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Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

-umar akmal is killing of his own talent... needs to learn to play shots along the floor with power, than hitting th ball in the ar everytime..... needs a few tips from kholi more like it.....
 
NO 1 AFRIDI FAN said:
With the amount of talent he has he can become something big - the next best batsmen from Pakistan maybe. However, the ways in which he gets out are just :facepalm: worthy, tbh.



^^

Completely agree with this!

Virat has had the privilege to be batting alongside the best batsmen in the business whereas Umar has had to have the responsibility of being our best batsman.
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exactly. Just compare Virat's partners in ODIs (Tendulkar, Gambhir etc) with Umar Akmal's partners in ODIs (YK and Misbah) and you will feel really bad for Umar Akmal.
 
Its a pity because on talent alone, Akmal is clearly ahead.

But Kohli is a far superior player in every way now.
 
Again, PP making excuses for pet players not performing:

Coached poorly
Has bad batting partners
Should play his natural game
Should open
Should not open
Should wicketkeep
Shouldnt wicketkeep
Batting too high in the order
Batting too low in the order
 
ODI team company is a bad excuse. the greatest are only leaders, not followers. he is the supposed 'best' batsman we have and if alone cant learn from his mistakes how can he be the best or teach the next generation if he survives till then
 
Kohli as a batsmen is something special a legend in making:) (but his ego..)

problem is ego wise Akmal=Kohli

batting abilities Kohli = Akmal,
temperament and ability to score. Kohli > > >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Akmal
 
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even though for me he his new hate full Indian player... but dude... yes... he is way head of Umer Akmal... there is no comparison
 
Umar Akmal has no Game plan. Hopefully Whatmore will sort his scrambled brain out.
 
umar akmal has batted well when he has played with a senior batsmen who doesn't put the pressure on him by stopping the run flow (kamran akmal, afridi, younis, yousuf).... he doesn't usually do well with misbah because misbah creates a lot of pressure on akmal to score quickly..

as of right now, it not even close, kohli is on another level
 
Bit of an injustice to Kohli, who is miles apart in talent and achievement. Like Imran Khan said he was not as talented but had to work twice as hard to achieve.

Umar Akmalwho has loads of talent is far too complacent in his play, getting to the point where you can sense him gifting his wicket to similar shots.

Kohli puts a price on his wicket and already has a lovely ODI record.
 
Now I would like to see the reaction from these guys when Umar scores his fifty next time. I will bookmark this thread.
 
Down2Earth said:
kohli hasn't been coached by retards all his international career
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Lame excuse.
M Yousuf and Inzi were coached by who?? As far as i remember Intikhab Alam was the coach when Inzi came into International cricket.
 
If programmed properly:


Code: 
let batsman1 = 'Umar Akmal';
let batsman2 = 'Virat Kohli';

if (batsman1 BETTER_THAN batsman2)
  PRINT 'Umar is better';
ELSE IF (batsman1 == batsman2)
  PRINT 'They both suck';
ELSE
  PRINT 'Virat Kohli is better';

I tried and got the following output:

Code: 
Virat Kohli is better;
 
jy1970us said:
Umar Akmal is more talented than Kohli.
But in ODIs Kohli is learning from way better ODI batsmen. While Umar Akmal has to put up with YK in ODIs who is one of the world's worst ODI player.
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I never thought about that. Good point.
 
Do people think MHK should give Umar another :quote:rest:quote: from international cricket?
 
I would love to see kohli batting with Misbah batting on the other end. I would love to see how kohli will react when misbah will block 4 ball an over takes single on the fifth and gives kohli a single ball to play in three consecutive overs. Kohli is clearly far better , but the gulf would have been narrow if he had a player who knew how to rotate the strike on other end.
 
i am digressing but most interesting part of this thread is that many PP'ers calling indian batsmen (tendulkar, dravid, cambhir, sehwag) great not FTB.

talent is something one cannot gauge. its just a word as long as it materialize into performances. akmal may or may not be talented but cricket hostory is full with the talented and failures. sometimes simple brain is more important then great talent. players like boycott, shastri, mudassar, gomes, border were not that talented players but they played very important role for there teams success. akmal needs to use brain and nobody can do this for him, simple as that.
 
:umarakmal You can't compare both of these players until they are at their prime age of 27-32. Umar akmal is our inzamam and virat kohli is India's Dravid. Inzamam was really aggressive when he first came to the scene similar to Akmal. And I rate inzi higher than Dravid
 
Harper said:
:umarakmal You can't compare both of these players until they are at their prime age of 27-32. Umar akmal is our inzamam and virat kohli is India's Dravid. Inzamam was really aggressive when he first came to the scene similar to Akmal. And I rate inzi higher than Dravid
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Kohli has a Strike Rate of 83 in ODIs how is he comparable to Dravid?

And please dont tarnish the Image of a Great Batsman like Inzamam
Umar Akmal for and for the foreseeable future is far far from being a Batsman like Inzamam
 
JibranAnsari said:
I would love to see kohli batting with Misbah batting on the other end. I would love to see how kohli will react when misbah will block 4 ball an over takes single on the fifth and gives kohli a single ball to play in three consecutive overs. Kohli is clearly far better , but the gulf would have been narrow if he had a player who knew how to rotate the strike on other end.
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veru good point. If Kohli has to play with Misbah and YK in ODIs then his performance will dive even more than Umar Akmal's.
 
JibranAnsari said:
I would love to see kohli batting with Misbah batting on the other end. I would love to see how kohli will react when misbah will block 4 ball an over takes single on the fifth and gives kohli a single ball to play in three consecutive overs. Kohli is clearly far better , but the gulf would have been narrow if he had a player who knew how to rotate the strike on other end.
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change ur nationaltiy to Indian
 
Its not one dismissal... Its one after the other and the other... His mental strength and approach is the biggest disappointment for me... If he does not improve in those areas, he will be finished in year or two...

Umar Akmal has being disappointing in this series... At the same time Pakistan is not using him well at all... Why they are trying to make him a slogger???

They need to develop him as a 1/2 down ODI player, not 5/6 down slogger... He is too good of a talent to be just converted into a slogger batsman...
 
lol at all the people making excuses for umar akmal.. greatness supercedes over any situation your put into.. umar akmal clearly doesnt have the brains to be a great.. it doesnt matter who your batting with.. look at the likes of Lara and Flower
 
Umar Akmal is more like Pakistani Rohit Sharma with more brutality and less elegance.

Virat is the man on mission. The guy's got his eyes set on something big. Already 3,000 ODI runs in no time. Kohli, Bravo, Chandimal are the real horses. The next Tendulkar, Lara, Mahela right there. I always prefer Rohit's batting but damn this Kohli is unstoppable..
 
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freelance_cricketer said:
Umar Akmal is more like Pakistani Rohit Sharma with more brutality and less elegance.

Virat is the man on mission. The guy's got his eyes set on something big. Already 3,000 ODI runs in no time. Kohli, Bravo, Chandimal are the real horses. The next Tendulkar, Lara, Mahela right there. I always prefer Rohit's batting but damn this Kohli is unstoppable..
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So Rohit Sharma is not elegant? IMO he is the most elegant and most talented youngster in the world cricket.

only similarity between Umar and Rohit is both are throwing away their wickets. both have to work on their mental game.
 
saeed-sohail said:
So it was YK who forced him to have brainfarts sitting on the bench last two innings. How pathetic can some ppl get.
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The guy is totally lost....You are sending him on every spot and making changes to it every game....It wont be too long before he will be dropped.

You need to set his spot for #3 for life.

The guy is a rock solid ....Even he gets in before 15 overs...He can play new ball as good as openers and can easily smash it all over the ground.

By sending him around 6 position. You are not only limiting his chances to make an impact also ...Keeping him away from playing his shots. He comes in when we are 50/6 , 100/6 etc.

I hope this helps.
 
The effect of a crap senior ODI batsman :yk on a young ODI batsman :umarakmal should never be underestimated.
 
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After watching this kid for two three years its safe to say he will not be our Inzi. If he develops his temperament somehow, which is easier said then done because of the situation Pakistani batsmen find themselves in regularly, he will develop into a Salim Malik for us, hopefully much less corrupt though.
But that's if he begins that process now and try to spend time out in the middle. As things stand he is well on his way to be the Imran Nazir of this decade.
As for Kohli he has cemented his spot in the Indian middle order with Tendu, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Dhoni and Dravid, leap-froging Raina and Rohit who both had a huge head start over him. So in short our kid is not even in the same league as their kid at this point in time.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Umar Akmal is more like Pakistani Rohit Sharma with more brutality and less elegance.

Virat is the man on mission. The guy's got his eyes set on something big. Already 3,000 ODI runs in no time. Kohli, Bravo, Chandimal are the real horses. The next Tendulkar, Lara, Mahela right there. I always prefer Rohit's batting but damn this Kohli is unstoppable..
madaboutcricket said:
So Rohit Sharma is not elegant? IMO he is the most elegant and most talented youngster in the world cricket.

only similarity between Umar and Rohit is both are throwing away their wickets. both have to work on their mental game.
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Bhai mere, hur post do baar padh liya kro :facepalm:
 
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MMHS said:
During 2007 to 10, from that NCA under that certain Aussie, few others came out & 10 -12 years back, this gentleman had a great role in grooming the likes of Atapatu, Mahela, Sanga & Dilshan; all of whom are very good in converting starts.
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Only against Ashraful, he had to admit defeat :umarakmal
 
Anwar_194 said:
kohli got good seniors with him.....Likes of sachin, sehwag, dhoni..They all are good batsman and plays the ball well...On the other hands, we have garbage YK and TUK TUK master Misbah along with brain fart LALA...What else would you expect.

We produce better bowlers due the same reason as indian do the batsman..
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Doesn't matter who you have, yes its helps you to have experience but a good batsman assesses his own game and learns from his mistakes, Kohli has done that. Akmal on the other hand knows what he is doing wrong but he is yet to learn.

Talent wise Kohli = Umar but Kohli is much better in his application of his talent.
 
I really wonder how people here refer to UA as being 'Highly Talented' when he cannot control his temptations and fail eventually most of the times?


At the end of the day, you are judged by what you have done. Not by what you could've done.
 
style_guru said:
I really wonder how people here refer to UA as being 'Highly Talented' when he cannot control his temptations and fail eventually most of the times?


At the end of the day, you are judged by what you have done. Not by what you could've done.
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Precisely..

or else Hick,Ramprakash etc should have been ATG's
 
Kohli is ahead, but Akmal is a 'proper batsman', whatever that means.

Pakistani fans have really short memories.
 
Umar looks like he will become another in a long list of Pakistani players who never really kicked on and seem to stay around forever. Kohli looks like a guy who will become the next but one captain.
 
If anyone can go past 48 ODI hundreds of tendulkar then it will be kohli....
 
Umar Akmal needs to be a Virat Kohli

Umar Akmal is talented and a aggressive batsman but does not perform like virat kohli

Virat kohli is a little older than umar akmal but Virat Kohli at umar akmal age was making 100 and 50 consistenly

Umar Akmal only slog the ball most of the time but he also need to time the ball like virat kohli

their average are good

Umar around 39

Virat over 46


that is a big differnece

every time umar akmal gets a promotion in the line up he fails bad while virat does not
 
I've always mantained that Kholi is better, as by that 'famous' thread.


But this innings, and Akmals recent garbage just shows the difference.


Its not even a comparsion anymore. Its embarrasing to put the two in the same sentence.
 
Kohli is better anyday.
Not because he has more talent or skill, actually I think Akmal has shown more talent.

Kohli uses his brains while batting, which Akmal seems devoid of. Also he is surrounded by good batsmen putting less pressure on him.

Akmal seems to be lost now a days and doesnt seem to get support form other batsmen in the lineup.
 
Kholi is already doing what Sachin struggled with all his career.


Score a massive 100, stay not out, and lead the country to a victory.
 
The better comparison is whether Jadeja is better than Akmal.
Kohli is way off in the distance.
 
better than akmal by a country mile infact i think there shouldnt even be comparison
 
Kohli showed why he is the next Sachin for India, at least as far as ODIs are concerned.
 
Lets not forget Kohli is supported at the other end by batsmen playing for the teams cause. More often than not Umar is stuck in a position where he has to make runs for both batsmen.
 
Blitz said:
Kholi is already doing what Sachin struggled with all his career.


Score a massive 100, stay not out, and lead the country to a victory.
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Sachin is an opener, please. Staying not out till the end often is a big ask. Since Sachin scores at SR=87, his centuries should have all translated to win if the lower order had clicked. A finisher in an ODI would be batsmen who come at positions 4-7.
 
Compare Kohli to Shehzad, who just amassed a 40 ball century, maybe fair but other pakistani batsmen forget it, they r just pedestrians, mentally weak, technically at odds.
 
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