[VIDEO] BJP leader threatens to ‘slaughter 200,000 Muslims’ over cow incident

[Rafale Nidhal]

May be next time post the entire incident and not half to suit your agenda.

I will have the other half of beef burger tonight

 

[Rajdeep]

^ That is not the answer to my question. Police must take action on anyone who breaks the law...thanks for that invaluable information. Everyone is aware of that.

The point being Muslim's instigate and test patience of other communities, as in this example and then act victims. That is why when everyone hates you, the problem is with you and not others.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

O I wasn't aware, really?? What a hypocrisy then

The people who included articles of cow protection in the Indian constitution knew that it is not a core part of Hinduism and that's why there are exemptions within India.

IF this was a core component of Hinduism it would have been banned across India without exemptions or exceptions.



In the Hindu scriptures, there are dozens upon dozens of examples of meat consumption upon feasts so abstinence meat consumption is not a core part of Hinduism.

If you take away the "meat consumption" part then animal sacrifice has been inherent part of Hinduism for centuries. In Nepal (until very recently) thousands of animals were ritually sacrificed for Hindu goddess Gadhimai

Hindu sacrifice of 250,000 animals begins​

Cheers and protests as thousands of buffalo are decapitated at start of festival in Nepal honouring Hindu goddess Gadhimai

The answer to the sacrifice to honor Gadhimai from "Hindutva" is that we don't do it anymore OR it has been scaled back etc but the fact remains that this was part of Hindu rituals for a long time so you can't erase it from history.


In every society there are laws to stop communal practices. In the west, there are white supremacists who throw pig heads at the Mosque, the police charges them and they are taken to account.

In India, the mob takes reports from WhatsApp university and starts a lynching campaign across India.

How many times do I have to repeat?!! In states where cow slaughter is illegal anyone who slaughters a cow is doing something illegal and should be arrested and punished (not lynched), nothing to do with Hinduism! Even if a Hindu does it he is breaking the law.

If your police is unable to enforce the law then blame the law and order in your country.

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[The Bald Eagle]

Just look at this specific story, for example. A muslim group reportedly slaughtered a cow and threw its head near a temple to instigate communal tension. However, the thread portrayed the incident as if a BJP leader randomly decided to threaten innocent Muslims without any provocation.

This is exactly what I’m trying to highlight. Whether it is all okay and good to blame others like BJP/Hindutvas hates muslims, jews invades our lands, western Christians bombs our lands etc etc....we rarely pause to reflect on why such tensions frequently involve the Muslim community. Unfortunately, this aspect often goes undiscussed.

The same police said, a DOG may have carried it and left it there. Don't make it as big a issue as lives of 200 K individuals

 

[uppercut]

Is it a specific cow or all cows?

All breeds or just one specific type..

And do they only reside in ind or worldwide…

Obviously the holy texts do not have any mention about whether this applies to all breeds but generally speaking most Hindus treat all cows with reverence.

 

[uppercut]

The same police said, a DOG may have carried it and left it there. Don't make it as big a issue as lives of 200 K individuals

You have absolutely ZERO idea about this topic ... as you have never lived in India. Muslims deliberately killing cows is a reality in India. Thats why the brutal response from Hindu vigilante groups. Nobody resorts to taking such extreme steps unless the situation is dire.

I mean Just look at the disgraceful responses on this topic in numerous threads from educated Muslims right here On PP deliberately mocking despite me and others explaining why this is not right. If this Is how educated people act just imagine how the village idiots In India would be doing.

Would you be ok If I started ridiculing Islamic beliefs? Trust me there is no shortage of topics to indulge in

 

[KingKhanWC]

You have absolutely ZERO idea about this topic ... as you have never lived in India.libe
r Muslims deately killing cows is a reality in India. Thats why the brutal response from Hindu vigilante groups. Nobody resorts to taking such extreme steps unless the situation is dire.



I mean Just look at the disgraceful responses on this topic in numerous threads from educated Muslims right here On PP deliberately mocking despite me and others explaining why this is not right. If this Is how educated people act just imagine how the village idiots In India would be doing.

Would you be ok If I started ridiculing Islamic beliefs? Trust me there is no shortage of topics to indulge in

Muslims aren't going to accidently kill cows in order to eat them? What type of killing do you want Muslims to do if they want to eat a steak?

 

[uppercut]

Muslims aren't going to accidently kill cows in order to eat them? What type of killing do you want Muslims to do if they want to eat a steak?

Not allowed in India.

What part of that sentence do you not understand ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not allowed in India.

What part of that sentence do you not understand ?

India is the largest beef exporter. How do Hindus kill the bovines, accidently?

 

[uppercut]

India is the largest beef exporter. How do Hindus kill the bovines, accidently?

Thats buffalo meat ... explained numerous times in multiple threads by me and other Indian posters.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Thats buffalo meat ... explained numerous times in multiple threads by me and other Indian posters.

I never wrote cows. So its ok to kill a buffalo, in the millions to export but cant touch a cow? Makes no sense at all, absurd logic. Besides numerous states in India still allow one to kill a cow for a steak.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You have absolutely ZERO idea about this topic ... as you have never lived in India. Muslims deliberately killing cows is a reality in India. Thats why the brutal response from Hindu vigilante groups. Nobody resorts to taking such extreme steps unless the situation is dire.

I mean Just look at the disgraceful responses on this topic in numerous threads from educated Muslims right here On PP deliberately mocking despite me and others explaining why this is not right. If this Is how educated people act just imagine how the village idiots In India would be doing.

Would you be ok If I started ridiculing Islamic beliefs? Trust me there is no shortage of topics to indulge in

Just a simple question are cows only Holy for Hindus inside India??

 

[Rajdeep]

Just a simple question are cows only Holy for Hindus inside India??

Are muslims permitted to ear pork and consume alcohol outside Pakistan?

 

[uppercut]

I never wrote cows. So its ok to kill a buffalo, in the millions to export but cant touch a cow? Makes no sense at all, absurd logic.

Yes ... like most religious beliefs you cannot try to look at it from a logical perspective.

Besides numerous states in India still allow one to kill a cow for a steak.

This is a issue of enforcement ... the central govt does not do a good job in forcing the state govts in implementing the cow protection articles that are part of the Indian constitution. But vast majority of the states do so and the incident mentioned in the OP happened in a state where it is illegal and btw this is widespread. Which is why the hindu vigilante groups take matters into their own hands.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes ... like most religious beliefs you cannot try to look at it from a logical perspective.



This is a issue of enforcement ... the central govt does not do a good job in forcing the state govts in implementing the cow protection articles that are part of the Indian constitution. But vast majority of the states do so and the incident mentioned in the OP happened in a state where it is illegal and btw this is widespread. Which is why the hindu vigilante groups take matters into their own hands.

Its religious hypocrisy, hence why the world doesnt take India seriously when they see a cow as holy because you're butchering their nearest relatives like no other land.

Please post the consitution law you are referring too?

You seem to be agreeing with taking up violence if a law is broken? I wonder if these same holy men upholding God also go looking for those who rape abuse females?

 

[sweep_shot]

If Uppercut is so passionate about cows, why does he live in USA which is the land of beef/steak?


Anyway, keep calm and have a steak.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

^ That is not the answer to my question. Police must take action on anyone who breaks the law...thanks for that invaluable information. Everyone is aware of that.

The point being Muslim's instigate and test patience of other communities, as in this example and then act victims. That is why when everyone hates you, the problem is with you and not others.

You didn't provide any proof that they instigated this example, and when I asked what would be their purpose for doing such a thing, you went quiet.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Are muslims permitted to ear pork and consume alcohol outside Pakistan?

Simple answer no,

 

[Rajdeep]

You didn't provide any proof that they instigated this example, and when I asked what would be their purpose for doing such a thing, you went quiet.

You tell me what is the purpose. You are Muslim, not me. Not sure why are you asking me, LOL.

I am peaceful Hindu.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Yes ... like most religious beliefs you cannot try to look at it from a logical perspective.



This is a issue of enforcement ... the central govt does not do a good job in forcing the state govts in implementing the cow protection articles that are part of the Indian constitution. But vast majority of the states do so and the incident mentioned in the OP happened in a state where it is illegal and btw this is widespread. Which is why the hindu vigilante groups take matters into their own hands.

So you have no issues, if Muslims in India (hypothetically speaking) chop off some Hindu guy most probably BJP affiliate with blasphemy charge? Right?

 

[Suleiman]

This is a disagreement between two religious groups, and it’s clearly not something trivial to either as it’s important to both. For Hindus as a religious symbol and for Muslims (and Christians, Sikh, and others) as a major food source.

It’s not like this is some obscure animal with zero utility in terms of food or labor or whatever else being targeted.

However what the guy in the headline said is definitely extreme and he’s just sensationalizing and inviting trouble.

If what happened is true that somebody threw a cow head at a temple then that is disrespectful, but his comment is insane… if it came from another religious group we’d be seeing scores of posts asking to condemn it… yet the same people who would be asking for condemnation then are now defending his right to say it’s ok to just off 200k people… Incredible.

I have no issue condemning the action if it really did happen regarding the cow head, but if you think what he’s saying is justified then I don’t want to hear anything about Islamist this and Islamist that either in other threads.

 

[Rajdeep]

Simple answer no,

Same way, Hindus are discouraged to eat beef. Note the word being discouraged and not prohibited. Considering our religion is flexible, it doesn't force anything into anyone. However, many Hindus voluntarily consume beef and that is a non-issue. I live in Britain where beef and pork are main dishes but have never touched either of them. However, I am drunk on most weekends. So its about personal choice.

 

[uppercut]

Just a simple question are cows only Holy for Hindus inside India??

Absolutely not.

 

[uppercut]

So you have no issues, if Muslims in India (hypothetically speaking) chop off some Hindu guy most probably BJP affiliate with blasphemy charge? Right?

Except the comparison is invalid because unlike Muslims Hindus do not have a track record of deliberately indulging in religious intolerance say by burning Quran or drawing the prophet or setting up pork and alcohol shops around mosques.

 

[IMMY69]

Simple answer no,

You should have asked him whether there are pig vigilantes in Muslim countries

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You should have asked him whether there are pig vigilantes in Muslim countries

@Rajdeep @uppercut add alcohol vigilantes too

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Except the comparison is invalid because unlike Muslims Hindus do not have a track record of deliberately indulging in religious intolerance say by burning Quran or drawing the prophet or setting up pork and alcohol shops around mosques.

Unfortunately, there are still idiots like nurpur Sharma and many more there

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Same way, Hindus are discouraged to eat beef. Note the word being discouraged and not prohibited. Considering our religion is flexible, it doesn't force anything into anyone. However, many Hindus voluntarily consume beef and that is a non-issue. I live in Britain where beef and pork are main dishes but have never touched either of them. However, I am drunk on most weekends. So its about personal choice.

Ok thanks for clarification...so no force allowed against others? I get it right pal...?

 

[Rajdeep]

You should have asked him whether there are pig vigilantes in Muslim countries

Embarrassing question. Most Muslim countries are autocratic where minorities gets zero to no rights. Try eating pork openly or consume alcohol in Saudi Arabia, you will either be beheaded or deported immediately. Take a look at Pakistan and Bangladesh for example. What was the minority population during independence compared to what it is now. Forget that, look at Kashmir what happened with Kashmiri pandits. Why is there even a need to pig vigilantes in first place? Do you know pork isn't even available in Saudi markets and they don't have Pigs in there country?

Comparing Muslim countries to a democracy like India is laughable. If India becomes a Hindu Rastra tomorrow where muslims will get zero rights, then your comparison is valid.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You tell me what is the purpose. You are Muslim, not me. Not sure why are you asking me, LOL.

I am peaceful Hindu.

Because you are the one who insists that Muslims are the ones instigating community clashes in a country where they are a minority. It makes no sense to me as a Muslim, but then I don't believe they are doing this...this is your theory. I am sure you probably believe that Muslims provoked the Babri Mosque demolition as well.

 

[Rajdeep]

Because you are the one who insists that Muslims are the ones instigating community clashes in a country where they are a minority. It makes no sense to me as a Muslim, but then I don't believe they are doing this...this is your theory. I am sure you probably believe that Muslims provoked the Babri Mosque demolition as well.

Babri Mosque was build on top of what? That mosque could have been build in any other place. What was the reason for building on top of another religious site? Dnt blame if it had been taken down...should have done it sooner.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Absolutely not.

Then why you lot tolerate their butchering around the world and feel no shame to hang with those guys who consume them...why these double standards

While in India only a suspicion is enough to end an innocent life

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Babri Mosque was build on top of what? That mosque could have been build in any other place. What was the reason for building on top of another religious site? Dnt blame if it had been taken down...should have done it sooner.

At least now we are getting to the nitty gritty of who actually holds the grievances to cause religious community clashes. And it's not the Muslims.

 

[IMMY69]

Embarrassing question. Most Muslim countries are autocratic where minorities gets zero to no rights. Try eating pork openly or consume alcohol in Saudi Arabia, you will either be beheaded or deported immediately. Take a look at Pakistan and Bangladesh for example. What was the minority population during independence compared to what it is now. Forget that, look at Kashmir what happened with Kashmiri pandits. Why is there even a need to pig vigilantes in first place? Do you know pork isn't even available in Saudi markets and they don't have Pigs in there country?

Comparing Muslim countries to a democracy like India is laughable. If India becomes a Hindu Rastra tomorrow where muslims will get zero rights, then your comparison is valid.

"Most Muslim countries are autocratic where minorities gets zero to no rights..."

Google it... It's pretty much available in all the muslim countries (as is alcohol).
Only Saudi is strict but even they overlook it in expat gated communities.
As to someone getting beheaded for consuming pork in public in Saudi Arabia, when has this ever happened?

In Pakistan, hotels serve pork and pork is allowed in christian communities.

So tell us, where are these Pork (or Alcohol) vigilantes?

 

[uppercut]

Then why you lot tolerate their butchering around the world and feel no shame to hang with those guys who consume them...why these double standards

Same reason as why Muslims go and live in openly pro-Israel countries and pay taxes there which are used to fund and arm Israel with deadly weapons that are used against Muslims.

Now can you give me a straight answer as to why Muslims deliberately kill cows In India ( and btw they have been doing that for centuries ).

While in India only a suspicion is enough to end an innocent life

This is not entirely true ... these incidents are still rare despite general Muslim bigotry and intolerance.

 

[uppercut]

At least now we are getting to the nitty gritty of who actually holds the grievances to cause religious community clashes. And it's not the Muslims.

What do you mean "Not the Muslims" ? Who do you think demolished the original Ram mandir and built a mosque right on top of it

 

[Rajdeep]

What do you mean "Not the Muslims" ? Who do you think demolished the original Ram mandir and built a mosque right on top of it

He pretends to be nasamajh and innocent. However, cant fool veterans like us

 

[uppercut]

"Most Muslim countries are autocratic where minorities gets zero to no rights..."

Google it... It's pretty much available in all the muslim countries (as is alcohol).
Only Saudi is strict but even they overlook it in expat gated communities.
As to someone getting beheaded for consuming pork in public in Saudi Arabia, when has this ever happened?

In Pakistan, hotels serve pork and pork is allowed in christian communities.

So tell us, where are these Pork (or Alcohol) vigilantes?

Comparing cows in Hinduism to pork/alcohol in Islam is not a valid comparison because unlike the cow ... pork and alcohol are not sacred at all in your religion.

So the only remotely valid comparison would be Quran burning or drawing the prophet but even that would not be remotely close because Hindus do Not have a track record of deliberately indulging In such despicable acts unlike muslims who are far more intolerance towards Hindu beliefs even in a Hindu majority country like India.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What do you mean "Not the Muslims" ? Who do you think demolished the original Ram mandir and built a mosque right on top of it

So are you saying that the Mughals rose from their graves and demolished some temple in the 20th century? That would be instigating communal riots in modern times I guess. This sounds more like Game of Thrones than modern reality.

 

[uppercut]

So are you saying that the Mughals rose from their graves and demolished some temple in the 20th century? That would be instigating communal riots in modern times I guess. This sounds more like Game of Thrones than modern reality.

The question is about who demolished the original Ram temple ... what is the answer to that question ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Same reason as why Muslims go and live in openly pro-Israel countries and pay taxes there which are used to fund and arm Israel with deadly weapons that are used against Muslims.

Now can you give me a straight answer as to why Muslims deliberately kill cows In India ( and btw they have been doing that for centuries ).
.

Did they not denounce the pro Israel policies while living there, do Hindus do that against cow butchers abroad?

And on second issue, if that is so common then give us statistics

 

[uppercut]

Did they not denounce the pro Israel policies while living there, do Hindus do that against cow butchers abroad?

yes there are Hindu groups that do that. ISKCON does that.

And on second issue, if that is so common then give us statistics

The govt does not track these stats. As I said the enforcement is very weak.

But lets address the root cause : Why are Muslims in India still indulging in such despicable acts ? How do you explain educated posters right here on this and many other threads other being deliberately making disgraceful comments ?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

yes there are Hindu groups that do that. ISKCON does that.



The govt does not track these stats. As I said the enforcement is very weak.

But lets address the root cause : Why are Muslims in India still indulging in such despicable acts ? How do you explain educated posters right here on this and many other threads other being deliberately making disgraceful comments ?

@uppercut be like: The government doesn't track these stats, but don't worry, I have magically got them all, and surprise, I am blaming Muslims in India for these vile acts.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The question is about who demolished the original Ram temple ... what is the answer to that question ?

No that is your question. It was @Rajdeep who contended that Muslims were responsible for religious clashes worldwide including India.

I asked why they Muslims would instigate communal riots when they are the minority and he said he didn't know because he is not a Muslim.

Then you butted in with something about Mughals being responsible because they built a masjid on top of a Hindu temple 200+ years ago.

 

[uppercut]

No that is your question.

Nope!!! It was originally asked by @Rajdeep in Post# 591 ... here it is again ( Pay attention to the Red part and try answering it again )

Babri Mosque was build on top of what? That mosque could have been build in any other place. What was the reason for building on top of another religious site? Dnt blame if it had been taken down...should have done it sooner.

It was @Rajdeep who contended that Muslims were responsible for religious clashes worldwide including India.

I asked why they Muslims would instigate communal riots when they are the minority and he said he didn't know because he is not a Muslim.

Because there are numerous pockets in India with heavy Muslim population. Life there is a living hell for Non-Muslims. We have had this discussion before !! Just a few months ago there was a full scale riot in Sambhal, UP where even the cops were attacked. There was no Hindu mob there to riot against !! So the answer to your question is: Rogue nutcases who are muscle and violence bound do not think like you and there are millions of them in India.

Then you butted in with something about Mughals being responsible because they built a masjid on top of a Hindu temple 200+ years ago.

No such thing as "Butting in" on a anonymous forum. If you prefer a invitiation-only type of discussion go find another place to do that.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The govt does not track these stats. As I said the enforcement is very weak.

But lets address the root cause : Why are Muslims in India still indulging in such despicable acts ? How do you explain educated posters right here on this and many other threads other being deliberately making disgraceful comments ?

This is the main point. Go fool someone else. No govt in the world ignore collate or documentation of the stats pertaining to the most disturbing crimes in their society. Like US govt would be idiot to ignore mass shooting stats, Pak can't ignore polio stats while India can't ignore rape stats.

Same way if this issue had really been rampant in India then govt would have stats on it. Instead one can reproduce numerous links pertaining to suspicious and wrong cow vigilantism cases.

The bottom line is you lot went to terrorise Muslims in India to submission and this cow vigilantism is just one of those many tactics. It's a brute fact

 

[uppercut]

This is the main point. Go fool someone else. No govt in the world ignore collate or documentation of the stats pertaining to the most disturbing crimes in their society. Like US govt would be idiot to ignore mass shooting stats, Pak can't ignore polio stats while India can't ignore rape stats.

Same way if this issue had really been rampant in India then govt would have stats on it. Instead one can reproduce numerous links pertaining to suspicious and wrong cow vigilantism cases.

The bottom line is you lot went to terrorise Muslims in India to submission and this cow vigilantism is just one of those many tactics. It's a brute fact

Do you really think that Indian Police are soo efficient and most importantly have the resources to track Cows in a massive country like India ??? The fact that you think that its a legit ask is actually not surprising at all.

So if you want to have a meaningful discussion then please clarify if you acknowledge that Muslims in India realize that cows are sacred to Hindus ( or not ). Can you just confirm that ? ( and I am not asking for any evidence to back that up ... I just need to understand your views on that )

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Do you really think that Indian Police are soo efficient and most importantly have the resources to track Cows in a massive country like India ??? The fact that you think that its a legit ask is actually not surprising at all.

So if you want to have a meaningful discussion then please clarify if you acknowledge that Muslims in India realize that cows are sacred to Hindus ( or not ). Can you just confirm that ? ( and I am not asking for any evidence to back that up ... I just need to understand your views on that )

No why not, can't they document or collate all incidents in a year??? Again very fishy.

And yes, Muslims do act with restraint in respect of law or else you could have atleast quote a single incident in recent times in India where Muslims were openly butchering cows or selling it or doing it's BBQ. By the way, in recently concluded Eid how many Muslims got to slaughter cow??

 

[HalBass9]

No why not, can't they document or collate all incidents in a year??? Again very fishy.

And yes, Muslims do act with restraint in respect of law or else you could have atleast quote a single incident in recent times in India where Muslims were openly butchering cows or selling it or doing it's BBQ. By the way, in recently concluded Eid how many Muslims got to slaughter cow??

In USA, where he reside, a lot of them.

 

[uppercut]

No why not, can't they document or collate all incidents in a year??? Again very fishy.

Do you understand the scale involved ? I mean the Indian police are soo bogged down by workload that you expect them to have time and resources to deal with violence against Cows ... and most importantly you think this is a legit ask ?

And yes, Muslims do act with restraint in respect of law or else you could have atleast quote a single incident in recent times in India where Muslims were openly butchering cows or selling it or doing it's BBQ. By the way, in recently concluded Eid how many Muslims got to slaughter cow??

Most of these incidents never get to the media but those who live in or around Muslim dominated neighborhoods know what happens.

Despicable scumbags with absolutely no regards whatsoever towards Hindu beliefs will do whatever they want to. This is the reality.

Forget village idiots in India ... you can see right here on this forum what the supposedly well educated Muslims react by mocking Hindu beliefs and making disgraceful comments on the topic. If thats how educated people behave why do you think the situation would be any better in lawless areas in India ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Do you understand the scale involved ? I mean the Indian police are soo bogged down by workload that you expect them to have time and resources to deal with violence against Cows ... and most importantly you think this is a legit ask ?

O yes police doesn't have time for that but knows how to collect data on following:

India: number of cases registered under Wildlife Protection Act 2023| Statista

In 2023, the number of cases registered under the Wildlife Protection Act in India was over ***.

www.statista.com

Now I am dead sure whatever you are saying is just a subjective opinion or at best propaganda by these vigilantes otherwise be it minority rights or animal rights statistics are never that difficult to collect when some issue is that pressing. Argue with objective facts or you can keep your subjective opinions

 

[uppercut]

O yes police doesn't have time for that but knows how to collect data on following:

India: number of cases registered under Wildlife Protection Act 2023| Statista

In 2023, the number of cases registered under the Wildlife Protection Act in India was over ***.

www.statista.com

Now I am dead sure whatever you are saying is just a subjective opinion or at best propaganda by these vigilantes otherwise be it minority rights or animal rights statistics are never that difficult to collect when some issue is that pressing. Argue with objective facts or you can keep your subjective opinions

You dont understand do you ? First of all no Hindu or even police will go into a heavily Muslim dominated neighborhood to investigate these crimes. They are called mini-Pakistans for a reason. As I said before you have absolutely ZERO idea about the extent and gravity about the Muslim problem prevalent in India.

I will give you a well-known example of what happens when Pakistan wins a Cricket match against India. Even in big cosmopolitan cities like Mumbai you will see celebratory fire-works in Muslim areas (happened in 2021 when Pak won). That tells you how brazen and blatantly pro-pakistan they are. Dont give me the cow S about one can support any team .... you very well know that it does not work that way in India and Pakistan.

I will give you another example: Sambhal riots: Muslims indulged in violent riots (and targetted Police !!) in the small town of Sambhal which is a heavily Muslim dominated area because someone shouted Jai-Shri Ram during a court initiated survey of Mosque.

This is the reality of Muslims in India.


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[The Bald Eagle]

You dont understand do you ? First of all no Hindu or even police will go into a heavily Muslim dominated neighborhood to investigate these crimes. They are called mini-Pakistans for a reason. As I said before you have absolutely ZERO idea about the extent and gravity about the Muslim problem prevalent in India.

I will give you a well-known example of what happens when Pakistan wins a Cricket match against India. Even in big cosmopolitan cities like Mumbai you will see celebratory fire-works in Muslim areas (happened in 2021 when Pak won). That tells you how brazen and blatantly pro-pakistan they are. Dont give me the BS about one can support any team .... you very well know that it does not work that way in India and Pakistan.

I will give you another example: Sambhal riots: Muslims indulged in violent riots (and targetted Police !!) in the small town of Sambhal which is a heavily Muslim dominated area because someone shouted Jai-Shri Ram during a court initiated survey of Mosque.

This is the reality of Muslims in India.


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You are doing nothing but further exposing yourself, like always I ask you one thing and you digress

So basically the crux of your argument is all Muslims in India are anti Hindu and pro Pakistani...then won't you ask why is it so?? Obviously one can't praise the idiots who oppress them....Things were visibly different under congress

 

[HalBass9]

The police avoid entering heavily Muslim areas, often labeled 'Mini Pakistan' by some. If we’re to take certain Hindutva beliefs at face value, that these areas are entirely Muslim with no Hindu presence, then by that same logic, the consumption of beef within those areas should not be a concern. The contradiction lies in using religious sentiment selectively, not for genuine respect, but as a tool to provoke or control.

Clowns can't stop clowning themselves.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

The police avoid entering heavily Muslim areas, often labeled 'Mini Pakistan' by some. If we’re to take certain Hindutva beliefs at face value, that these areas are entirely Muslim with no Hindu presence, then by that same logic, the consumption of beef within those areas should not be a concern. The contradiction lies in using religious sentiment selectively, not for genuine respect, but as a tool to provoke or control.

Clowns can't stop clowning themselves.

Lol true....may be that's why they are able to do Beef BBQs there just like in USA...#halalribfest

 

[uppercut]

You are doing nothing but further exposing yourself, like always I ask you one thing and you digress

So basically the crux of your argument is all Muslims in India are anti Hindu and pro Pakistani...then won't you ask why is it so?? Obviously one can't praise the idiots who oppress them....

Can you tell me how this supposed "Oppression" happens ? Give me examples. I suppose the expectation is that you want to go around deliberately killing cows in India and when there is a backlash then that will be considered as oppression ?

Lol true....may be that's why they are able to do Beef BBQs there just like in USA...#halalribfest

There you go deliberately making crude comments even after being told that its not right. And then you go on pretending that Muslims are ... ohh-so-innocent in India and never hurt a fly yada yada yada

Things were visibly different under congress

Absolutely right ... in those days Muslims would bindaas indulge in unfettered bigotry with no fear of any sever consequences. It all changed when people had enough of this nonsense and started dealing with the scumbags in the only language that they comprehend : Brute force.

Let me repeat this again ... there is simply no concept of Live and let live for Muslims. It simply does not exist at all.

 

[uppercut]

as predictable as moths to a flame, the resident Jihadi Bigot-in-chief swoops in, predictably cheering and rallying for his fellow bigots, defending their "right" to indulge in blatant intolerance and unfettered bigotry openly defecating on Hindu beliefs.

 

[HalBass9]

as predictable as moths to a flame, the resident Jihadi Bigot-in-chief swoops in, predictably cheering and rallying for his fellow bigots, defending their "right" to indulge in blatant intolerance and unfettered bigotry openly defecating on Hindu beliefs.

The only ones defecating on Hindu beliefs are the Hindutva themselves, while living comfortably in countries that pride themselves on double patty beef burgers and smoked brisket. For Hindutva, anyone who calls out their hypocrisy is labeled a 'Jihadi.' They thrive on bigotry, hoping other Hindus will do the dirty work, while they profit abroad in lands where beef is served with pride and freedom is more than a slogan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nope!!! It was originally asked by @Rajdeep in Post# 591 ... here it is again ( Pay attention to the Red part and try answering it again )

Babri Mosque was build on top of what? That mosque could have been build in any other place. What was the reason for building on top of another religious site? Dnt blame if it had been taken down...should have done it sooner.




Because there are numerous pockets in India with heavy Muslim population. Life there is a living hell for Non-Muslims. We have had this discussion before !! Just a few months ago there was a full scale riot in Sambhal, UP where even the cops were attacked. There was no Hindu mob there to riot against !! So the answer to your question is: Rogue nutcases who are muscle and violence bound do not think like you and there are millions of them in India.




No such thing as "Butting in" on a anonymous forum. If you prefer a invitiation-only type of discussion go find another place to do that.

So what is your contention? That Muslims are rioting against Hindus in various pockets of India because of the Mughals? Maybe it would be better if you stuck to current disputes so we don't end up spanning a thousand different grievances.

Why do you think Muslims are causing trouble in India as a minority? Is it part of their belief system perhaps to take on the majority and provoke a murderous backlash where they would be the losers?

 

[uppercut]

So what is your contention? That Muslims are rioting against Hindus in various pockets of India because of the Mughals? Maybe it would be better if you stuck to current disputes so we don't end up spanning a thousand different grievances.

Why do you think Muslims are causing trouble in India as a minority? Is it part of their belief system perhaps to take on the majority and provoke a murderous backlash where they would be the losers?

Try answering the question for once without dodging/deflecting ...

Here it is again: "Babri Mosque was build on top of what?"

There is a reason why I am asking it. So please explain what is YOUR version of the story.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Try answering the question for once without dodging/deflecting ...

Here it is again: "Babri Mosque was build on top of what?"

There is a reason why I am asking it. So please explain what is YOUR version of the story.

Ask the question in a thread about either the Babri Majid or Mughal history, both of which had their own thread. Unless you want to make the case that Muslims are creating terror on every recent occasion in India because of the Babri Masjid. If you believe that to be the case then please explain why.

 

[uppercut]

The only ones defecating on Hindu beliefs are the Hindutva themselves, while living comfortably in countries that pride themselves on double patty beef burgers and smoked brisket. For Hindutva, anyone who calls out their hypocrisy is labeled a 'Jihadi.' They thrive on bigotry, hoping other Hindus will do the dirty work, while they profit abroad in lands where beef is served with pride and freedom is more than a slogan.

ofcourse ... killing cows in India would be a virtuous act per your Jihadi manual ... how dare anyone object to that. I should know better.

No shame, No morals no nothing. Just pure un adulterated bigotry.

 

[uppercut]

Ask the question in a thread about either the Babri Majid or Mughal history, both of which had their own thread. Unless you want to make the case that Muslims are creating terror on every recent occasion in India because of the Babri Masjid. If you believe that to be the case then please explain why.

My answer depends on what YOUR answer to that question. Its a simple question.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

My answer depends on what YOUR answer to that question. Its a simple question.

So you need me to discuss the Babri Masjid demolition in order to address why Muslims in India are creating issues in India today? But of course, @Rajdeep was not just claiming Muslims were an India problem. His assertion was that Muslims were creating problems alll over the world, and that was what we were discussing before you jumped into a conversation uninvited.

So if you have some theory as to why Muslims are a problem universally then you can put the Mughal/Babri issue to one side, or take it up in one of the dedicated threads.

I have bolded the bit you need to address to make it easier to stop skipping sideways and off on other tangents.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The only ones defecating on Hindu beliefs are the Hindutva themselves, while living comfortably in countries that pride themselves on double patty beef burgers and smoked brisket. For Hindutva, anyone who calls out their hypocrisy is labeled a 'Jihadi.' They thrive on bigotry, hoping other Hindus will do the dirty work, while they profit abroad in lands where beef is served with pride and freedom is more than a slogan.

If calling others 'jihadis' is perfectly acceptable here, then the equivalent terms for them would be 'Sanghi', 'Bhagwa terrorists', or members of a 'Gau Rakshak mob'.

 

[uppercut]

So you need me to discuss the Babri Masjid demolition in order to address why Muslims in India are creating issues in India today?

Its just one of the most prominent and long drawn dispute that very very clearly highlights how intolerance comes standard in Muslims. Unless ofcourse you have a theory where-in it was a evil conspiracy to malign the otherwise extremely peace loving muslims.

But in order for me to explain why that is the case I need to know what is YOUR take on how the Babri Masjid came to be ? Straight answer ( and believe me ... I am not trying to trick you. Just want to make sure that this would be a meaningful conversation )​

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its just one of the most prominent and long drawn dispute that very very clearly highlights how intolerance comes standard in Muslims. Unless ofcourse you have a theory where-in it was a evil conspiracy to malign the otherwise extremely peace loving muslims.

But in order for me to explain why that is the case I need to know what is YOUR take on how the Babri Masjid came to be ? Straight answer ( and believe me ... I am not trying to trick you. Just want to make sure that this would be a meaningful conversation )​

If you want to discuss the Babri Mosque please raise it in the appropriate thread. This is the last time I will request this.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Its just one of the most prominent and long drawn dispute that very very clearly highlights how intolerance comes standard in Muslims. Unless ofcourse you have a theory where-in it was a evil conspiracy to malign the otherwise extremely peace loving muslims.

But in order for me to explain why that is the case I need to know what is YOUR take on how the Babri Masjid came to be ? Straight answer ( and believe me ... I am not trying to trick you. Just want to make sure that this would be a meaningful conversation )​

Why is your Babri Masjid posts still intact? What does that have to do with this thread? Why are you dodging the actual questions being raised here?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

ofcourse ... killing cows in India would be a virtuous act per your Jihadi manual ... how dare anyone object to that. I should know better.

No shame, No morals no nothing. Just pure un adulterated bigotry.

Oh the irony, a self-declared 'gau rakshak' preaching cow protection from the comfort of a beef-eating country. Sitting in the US, sipping on a milkshake, while acting like a guardian of Indian cows? You are closer to McDonald's than a gaushala.

And are you protesting outside Indian embassies too or just flexing your selective outrage online?

Either drop the fake sainthood or book a ticket back to India to 'protect holy cows'. Until then, your moral compass seems to run on Wi-Fi and double standards. Run....

 

[BouncerGuy]

WATCH THE TOPIC AGAIN BEFORE YOU POST HERE NEXT...

THREAD IS ABOUT COWS.... KEEP IRRELEVANT STUFF AWAY FROM THIS THREAD NOW..

 

[Rajdeep]

If you want to discuss the Babri Mosque please raise it in the appropriate thread. This is the last time I will request this.

You raised the topic of Babri Masjid first in post #590. Now when appropriate responses been given to you by brother @uppercut , you are quaking your boots and running away.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You raised the topic of Babri Masjid first in post #590. Now when appropriate responses been given to you by brother @uppercut , you are quaking your boots and running away.

Since you have jumped into this topic, mind answering one thing? Do Pakistani cows hold more value in your or any Hindu's eyes than Indian buffaloes? Let's see if you are going to run away like that @uppercut guy.

 

[Rajdeep]

Since you have jumped into this topic, mind answering one thing? Do Pakistani cows hold more value in your or any Hindu's eyes than Indian buffaloes? Let's see if you are going to run away like that @uppercut guy.

Dear Viru,

By now You must know I never run away from anything. My user name is Rajdeep and not bhaag, remember?

However, you need to give more context and add more details on your question for me to give a proper response. As my history of posting in PP suggest, I never talk without substance and proper backups.

Thanks and Kind regards,
Rajdeep

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You raised the topic of Babri Masjid first in post #590. Now when appropriate responses been given to you by brother @uppercut , you are quaking your boots and running away.

I used Babri Masjid as an example of a local conflict in response to your generalisation that Muslims were troublemakers all over the world, so it must be them at fault for everything. It was not meant as a diversion to discuss the 200 year old history of the Babri Masjid for which there are already dedicated threads.

If you really want to discuss the Babri Masjid history in this thread specifically, we can cut and paste the 800 or so replies from the dedicated threads over here if you think that is helpful.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Dear Viru,

By now You must know I never run away from anything. My user name is Rajdeep and not bhaag, remember?

However, you need to give more context and add more details on your question for me to give a proper response. As my history of posting in PP suggest, I never talk without substance and proper backups.

Thanks and Kind regards,
Rajdeep

My question is crystal clear. Maybe ask English gurus like @Devadwal, @uppercut, or @straighttalk to break it down for you. Right now, it just looks like you are dodging it just like @uppercut.

 

[sweep_shot]

My question is crystal clear. Maybe ask English gurus like @Devadwal, @uppercut, or @straighttalk to break it down for you. Right now, it just looks like you are dodging it just like @uppercut.

Sanghis always dodge questions.

They seem incapable of sticking to a topic they don't like.

 

[Rajdeep]

My question is crystal clear. Maybe ask English gurus like @Devadwal, @uppercut, or @straighttalk to break it down for you. Right now, it just looks like you are dodging it just like @uppercut.

I honestly dont know the context as have not read all the posts and conversations. So if you can add more context to your question, I will happily oblige. Dnt quake in your boots like captain sahab.

 

[HalBass9]

There’s no question left to ask when their intentions have been made crystal clear. Just imagine if a so called Muslim extremist or KKK extremists, publicly declared that 200,000 Hindus should be slaughtered for some religious justification, we’d rightfully call it terrorism.

Hindutva politicians and their supporters are no different. It’s the same hatred, the same thirst for violence, just wrapped in a different flag and a distorted version of their own religion.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I honestly dont know the context as have not read all the posts and conversations. So if you can add more context to your question, I will happily oblige. Dnt quake in your boots like captain sahab.

You are the one quaking in your boots currently and trying to run away.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

There you go deliberately making crude comments even after being told that its not right. And then you go on pretending that Muslims are ... ohh-so-innocent in India and never hurt a fly yada yada yada

You are a perfect example of pot calling the kettle black...if my comments were crude then just imagine how harsh and lunatic would your suggestions be.... advocating of lynching of millions in broad daylight and that too with impunity...Our forum can't host such blatant bigotry anymore result of some subjective uncontrollable bias