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good one yousuf my respect for you have been increased by this great gesture other Pakistani ex and current cricketers should show some guts and use similar language.
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lol, will that change your cricket team's fortunes? If it does, more power to you and your ilk who are glossing over a remark on national TV.good one yousuf my respect for you have been increased by this great gesture other Pakistani ex and current cricketers should show some guts and use similar language.
Is your account hacked by Joshila?Not a problem.
His country's channel, his words, his rules. He is free to say whatever he wants.
Fitting responseFitting response from Yousuf. “Surya” chose to act the way he did, expect responses.
Absolutely. It was indeed very disrespectful from Irfan Pathan to compare Shahid Afridi to a dog.
Yes same goes for that PIG I guess then.. Humiliation for that pig getting compared???Absolutely. It was indeed very disrespectful from Irfan Pathan to compare Shahid Afridi to a dog.
I hope Irfan apologises to all dogs (including strays) for this insult.
Let's respect Yousuf sentiments
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You can assumed anything like how Pakistan posters showed support to Yousuf in this thread.Yes same goes for that PIG I guess then.. Humiliation for that pig getting compared???
Is that what you are saying???
I assumed the same thing you assumed... why crying now?You can assumed anything like how Pakistan posters showed support to Yousuf in this thread.![]()
Where I'm crying? I already said you can assumed anything, I don't have any problem.I assumed the same thing you assumed... why crying now?
Fixed for you .These pakistanis still don’t get it, this is years of behaviour catching up with you guys. Police your own people and their attitude towards others especially online. Rape, celebrating death, calling everyone an hindutva/ Sanghi, blaming ordinary indian for literally everything.
Save your paragraphs. No one cares.
I think deserved tbhFixed for you .![]()
Too bad that hate is impotent.I think deserved tbh. We don’t hate you people enough in my opinion.
Pakistanis, ex cricketers especially, have always been way more respectful and softer towards the Indians… in fact to a point where it comes across as weak and pitiful.What has been more unsettling than Mohammad Yousuf’s derogatory comment is the support it has drawn. Not merely from the usual extremists and trolls, but also from seasoned voices who otherwise present themselves as balanced and respectful.
People with a track record of using measured language suddenly found it acceptable to justify such crude words from a public figure, simply because he is their countryman and because they felt personally offended. One of the justifications given was that this is understandable since Indian trolls abuse Pakistan and Pakistanis online. But that is a troubling stance. Abuse and trolling are global phenomena. Nowhere in the world are respected public figures excused for lowering themselves to the level of anonymous trolls. That fine line is precisely what separates a celebrated figure from a random online abuser.
This is a revealing moment. When those who usually uphold civility abandon their own standards to defend someone who is clearly wrong, it is no longer about one man’s lapse of judgment. It shows how national or tribal loyalties can overpower the basic principles of civilized behavior. That is how societal decay begins, the erosion of values, the replacement of truth with partisanship, and the quiet acceptance that anything is permissible if it serves the group.
I also understand the emotional weight of recent times. Many of us are hurt, angry, and disillusioned. I, too, have engaged in heated exchanges that bordered on war-mongering, and I regret it. Perhaps all of us do, at some level. We wish things had been handled better, by all sides.
What is done is done. The question now is how we move forward. The most constructive step would be for both nations to create space for dialogue and diplomacy, with a clear roadmap to gradually reduce tensions. Only after that first goal is achieved should border disputes even be placed on the table. This will not happen quickly; it may take decades. But it will never happen if we normalize hostility and excuse uncivilized conduct.
Indians must be open-hearted enough to acknowledge and condemn their own mistakes. Pakistanis should do the same. My purpose here is not to put Pakistanis on the backfoot over this single matter. Indians have erred too, getting on a cricket field and refusing to honour the the old cricketing traditions and turning the post match ceremony into a platform to play international politics was a wrongdoing on our part. I empathise with Pakistani cricketing fraternity for rightfully getting hurt and agitated by it. I would have fully welcomed sanctions from ICC for this behaviour of ours but as we all know the work itself isn’t fair let alone Cricket.
I also welcome my Pakistani friends to ask me directly about any instance where they felt Indian voices crossed the line, and I will answer with honesty.
Finally, to those who feel overwhelmed by negativity and drawn towards hostility, I would offer the same advice I am preparing to follow myself, take a digital break. Step away for days, weeks, or months, long enough to let your mind and body heal. Rebuild a positive outlook. Return with a renewed respect for coexistence, peace, and progress. It will improve not only the quality of this forum, but also the quality of our own lives.
You lack self awareness.Too bad that hate is impotent.
No handshakes for you.
I agree. Indians have been way more hateful and it’s only appropriate Pakistanis shift their attitudes towards them as well. Enough of this peace and BS talks.I think deserved tbh. We don’t hate you people enough in my opinion.
Absolutely, who are these people?I agree. Indians have been way more hateful and it’s only appropriate Pakistanis shift their attitudes towards them as well. Enough of this peace and BS talks.
Next generation are even worse in terms of cricketing skills vis a vis their Indian counterparts.Absolutely, who are these people?
We need the next generation to put them in their place. Although Rizwan and Babar are decent enough cricketers, I hate their cake cutting antics and pandering to Kohli. Treat others how they treat you (without going to any extremes of course). Take the middle path.
Every single person in Pak knows the performances of their team suck. No one is gloating over those or is in a delusion that Pak cricket team is great.lol, will that change your cricket team's fortunes? If it does, more power to you and your ilk who are glossing over a remark on national TV.
It’s not just cricketers - but even ex cricketers and all media personalities. They really need to respect themselves now. All you get is hate and abuse from the other end and you continue to stay silent or respectful.Absolutely, who are these people?
We need the next generation to put them in their place. Although Rizwan and Babar are decent enough cricketers, I hate their cake cutting antics and pandering to Kohli. Treat others how they treat you (without going to any extremes of course). Take the middle path.
That’s fine, but no need to pander to Indian cricketers or anyone involved.Next generation are even worse in terms of cricketing skills vis a vis their Indian counterparts.
Please read what he said and comment again.So you justify someone being called a pig on national TV.
Got it.
Fair is fairSo you justify someone being called a pig on national TV.
Got it.
Md Yusuf is a waking billboard for a lot of memes, promise you won’t blow a gasket if something inappropriate comes up. Ok?Fair is fair
The same guy called Pakistani’s Terrorists (directly or indirectly). He supported the killing of innocent Pakistani civilians.
He deserves what he gets now.
LOLMohammad Yousuf referred to Indian captain Suryakumar Yadav as Suwar (Pig) Kumar on live TV during a discussion on the handshake controversy.
The anchor tried to correct him but he did it again knowing fully well what he was doing.
I believe this is a new low in the Cricketing relationships between both nations as such language hasn’t been used in the past by players and media people from either country.
Mohammad Yousuf showing lack of class once again which is a shame given, he was a fine batsman for Pakistan with a stellar record.
A player of his stature should not be using such gutter language.
As if Indians have been holding back on classless comments till now.Md Yusuf is a waking billboard for a lot of memes, promise you won’t blow a gasket if something inappropriate comes up. Ok?![]()
Is Md Yousuf an anonymous social media troll or is he someone paid to sit on TV as a broadcaster- you realize it is chalk and cheese right?As if Indians have been holding back on classless comments till now.
Indians had this coming. Pak ex players don’t need to be respectful anymore. Folks like Wasim Akram should grow a spine as well and give it back
The insults were from Indian ex cricketers - not social media trolls.Is Md Yousuf an anonymous social media troll or is he someone paid to sit on TV as a broadcaster- you realize it is chalk and cheese right?
Also what are people missing? If he got emotional and said things about BCCI- Indian team mgmnt or even India for domestic consumption would have given him a pass (obviously there is a tolerance for what is acceptable language)
He personally attacked a player from his own cricketing fraternity that he has never met or played with. He tried to imply by manipulating his name to make it sound like a “pig”.
Ideally it’s a school level insult but with Yusuf since he is an Islamic scholar I believe it is probably the lowest form of insult in his mind. Need to keep that context in mind too. Very toxic behavior. You cannot compare some internet troll who apparently posted about assault and people are Ponting at that as it’s ok for Yusuf to say whatever he wantsdo you realize how ridiculous it sounds
What is the quote? What is the context?The insults were from Indian ex cricketers - not social media trolls.
What are you on about?
Lol, where did I condone any of those comments?If you justify someone being a called a dog on national tv - sure I do.
Or if you justify someone being called someone’s “baap” on national tv - sure I do.
I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.So you justify someone being called a pig on national TV.
Got it.
Lol, Strong men of Brampton couldn't even make Brampton better and have taken the city down the drain, calling Liberals weak , the only reason Liberals are weak because the fight for guys like you to come to West and make it hell.Yousuf is just expressing how he feels about radicalized Indians. Stop being politically correct, you cannot beat Indian machinery and Bhakts in this game. And he is spot on, Indians are always in a filmy mode. Everything is for optics, just like Surya's tweet for Modi's birthday today with 'Ji'. Who does that? outside stupid low IQ countries, sycophancy is ingrained in desi minds. A Prime Minister doesn't need your birthday wish, he is not a 9 year old child. North Koreans do that, individuals with self respect refrain from such useless waste of network bandwidth, time and attention. I always maintained weak men crave leaders who walk all over them. Likes of Zia, Indira and Modi are result of that. In west, weak Liberals left wing lunatics push for strong draconian laws.
What kind of name is Surya? lol kuch bhi?I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
If you don't have an iota of knowledge about something, stop blabbering about it. Just like I won't comment on Muslim names and customs.I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
Don’t think any Indian cares for Yousuf except some idiots who just want to stir up some controversy.I don’t think Indians are aware of the caliber of Yousuf when it comes to roasting
This guy does mitti paleet or anyone when he’s in that zone.
Exactly. Use these words as ammunition to beat his team again. Humiliate them on the pitch. Words don’t mean anything. We have heard a lot worse on the pitch.Not a problem.
His country's channel, his words, his rules. He is free to say whatever he wants.
I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
Says a guy who has a Fakhar in his team.I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
Ok fair play - I respect you as a poster and clarifyingIt’s cultural insensitivity to be disrespectful to someone’s traditional name.
Surya is one of the oldest names in Sanskrit language. It means the Sun. In Hindu thought, Surya is not just an object in the sky but a deity representing the sustaining force of the nature.
When Hindus preserve names like Surya, they are preserving continuity with their civilization’s roots, which predate Islam, Christianity, and even many aspects of recorded history. These ancient names carry memory, reverence, and resistance. Despite invasions, forced conversions, and systematic attempts to erase indigenous culture, names tied to Sanskrit and Vedic heritage have lived on. The fact that modern Indians still proudly carry such ancient names shows that cultural erasure failed.
But I highly doubt the parents thought of he would have to interact with the English language at the time.Says a guy who has a Fakhar in his team.
I was never a fan of moyo. Actually the only Pakistani player I liked was shoaib akthar and wasim somewhat. I do like fakhar zaman in the modern era. I do not like shoaib or wasim the person but I do rate them as cricketers for their skill although shoaib is a bit overrated anyway.I was a fan of Yousuf Youhana/Mohammad Yousuf the batsman. After he retired, his stint as coach didn't work out well for him. Now, he probably is trying hard to be in the limelight.
Lmao I have seen people with names like Anas Butt in Pakistan. It’s not that hard to be juvenile and make a play of words on anyones name if you want to be offensive. However do you indulge in it has a lot of factors not just religion like culture, upbringing, parentage. I will leave it there.But I highly doubt the parents thought of he would have to interact with the English language at the time.
Whereas pant and (p)rishabh - i mean come on that’s just asking for trouble!
Surya is sun. Nothing wrong with the name.I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
What tradition? Set by whom? England?What has been more unsettling than Mohammad Yousuf’s derogatory comment is the support it has drawn. Not merely from the usual extremists and trolls, but also from seasoned voices who otherwise present themselves as balanced and respectful.
People with a track record of using measured language suddenly found it acceptable to justify such crude words from a public figure, simply because he is their countryman and because they felt personally offended. One of the justifications given was that this is understandable since Indian trolls abuse Pakistan and Pakistanis online. But that is a troubling stance. Abuse and trolling are global phenomena. Nowhere in the world are respected public figures excused for lowering themselves to the level of anonymous trolls. That fine line is precisely what separates a celebrated figure from a random online abuser.
This is a revealing moment. When those who usually uphold civility abandon their own standards to defend someone who is clearly wrong, it is no longer about one man’s lapse of judgment. It shows how national or tribal loyalties can overpower the basic principles of civilized behavior. That is how societal decay begins, the erosion of values, the replacement of truth with partisanship, and the quiet acceptance that anything is permissible if it serves the group.
I also understand the emotional weight of recent times. Many of us are hurt, angry, and disillusioned. I, too, have engaged in heated exchanges that bordered on war-mongering, and I regret it. Perhaps all of us do, at some level. We wish things had been handled better, by all sides.
What is done is done. The question now is how we move forward. The most constructive step would be for both nations to create space for dialogue and diplomacy, with a clear roadmap to gradually reduce tensions. Only after that first goal is achieved should border disputes even be placed on the table. This will not happen quickly; it may take decades. But it will never happen if we normalize hostility and excuse uncivilized conduct.
Indians must be open-hearted enough to acknowledge and condemn their own mistakes. Pakistanis should do the same. My purpose here is not to put Pakistanis on the backfoot over this single matter. Indians have erred too, getting on a cricket field and refusing to honour the the old cricketing traditions and turning the post match ceremony into a platform to play international politics was a wrongdoing on our part. I empathise with Pakistani cricketing fraternity for rightfully getting hurt and agitated by it. I would have fully welcomed sanctions from ICC for this behaviour of ours but as we all know the work itself isn’t fair let alone Cricket.
I also welcome my Pakistani friends to ask me directly about any instance where they felt Indian voices crossed the line, and I will answer with honesty.
Finally, to those who feel overwhelmed by negativity and drawn towards hostility, I would offer the same advice I am preparing to follow myself, take a digital break. Step away for days, weeks, or months, long enough to let your mind and body heal. Rebuild a positive outlook. Return with a renewed respect for coexistence, peace, and progress. It will improve not only the quality of this forum, but also the quality of our own lives.
I’m sure you’re perfectly fine with Butt and Fakhar.I think parents need to be very careful how they name their kids.
Take Pant for example. I mean if your surname is Pant, why the heck would you name him something rhymes with rishabh with a P. Same thing with Surya - I mean what kind of name is that anyway?
Can’t help with thatWhat is the quote? What is the context?
It’s *** for tat. Can’t just sit here and listen to Indians make such comments every now and then and not give it back.Lol, where did I condone any of those comments?
OTOH, you are passionately justifying Yohanna's crass language
It is not *** for tat. They spewed venom against Indian PM and government all the time and get it out of their system. Technically, they are not politicians or diplomats but they do it on air anyways . No one cares but it is what it is.It’s *** for tat. Can’t just sit here and listen to Indians make such comments every now and then and not give it back.
There’s a limit to everything. So after all that has been said towards Pak players, it’s only fair they give it back
You don’t define what can be considered as an appropriate response. There are no guidelines for that.It is not *** for tat. They spewed venom against Indian PM and government all the time and get it out of their system. Technically, they are not politicians or diplomats but they do it on air anyways . No one cares but it is what it is.
He attacked a player personally. *** for tat would be if Sky called Yusuf a derogatory name. Won’t be hard to do but he didn’t so no it’s not the definition of *** for tat.
Yeah you got a cheap thrill and a chuckle of it. That’s fair. However it is borderline embarrassing someone defending or money balancing this![]()
Pak cricketers always make racist statements and attack religion. It’s nothing in comparison to what Indian players have said.As I said, Indian ex cricketers have been pushing it for a very very long time. Recently, they’ve gone overboard.
When Pak players make dumb statements, they apologize for them too. Example, Waqar Younis and Razzaq incident. Can’t say the same about Indians.Pak cricketers always make racist statements and attack religion. It’s nothing in comparison to what Indian players have said.
Sohail Tanvir, Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Razzaq , Shoaib Akthar etc etc- all culprits . you want proofs? since either you are lazy or technically challenged to look it up to even make a point.
Irfan attacked Afridi as it’s a personal issue. That’s about it.
Rest have spoken about terrorism etc in Pak which is a fact but nothing against people or religion.
As I said you have nothing here to call it fairit’s just you liked the abuse. As I said I have no control over that. It is on you.
When Pak players make dumb statements, they apologize for them too. Example, Waqar Younis and Razzaq incident. Can’t say the same about Indians.
It’s a fact that Sehwag came up with the whole “baap” story. It’s a fact that Sehwag said Akhtar only praises India to get money (talk about being so hateful that you can’t even accept praise) and it’s a fact that Irfan, unprovoked, called Afridi a barking dog and a badtameez insaan.
So, whatever Yousaf has said is in response to multiple such comments from the Indian side. *** for tat
You can analyze me all you want, doesn’t make it a fact.
He said, what he said…Yes same goes for that PIG I guess then.. Humiliation for that pig getting compared???
Is that what you are saying???
Please complete the sentence… afridi had insulted his ethnicity a decade ago? Why bring it up now without any cause? As I said, Indians were going overboard recently and had to be responded to. Simple.Irfan called out Afridi because Afridi had insulted his ethnicity, lineage, parents.
Calling some one a “dog” is actually not a bad thing for that here. Based on how much affinity you have for abusive words, I am sure you would reacted much more strongly if someone had insulted your family. I would.
If one has right to refuse handshakes then other has right to call one whatever they want.So refusing to shake hands results in being called a pig? Hmm good to know.
The problem here is that he is a current-cricketer. You can't use politics on national sports meet. The irony is that Surya Kumar (a free wheeling tattooed Hindu) preaches and practices Hinduism.The problem here is that he is an ex-cricketer. You can't use gutter level language on national TV. The irony is that Mo Yousuf ( A converted Muslim) preaches and practice Islam.
On the other hand, Fans, Media or Youtubers abuse 24x 7 on social media. That doesn't matter. They have an audience to cater on both sides.
Read it once and instantly thought of @uppercut, some things just reek too familiar.Pakistani players should learn how to engage in banter, any paindu can mouth off a bunch of street insults lol.
That's not a very hard thing to do.
MoYo was an elegant batsman. He could coach youngsters in batting. Yes, now he is probably blabbering for clicks.I was never a fan of moyo. Actually the only Pakistani player I liked was shoaib akthar and wasim somewhat. I do like fakhar zaman in the modern era. I do not like shoaib or wasim the person but I do rate them as cricketers for their skill although shoaib is a bit overrated anyway.
After moyo retired, I couldn’t care less about his coaching career. Yes he is a try hard it appears. Doing a good job for some click bait. Good for his publicity but he may not get an anchor role
I would say being called PIG is an insult for anyone. Not just Hindus. Not because PIG is hated or anything but it is generally associated with dirt, ugliness, being fat etc.Of course, I am not based in India or an Indian and I understand the outrage for mangling someone's name like that, but I do have some questions:
1. Is being called a "pig" an insult to Hindus? I know it is for Muslims as the meat of the animal is forbidden for them. Some even use "pig" to tease/abuse Muslims or name of Pakistan is mangled as "pork....." in India etc
2. Would a non-Hindi/Urdu speaker be hurt by this word? (Remember Inzi being called Mota Aalloo and when I explained the meaning to a Western colleague he said so what? (Fat Potatoe!!!???)
3. Was it the way MoYo said it which was so disturbing?