Varun Aaron - New Indian Genuine pacer

[Sledger]

look at the video he has bowled 153k as well so may be he is india's first genuine pacer

Yawn.. heard it all before.

 

[AZ]

153k?! )

looks like all the proper speed guns are at the WC.

 

[cricketindiafan]

153k?! )

looks like all the proper speed guns are at the WC.

Tab to Sreesanth has the fastest delivery ever bowled 108.9 mph or something in that match vs Bangladesh

 

[AZ]

Tab to Sreesanth has the fastest delivery ever bowled 108.9 mph or something in that match vs Bangladesh

LOL, fair point.

 

[Sledger]

I thought it was the great Zaheeeer?!

 

[s2k]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9YAG6MIXMQ

here is his 153.4 kph ball

 

[Sledger]

150k bouncer collected at waist-high!!.. forget the bowler, India have the new Gilchrist waiting in the wings.

 

[s2k]

150k bouncer collected at waist-high!!.. forget the bowler, India have the new Gilchrist waiting in the wings.

it wasnt a bouncer,it was just short of length in fact closer to good length......

Anyways you can doubt as much as you want,because you even doubt the talent and performance of Sachin Tendulkar.

 

[Sledger]

it was just short of length in fact closer to good length......

) )

Replay.

 

[Lightning]

it wasnt a bouncer,it was just short of length in fact closer to good length......

Anyways you can doubt as much as you want,because you even doubt the talent and performance of Sachin Tendulkar.

It was very short man. Pitch must be extremely flat as that was the slowest 150k bouncer I've ever seen.

 

[Dann]

if you want him to stay fast, don't tinker with his bowling style. But also accept hes gonna have a lot of injuries

look at akthar, lee, tait, bond, fidel edwards, jerome taylor. All really really fast.. but always susceptible to injuries.

I just think indian bowling coaches are coaching to increase the longevity of fast bowlers by making them medium pacers.

Fast bowlers don't live long, unless they have actions like dale steyn or Umar Gul.

Also send him to Australia and let dennis lillie work on him at the MRF, stop sending your fast bowlers to the NCA. God send them to the NCA once they are like 35 and their careers are over.

I don't get it, why the NCA lolz?? its not like any legends have come out the NCA system!

 

[s2k]

It was very short man. Pitch must be extremely flat as that was the slowest 150k bouncer I've ever seen.

Well pitch was very very very flat and slow.If you see match highlights you will see how slow the pitch was.Spinner were getting great turn as well.

 

[kingusama92]

Not sure if he will make it, but only one advice should be given to him.

"Run in and bowl as fast as you can - forget about everything else".

An Indian bowler never receives this advice from people around them and they end up becoming typical trundlers. Just start off by giving this advice and see how things go.

They can always learn the nuances as they ease into the game.

 

[Down2Earth]

his name alone confirms he can't get over 140kmh

 

[s2k]

Not sure if he will make it, but only one advice should be given to him.

"Run in and bowl as fast as you can - forget about everything else".

An Indian bowler never receives this advice from people around them and they end up becoming typical trundlers. Just start off by giving this advice and see how things go.

They can always learn the nuances as they ease into the game.

Well there has been coaches like Venky Prasad and then idiots like Greg Chappel who have ruined fast bowlers in India.Also in the MRF pace academ,they were famous for changing bowler's actions.

I hope people take good care of VArun and let him prosper.

 

[Imy]

He seems sharpish hopefully he will get quicker, height is not a must look at malcom marshall and most people considered him the best fast bolwer ever

 

[s2k]

his name alone confirms he can't get over 140kmh

care to elaborate.

 

[sh47]

action is laughable lol like why bowl like that what's wrong with him? joking lol but to be fair although india may produce excellent weightlifters etc there genetic make up is not that of a pakistani they lack the "nack" pak bowlers posses and that is natural in built agression/fire.

 

[ZenBowman]

action is laughable lol like why bowl like that what's wrong with him? joking lol but to be fair although india may produce excellent weightlifters etc there genetic make up is not that of a pakistani they lack the "nack" pak bowlers posses and that is natural in built agression/fire.

Malinga's action is even more awkward, and he is a top bowler.

 

[s2k]

action is laughable lol like why bowl like that what's wrong with him? joking lol but to be fair although india may produce excellent weightlifters etc there genetic make up is not that of a pakistani they lack the "nack" pak bowlers posses and that is natural in built agression/fire.

Genetic make up?

So Indian muslims dont have the same genetic make up?or may be Indian Punjabis,Gujratis etc dont share the same genes?You must be aware that majority of subcontinental muslims are a mixed race of arabs and indigenious Indians.

Regarding agression India has produced boxers and wrestlers who have won olympic medals.

Its all down to the cricketing culture.Why no Pakstani batsman avgs 50 outside Pakistan?Some inherent genetic problem which makes batting technique and batting temperament disappear?

 

[ZenBowman]

Genetic make up?

So Indian muslims dont have the same genetic make up?or may be Indian Punjabis,Gujratis etc dont share the same genes?You must be aware that majority of subcontinental muslims are a mixed race of arabs and indigenious Indians.

Regarding agression India has produced boxers and wrestlers who have won olympic medals.

Its all down to the cricketing culture.Why no Pakstani batsman avgs 50 outside Pakistan?Some inherent genetic problem which makes batting technique and batting temperament disappear?

This is also an issue stemming from tape-ball cricket.

 

[s2k]

This is also an issue stemming from tape-ball cricket.

Yes that is it.The cricketing culture.

 

[octavian]

get him in the team now..




so he can bowl at 125 K's and this thread can die.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Looks similar to Ben Hilfunhaus. Not sure about 150k+ but looks a decent find.

It's just a matter of time before Akram finds India a good pacer.

 

[Osman]

anyone want to place a bet on his expiry date?

 

[Strike!]

Needs to use his left arm more, It looks like he's dragging it.

 

[sh47]

Genetic make up?

So Indian muslims dont have the same genetic make up?or may be Indian Punjabis,Gujratis etc dont share the same genes?You must be aware that majority of subcontinental muslims are a mixed race of arabs and indigenious Indians.

Regarding agression India has produced boxers and wrestlers who have won olympic medals.

Its all down to the cricketing culture.Why no Pakstani batsman avgs 50 outside Pakistan?Some inherent genetic problem which makes batting technique and batting temperament disappear?

Yes, i stand by my theory, the reason as of late you began to win so many medals etc is simply because of the investment the indian goverment put into commanwealth games giving athletes better resources, facilities etc hence producing better results but at the same time you don win medals in wrestling boxing consistently, if you disagree with my comment then why is it that india is yet to produce a stand out fast bowler? indian people are genuinely more calculated cautious and patient thus there batting is full of strength however pakistani batsman are not as patient as the indians, and we have produced some fine batsman and in the current side the likes of younis khan and misbah are technically sound.

 

[octavian]

anyone want to place a bet on his expiry date?

20 international games.

 

[sh47]

Malinga's action is even more awkward, and he is a top bowler.

But malinga does not keep his non bowling arm in that position, malinga's action is to his benefit, the indian bowler should not keep his non bowling arm in that position its like his bowling with his left arm tied up, it's decreasing his maximum speed because there is more drag being produced that way

 

[SAF]

Good for India


Although I doubt he can even bowl more than 130k

 

[s2k]

Yes, i stand by my theory, the reason as of late you began to win so many medals etc is simply because of the investment the indian goverment put into commanwealth games giving athletes better resources, facilities etc hence producing better results, if you disagree with my comment then why is it that india is yet to produce a stand out fast bowler? indian people are genuinely more calculated cautious and patient thus there batting is full of strength however pakistani batsman are not as patient as the indians, and we have produced some fine batsman and in the current side the likes of younis khan and misbah are technically sound

Oh please.Indian wrestlers and boxers win medals despite of the system and not because of it.They have and still complaint about the lack of good facilities.Most of these medal winners are from small villages.

You stand by your theory and and cannot back it up with any facts while i just gave a few.

Indians dont play tape ball cricket which is responsible for producing fast bowlers in Pakistan.Nor will you find many young Indians wanting to be fast bowlers they wanted to be the next Tendulkar sehwag or Dravid or Gavaskar,Amarnath,Vengsarkar before that,(this is changing in the last 10 years or so and people are taking fast bowling up)

More cautious and calculated?Its called temperament.which doesnt come by slogging your way in tape ball cricket.

Younis Khan has a good technique,thats one in so many PAkistani batsmen.Yet no one not a single one has managed to avg above 50 outside Pakistan.

 

[s2k]

Good for India


Although I doubt he can even bowl more than 130k

did u see the video?

 

[ZenBowman]

Oh please.Indian wrestlers and boxers win medals despite of the system and not because of it.They have and still complaint about the lack of good facilities.Most of these medal winners are from small villages.

Exactly, our Olympic champion wrestlers train in facilities that are worse than most high school facilities in the US. The training and facilities are sub-par, yet they succeed.

On the other hand our cricketers have top-notch facilities, yet they fail. It is because of the prevailing mentality of line/length bowling.

Imran Khan once said, "I don't mind Wasim bowling no-balls as long as he bowls quick". If this mentality was around, we'd have quick bowlers by now.

 

[tahir_dj]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9YAG6MIXMQ

here is his 153.4 kph ball

where is Kamran khan gone? if any one can remmber so much hyped before the ipl2 in S.A than after few matches he is never seen again

 

[s2k]

where is Kamran khan gone? if any one can remmber so much hyped before the ipl2 in S.A than after few matches he is never seen again

Well after his remodelled action it seems he lost pace.He used to chuck a bit if remember.He will play for IPL pune this season.

Aaron is totally different from Kamran

Aaron has played 1st class cricket, though not muchbut it is because for one of the minnows of Indian domestic league he never got hyped.Until Ganguly picked him for KKR last year.According to Ganguly Varun was clocked bowling 90+ at KKR camps.Then he got injured,he has returned this season and has been bowling quick.

Kamran was unknown and picked from some maidan in Mumbai,playing Canvas ball cricket.

 

[tahir_dj]

Well after his remodelled action it seems he lost pace.He used to chuck a bit if remember.He will play for IPL pune this season.

Aaron is totally different from Kamran

Aaron has played 1st class cricket, though not muchbut it is because for one of the minnows of Indian domestic league he never got hyped.Until Ganguly picked him for KKR last year.According to Ganguly Varun was clocked bowling 90+ at KKR camps.Then he got injured,he has returned this season and has been bowling quick.

Kamran was unknown and picked from some maidan in Mumbai,playing Canvas ball cricket.

what ever it is i think Aroun should be imeadiatly included in the Indian squad than.. am sure they can get him because icc would'nt dare to say no... or sresanth is injured anyway... so why not eh.

 

[saqlain]

Where this debate is heading. OP is about a India bowlers who can bowl at a good pace. Not an express bowler but a good fast bowler by any standards. And people here have problems because he happens to be an Indian. For some reasons, word speed can only be associated with one country. It is like Pakistan has a copyright over the term "Fast Bowlers".

 

[TheHK16]

Exactly, our Olympic champion wrestlers train in facilities that are worse than most high school facilities in the US. The training and facilities are sub-par, yet they succeed.

On the other hand our cricketers have top-notch facilities, yet they fail. It is because of the prevailing mentality of line/length bowling.

Imran Khan once said, "I don't mind Wasim bowling no-balls as long as he bowls quick". If this mentality was around, we'd have quick bowlers by now.

my first question is why isant tape ball cricket popular in india

and secondly why cant you produce 1 fast bolwer (145+) ?

i will answer it myself you say that it has nothing to do with genes but it must come on you cant produce 1 fast bowler yet have a population of 1.2 billion and the most money in the cricketing world.

all im asking for is one fast bowler yet a population of 1.2 billion cant evan produce one fast bowler just one

it must be something to do with genes

not every indian kid wants to be a batsman im sure at least a million want to be bowlers

a million is nothing out of 1.2 billion evan new zealand can produce fast bowlers with a population of 4 million or so

 

[sh47]

Oh please.Indian wrestlers and boxers win medals despite of the system and not because of it.They have and still complaint about the lack of good facilities.Most of these medal winners are from small villages.

You stand by your theory and and cannot back it up with any facts while i just gave a few.

Indians dont play tape ball cricket which is responsible for producing fast bowlers in Pakistan.Nor will you find many young Indians wanting to be fast bowlers they wanted to be the next Tendulkar sehwag or Dravid or Gavaskar,Amarnath,Vengsarkar before that,(this is changing in the last 10 years or so and people are taking fast bowling up)

More cautious and calculated?Its called temperament.which doesnt come by slogging your way in tape ball cricket.

Younis Khan has a good technique,thats one in so many PAkistani batsmen.Yet no one not a single one has managed to avg above 50 outside Pakistan.

What facts did you give me?, your so called facts are simply useless, have no meaning

Indian athletes do not win medals consistently this is a FACT

India has not produced a stand out Fast bowler who consistently clocks 90mph for a lenthy period of time, FACT

I agree the temperament of indian batsman is excellent, as i said before indian people are more paitent , however pak people do not posses this "superior indian batsman" temperament are more aggressive rekless hence the fast bowling at express pace, you can not say we produce fast bowlers only due to tape ball cricket its a silly claim and i do not understand how you can say it is not played in india and the fact that people look up to tendulkar etc thus dont want to be fast bowlers its a very silly fantasy reason, you either have it in you or you don't, temperament is a skill which can be mastered, in regards to fast bowling at express pace you either have it or you don't just like boxing for example mike tyson had so much power and even he would say your born with it, the same goes for fast bowling, look at mohammad aamir for example a very skinny guy who can bowl so fast consistently hitting 90mph i mean how is that possible????? it goes back to what i said before your born with it and it is the genetic make up of being a pakistani you tend to have in-built fire/aggressin in you, indian bowlers do not have a similar genetic make up to pakistani's this is why i think they have not produced a genuine fast bowler.

 

[s2k]

my first question is why isant tape ball cricket popular in india

and secondly why cant you produce 1 fast bolwer (145+) ?

i will answer it myself you say that it has nothing to do with genes but it must come on you cant produce 1 fast bowler yet have a population of 1.2 billion and the most money in the cricketing world.

all im asking for is one fast bowler yet a population of 1.2 billion cant evan produce one fast bowler just one

it must be something to do with genes

not every indian kid wants to be a batsman im sure at least a million want to be bowlers

a million is nothing out of 1.2 billion evan new zealand can produce fast bowlers with a population of 4 million or so

Why hasnt China produced a cricketer,footballer of world fame?where as the produce olympians and paddlers of great repute?their population is 2 billion.

Its nothing to do with the population it all down to what is the focus of that nation's sport.

Indians focus on becoming batsmen and spinners.Because they have heroes in that department to look up to.

Tapeball cricket is not popular,dont know why.May the coaches see it as a way to ruin our batsmen.

 

[sh47]

my first question is why isant tape ball cricket popular in india

and secondly why cant you produce 1 fast bolwer (145+) ?

i will answer it myself you say that it has nothing to do with genes but it must come on you cant produce 1 fast bowler yet have a population of 1.2 billion and the most money in the cricketing world.

all im asking for is one fast bowler yet a population of 1.2 billion cant evan produce one fast bowler just one

it must be something to do with genes

not every indian kid wants to be a batsman im sure at least a million want to be bowlers

a million is nothing out of 1.2 billion evan new zealand can produce fast bowlers with a population of 4 million or so

I agree with you, the guy came out with some very fantasy type of excuses for indian bowlers not being quick

 

[TheHK16]

chines do expetionally well in the sports they like martial arts , weight lifting , gymnastics and have a population of 1.3 billion not 2 billion

 

[tahir_dj]

What facts did you give me?, your so called facts are simply useless, have no meaning

Indian athletes do not win medals consistently this is a FACT

India has not produced a stand out Fast bowler who consistently clocks 90mph for a lenthy period of time, FACT

I agree the temperament of indian batsman is excellent, as i said before indian people are more paitent , however pak people do not posses this "superior indian batsman" temperament are more aggressive rekless hence the fast bowling at express pace, you can not say we produce fast bowlers only due to tape ball cricket its a silly claim and i do not understand how you can say it is not played in india and the fact that people look up to tendulkar etc thus dont want to be fast bowlers its a very silly fantasy reason, you either have it in you or you don't, temperament is a skill which can be mastered, in regards to fast bowling at express pace you either have it or you don't just like boxing for example mike tyson had so much power and even he would say your born with it, the same goes for fast bowling, look at mohammad aamir for example a very skinny guy who can bowl so fast consistently hitting 90mph i mean how is that possible????? it goes back to what i said before your born with it and it is the genetic make up of being a pakistani you tend to have in-built fire/aggressin in you, indian bowlers do not have a similar genetic make up to pakistani's this is why i think they have not produced a genuine fast bowler.

yes he was bowling 150kph in NZ

and in England they dropped the pace for some reason there him and Asif were countinusly bowling around 80-83mph to get the swing right.

 

[TheHK16]

im sure most chinese people havant evan heard of cricket

 

[sh47]

Why hasnt China produced a cricketer,footballer of world fame?where as the produce olympians and paddlers of great repute?their population is 2 billion.

Its nothing to do with the population it all down to what is the focus of that nation's sport.

Indians focus on becoming batsmen and spinners.Because they have heroes in that department to look up to.

Tapeball cricket is not popular,dont know why.May the coaches see it as a way to ruin our batsmen.

Focuss???? well don't india focus on Cricket, your telling me they don't want a fast bowler now? now that is the reason for them not having a fast bowler, very very intresting, now in your opinion tape ball cricket is supposed to make you a quick bowler so indian coaches will be like sincee we don not want a fast bowler we dont see the point... more fantasy reasons from you

 

[TheHK16]

I agree with you, the guy came out with some very fantasy type of excuses for indian bowlers not being quick

whats your reason for india not producing one genuine fast bowler

 

[tahir_dj]

Why hasnt China produced a cricketer,footballer of world fame?where as the produce olympians and paddlers of great repute?their population is 2 billion.

Its nothing to do with the population it all down to what is the focus of that nation's sport.

Indians focus on becoming batsmen and spinners.Because they have heroes in that department to look up to.

Tapeball cricket is not popular,dont know why.May the coaches see it as a way to ruin our batsmen.

the reason we mostly play tape ball cricket is simply because its always local matces plus easy to play without hurting your self and dont have to carry kits around all the time...


and as a batsman we love hitting it out...:kami:iamlegend

 

[s2k]

What facts did you give me?, your so called facts are simply useless, have no meaning

Indian athletes do not win medals consistently this is a FACT

India has not produced a stand out Fast bowler who consistently clocks 90mph for a lenthy period of time, FACT

I agree the temperament of indian batsman is excellent, as i said before indian people are more paitent , however pak people do not posses this "superior indian batsman" temperament are more aggressive rekless hence the fast bowling at express pace, you can not say we produce fast bowlers only due to tape ball cricket its a silly claim and i do not understand how you can say it is not played in india and the fact that people look up to tendulkar etc thus dont want to be fast bowlers its a very silly fantasy reason, you either have it in you or you don't, temperament is a skill which can be mastered, in regards to fast bowling at express pace you either have it or you don't just like boxing for example mike tyson had so much power and even he would say your born with it, the same goes for fast bowling, look at mohammad aamir for example a very skinny guy who can bowl so fast consistently hitting 90mph i mean how is that possible????? it goes back to what i said before your born with it and it is the genetic make up of being a pakistani you tend to have in-built fire/aggressin in you, indian bowlers do not have a similar genetic make up to pakistani's this is why i think they have not produced a genuine fast bowler.

So whatever anyone else says is useless.....

Indians win medals more consistently than Pakistan.Be it Wrestling,weightlifting,boxing,tennis etc.All games requiring physical prowess.FACT.

Producing great batsman,great spinners,FAst bowlers are all part of tradition.

Why has SA never produced a good spinner?Why ENgland dont have good spinners or cant play good spin?Why have AUS only produced 1 or 2 good spinners in its entire history?Why does WI has only 1 spinner of note in its history?

Its all down to their cricketing culture of producing fast bowlers.

India has its history of producing spinners and batsmen.

How can a nation who were so concentrated at spinners played 3-4 spinners in their line up and only part time pacers were used to take out the shine of the ball.Only Kapil Dev,after he came,that a regular fast bowling opening pair was established.

Again thats how the cricketing culture of India was/is.

 

[TheHK16]

spining the ball dosant require much power, neither does holding a bat

 

[s2k]

chines do expetionally well in the sports they like martial arts , weight lifting , gymnastics and have a population of 1.3 billion not 2 billion

There you go,they like some sport and they excel in it.

Ask any kid playing cricket in India he wants to be a batsman very few speak of trying to be a fast bowler.Its just not part of our cricketing culture.People have grown watching great batsman and spinners they want to be like them.

 

[sh47]

whats your reason for india not producing one genuine fast bowler

Genetics

 

[s2k]

spining the ball dosant require much power, neither does holding a bat

i guess weighlifting,boxing,wrestling needs power.And India is better at those than Pakistan.

 

[s2k]

I agree with you, the guy came out with some very fantasy type of excuses for indian bowlers not being quick

And you had some darwinian theory of Indians and Pakistanis not sharing the same gene pool.Which text book taught you that?

 

[cornered-tigers]

Guys, fast bowling is not an Indian thing, as batting is not a Pakistani thing, lets stick to our strengths. I like cricket because of fast bowlers, and there is a dearth of them these days, hence cricket has lost its shine. No matter whether you are tendulkar or anyone, if there are genuine quicks around like bac in 70s and 80s, they will tire and bruise you up so bad that you would ask yourself, why on earth you chose this game!

 

[TheHK16]

we have a boxing world champion and this guy

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AdsXE5halWg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

does india have a stronger man than this guy

 

[ZenBowman]

Genetics

LOL, the genetics of Indians and Pakistanis are extremely similar. Punjabi Indians are more genetically alike to Punjabi Pakistanis than Gujaratis.

 

[sh47]

So whatever anyone else says is useless.....

Indians win medals more consistently than Pakistan.Be it Wrestling,weightlifting,boxing,tennis etc.All games requiring physical prowess.FACT.

Producing great batsman,great spinners,FAst bowlers are all part of tradition.

Why has SA never produced a good spinner?Why ENgland dont have good spinners or cant play good spin?Why have AUS only produced 1 or 2 good spinners in its entire history?Why does WI has only 1 spinner of note in its history?

Its all down to their cricketing culture of producing fast bowlers.

India has its history of producing spinners and batsmen.

How can a nation who were so concentrated at spinners played 3-4 spinners in their line up and only part time pacers were used to take out the shine of the ball.Only Kapil Dev,after he came,that a regular fast bowling opening pair was established.

Again thats how the cricketing culture of India was/is.

I didn't say pakistan produce medals more consistently then india... you seem to think i am trying to say pak is better then indiaa at everything blaa blaa blaa... i am not lol i just feel genuinely that india doesnt produce fast bowlers like pak because of there genetics.... i don't think its just your cricketing culture

And England,SA,Aus all have produced some very good spinners

 

[s2k]

Genetics

which textbook says Indians and Pakistanis have different genes?

 

[sh47]

LOL, the genetics of Indians and Pakistanis are extremely similar. Punjabi Indians are more genetically alike to Punjabi Pakistanis than Gujaratis.

Is that so? why is it that pak produce more fast bowlers then india then your saying its absolutely nothing to do with genetics, in that case everyone on the planet have the same strength lol

 

[sh47]

which textbook says Indians and Pakistanis have different genes?

Study, UNDERSTAND, and research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics

 

[s2k]

I didn't say pakistan produce medals more consistently then india... you seem to think i am trying to say pak is better then indiaa at everything blaa blaa blaa... i am not lol i just feel genuinely that india doesnt produce fast bowlers like pak because of there genetics.... i don't think its just your cricketing culture

And England,SA,Aus all have produced some very good spinners

Your very idea of different genetics is flawed.Indians and Pakistanis share the same genetic pool.

You are trying to say that genetically PAkistanis are stronger or something that way and hence produce more fast bowlers as fast bowling requires lots of physical prowess.I have just shown you that Indians produce better wrestlers boxers weighlifters which requires equal physical prowess if not more.

 

[nsaviguru]

For the sake of this guy I hope the media doesn't get a hold of him. Lets let him develop first, hopefully the coaches will leave his action alone, and we should see him in the International level in a couple of years.

 

[Systematicx0x]

Am I the only one who thinks any bowl he registered over 145k, did not look nowhere near as fast? I am not trying to put the guy down...as others have said, he does look a bit nippy, but that could just be this match, with the breeze behind him etc.

I would say he is probably around Umar Gul's speed....between 136-142k with an odd ball getting close to 145k. I am sorry to break to to you guys but the ball he supposedly bowled at 153k looks more like a malfunction of a dodgy speed gun, then anything else. There have been plenty of such cases in India, and Australia too. Nonetheless, if he can control his line, he'd still be better then a Nehra or teeli sharma or Sreesanth or Praveen and about 95% of all the medium pacers India has.

If you guys really want to see him develop, send him to play pakistani domestic cricket somehow, and have him change his diet and eat like a Pakistani. Diet has A LOT to do with building speeds, and sustaining it. Indian fans keep arguing that can't be it because there are so many muslims living in india too.

ALL INDIAN FANS READ THIS: Your food and eating habbits are the biggest problem. I have a lot of family which is from india.....and even Indian men don't eat meat that much, and their portions are smaller. Even if they eat chicken and goat/lamb, they aren't big fans of Beef. That's where your problem lies. Red meat, Beef in particular, gives you aggression and is loaded with high proteins and good fat. With a proper workout habbit, this can do wonders to your strength and overall mindset. You guys use way more "Masalas" in your foods then any region or cultural food of Pakistan, which is also counter productive to making you stronger. You don't consume milk and milk products as much as Pakistanis, which are also very important to make your bones stronger. Cow's milk in it's purest form does wonders to bone growth and strength!

The type of food you will almost always and mostly see on an average Indian food spread, regardless of them being hindu, muslim or christian.....is Daal and Sabzi most days of the week. Where as in Pakistan, an average food spread, most of the week...consists of at least one item with meat in it. We even put beef in Daal and Sabzi we eat, which my Indian family members and friends I've known from India always found surprising. You have to think about this, and admit it, in order to improve.

I am actually going to start a new thread, and stress on this topic a bit more and maybe some of you indian fans will finally get it. I'll use perhaps the best example, a proven example of what I am saying is true. Here's the link to the thread I am starting:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?p=3523557#post3523557

 

[md_tariq]

Guys, fast bowling is not an Indian thing, as batting is not a Pakistani thing, lets stick to our strengths. I like cricket because of fast bowlers, and there is a dearth of them these days, hence cricket has lost its shine. No matter whether you are tendulkar or anyone, if there are genuine quicks around like bac in 70s and 80s, they will tire and bruise you up so bad that you would ask yourself, why on earth you chose this game!

once we have helmets and other protective gear, its bowlers who would ask that question to themselves after bowling on flat pitches.

 

[s2k]

Is that so? why is it that pak produce more fast bowlers then india then your saying its absolutely nothing to do with genetics, in that case everyone on the planet have the same strength lol

Yes it has nothing to do with genetics.

Indians and PAkistanis share the same gene pool.You have been mis led to understand that Pakistanis have some superior gene which is why they produce better fast bowlers.

And why should everyone on the planet have same strength?

Suncontinental people have a different gene pool compared to chinese or lankan or other south east asian people.Africans have different gene pool.europeans and americans different and South americans different.Add to that the built etc.

Where did you learn your genetics?Please give a valid link which says Indians and PAkistanis have different gene pools.

 

[kamz]

I dont think that pakistan has any superior genetic pool, but given that the cricketing culture is of fast bowlers, young children start following their idols and eventually more faster bowlers int he future are produced.

In terms of having a different genetic pool, can be factually correct on the basis that Sindh had a lot of arab migration through the Mohammed Bin Qasim invasion and the settling of muslim people across from the mughal dynasty. However, having said that majority of the pakistanis have not been from the arab genes such as punjabis or the sindhis such as lohanas.

In terms of Pathans their genetic pool links into Uzbekistan, Tajisktan, Kazakhstan some even say to the lost tribes of israel. Whereas balochis are definitely from an arab gene which can be verified through the companion of the prophet who was from a tribe called albalushi which are indeed balochis.

When you compare to India, the only shared genetic pool can be from the north of India or Rajasthan or Gujurat in Pakistan.

Now in regards to the brilliant kid Varun, I think he is a genuine quickie who would do well on foreign pitches as well, in terms of his action, I sincelry feels he needs to drop his left arm to his left abdomenand use it when delivering the ball i.e take it right up way behind his right ear from the abdomen and drop it behind his back after the delivery.

A trademark of all fast bowlers such as ambrose, walsh, fred truman, andy roberts, michael holding, wasim, waqar, shoaib, sami, Mcgrath, Lee and Aamer as well as Rana. This helps also in getting more inswing or with the old ball a reverse swing.

 

[Random Aussie]

Hmmm a few sour feeling comments in this thread. One day India will produce a proper fast bowler you know.....

Haven't seen the video but good luck to him and I hope he can bowl quick.

 

[Masterji]

I like what i see but can the body stand up to the rigours of fast bowling-i don`t think so.

 

[GOAT]

Some strange things being said in this thread. I'm no scientist but I'm fairly certain that we all share the same genes.

On the matter of nutrition, it isn't as big a deal as you'd think it to be. You can get protein from a variety of sources so its not a big deal. I'm pretty sure most Indians drink milk, they can get their protein their or supplements. If not, theres always soy milk. Beef isn't even the best source of protein, chicken and fish are much more lean. Red meat once in a while is okay, but you won't ever catch a bodybuilder downing that **** every day.

At the end of the day most Indian bowlers are just lazy. They have nothing to aspire to and if they do choose an international bowler, they either don't know how to or won't pack on the muscle. Most Indian bowlers I've seen are tooth picks. This isn't that hard to correct in this day and age, you can get your protein in a number of ways and hitting up the gym shouldn't be hard if you're a professional athlete. The issue is most definitely a mental one.

 

[in_cutter]

Lol this thread is wierd...why are ppl dwelling deep into the scientific side.

Anyway. Seen the video. He does look nippy, although his left arm seems dead during his runup...otherwise he has a nice action.

Only with time will we see how he progresses. He is a young kid, so good luck to him.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Sorry, but Indian and pacer doesn't sound good in close proximity.

 

[AfghanCricketFan]

this thread got like 160 responses.
lets see what he can do in international level.

 

[shahrukh619]

Where is Atul Sharma??

 

[GOAT]

Where is Atul Sharma??

You're not the only one to wonder..

nvm. Just google it for lulz

 

[rkt.india]

if you want him to stay fast, don't tinker with his bowling style. But also accept hes gonna have a lot of injuries

look at akthar, lee, tait, bond, fidel edwards, jerome taylor. All really really fast.. but always susceptible to injuries.

I just think indian bowling coaches are coaching to increase the longevity of fast bowlers by making them medium pacers.

Fast bowlers don't live long, unless they have actions like dale steyn or Umar Gul.

Also send him to Australia and let dennis lillie work on him at the MRF, stop sending your fast bowlers to the NCA. God send them to the NCA once they are like 35 and their careers are over.

I don't get it, why the NCA lolz?? its not like any legends have come out the NCA system!

He is an MRF product..training there for the last 4-5 years

 

[rkt.india]

150k bouncer collected at waist-high!!.. forget the bowler, India have the new Gilchrist waiting in the wings.

Look at where the keeper is standing 20-25 yards from the stumps...and pitch is too slow..look at one delivery 143 ks how that took off

 

[Kriketer]

Looks like a good prospect. Seems to have speed. Need to work on his run-up (bigger steps) and posture while running, and the last thing he should worry about now is line and length. Go for speed and only speed.

And majority of Pakistani posters, why do you have to mock/ridicule every Indian bowling prospect? We can be nice to our padosi friends sometimes. We know they are desperate for a deadly pacer

 

[kingusama92]

I like what i see but can the body stand up to the rigours of fast bowling-i don`t think so.

Now you are sounding like a typical Indian bowling coach.

This is how they warn Indian pacers. Probably similar words as well.

Don't scare the bowler and turn him into a pie throwing bowler. Injuries happen even if the bowler is a trundler. At least let this guy come in and just let if fly. Sweet and simple.

 

[S_K]

Where is Atul Sharma??

Still chopping wood and flipping tires i guess.

 

[ZenBowman]

Now you are sounding like a typical Indian bowling coach.

This is how they warn Indian pacers. Probably similar words as well.

Don't scare the bowler and turn him into a pie throwing bowler. Injuries happen even if the bowler is a trundler. At least let this guy come in and just let if fly. Sweet and simple.

Agree - part of fast bowling is the risk of injury. Every fast bowler, from Imran to Wasim to Brett Lee has suffered some sort of injury at some point. If you don't want to get injured, become a spinner.