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[VIDEO] Chasing 373 to win, Pakistan end Day 4 of the 1st Test against New Zealand on 71/3

Imagine if Fawad scores big and rescues Pak, regardless if it's a win or a draw? Karachi media will be in a frenzy.
 
Yk313 said:
Posted the above earlier today (which is an excerpt from the full post) on Haris Sohail.

The guy does not have technique to fashion a career without playing his drives in the air.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pakistani-batsman-quot-Mohammad-Yousuf/page2
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Haris was driving aerially (and no I do not mean above covers as some batsmen do in Limited Overs) but in an uncontrolled manner, uppishly during the ENG 2018 tour. He just found the gaps. His streaky edges through gully and slips too went unnoticed it seems on PP, given his talent threads.

His sorry showing in AUS exposed him but he managed to not go to SAF, ENG and allowed the myth of his talent to remain afresh.

Hell, scratching all that if he had played the A game last week maybe that thread could have been closed.
 
Yk313 said:
Haris was driving aerially (and no I do not mean above covers as some batsmen do in Limited Overs) but in an uncontrolled manner, uppishly during the ENG 2018 tour. He just found the gaps. His streaky edges through gully and slips too went unnoticed it seems on PP, given his talent threads.

His sorry showing in AUS exposed him but he managed to not go to SAF, ENG and allowed the myth of his talent to remain afresh.

Hell, scratching all that if he had played the A game last week maybe that thread could have been closed.
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It’s okay Saud is basically a better, younger version.
 
Rayyman said:
It’s okay Saud is basically a better, younger version.
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My post was not about comparing him to others. I couldn’t care less about insipid comparisons.

Many of PP stalwarts and former Pakistan greats have talked up Haris’ “talent” as the only true deliverance from our woes. I really respect many people on this forum but feel the least we can do given this is already an anonymous platform is be honest regarding our misgivings and strengths. That’s all.
 
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Don’t want to rub it in but after watching Gill, watching Fawad Alam bat like watching a total different sport. Good luck to him though for Pakistan’s sake.
 
NZD are not Pakistan. They will access and use footage to see how to get batsmen out. They will place fielders to snap up uppish drives, push batsmen back to induce the edges etc.

IND have just demonstrated what cricketing acumen, planning and discipline can achieve.

To all the people on this thread. I urge you to go and watch the dismissals of the IND batsmen and compare them to those of the AUS batsmen. Just the dismissals. Even if you watched the game, pretend you do not know what happened on the ball before each dismissal.

Many of the dismissals of IND batsmen across this and the previous Test might make it to Youtube Highlight Reels on a standalone basis.

Compare that to the dismissals of Smith etc. On a standalone basis, no one will heed the leg side glance being snapped up by leg gully or a one-off edge to slips off Ashwin. They may seem like “unlucky” one off dismissals. The leg side flick being constantly stopped by a fielder might appear to be unlucky on the batsman’s part.

This may give the impression that AUS may have bowled more deliveries worthy of Highlight Reel inclusion (unplayable or whatever). However, it was IND who planned well and bowled where they needed to bowl for each of AUS key batsmen.

PAK with its impotent management (and despite this being his first permanent assignment, I will include my username-sake in this) and incompetent data team, cricketers with zero cricketing acumen simply loses out before setting foot in the arena: we are not even professional enough for the current sport.
 
Local.Dada said:
Don’t want to rub it in but after watching Gill, watching Fawad Alam bat like watching a total different sport. Good luck to him though for Pakistan’s sake.
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Hota hai bhai. If he had been Steve Smith we would not care. But something needs to give here. Either he scores consistently or he goes.
 
I don’t know if this Fawad stance should be allowed in Australia. Imagine him batting with this gimmick stance against Starc and Cummins on those pitches that India is playing on, he might get hurt real bad. May be it works for him but it doesn’t seem safe on such bouncy and nasty pitches.
 
Yk313 said:
NZD are not Pakistan. They will access and use footage to see how to get batsmen out. They will place fielders to snap up uppish drives, push batsmen back to induce the edges etc.

IND have just demonstrated what cricketing acumen, planning and discipline can achieve.

To all the people on this thread. I urge you to go and watch the dismissals of the IND batsmen and compare them to those of the AUS batsmen. Just the dismissals. Even if you watched the game, pretend you do not know what happened on the ball before each dismissal.

Many of the dismissals of IND batsmen across this and the previous Test might make it to Youtube Highlight Reels on a standalone basis.

Compare that to the dismissals of Smith etc. On a standalone basis, no one will heed the leg side glance being snapped up by leg gully or a one-off edge to slips off Ashwin. They may seem like “unlucky” one off dismissals. The leg side flick being constantly stopped by a fielder might appear to be unlucky on the batsman’s part.

This may give the impression that AUS may have bowled more deliveries worthy of Highlight Reel inclusion (unplayable or whatever). However, it was IND who planned well and bowled where they needed to bowl for each of AUS key batsmen.

PAK with its impotent management (and despite this being his first permanent assignment, I will include my username-sake in this) and incompetent data team, cricketers with zero cricketing acumen simply loses out before setting foot in the arena: we are not even professional enough for the current sport.
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Absolutely spot on!

POTW!
 
Classic Misbah legacy, just let the bowlers bowl at you for eternity expecting them to give you something on a platter
 
Yk313 said:
NZD are not Pakistan. They will access and use footage to see how to get batsmen out. They will place fielders to snap up uppish drives, push batsmen back to induce the edges etc.

IND have just demonstrated what cricketing acumen, planning and discipline can achieve.

To all the people on this thread. I urge you to go and watch the dismissals of the IND batsmen and compare them to those of the AUS batsmen. Just the dismissals. Even if you watched the game, pretend you do not know what happened on the ball before each dismissal.

Many of the dismissals of IND batsmen across this and the previous Test might make it to Youtube Highlight Reels on a standalone basis.

Compare that to the dismissals of Smith etc. On a standalone basis, no one will heed the leg side glance being snapped up by leg gully or a one-off edge to slips off Ashwin. They may seem like “unlucky” one off dismissals. The leg side flick being constantly stopped by a fielder might appear to be unlucky on the batsman’s part.

This may give the impression that AUS may have bowled more deliveries worthy of Highlight Reel inclusion (unplayable or whatever). However, it was IND who planned well and bowled where they needed to bowl for each of AUS key batsmen.

PAK with its impotent management (and despite this being his first permanent assignment, I will include my username-sake in this) and incompetent data team, cricketers with zero cricketing acumen simply loses out before setting foot in the arena: we are not even professional enough for the current sport.
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For this you need education, a change in cultural mindset and foreign coaches in your set up
 
Fawads stance looks like he's just chilling at the pan ki dukaan and suddenly realizes that he is in the middle of a Test match.
 
Fawad should have only one job, to bore the opposition into giving up.
 
This Wagner looks like a medium pacer don't see what the hype is all about
 
Fawad playing for his career. He needs to play positive if he wants to survive. He won't last long defending.
 
With the way he's starts up, hard to see how Fawad Alam can consistently score in international cricket

It starts out as as a stance that the West Indian Chanderpaul had, but that's where the similarity ends, Chanders was still and in a position to play an all round game with all round shots at the point of delivery.

Alam seems to be lunging. With that style, it seems he can only play the forward or backward defensive, forward prod, streaky edge, or awkward pull.
 
waleed88 said:
Fawad should have only one job, to bore the opposition into giving up.
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That’s a classic Misbah on the crease for you.
He would make the opposition get on the knees and cry tears in begging mercy to be taken out of misery. They would even offer to award victory to Misbah but Misbah won’t accept it. This is how much he loved his batting style.
 
JaDed said:
Very Mamoonisque logic unless you are being sarcastic.
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I was being sarcastic lol. Just find it annoying how the mythical Karachi Media/lobby is bought up whenever a player from Karachi plays. Like Fawad or not, he more than deserves to be in the team, his selection has nothing do with any media/lobby.
 
So this is what our greatest domestic batsman has to offer.

I have no words.
 
Pakistan again loosing wickets at the same time blocking , this kind of batting makes no sense at all.
 
Colorblind Genius said:
That’s a classic Misbah on the crease for you.
He would make the opposition get on the knees and cry tears in begging mercy to be taken out of misery. They would even offer to award victory to Misbah but Misbah won’t accept it. This is how much he loved his batting style.
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Misbah could smoke a six out of nowhere, Fawad can't clear the inner circle
 
NZ is a tough side to beat in NZ. Williamson is a great captain too. This is one of the best bowling attack to have in NZ conditions. Southee/Wagner/Boult/Jamison. You have no escape against such variations. You just have to bowl better to compete with them.
 
Haris is such a rubbish batsman. Should be booted after this series.
 
choudhary6964 said:
Fawad ugliest batsman scoring runs is not good
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Smith and Chanderpaul should be extremely grateful that they weren’t Pakistani or our fans would have dismissed all their runs because they look ugly.

I guess our country deserves classy batsman like Umar Akmal and Shan Masood lol.
 
NZ 431 & 180/5 d
PAK 239 & 71/3 (38) CRR: 1.87
Day 4: Stumps - Pakistan need 302 runs

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Fawad playing for his career. He needs to play positive if he wants to survive. He won't last long defending.
 
9 days for India's next test. Too bad Babar isn't playing here, else this could have a nice 2nd choice to watch.
 
Waiting for threads to pop up on why and how Pakistan should go for the draw and win tomorrow :wy
 
Tim Southee became the third New Zealand bowler to 300 Test victims as the hosts moved into a dominant position against Pakistan on day four in Mount Maunganui on Tuesday, 29 December.

After Southee and Boult made inroads with the new ball, Pakistan went to stumps at 71/3 with Azhar Ali and Fawad Alam digging deep to keep the buoyant hosts at bay.

After having bowled Pakistan out for 239 at stumps the previous day, the home team's openers looked confident as they looked to add quick runs to the lead. Both Tom Blundell and Tom Latham played their strokes to score a half-century each.

After Mohammad Abbas broke the opening partnership for 111 with Blundell getting bowled as he looked to play an expansive heave, Pakistan were able to make routine inroads.

Naseem Shah was the most effective, testing New Zealand's batsmen with short-pitched bowling and reaped the three wickets of Latham, Kane Williamson and Henry Nicholls. But part of the reason for wickets falling was New Zealand's aggressive approach in a bid to put Pakistan in as soon as possible.

The declaration came with New Zealand at 180/5, and the new ball duo of Tim Southee and Trent Boult took no time to make an impact. Shan Masood was the first to fall as he poked at one outside off to give Southee his first and Abid Ali was caught behind off Trent Boult the next over to leave Pakistan reeling at 0/2.

It wasn't too long before Southee had Haris Sohail caught driving loosely at short cover to register his 300th scalp in Test cricket, a mark which has previously been reached only by Daniel Vettori (361) and Richard Hadlee (431) among New Zealanders. The dismissal came as a result of Southee having pushed Sohail back with a bouncer the previous delivery before baiting him with a fuller one.

After that dismissal, however, Azhar Ali (34*) and Fawad Alam (21*) applied themselves to bat Pakistan to stumps without further damage. The duo were solid in defence on what seemed like a great batting track. Southee and co. will have the work cut out if they are to close the game out on the final day. They will be particularly desperate for a victory after India strengthened their position on the ICC World Test Championship points table with a bruising eight-wicket win over Australia in Melbourne.

New Zealand will go into day five as firm favourites but will be well aware that all three results are still possible with Pakistan needing 302 more runs. The visitors will hope for a big partnership, which could give them a chance to push for an unlikely win.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1958141
 
Azhar and Fawad need to some how dead bat everything for the entire day tomorrow. Its now down to these 2 rizwan and fahim to battle out a draw for us.
 
This sort of batting failure on this flat track is completely unacceptable from the openers.
Abid's career is done.
 
New Zealand fast bowler Kyle Jamieson has been fined 25 per cent of his match fee for breaching Level 1 of the ICC Code of Conduct during the third day of the first Test against Pakistan in Tauranga.

Jamieson was found to have breached Article 2.9 of the ICC Code of Conduct for Players and Player Support Personnel, which relates to throwing a ball at or near a player in an inappropriate and/or dangerous manner during an international match.

In addition to this, one demerit point has been added to the disciplinary record of Jamieson, for whom it was the first offence in a 24-month period.

The incident occurred in the 75th over of Pakistan’s first innings on Monday, when Jamieson, after fielding the ball on his follow through, threw it in the direction of Faheem Ashraf at high speed when the batsman was away from the stumps but within the popping crease and not intending to take a run.

Jamieson admitted the offence and accepted the sanction proposed by Jeff Crowe of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees and ratified by the ICC Cricket Operations department as per the COVID-19 interim playing regulations. There was no need for a formal hearing.

On-field umpires Chris Gaffaney and Wayne Knights, third umpire Chris Brown and fourth official Shaun Haig levelled the charges.

Level 1 breaches carry a minimum penalty of an official reprimand, a maximum penalty of 50 per cent of a player’s match fee, and one or two demerit points.
 
Highlights of Day 4:

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These 2 need to keep going get the score to 150 which should allow Faheem and Rizwan to make quick 50s getting the score to 300 and setting it up for Yasir and Shaheen to smash quick 20s and 30s to win the game with 5 overs to spare.

:salute
 
Pakistan have chased 300+ under 60 overs on Day 5 against Sri Lanka in 2013. But it was in UAE, we have Younis and Misbah and also started our 4th innings on Day 5. We are 3 down here.
 
Cric1234 said:
These 2 need to keep going get the score to 150 which should allow Faheem and Rizwan to make quick 50s getting the score to 300 and setting it up for Yasir and Shaheen to smash quick 20s and 30s to win the game with 5 overs to spare.

:salute
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Pakistan should grind it out on day 5 without losing too many wickets and force a draw. Any attempt at victory will only make them lose at this stage.
 
ARK Rafay said:
Pakistan have chased 300+ under 60 overs on Day 5 against Sri Lanka in 2013. But it was in UAE, we have Younis and Misbah and also started our 4th innings on Day 5. We are 3 down here.
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A more likely scenario is 100-3 becoming 150-7 and an inevitable defeat.
 
Whilst it has been so dull,

it has still been a PROPER Test this!
 
Yk313 said:
NZD are not Pakistan. They will access and use footage to see how to get batsmen out. They will place fielders to snap up uppish drives, push batsmen back to induce the edges etc.

IND have just demonstrated what cricketing acumen, planning and discipline can achieve.

To all the people on this thread. I urge you to go and watch the dismissals of the IND batsmen and compare them to those of the AUS batsmen. Just the dismissals. Even if you watched the game, pretend you do not know what happened on the ball before each dismissal.

Many of the dismissals of IND batsmen across this and the previous Test might make it to Youtube Highlight Reels on a standalone basis.

Compare that to the dismissals of Smith etc. On a standalone basis, no one will heed the leg side glance being snapped up by leg gully or a one-off edge to slips off Ashwin. They may seem like “unlucky” one off dismissals. The leg side flick being constantly stopped by a fielder might appear to be unlucky on the batsman’s part.

This may give the impression that AUS may have bowled more deliveries worthy of Highlight Reel inclusion (unplayable or whatever). However, it was IND who planned well and bowled where they needed to bowl for each of AUS key batsmen.

PAK with its impotent management (and despite this being his first permanent assignment, I will include my username-sake in this) and incompetent data team, cricketers with zero cricketing acumen simply loses out before setting foot in the arena: we are not even professional enough for the current sport.
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This is what separates great teams from average teams.

We did not even have enough planning and common sense to bowl short to Chris Woakes, who is prone to the short ball.

Similarly, if we'd have bowled short in the first innings after seeing that there was nothing on the pitch, we'd have gotten a lot of wickets.
 
gani999 said:
Pakistan should grind it out on day 5 without losing too many wickets and force a draw. Any attempt at victory will only make them lose at this stage.
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I'd keep the draw as the back-up option, and see if we can complete the chase.

But if we lose early wickets, we need to just go for the draw ASAP.
 
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