[VIDEO] BJP leader threatens to ‘slaughter 200,000 Muslims’ over cow incident

[uppercut]

I know you won't answer ever and correction they have been observing this meat ban because of your government tyranny and also the one being lynched for eating cow meat include Hindus also. And as always many are killed just on suspicion but you have no shame in condemning that.

So essentially what you are saying is Muslims are not required to have any consideration towards Hindu beliefs and moreover you dont see anything wrong with that attitude by Muslims ... Correct ?

 

[uppercut]

Also thanks for confirming, once again, that your views are extremist in nature and you would be completely content with slaughtering over 200k humans over a “cow”.

In simple words, you are Muslim hating Hindutva extremists.

I think what you are trying to say here is that the Muslims are by default Neanderthals and you expect Hindus to pretend that this is legit normal behavior and therefore DEMAND Civilized responses ( if any !). The ideal response would be to pretend that there was nothing wrong and even better if we give up on our beliefs ( in this case pretend that the Cow is not sacred ). If we don't then the Hindus are the ones at fault for being offended ( and therefore they are the Extremists !! )

Tell me something new.​

Disgraceful mentality and then you go on wondering why people resort to issuing dire threats.

 

[HalBass9]

I think what you are trying to say here is that the Muslims are by default Neanderthals and you expect Hindus to pretend that this is legit normal behavior and therefore DEMAND Civilized responses ( if any !). The ideal response would be to pretend that there was nothing wrong and even better if we give up on our beliefs ( in this case pretend that the Cow is not sacred ). If we don't then the Hindus are the ones at fault for being offended ( and therefore they are the Extremists !! )

Tell me something new.​

Disgraceful mentality and then you go on wondering why people resort to issuing dire threats.

lol.

No! I’m saying stop supporting human massacre over a cow.

 

[uppercut]

lol.

No! I’m saying stop supporting human massacre over a cow.

That courtesy only applies to people amenable to Civilized means of dispute resolution. Muslims don't belong in that category.

Reason : Its been ONLY a few Centuries since this Neanderthal behavior pattern is ongoing.

So the million dollar question ... Why are Muslims still in Neanderthal age and most importantly why are you batting for Neanderthals ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

So essentially what you are saying is Muslims are not required to have any consideration towards Hindu beliefs and moreover you dont see anything wrong with that attitude by Muslims ... Correct ?

You keep on twisting things what I said is that even Hindus don't hold the idea of veneration of cows so high so hindu right wingers should be thankful to Muslim that they do refrain from eating meat despite no islamic prohibitions.

 

[uppercut]

I know you won't answer ever and correction they have been observing this meat ban because of your government tyranny and also the one being lynched for eating cow meat include Hindus also. And as always many are killed just on suspicion but you have no shame in condemning that.

This is not an answer as it does not address the main question of why Muslims are killing cows despite being well aware of how sacred it is.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

This is not an answer as it does not address the main question of why Muslims are killing cows despite being well aware of how sacred it is.

@uppercut please be a bit objective for a moment. The pig is forbidden in Islam so should I impose a ban on every non Muslim to eat it Infront of Muslims just because it hurt my feelings.

First NO Muslim Slaughters it before Hindus in UP or the areas where it is banned in India. It is actually the Lynch mob (Hindutva) brigade who hound people violating this law as you call it in your country and in majority of the occasions they turn out to be wrong as the meat turns out to be of lamb or goat or the one being consuming it turns out to be Hindu.

Just tell me one thing how many thousands forget about lacs in a population going into millions have been found guilty of the violation of (cow meat ban) law. Certainly there number are much much lesser than Hindutva lynchers on road.

Show me the stats where thousands forget about lacs or millions people who violated this law. Although NOBODY gets killed for violating a non capital offense anywhere in the world. Please answer without digressing

 

[uppercut]

@uppercut please be a bit objective for a moment. The pig is forbidden in Islam so should I impose on every non Muslim to eat it Infront of Muslim just because it hurt my feelings.

That comparison is completely invalid and has been addressed earlier in this thread simply because the Pig is not a sacred animal for Muslims like the cow is for Hindus. Infact if the muslims had their way they would eradicate the Pig species from Earth. About the only thing that comes even remotely close to cows for muslims is burning the quran and drawing the prophet.

First NO Muslim Slaughters it before Hindus in UP or the areas where it is banned in India. It is actually the Lynch mob (Hindutva) brigade who hound people violating this law as you call it in your country and in majority of the occasions they turn out to be wrong as the meat turns out to be of lamb or goat or the one being consuming it turns out to be Hindu.

Just tell me one thing how many thousands forget about lacs in a population going into millions have been found guilty of the violation of (cow meat ban) law. Certainly there number are much much lesser than Hindutva lynchers on road.

Show me the stats where thousands forget about lacs or millions people who violated this law. Although NOBODY gets killed for violating a non capital offense anywhere in the world. Please answer without digressing

So you are saying Muslims are not killing cows in India and are wrongly targeted by Hindutva mobs ? Is that what you are trying to say ?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

That comparison is completely invalid and has been addressed earlier in this thread simply because the Pig is not a sacred animal for Muslims like the cow is for Hindus. Infact if the muslims had their way they would eradicate the Pig species from Earth. About the only thing that comes even remotely close to cows for muslims is burning the quran and drawing the prophet.

Very wrong comparison, in English they say comparing apple to oranges. But you have even butchered this idiom. Prophets can be compared with Prophets and Holy Books with Holy Books and I think this is a no brainer.

And the fact the Cow is sacred and can't be eaten. Please confirm it to me as I would quote you multiple sources from your own holy books that say that cow could be consumed as meal or otherwise

So you are saying Muslims are not killing cows in India and are wrongly targeted by Hindutva mobs ? Is that what you are trying to say ?

First don't twist my word and read the above reply again if you couldn't comprehend it as I have already replied you there. Answer that please. And what about the South Indians are they MUSLIMS too or do you love China where you have one country and multiple system. If you want to apply a law apply it everywhere.

 

[uppercut]

Very wrong comparison, in English they say comparing apple to oranges. But you have even butchered this idiom. Prophets can be compared with Prophets and Holy Books with Holy Books and I think this is a no brainer.

Thats why I said "remotely close". But the pig is not a sacred animal for Muslims and therefore it does not enjoy any protections. So you are the one who is doing a apples to oranges type comparison.

And the fact the Cow is sacred and can't be eaten. Please confirm it to me as I would quote you multiple sources from your own holy books that say that cow could be consumed as meal or otherwise

There is a reason why it is also a law. And as for Holy books .... Lord Krishna is widely known as the Protector and friend of the Cows. ( Govinda , Gopala ).

First don't twist my word and read the above reply again if you couldn't comprehend it as I have already replied you there. Answer that please. And what about the South Indians are they MUSLIMS too or do you love China where you have one country and multiple system. If you want to apply a law apply it everywhere.

I did read your post and you were asking me for stats on how many Muslims were found guilty of harming cows ... thats why I wanted to understand the intent behind that question.

What has China got to do with this discussion ? We are only talking about India .

 

[The Bald Eagle]

There is a reason why it is also a law. And as for Holy books .... Lord Krishna is widely known as the Protector and friend of the Cows. ( Govinda , Gopala ).

And what is all this?

Atherva veda book 9 Hymn 4 verses 37-38-39 gives _expression that
cow's milk and cow's meat are most tasty among all other foods. It
says "The man should not eat before the guest who is Brahmin versed in
holy lore When the guest hath eaten he should eat. Now the sweetest
portion, the produce of cow, milk or flesh, that verily he should not
eat (before the guest)"

according Hindu Scriptures, In Vishnu Dharmottar Puran book 1 chapter
140 verses 49 & 50 says

"Those who do not eat meat served in the ceremony of dead
(Shraddha), will go to hell (narak)".

DID VEDIC HINDUS REALLY EAT BEEF? - part 2

alt.religion.hindu.narkive.com

 

[uppercut]

And what is all this?

This is a non-starter argument. one doesn't have to be a Hindu religious scholar for this .... a simple application of common sense and common knowledge will tell you that. If you want to pretend otherwise then thats just plain being dishonest. Because this is such a sensitive topic that it beggars belief that you are even pretending that there is no such thing as a sacred cow.


Do you think people are stupid to issue threats to those violating this belief and also have enacted cow protection laws for no good reason ( and BTW this law was enacted by Congress Party not BJP .. .so please spare me the conspiracy theories !!! ) ?

If you are not convinced go look at what MK Gandhi's opinion is on Cow protection. The reason is that the cow is the abode of all Hindu gods. Any real Hindu will tell you this.​

 

[The Bald Eagle]

This is a non-starter argument. one doesn't have to be a Hindu religious scholar for this .... a simple application of common sense and common knowledge will tell you that. If you want to pretend otherwise then thats just plain being dishonest. Because this is such a sensitive topic that it beggars belief that you are even pretending that there is no such thing as a sacred cow.


Do you think people are stupid to issue threats to those violating this belief and also have enacted cow protection laws for no good reason ( and BTW this law was enacted by Congress Party not BJP .. .so please spare me the conspiracy theories !!! ) ?

If you are not convinced go look at what MK Gandhi's opinion is on Cow protection. The reason is that the cow is the abode of all Hindu gods. Any real Hindu will tell you this.​

Don't want to get into this debate, Just made all this argument to get my point across that cow could be consumed as meat and by NO MEANS the eating of its flesh earn you a death warrant by lynching.

If someone violates a law punish him instead of lynching someone or threatening to massacre an entire community for it and the very fact that even in Hinduism there is no strictness regarding it's meat consumption show that Muslims by obeying the Indian law are giving a great example of tolerance and law abidance and anyone criticizing them as bigot for not abiding with non consumption of cow meat need to read his holy religious text first. Hopefully I answered your long standing query.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

This is a non-starter argument. one doesn't have to be a Hindu religious scholar for this .... a simple application of common sense and common knowledge will tell you that. If you want to pretend otherwise then thats just plain being dishonest. Because this is such a sensitive topic that it beggars belief that you are even pretending that there is no such thing as a sacred cow.


Do you think people are stupid to issue threats to those violating this belief and also have enacted cow protection laws for no good reason ( and BTW this law was enacted by Congress Party not BJP .. .so please spare me the conspiracy theories !!! ) ?

If you are not convinced go look at what MK Gandhi's opinion is on Cow protection. The reason is that the cow is the abode of all Hindu gods. Any real Hindu will tell you this.​

Sorry to disturb you again and this is the actual Muslim demand. Below article from 2009

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PS. I didn't mean to stir debate on a sensitive issue in your religion, but just answered your long standing challenge towards posters and me.

 

[uppercut]

Don't want to get into this debate, Just made all this argument to get my point across that cow could be consumed as meat and by NO MEANS the eating of its flesh earn you a death warrant by lynching.If someone violates a law punish him instead of lynching someone or threatening to massacre an entire community for it

You are yet to explain why Muslims are still harming cows despite being very very well aware of how sacred it is for Hindus. Do you have a clear simple answer for that ?

and the very fact that even in Hinduism there is no strictness regarding it's meat consumption show that Muslims by obeying the Indian law are giving a great example of tolerance and law abidance and anyone criticizing them as bigot for not abiding with non consumption of cow meat need to read his holy religious text first. Hopefully I answered your long standing query.

Categorically not true at all. Google nandi temples and you will find numerous live examples from really ancient to the current. Here is a random page with pictures : https://www.nativeplanet.com/travel-guide/nandi-statues-in-south-india-002772.html

Sorry to disturb you again and this is the actual Muslim demand. Below article from 2009

OBSERVER RESEARCH FOUNDATION

OBSERVER RESEARCH FOUNDATION

www.orfonline.org

PS. I didn't mean to stir debate on a sensitive issue in your religion, but just answered your long standing challenge towards posters and me.

Good gesture but its not practiced in totality. There are still many regular instances of Muslims violating this which is why the recent incident where a grave threat was issued and the reason why I am repeatedly asking that question.

There are full time cow protection organizations operating all across india whose day job is to rescue cows.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

You are yet to explain why Muslims are still harming cows despite being very very well aware of how sacred it is for Hindus. Do you have a clear simple answer for that ?





Categorically not true at all. Google nandi temples and you will find numerous live examples from really ancient to the current. Here is a random page with pictures : https://www.nativeplanet.com/travel-guide/nandi-statues-in-south-india-002772.html




Good gesture but its not practiced in totality. There are still many regular instances of Muslims violating this which is why the recent incident where a grave threat was issued and the reason why I am repeatedly asking that question.

There are full time cow protection organizations operating all across india whose day job is to rescue cows.

Any poster who had seen my posts 411, 413 and 415 could see whether I answered your posts clearly or not but if you are still not satisfied then sorry I can't help you anymore.

Although I answer your questions but you very cunningly evade my questions on mob lynching and no condemnation of it by your side Also India presents itself a country with an active law enforcement. Anyway I know you won't answer my points but still enjoy posting

 

[uppercut]

Any poster who had seen my posts 411, 413 and 415 could see whether I answered your posts clearly or not but if you are still not satisfied then sorry I can't help you anymore.

trying to pretend that Cows are not holy is a non-starter argument and I explained why that is the case. So that is why its not a real answer. The real answer is this: Muslims have very little respect for Hindu beliefs and sensitivities. The evidence is right here on this forum where educated yet hateful posters are still making insensitive posts on this topic.​

Although I answer your questions but you very cunningly evade my questions on mob lynching and no condemnation of it by your side Also India presents itself a country with an active law enforcement. Anyway I know you won't answer my points but still enjoy posting

I have very clearly explained my position on the aspect of condemnation. The reason is very simple. If AFTER CENTURIES UPON Centuries of violent conflict due to Muslims killing cows despite them being very well aware of how sacred it is for Hindus you cannot claim any civilized treatment. If you want civilized norms to be applicable the onus is on the Muslim community to conduct in a civilized manner which means they need to understand and respect sensitivities of other religious communities just as they expect others to respect their religious beliefs.​

 

[Local.Dada]

But Hindus - including yourself - move to the USA in droves. this is a country which celebrates kiliing cows almost above all other. If you consider their people as worse than animals, why do you pick western countries above all others as a place to celebrate arrival as if some heavenly abode?

How come you didn’t find out the answer for this from your previous generations as to why they migrated to UK? While you seem to be have been raised with perfect Pakistani ethnic rural pind values which is commendable without much of western influence while you display your British credentials on every other post.

I believe some times the answers are close to home.

In fact India was always there so probably more effort was put to achieve Pakistan. So wonder why they abandoned that special paradise.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

see the correction. Don't worry I will make sure that you come to terms with that reality no matter how long it takes. Go ahead tell us why you think those who deliberately have no considerations towards very sacred Hindu beliefs ( and have been at it for Centuries!) deserve to be treated as normal human beings and not as animals.

Go ahead now is the time to explain why you feel otherwise.

Your thoughts on these individuals. If you call people in your country "animals" then how would you describe Spain and South and latin americans

 

[HalBass9]

How come you didn’t find out the answer for this from your previous generations as to why they migrated to UK? While you seem to be have been raised with perfect Pakistani ethnic rural pind values which is commendable without much of western influence while you display your British credentials on every other post.

I believe some times the answers are close to home.

In fact India was always there so probably more effort was put to achieve Pakistan. So wonder why they abandoned that special paradise.

Off on a tangent again, are we? Why?

If the UK and USA allow everyone to practice their beliefs, including slaughtering animals like cows for consumption, why are Hindutva supporters flocking to these countries without a peep, yet ready to slaughter humans in India over the same thing?

Is there some magical border-crossing moment where their outrage and beliefs about cow slaughter just vanish into thin air? Or is it all just chef’s kiss peak hypocrisy? And please, don’t say, ‘because it’s India’, that’s literally the point. Do those beliefs dissolve the moment they hop on a flight?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How come you didn’t find out the answer for this from your previous generations as to why they migrated to UK? While you seem to be have been raised with perfect Pakistani ethnic rural pind values which is commendable without much of western influence while you display your British credentials on every other post.

I believe some times the answers are close to home.

In fact India was always there so probably more effort was put to achieve Pakistan. So wonder why they abandoned that special paradise.

This is a nonsense post where you are projecting false values such as rural pind with no western influence onto me with no rhyme or reason other than you might consider those values as inferior. What has it got to do with what I wrote?

The poster I was addressing has continually referred to people who kill cows as worse than animals, it is there in quotes. I was addressing real and provable values. You are just making no sense.

 

[Local.Dada]

The poster I was addressing has continually referred to people who kill cows as worse than animals, it is there in quotes. I was addressing real and provable values. You are just making no sense.

Not sure why you are hung up on cows only. Any person who kills, abuses, hurts innocent animals even if it is a house lizard is as bad as a pedo in my book. You don’t have to be a Hindu to feel that way.

In every culture there is a profession of a butcher. If every cobbler, jobless guy on benefits has a desire to chop down an animal instead of going to the local grocery store to buy his meat, that definetely is an issue. In western countries where you have lived longer than I have probably, if a kid is showing intention to hurt animals at a young age is taken to counseling as that that could lead to him being a potential serial killer based on profiling.

As far as me making no sense, I will leave it your comprehension skills or lack of it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How come you didn’t find out the answer for this from your previous generations as to why they migrated to UK? While you seem to be have been raised with perfect Pakistani ethnic rural pind values which is commendable without much of western influence while you display your British credentials on every other post.

I believe some times the answers are close to home.

In fact India was always there so probably more effort was put to achieve Pakistan. So wonder why they abandoned that special paradise.

Not sure why you are hung up on cows only. Any person who kills, abuses, hurts innocent animals even if it is a house lizard is as bad as a pedo in my book. You don’t have to be a Hindu to feel that way.

In every culture there is a profession of a butcher. If every cobbler, jobless guy on benefits has a desire to chop down an animal instead of going to the local grocery store to buy his meat, that definetely is an issue. In western countries where you have lived longer than I have probably, if a kid is showing intention to hurt animals at a young age is taken to counseling as that that could lead to him being a potential serial killer based on profiling.

As far as me making no sense, I will leave it your comprehension skills or lack of it.

I am not the one who is hung up on cows, it was your Hindu brother who described people who slaughter cows as worse than animals, presumably because it is the holiest animal for Hindus, and according to him, the ultimate Godhead for all Hindus, or words to that effect.

Not sure why you are whatabouting to why my previous generations migrated to England. Not that it's relevant, but they weren't particularly religious. This is the problem with responding emotionally, you lose all sense of what the conversation was actually addressing.

 

[Local.Dada]

I am not the one who is hung up on cows, it was your Hindu brother who described people who slaughter cows as worse than animals, presumably because it is the holiest animal for Hindus,

Ok. Let us remove the presumably holiest animals for Hindus part which probably triggers you and read the statement again.

People who slaughter cows (or any animal for the matter of fact) are worse than animals-

I don’t see any thing wrong with that.

Are you saying it’s ok for every random guy to go ahead and chop cows? What is your argument?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Ok. Let us remove the presumably holiest animals for Hindus part which probably triggers you and read the statement again.

People who slaughter cows (or any animal for the matter of fact) are worse than animals-

I don’t see any thing wrong with that.

Are you saying it’s ok for every random guy to go ahead and chop cows? What is your argument?

You are picking one statement, and even then diluting it by pretending it might not even relate to a cow. Try reading through the thread, there is an argument raging over whether it is right to kill 200,000 people because of the slaughter of one cow. I stayed out of it for a long time until I wondered if this Hindu fellow was so offended by cow slaughter, what must he think of the population of America? The country where beefburgers became the most famous food brand in the world? I don't think Muslims are the most forefront consumers of beef, so if one is raging against the Muslim population over the insensitivity, why be quiet on everyone else? And why move to that country which celebrates cow slaughter as part of the great US culture?

 

[anikrc1]

Some of the answers in this thread is quiet shocking. A million people's religious sentiment is not as valuable as a single person's life.

 

[sweep_shot]

You are picking one statement, and even then diluting it by pretending it might not even relate to a cow. Try reading through the thread, there is an argument raging over whether it is right to kill 200,000 people because of the slaughter of one cow. I stayed out of it for a long time until I wondered if this Hindu fellow was so offended by cow slaughter, what must he think of the population of America? The country where beefburgers became the most famous food brand in the world? I don't think Muslims are the most forefront consumers of beef, so if one is raging against the Muslim population over the insensitivity, why be quiet on everyone else? And why move to that country which celebrates cow slaughter as part of the great US culture?

I think the obvious answer is the guy is pretentious and an attention-seeker.

If he really cared about the issue so much, he wouldn't have migrated to USA (where beef is very commonly eaten).

The word "phony" comes to my mind.

 

[JaDed]

I think the obvious answer is the guy is pretentious and an attention-seeker.

If he really cared about the issue so much, he wouldn't have migrated to USA (where beef is very commonly eaten).

The word "phony" comes to my mind.

If you cared about Muslim brotherhood so much you wont be going to the country that is involved in wars against Muslim from 2001.
Try again

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think the obvious answer is the guy is pretentious and an attention-seeker.

If he really cared about the issue so much, he wouldn't have migrated to USA (where beef is very commonly eaten).

The word "phony" comes to my mind.

No I think it is just selective outrage. Americans are too big and powerful a community to risk annoying. Indian Muslims are a minority, make for a much easier target.