obtain and accept corrupt payments, and also conspiracy to cheat" against the three Pakistani players implicated in the spot-fixing scandal as well as alleged bookmaker Mazhar Majeed.

During the trial, prosecutors told the Southwark Crown Court that Majeed boasted to an undercover reporter, who was posing as a rich businessman, that seven players in Pakistan’s national side were fixing matches for him in a hugely lucrative betting scam, the Daily Mail reports.

The 36-year old bookie spoke of the advantages of ’’grooming" younger cricketers to work with him as they would be ’’around for years".

Majeed named ’his’ players as Butt, Asif, Aamir, fast bowler Wahab Riaz, wicket-keeper Kamran Akmal, and batsmen Umar Akmal and Imran Farhat, although prosecutor Aftab Jafferjee said that the agent explained that there was a ’little question mark’ about Farhat.

According to the report, Majeed told the undercover journalist that the cricketers he worked with had agreed to fix parts of their next game for him during two ’brackets’ -- a set period on which to bet -- in return for 150,000 pounds, the court heard.

"They’re not willing to give you anything, until you give a large, substantial amount. Ten grand is peanuts," the agent allegedly said.

On August 25, the day before the final Test match of the series between England and Pakistan at Lord’s, the journalist met Majeed in a room at the Copthorne Tara hotel off Kensington High Street in central London [ Images ], the report said.

The jury was shown a secretly-filmed video of the undercover reporter handing 140,000 pounds in 50 Pound notes to the agent, who counted out the money on a table in front of him.

Majeed promised the undercover reporter that Pakistan fast bowlers Aamir, 19, and Asif, 28, would deliver three no-balls at specific points in the Lord’s Test, the court heard.

Majeed allegedly said that the no-balls would be ’well over the mark’ to ensure that they were noted by the match officials.

Prosecutor Aftab Jafferjee QC commented: "No umpire could possibly miss it. Asif, with his tact and greater experience would bowl a no-ball which could not fail to be called, but only inches over the popping-crease."

"The relatively hapless Aamir would end up bowling no-balls that, as a seasoned cricket statistician will tell you, were the biggest no-balls he’s ever seen," he added.

The footage of the Lord’s match was played in court, and the prosecutor noted that Aamir’s first invalid delivery was ’an enormous no-ball’.

The tainted trio face up to seven years in prison if they are convicted of corruption and cheating.

Source: http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=184308
 
Cricfan4eva said:
As far as ODI's are concerned, UA needs to catch up with Kohli. In tests atm UA is ahead, Kohli can easily over-take him though, he has the temperament to score big unlike UA.
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oh really :razzaq

by playing at home and vs bangldesh indeed :asif

umer has yet 2 play a single odi at home...

if it was kholi his avg would ave been in mid 20s...:akhtar
 
Sure, If UA had played in Pakistan, I'm sure his test average would've topped Bradman's.

(told what you wanted to hear, happy now?) Now let sensible posters discuss.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Sure, If UA had played in Pakistan, I'm sure his test average would've topped Bradman's.

(told what you wanted to hear, happy now?) Now let sensible posters discuss.
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why reality hurts son:akhtar

3 odis 100s in india

2 in bangldesh

1 in england

wah kiya dashin batsman:akhtar

wrong again he would ave avg less then 20s....

:asif

and last thing i thought u indians love reading abt stats ..... may be u forgot when it comes 2 kholi bashing at home and in bangladesh

:D
 
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whtever it is both remain so vlunerable at the crease all the time :kholi :umarakmal
 
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Umar Akmal is more talented and a better bat than Kholi but he is in an unfortunate situation playing for a dis-organised, chaotic cricket board like the PCB.. Chances Akmal will eventually fade into thin air and ppl will be talking about what couldve been a great career. RIP UA...
 
Currently u have to be a very big UA Fanboy to rate him above Virat Kohli in ODIs

Simple comparison of Away Averages Excluding Minnows and further excluding Bangladesh as Venue which effectively removes Kohli's 5 Centuries and 40+ Average

But even then he is above Umar Akmal :facepalm:

Umar Akmal Averages 32 with 1 Century and 3 Fifties
Century came against Sri Lanka

Virat Kohli Averages 35 with 1 Century and 6 Fifties
Century came against England

If Umar Akmal bats at 4 im sure he can match or even overtake Kohli but currently Kohli is ahead
 
Kohli can easily get his test average up in 40s with a big hundred. Very capable of doing it
 
VTEC said:
Currently u have to be a very big UA Fanboy to rate him above Virat Kohli in ODIs

Simple comparison of Away Averages Excluding Minnows and further excluding Bangladesh as Venue which effectively removes Kohli's 5 Centuries and 40+ Average

But even then he is above Umar Akmal :facepalm:

Umar Akmal Averages 32 with 1 Century and 3 Fifties
Century came against Sri Lanka

Virat Kohli Averages 35 with 1 Century and 6 Fifties
Century came against England

If Umar Akmal bats at 4 im sure he can match or even overtake Kohli but currently Kohli is ahead
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rite :yk

when u ave 2 play day in day out away from home.... only then u can say whose this or whose that...

making runs while on away tour is another thing....Being away al the time is another matter... go ask steve harmison:D

you might be kholi fanboy but we arent decieved by ipl bowlers or not even by you..
 
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Talent is nothing without the ability to utilize it ( i read it somewhere). Though it is unfair to compare two batsmen who play at different positions in a limited over format. But if watch two players at the crease Kohli looks calmer and more comfortable. umar akmal always seems to be in a hurry and tries to play smart shots way too many. In the end it is all in the mind , how you plan and play your game. KOHLI is the winner at the moment.

P.S
i am an Umar Akmal fan.
 
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rite

when u ave 2 play day in day out away from home.... only then u can say whose this or whose that...

making runs while on away tour is another thing....Being away al the time is another matter... go ask steve harmison

you might be kholi fanboy but we arent decieved by ipl bowlers or not even by you..
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Yar we can continue to make excuses but Umar Akmal is not doing justice to his talents
its as simple as that

Although we cannot blame him completely as he comes in at 6 but from the current standings im not too confident about Umar Akmal
 
VTEC said:
Yar we can continue to make excuses but Umar Akmal is not doing justice to his talents
its as simple as that

Although we cannot blame him completely as he comes in at 6 but from the current standings im not too confident about Umar Akmal
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what excuses?

these are facts!!!

like i said only those who been there done it can explain 2 you how hard it is playing away from home day in day out...

im not making excuses comparsion should be made after both have tasted same pitches...

talking abt injustice abt talent wel he made more runs on his first tour of england then both inzi n miandad and more then many from last summer indians players
 
some of you giving excuses that Akmal bats too low , do you guys think hes has the technique to open or bat at no3 ? ...& I bet its the same guys who argue Dhonis avg is high cos he bats low ...good players do well no matter where they play & which team they play for ...Akmals issue is his shoddy technique & blind slogging , neither PCB or the selectors . Stop calling him a talent pls .
 
^ yeh he came with a bang with a Century in only his 3rd ODI Inning and an impressive S/R

i would expect he to have made atleast another Ton till now but like i said unless he bats at 4 i dont see him progressing

U can say what ever u want but they r still excuses
Umar Akmal doesnt look very comfortable at the crease and if he plays 2-3 dots balls he just has to take a wild swing and goes out cheaply

Thats the main problem he throws away his wicket very cheaply :/
 
VTEC said:
^ yeh he came with a bang with a Century in only his 3rd ODI Inning and an impressive S/R

i would expect he to have made atleast another Ton till now but like i said unless he bats at 4 i dont see him progressing

U can say what ever u want but they r still excuses
Umar Akmal doesnt look very comfortable at the crease and if he plays 2-3 dots balls he just has to take a wild swing and goes out cheaply

Thats the main problem he throws away his wicket very cheaply :/
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hahaha lame in team where every one is fighting with each other per match what u expect?

go watch more lame stupid ipl and follow kholi:akhtar
 
jusarrived said:
some of you giving excuses that Akmal bats too low , do you guys think hes has the technique to open or bat at no3 ? ...& I bet its the same guys who argue Dhonis avg is high cos he bats low ...good players do well no matter where they play & which team they play for ...Akmals issue is his shoddy technique & blind slogging , neither PCB or the selectors . Stop calling him a talent pls .
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the most talented young batsman in the world!

talking abt good players... hahaha go watch highlights of 2011 india tour of england

how the so called good players performed
 
hahaha lame in team where every one is fighting with each other per match what u expect?

go watch more lame stupid ipl and follow kholi
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:akhtar

What ever anyone watches doesnt change the fact that U Akmal throws away his wicket too cheaply
 
CORNERED-TIGER said:
the most talented young batsman in the world!
talking abt good players... hahaha go watch highlights of 2011 india tour of england

how the so called good players performed
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:))
only ppers can call ugly sloggers as talents .
I hope India never ever has to deal with 'talents' like Akmal , Nazir , fawad alam etc .
 
jusarrived said:
:))
only ppers can call ugly sloggers as talents .
I hope India never ever has to deal with 'talents' like Akmal , Nazir , fawad alam etc .
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and I hope Pakistan never has to deal with the TALENTS or should i say LEGENDS like Vijay, Jadeja, Raina and the PATELS
 
@Ali Muzzaffar Agreed

only ppers can call ugly sloggers as talents .
I hope India never ever has to deal with 'talents' like Akmal , Nazir , fawad alam etc .
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Our Akmals Nazirs and Alams are better than Rainas Jadejas Vinayjas Thekedars
 
Ali Muzaffar said:
and I hope Pakistan never has to deal with the TALENTS or should i say LEGENDS like Vijay, Jadeja, Raina and the PATELS
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They would be legends in Pakistan , any doubts ? for all his flaws Pak hasnt produced a batsmen half decent as Raina in recent years .
 
jusarrived said:
They would be legends in Pakistan , any doubts ? for all his flaws Pak hasnt produced a batsmen half decent as Raina in recent years .
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Lol wut?

Raina averages 29 in test cricket. Even Shoaib Malik averages more than that. :)))
 
VTEC said:
:akhtar

What ever anyone watches doesnt change the fact that U Akmal throws away his wicket too cheaply
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how many 100 did sachin made in his first 77 odi matches

:akhtar

give the young kid time...

stop watching ipl and grow up and stop playing xbox:akhtar where 100s are made for fun:yk
 
jusarrived said:
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only ppers can call ugly sloggers as talents .
I hope India never ever has to deal with 'talents' like Akmal , Nazir , fawad alam etc .
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what did ur sachin do in his forst 77 odis matches ?

oh whats the excuse son:asif

before criticisng some one else look in the mirror :akhtar
 
how many 100 did sachin made in his first 77 odi matches
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What does Sachin have to do with the fact that UA throws away his wicket cheaply? :facepalm:
 
VTEC said:
What does Sachin have to do with the fact that UA throws away his wicket cheaply? :facepalm:
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:faceplam:

before criticisng some one why dnt u ave look at some one who is called the god of cricket...

is umar akmal the only batsman who is aggrassive?

throws away his wicket lol you mean like he did in semi final of wc after great blocks by >>>:yk:misbah


if that what u ment then ofcoz he does:yk
 
jusarrived said:
They would be legends in Pakistan , any doubts ? for all his flaws Pak hasnt produced a batsmen half decent as Raina in recent years .
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Thanks we dont need a batsmen like Raina we are good with what we hav we would rather take Jadeja than Raina
 
before criticisng some one why dnt u ave look at some one who is called the god of cricket...

is umar akmal the only batsman who is aggrassive?

throws away his wicket lol you mean like he did in semi final of wc after great blocks by >>yk


if that what u ment then ofcoz he does
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Since Tendulkar sucked in his first 77ODIs does it give a free ticket to every upcoming batsman to Suck till 70 ODI matches?

Ok he failed but that doesnt mean u should fail too :facepalm:

UA got out a very good delivery and no one is blaming him for WC Semi

But watching him over the years he tends to throw away his wicket alot and this is something many agree on
 
VTEC said:
Since Tendulkar sucked in his first 77ODIs does it give a free ticket to every upcoming batsman to Suck till 70 ODI matches?

Ok he failed but that doesnt mean u should fail too :facepalm:

UA got out a very good delivery and no one is blaming him for WC Semi

But watching him over the years he tends to throw away his wicket alot and this is something many agree on
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SEEN umer akmal every odi match..

not seen him throw his wicket away like u guys put it...

more like team requirements and stupid top order flops helped him getting out earlier...

and mind u sachin played most of his first odis at home:akhtar
 
jusarrived said:
They would be legends in Pakistan , any doubts ? for all his flaws Pak hasnt produced a batsmen half decent as Raina in recent years .
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well pakistan has produced enough batsman to do well in cricket , what has india produced in the last 60 years apart from more babies:asif and a gentetically inferior breed of bowlers , who pull a muscle trying to cross the 60 mph hurdle , a fact even the indian trundler par excellance admits :jaheer khan ..

On topic :This comparison would only be valid the day kohli starts scoring runs in test cricket , because frankly speaking on indian highways even shoaib malik becomes the second coming of the Don ..
 
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SEEN umer akmal every odi match..

not seen him throw his wicket away like u guys put it...

more like team requirements and stupid top order flops helped him getting out earlier...

and mind u sachin played most of his first odis at home
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Well i think we have been watching different Cricket Matches

The bold part can be solved very easily if UA bats at 4 a spot just about perfect for him
with Asad Shafiq at 3 Anchoring the Innings Umar Akmal can play his natural game

PS: Why u keep bringing in Sachin?
 
VTEC said:
Well i think we have been watching different Cricket Matches

The bold part can be solved very easily if UA bats at 4 a spot just about perfect for him
with Asad Shafiq at 3 Anchoring the Innings Umar Akmal can play his natural game

PS: Why u keep bringing in Sachin?
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yes u only seen highlights:junaid

sachin hahahha read as 2 why
 
I honestly believe Kohli can't play an innings like Umar Akmal did under pressure returning back even if we don't win he still played really good
 
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