[VIDEO] Kashmir crowd shouting Boom Boom Afridi at MS Dhoni when he attended a cricket tournament

[m.shah]

Lol Dhoni was welcomed with chants of boom boom afridi here in the stadium.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crowds shouting Boom Boom Afridi at MS Dhoni when he attended a cricket tournament sponsored by the Indian army in north Kashmir <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/lc2rFpxnGJ">pic.twitter.com/lc2rFpxnGJ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/934841381746561024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Abdullah719]

is loved everywhere

 

[DRsohail]

shows that lala is still so famous.

 

[Golden arm]

More than love it's a political statement.
Kashmiris simply stating who they are with and where their hearts are!

 

[Golden arm]

For a man of dhoni''s calibre it's quite a low moment.
To be fair he would ve been coerced into it by patriotism.

 

[Railu Katta]

wait till one particular "Pakistani" poster comes here and adds his 2 cents :

 

[troodon]

For a man of dhoni''s calibre it's quite a low moment.
To be fair he would ve been coerced into it by patriotism.

Awkward moment for MS Dhoni.

 

[pillionrider]

In a popularity toss up, Afridi would win easily in Kashmir vs any Indian cricketer. Would be a different story in Jammu though

As far as the video goes, I prefer to not focus on the raucous 10 or 15 but instead on the huge crowd who have turned up there, excited like teenagers, mobile phones out, to catch a glimpse of a cricketing hero and legend

 

[MenInG]

Am sure Dhoni was amused.

International cricketers have great relationships, only big deal for politicians

 

[Madplayer]

In a popularity toss up, Afridi would win easily in Kashmir vs any Indian cricketer. Would be a different story in Jammu though

As far as the video goes, I prefer to not focus on the raucous 10 or 15 but instead on the huge crowd who have turned up there, excited like teenagers, mobile phones out, to catch a glimpse of a cricketing hero and legend

You mean the little Jammu city. Not the entire Jammu province. The chenab valley with many Jammu districts would cheer for Lala too.

 

[Madplayer]

Dhoni shouldn't mind this. Kashmiris respect him and he is a hero for all cricketing fans. He is a great person as well. He has a big fanbase in Kashmir as well.

 

[Tabishbeigh]

They started shouting "Boom Boom Afridi" only after they were not allowed to go close to him.prior to that everyone could hear people chanting Dhoni's name. It was so lame to shout Boom Boom .

 

[m.shah]

Dhoni is also loved here but the fact he came here as a representative of Indian army did not go well with many. I am sure if this event had not linked with politics he would have enjoyed our hospitality and not felt such awkwardness.

 

[aniket1911]

Quite disrespecting for a player of dhoni's stature. But hey! it's kashmir, can't expect much adulation from them anyway.

 

[waleed88]

No big deal. Cricketers are loved and admired all over the world. You might see some Dhoni fans in Azad Jammu and Kashmir too.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Political statement.

Kohli and Dhoni are admired a lot by many Pakistani's, Kashmiri's from what i have seen in FB/ Twitter.

 

[kaayal]

They love Dhoni. Otherwise they wouldn't have come to see him and chant his name like this.

 

[hisham_ashraf]

We Kashmiris have always had a soft corner for Pakistan,imagine Imran Khan or Afridi come here in Kashmir.I can assure you people will go out of control as the love for these sort of people is just infinite but when someone like Dhoni comes in,people just come to see a person who is well known across the globe.It doesn't mean we hate MS.

 

[Madplayer]

They love Dhoni. Otherwise they wouldn't have come to see him and chant his name like this.

Dhoni chants were to show him we welcome him and respect him as a cricketer.

Lala chants were to make a political statement.

 

[Suleiman]

Afridi transcends sovereign borders and social norms. If you have not deduced that by now then you don't know who or what Afridi is. He has recently bought out a town in Texas.

 

[kaayal]

Dhoni chants were to show him we welcome him and respect him as a cricketer.

Lala chants were to make a political statement.

Looks difficult to welcome him with all the army personnels around him.

Will Virat Kohli get the same reception in Kashmir?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Poor MSD got trolled here.

He should have skype-called Afridi to calm the masses

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Afridi transcends sovereign borders and social norms. If you have not deduced that by now then you don't know who or what Afridi is. He has recently bought out a town in Texas.

Really?

That's surprising

 

[DRsohail]

yes looks more of a poltical things.

 

[Madplayer]

Looks difficult to welcome him with all the army personnels around him.

Will Virat Kohli get the same reception in Kashmir?

I think people here hated Kohli because of his antics early on but he has grown on to people now. Everybody admits he is a genius batsman and have respect for him.

Kashmiris welcome everyone as a guest but try to make sure a wrong political message isnt sent out. India has been guilty of using kindness and hospitality of Kashmiris and presenting it as something entirely different. People are wary of this now.

The only non-political guest who received flak in Kashmir in recent times is Adnan Sami due to his vitriol on twitter.

 

[Madplayer]

Really?

That's surprising

He has not bought a town. Just a town was named after him i think lol

 

[kaayal]

I think people here hated Kohli because of his antics early on but he has grown on to people now. Everybody admits he is a genius batsman and have respect for him.

Kashmiris welcome everyone as a guest but try to make sure a wrong political message isnt sent out. India has been guilty of using kindness and hospitality of Kashmiris and presenting it as something entirely different. People are wary of this now.

The only non-political guest who received flak in Kashmir in recent times is Adnan Sami due to his vitriol on twitter.

Eventhough they doesn't want to show it out to media, It's good to know what they feel about Dhoni/ Virat and other non political Indians.

Tbh, i didn't expect any admiration for anything Indian from there.

 

[Madplayer]

Tbh, i didn't expect any admiration for anything Indian from there.

It is certainly not like that. Things heat up only when they become political. Come here as a guest and dont talk anything political to a Kashmiri and he will make you feel like the most important person in the world. I couldnt care less if my guest is from India or America, my sole aim is to be the best host i can. You might think i am exaggerating but you need to experience it to believe it.

 

[Yatoo]

It is certainly not like that. Things heat up only when they become political. Come here as a guest and dont talk anything political to a Kashmiri and he will make you feel like the most important person in the world. I couldnt care less if my guest is from India or America, my sole aim is to be the best host i can. You might think i am exaggerating but you need to experience it to believe it.

Plus, we don't invite anyone on tea

It's always a heavy lunch or dinner or both and overnight stay

 

[kaayal]

It is certainly not like that. Things heat up only when they become political. Come here as a guest and dont talk anything political to a Kashmiri and he will make you feel like the most important person in the world. I couldnt care less if my guest is from India or America, my sole aim is to be the best host i can. You might think i am exaggerating but you need to experience it to believe it.

Plus, we don't invite anyone on tea

It's always a heavy lunch or dinner or both and overnight stay

Thanks.

that would be one hell of a journey from Kerala to Kashmir.

 

[m.shah]

Thanks.

that would be one hell of a journey from Kerala to Kashmir.

You are most welcome bro.. Recently my friend from Kerala visited here and he enjoyed a lot.
We always wanted political solution to kashmir as promised by India but tht doesn't mean we hate every Indian.
And Bdw Kohli is my favorite cricketer if he visits kashmir someday I will surely met him.

 

[JattMaula]

Lala is eternal and Lala is omnipresent.

 

[Axeman]

Dhoni is an honorary member of the Indian Army. The same army that Kashmiris despise. So, Kashmiris booing Dhoni was inevitable.

 

[pkwdpassion]

No secret Kashmiris are mad fans of Afridi, and Afridi reciprocates them like a pathan not caring about hurting Indian ego.

Have never liked Afridi but he has a 'mad following' across Pakistan and around the world. Have personally witnessed it twice,. once back in 2004/05 attending a match in Natl. Stadium where most of the spectators just came with posters of Afridi chanting howling like crazy, it felt only Afridi fans bought tickets just to watch him.
Happened next in Palekelle , Sri Lanka with local Sri Lankan fans carrying placards devoted to him. I asked one who couldspeak Hindi/Urdu a bit, they came from very distant places , like from northwestern Sri Lankan coast just to watch Afridi.

It was WT20 2007 covered by Star Sports, the Anchors went into the crowd asking who they are routing for, they just asked a random South African girl she replied eff-ree-dee irritating Indians in the studio expecting some other or indian name. They continued to make fun of the girls pronouncing afridi's name in a vile manner.

India[minus IOK] itself has more fans of Afridi after Pakistan than other countries which is sacrilege/anti-national for many of them lol.

Sadly he unlike Imran Khan could'nt replicate the adulation and fandom to contribute positively for Pakistan cricket. Kept good ties with the media by leaking them inside information and work for his own brand value. Weak Pakistan team also worked in his favor, and many in places like india pre-Champions TRophy only knew him as Pakistan Team.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

What do you expect when you go into Pakistani territory.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

No secret Kashmiris are mad fans of Afridi, and Afridi reciprocates them like a pathan not caring about hurting Indian ego.

Have never liked Afridi but he has a 'mad following' across Pakistan and around the world. Have personally witnessed it twice,. once back in 2004/05 attending a match in Natl. Stadium where most of the spectators just came with posters of Afridi chanting howling like crazy, it felt only Afridi fans bought tickets just to watch him.
Happened next in Palekelle , Sri Lanka with local Sri Lankan fans carrying placards devoted to him. I asked one who couldspeak Hindi/Urdu a bit, they came from very distant places , like from northwestern Sri Lankan coast just to watch Afridi.

It was WT20 2007 covered by Star Sports, the Anchors went into the crowd asking who they are routing for, they just asked a random South African girl she replied eff-ree-dee irritating Indians in the studio expecting some other or indian name. They continued to make fun of the girls pronouncing afridi's name in a vile manner.

India[minus IOK] itself has more fans of Afridi after Pakistan than other countries which is sacrilege/anti-national for many of them lol.

Sadly he unlike Imran Khan could'nt replicate the adulation and fandom to contribute positively for Pakistan cricket. Kept good ties with the media by leaking them inside information and work for his own brand value. Weak Pakistan team also worked in his favor, and many in places like india pre-Champions TRophy only knew him as Pakistan Team.

Just to add a few things:
He's always tonked Indian trundler brigade, Kumble and their offies. Be it tests/ODIs. Since time immemorial. That might be another reason for his popularity in India.

 

[ManFan]

Never understood the insane popularity of sportsmen but at least Afridi does a lot of charity work.

 

[emranabbas]

Boom boom afridi

 

[Square Drive]

What do you expect when you go into Pakistani territory.

Basically this.

OUR Kashmir. @GautamGambhir

 

[Indiafan]

Just to add a few things:
He's always tonked Indian trundler brigade, Kumble and their offies. Be it tests/ODIs. Since time immemorial. That might be another reason for his popularity in India.

lmao at always. He had one Kanpur test and one asia cup 2 fluke sixes. He was a sitting bunny for indian bowlers most of his career. This is trump level lying

 

[Indiafan]

What do you expect when you go into Pakistani territory.

Basically this.

OUR Kashmir. @GautamGambhir

mungeri lal ke haseen sapne. And i am the leader of the free world.

Trying to annexe another territory when you cant even have teams visting you is the most pathetic thing ever. I am sure you have plenty of problems of your own without trying to act as a savior for others

 

[cricketjoshila]

mungeri lal ke haseen sapne. And i am the leader of the free world.

Trying to annexe another territory when you cant even have teams visting you is the most pathetic thing ever. I am sure you have plenty of problems of your own without trying to act as a savior for others

Did you hear Zakir Musa chants? Wonder who is he? A Al-Qaida terrorist. But but but these are freedom fighters and this has nothing to do with religion.

 

[Mirpur express]

Quite disrespecting for a player of dhoni's stature. But hey! it's kashmir, can't expect much adulation from them anyway.

Of course !! Surely the organisers & Dhoni himself would have known what’ was coming .. adulation lol

 

[Adijazz1706]

Did you hear Zakir Musa chants? Wonder who is he? A Al-Qaida terrorist. But but but these are freedom fighters and this has nothing to do with religion.

Why would it not be about religion? Gandhi used Hinduism then and Modi is using it now. Pakistan's creation is based on religion

 

[UN talkz]

Did you hear Zakir Musa chants? Wonder who is he? A Al-Qaida terrorist. But but but these are freedom fighters and this has nothing to do with religion.

Yes and hence all killings, just kill them as if they are dogs.
Lol even dogs get more rights than Kashmiris.
That Kangan boy who was killed 3 days ago, was he also chanting name of terrorist. Lol

U can justify everything with all this rubbish.

But what about Kunan-Poshpora mass rape by Army, any justification for that.

Indian govt. has nothing to do with kashmiris, they just care for Kashmir- The land

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why would it not be about religion? Gandhi used Hinduism then and Modi is using it now. Pakistan's creation is based on religion

Gandhi used Hinduism? Ok.

Good that you accepted that Kashmir is a religious issue and not a political one and thats why Pandits were killed and thrown out. No wonder the world knows this and doesnot support this religious terrorism.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes and hence all killings, just kill them as if they are dogs.
Lol even dogs get more rights than Kashmiris.
That Kangan boy who was killed 3 days ago, was he also chanting name of terrorist. Lol

U can justify everything with all this rubbish.

But what about Kunan-Poshpora mass rape by Army, any justification for that.

Indian govt. has nothing to do with kashmiris, they just care for Kashmir- The land

Why was there no AFSPA before 1990? Why the Army needed to be called in? Who killed and threw out the Pandits? People brainwashed by a neighbouring state, whose army itself failed to take whole of Kashmir from India, took arms and killed hindus.

They thought they were some islamic superpower and make J and K with 35% non muslims into a islamic state. Sikander Butshikan part 2 will be unleashed.

This religious terrorism wont succeed. This isnt a struggle of Kashmiris but only a terrorism of some sunni muslim kashmiris.

 

[UN talkz]

Why was there no AFSPA before 1990? Why the Army needed to be called in? Who killed and threw out the Pandits? People brainwashed by a neighbouring state, whose army itself failed to take whole of Kashmir from India, took arms and killed hindus.

They thought they were some islamic superpower and make J and K with 35% non muslims into a islamic state. Sikander Butshikan part 2 will be unleashed.

This religious terrorism wont succeed. This isnt a struggle of Kashmiris but only a terrorism of some sunni muslim kashmiris.

First of all Joshila bhai u haven't answered my query. U wisely choose not to answer Kunan-Poshpora mass rape incident.

Coming to your post, every Kashmiri (muslim or non-muslim) is gutted bcz of what happened with Pandit brethren here; yes a few misguided people amongst Kashmiris took that step although everyone knows the role the then Governer Jagmohan played in ensuring that Pandits are removed from Kashmir. Kashmiris are still in contact with Pandits and no one has ever said that muslims were responsible for their exit. Kashmiris wush that they come back to their homeland. Still 8000 pandits live in kashmir and they have never conplained and there are few Pandits who are also part of Hurriyat Conference.

A Kashmiri Pandit was business partner of my Grandfather and then his son and my father continued the business and ut is till running and we dont have any complaints despite the fact that we didnt knew about our partner for 3 years after KP's left Kashmir in 89. Business is still strong and relation is even more stronger.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Gandhi used Hinduism? Ok.

Good that you accepted that Kashmir is a religious issue and not a political one and thats why Pandits were killed and thrown out. No wonder the world knows this and doesnot support this religious terrorism.

An issue can be religious AND political simultaneously, the dalit agitation is another example of that. Also,
State terrorism has caused far more harm than any other form of terrorism

 

[hisham_ashraf]

Why was there no AFSPA before 1990? Why the Army needed to be called in? Who killed and threw out the Pandits? People brainwashed by a neighbouring state, whose army itself failed to take whole of Kashmir from India, took arms and killed hindus.

They thought they were some islamic superpower and make J and K with 35% non muslims into a islamic state. Sikander Butshikan part 2 will be unleashed.

This religious terrorism wont succeed. This isnt a struggle of Kashmiris but only a terrorism of some sunni muslim kashmiris.

Well what made you say that?I mean how can you tell that Kashmir isn't a struggle of Kashmiris but only a terrorism of some Sunni Muslim KASHMIRIS?Do you live here in Kashmir,I guess no?The voter turnout last year was less than 7%,and the one guy who went to vote was tied infront of a jeep.Everyone knows that India wants KASHMIR not the KASHMIRIS,well we can't blame you because you must have learnt about the K-issue through your media,so well it's not your fault Sir!Do watch a documentary named Inshallah Kashmir on YouTube to know the other side of the story

 

[UN talkz]

Well what made you say that?I mean how can you tell that Kashmir isn't a struggle of Kashmiris but only a terrorism of some Sunni Muslim KASHMIRIS?Do you live here in Kashmir,I guess no?The voter turnout last year was less than 7%,and the one guy who went to vote was tied infront of a jeep.Everyone knows that India wants KASHMIR not the KASHMIRIS,well we can't blame you because you must have learnt about the K-issue through your media,so well it's not your fault Sir!Do watch a documentary named Inshallah Kashmir on YouTube to know the other side of the story

Or simply look at the statements given the by kashmir interlocutors appointed by GoI (not kashmiris), in 2016 BJP sent their own man Yashwant Sinha, just have a look at his statements and pressers or look at summaries written by all interlocutors appointed by GoI since 2008.

These guys also used to say same thing which whole Indian media is feeding to its people, but when they visited kashmir and actually saw what tyrany Kashmiris are facing, they melted.

 

[hisham_ashraf]

Or simply look at the statements given the by kashmir interlocutors appointed by GoI (not kashmiris), in 2016 BJP sent their own man Yashwant Sinha, just have a look at his statements and pressers or look at summaries written by all interlocutors appointed by GoI since 2008.

These guys also used to say same thing which whole Indian media is feeding to its people, but when they visited kashmir and actually saw what tyrany Kashmiris are facing, they melted.

Indeed and actually most of the people just don't know about this issue but they act as if they know everything and have seen the situation in Kashmir themselves.If they would come here and live with us for a year,I bet they will also start to protest against India.

 

[aniket1911]

Of course !! Surely the organisers & Dhoni himself would have known what’ was coming .. adulation lol

Since you are an Indian kashmiri**, I will bite.

If you are done with your raucous lolling, try to understand a thing called respect, ever heard of what it is?

If kashmiris are true cricket fan, they wouldn't have tried to dis the player who has won a WC, WT20 and CT for their own country by chanting a player name who is several rungs below him as player. You see, Dhoni does warrant adulation in his own country wherever he goes.

But this doesn't surprise me at all, kashmiri Muslims are the most venal bunch in India and are easily misguided. But no qualms as you are our Indian brothers and are just angry with us, that is all, Gharwapsi has been a long time coming and I have prescience that sooner or later you guys will see the light and come to realise how lucky you are to be part of this great nation called India.

Cue any patriotic song or even bollywood's O' nadaan parinde, ghar aa ja... would do.

**in case you not Indian kashmiri which I'm really sure you are, and poking your nose between what doesn't concern you as it's our country and our conflicts then here's an alternative response to your extenuating lolling to what can be considered a serious disrespect to our legend,

Chal nikal!

 

[aniket1911]

Indeed and actually most of the people just don't know about this issue but they act as if they know everything and have seen the situation in Kashmir themselves. If they would come here and live with us for a year, I bet they will also start to protest against India.

Pilgrimage visits are fine but for a year? No thanks, after what you guys did to kashmiri pandits, I am really skeptical about your hospitality, especially towards other religions but I will surely take that risk someday as we are all Indians after all. Much love brother.

 

[hisham_ashraf]

Pilgrimage visits are fine but for a year? No thanks, after what you guys did to kashmiri pandits, I am really skeptical about your hospitality, especially towards other religions but I will surely take that risk someday as we are all Indians after all. Much love brother.

Listen,you haven't come across Kashmir and yet you are saying that we don't welcome tourists well,I guess you are influenced way too much by the Indian media.Go and talk to any tourist who has visited Kashmir and I am sure you will only hear good things about our hospitality.Infact it's the Kashmiri students studying in India who have to face a lot of trouble ,they are the ones who are targeted for being a Kashmiri.
After all we are KASHMIRIS and we would like to welcome any tourist to Kashmir,be it an Indian or a Dutch.

 

[aniket1911]

Listen,you haven't come across Kashmir and yet you are saying that we don't welcome tourists well,I guess you are influenced way too much by the Indian media.Go and talk to any tourist who has visited Kashmir and I am sure you will only hear good things about our hospitality.Infact it's the Kashmiri students studying in India who have to face a lot of trouble ,they are the ones who are targeted for being a Kashmiri.
After all we are KASHMIRIS and we would like to welcome any tourist to Kashmir,be it an Indian or a Dutch.

Don't say 'we kashmiris', you are studying in your own county, it's as much yours as it's mine.

Regarding the rest, going to join IIM Jammu soon so will get to interact with lots of kashmiris and will visit srinagar too, hoping to make some kashmiri friend and understand the situation better.

 

[rhony]

Lol. Obviously to do with Afridi's recent tweet. Dhoni probably had a smile through all of this. Nice and balanced guy

 

[hisham_ashraf]

Don't say 'we kashmiris', you are studying in your own county, it's as much yours as it's mine.

Regarding the rest, going to join IIM Jammu soon so will get to interact with lots of kashmiris and will visit srinagar too, hoping to make some kashmiri friend and understand the situation better.

No matter how much you deny it but the truth is that no Kashmiri accepts India as his country, regarding the rest I wish you all the luck and hope that you will have a great time in Jammu.I study in NIT Srinagar and the outsiders just like you used to say that Kashmir is a part of India but now they themselve say that they are Indians and we are not.Again all the best for your future bro

 

[cricketjoshila]

First of all Joshila bhai u haven't answered my query. U wisely choose not to answer Kunan-Poshpora mass rape incident.

Coming to your post, every Kashmiri (muslim or non-muslim) is gutted bcz of what happened with Pandit brethren here; yes a few misguided people amongst Kashmiris took that step although everyone knows the role the then Governer Jagmohan played in ensuring that Pandits are removed from Kashmir. Kashmiris are still in contact with Pandits and no one has ever said that muslims were responsible for their exit. Kashmiris wush that they come back to their homeland. Still 8000 pandits live in kashmir and they have never conplained and there are few Pandits who are also part of Hurriyat Conference.

A Kashmiri Pandit was business partner of my Grandfather and then his son and my father continued the business and ut is till running and we dont have any complaints despite the fact that we didnt knew about our partner for 3 years after KP's left Kashmir in 89. Business is still strong and relation is even more stronger.

Let me state this once again, i do not support any human rights abuses. Whoever was responsible for the incident needs to be punished.

Pandits were driven out because of their religion. Thats the thing. Less than 10% of Pandits live in Kashmir today. People who did all this to them are your freedom fighters. Think about it, are they really freedom fighters?

Its great to hear that people like your family still exist. There are others as well. My friend returned to Srinagar couple of years back to look at her house she left one midnight in a tanker in 1990. Her family left because they were told to either leave or convert or die. The local breadwala,she called him Kandoor? recognised her father and invited them in.The local barber still had the pic of her father and other pandit friends of his pinned to the wall.This is from horse's mouth. But are there enough to protect them, to stand up for them? No one did in 1990.

Tell me how many of these freedom fighters come from Hindu,Sikh,Buddhist and Shia community? They still make up 35 to 40% of population of J and K.

Btw i have always supported for more autonomy to J and K.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well what made you say that?I mean how can you tell that Kashmir isn't a struggle of Kashmiris but only a terrorism of some Sunni Muslim KASHMIRIS?Do you live here in Kashmir,I guess no?The voter turnout last year was less than 7%,and the one guy who went to vote was tied infront of a jeep.Everyone knows that India wants KASHMIR not the KASHMIRIS,well we can't blame you because you must have learnt about the K-issue through your media,so well it's not your fault Sir!Do watch a documentary named Inshallah Kashmir on YouTube to know the other side of the story

How many of these "freedom fighters" come from Hindu Buddhists Shia or Sikh communities of J and K?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indeed and actually most of the people just don't know about this issue but they act as if they know everything and have seen the situation in Kashmir themselves.If they would come here and live with us for a year,I bet they will also start to protest against India.

If we come to live with you, will you stand up for us againist the freedom fighters?

 

[Kashmirilion]

Pilgrimage visits are fine but for a year? No thanks, after what you guys did to kashmiri pandits, I am really skeptical about your hospitality, especially towards other religions but I will surely take that risk someday as we are all Indians after all. Much love brother.

How about what you "guys" done to Muslims in Gujarat and Sikhs in 1984??

 

[troodon]

If Kashmir issue was purely political or aspirations of people with no ounce of religious influence, then I can understand. But this is clearly religiously motivated issue.

If Kashmir issue was not religiously motivated, then Pandits would not be killed and driven out of Kashmir and even Hindu Kashmiris would be supporting Pakistan. But Hindu Kashmiris are 100% Indian supporting group.

No country would support this religiously motivated partition again. This means any country with a sizable Muslim population in an area would support Kashmir freedom or Kashmir joining Pak as this would be asking for trouble in the future.

 

[hisham_ashraf]

How many of these "freedom fighters" come from Hindu Buddhists Shia or Sikh communities of J and K?

What are you trying to prive by saying this and how is this is an answer to what I wrote.

 

[hisham_ashraf]

If we come to live with you, will you stand up for us againist the freedom fighters?

Militants are fighting against the army not the people,they do not harm any local or foreigner,their fight is just against the Army,but if anyone of them harms innocent people then yes I will stand up for you. Humanity comes first.No one wants to see violence,all we want is peace and that peace can't come when you have CRPF/Army/Police standing next to your door.I actually would like to ask you one question,do you support AFSPA or do you think it should be removed?

 

[UN talkz]

Let me state this once again, i do not support any human rights abuses. Whoever was responsible for the incident needs to be punished.

Pandits were driven out because of their religion. Thats the thing. Less than 10% of Pandits live in Kashmir today. People who did all this to them are your freedom fighters. Think about it, are they really freedom fighters?

Its great to hear that people like your family still exist. There are others as well. My friend returned to Srinagar couple of years back to look at her house she left one midnight in a tanker in 1990. Her family left because they were told to either leave or convert or die. The local breadwala,she called him Kandoor? recognised her father and invited them in.The local barber still had the pic of her father and other pandit friends of his pinned to the wall.This is from horse's mouth. But are there enough to protect them, to stand up for them? No one did in 1990.

Tell me how many of these freedom fighters come from Hindu,Sikh,Buddhist and Shia community? They still make up 35 to 40% of population of J and K.

Btw i have always supported for more autonomy to J and K.

That's great to know.

First thing that needs to be ensured is that human rights violations need to stop and then everything else will follow.
Just look at no. Of civilians killed in last 10 years, nothing like that has happened in any state of India despite people coming out on streets in larger numbers against govt. for several reasons.

Also u have a serious misconception, youth(or generally people) in Kashmir don't believe that Gun will bring any solution, yes there is a very small minority which believes in that theory but the no. is very small and most of the guys join militant organisations bcz of torture they and their families have faced over the years. No one believes guns will bring any solution, You can confirm this with other Kashmiri guys here.

And most importantly to your above query, we are ready to welcome our pandit brethren back home and will protect them at any cost, it is not only me whoz saying this, whole Kashmir has same sentiments.

Let me share an incident; during 2016 when Kashmir was bleeding and more than 150 innocent people were killed, a bus carrying Amarnath pilgrims met with an accident in Anantnag(yes Anantnag which is regarded as bedrock of militancy and every youth there is called as terrorist by Indian Media) as driver collided with a stone. 6 security force buses, 3 ahead of the bus carrying pilgrims and 3 behind it, all of them ran away and didn't even care about 45 odd pilgrims who were in the bus which met with an accident, an army camp was at walking distance from the accident location but no one from them came to rescue of accident victims, then the same youth who u say are threat for Pandits came to rescue, took pilgrims to the hospital and then to their homes and also then arranged transport for them to go to Amarnath Shrine.

Problem is that Indian National media never reported it and instead Times Now channel reported a fake news saying Bus carrying pilgrims was attacked by Stone pelters after which (surprisingly) JK govt filed a defamation case against news channel(although the news channel was never fined and no action was taken). Few days ago also, almost every news channel reported that some foriegn tourists were attacked by stone pelters in one of the Mughal Gardens and that news was fake as well with our CM finally gathering some courage and coming out of cowardice and lashing out at Media.

You must understand that Kashmiris aren't the problem, the fake propagandist Media is real culprit. Hope u visit Kashmir in future and get to know what actually problem is.

 

[hisham_ashraf]

That's great to know.

First thing that needs to be ensured is that human rights violations need to stop and then everything else will follow.
Just look at no. Of civilians killed in last 10 years, nothing like that has happened in any state of India despite people coming out on streets in larger numbers against govt. for several reasons.

Also u have a serious misconception, youth(or generally people) in Kashmir don't believe that Gun will bring any solution, yes there is a very small minority which believes in that theory but the no. is very small and most of the guys join militant organisations bcz of torture they and their families have faced over the years. No one believes guns will bring any solution, You can confirm this with other Kashmiri guys here.

And most importantly to your above query, we are ready to welcome our pandit brethren back home and will protect them at any cost, it is not only me whoz saying this, whole Kashmir has same sentiments.

Let me share an incident; during 2016 when Kashmir was bleeding and more than 150 innocent people were killed, a bus carrying Amarnath pilgrims met with an accident in Anantnag(yes Anantnag which is regarded as bedrock of militancy and every youth there is called as terrorist by Indian Media) as driver collided with a stone. 6 security force buses, 3 ahead of the bus carrying pilgrims and 3 behind it, all of them ran away and didn't even care about 45 odd pilgrims who were in the bus which met with an accident, an army camp was at walking distance from the accident location but no one from them came to rescue of accident victims, then the same youth who u say are threat for Pandits came to rescue, took pilgrims to the hospital and then to their homes and also then arranged transport for them to go to Amarnath Shrine.

Problem is that Indian National media never reported it and instead Times Now channel reported a fake news saying Bus carrying pilgrims was attacked by Stone pelters after which (surprisingly) JK govt filed a defamation case against news channel(although the news channel was never fined and no action was taken). Few days ago also, almost every news channel reported that some foriegn tourists were attacked by stone pelters in one of the Mughal Gardens and that news was fake as well with our CM finally gathering some courage and coming out of cowardice and lashing out at Media.

You must understand that Kashmiris aren't the problem, the fake propagandist Media is real culprit. Hope u visit Kashmir in future and get to know what actually problem is.

Brilliantly written this,the media is very negative,be it India Today,Times Now, Republic TV, CNN News they all are a big joke when it comes to reporting about Kashmir.They have never shown anything positive about Kashmiri youth.They keep on misleading the people of India.Yes we do believe that gun will bring no solution,those who take up guns are forced due to the situations.

 

[aniket1911]

No matter how much you deny it but the truth is that no Kashmiri accepts India as his country, regarding the rest I wish you all the luck and hope that you will have a great time in Jammu.I study in NIT Srinagar and the outsiders just like you used to say that Kashmir is a part of India but now they themselve say that they are Indians and we are not.Again all the best for your future bro

That might happen in your college but such isn't the case in my institution, I have been intimated regarding the same by an adcomm.

Thanks for wishes bud, wish you the same for your future, may you go from highs to highs and bring laurels to INDIA. Although, I sincerely wish, you understand that you study in one of finest institute of India where many Indians would give an arm to study, a tee little bit of respect if not honest appreciation to the country which provide you such platform might go a long way. Hopefully, someday you might!

Kashmir problem is like a drunken man, who lost his key on a road but he walks 20 feets away to find it, just because there's a street light stationed there and he can see much better under the light.

How about what you "guys" done to Muslims in Gujarat and Sikhs in 1984??

Not interested in your whatabout-ism, go do your rambling elsewhere.

 

[IAJ]

Quite disrespecting for a player of dhoni's stature. But hey! it's kashmir, can't expect much adulation from them anyway.

Tou jaan chour dou unki...

 

[cricketjoshila]

Militants are fighting against the army not the people,they do not harm any local or foreigner,their fight is just against the Army,but if anyone of them harms innocent people then yes I will stand up for you. Humanity comes first.No one wants to see violence,all we want is peace and that peace can't come when you have CRPF/Army/Police standing next to your door.I actually would like to ask you one question,do you support AFSPA or do you think it should be removed?

The day armed terrorists give up the arms AFSPA should go.Army should be in the bsrracks. Kashmiris should be given internal autonomy.

Sir please read, terrorists have killed tourists and pilgrims.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's great to know.

First thing that needs to be ensured is that human rights violations need to stop and then everything else will follow.
Just look at no. Of civilians killed in last 10 years, nothing like that has happened in any state of India despite people coming out on streets in larger numbers against govt. for several reasons.

Also u have a serious misconception, youth(or generally people) in Kashmir don't believe that Gun will bring any solution, yes there is a very small minority which believes in that theory but the no. is very small and most of the guys join militant organisations bcz of torture they and their families have faced over the years. No one believes guns will bring any solution, You can confirm this with other Kashmiri guys here.

And most importantly to your above query, we are ready to welcome our pandit brethren back home and will protect them at any cost, it is not only me whoz saying this, whole Kashmir has same sentiments.

Let me share an incident; during 2016 when Kashmir was bleeding and more than 150 innocent people were killed, a bus carrying Amarnath pilgrims met with an accident in Anantnag(yes Anantnag which is regarded as bedrock of militancy and every youth there is called as terrorist by Indian Media) as driver collided with a stone. 6 security force buses, 3 ahead of the bus carrying pilgrims and 3 behind it, all of them ran away and didn't even care about 45 odd pilgrims who were in the bus which met with an accident, an army camp was at walking distance from the accident location but no one from them came to rescue of accident victims, then the same youth who u say are threat for Pandits came to rescue, took pilgrims to the hospital and then to their homes and also then arranged transport for them to go to Amarnath Shrine.

Problem is that Indian National media never reported it and instead Times Now channel reported a fake news saying Bus carrying pilgrims was attacked by Stone pelters after which (surprisingly) JK govt filed a defamation case against news channel(although the news channel was never fined and no action was taken). Few days ago also, almost every news channel reported that some foriegn tourists were attacked by stone pelters in one of the Mughal Gardens and that news was fake as well with our CM finally gathering some courage and coming out of cowardice and lashing out at Media.

You must understand that Kashmiris aren't the problem, the fake propagandist Media is real culprit. Hope u visit Kashmir in future and get to know what actually problem is.

Give up the gun.Come to the table. I am sure Kashmir can be given a lot of autonomy but not allowed to cede from India. You already have special status, more things can be added.

Armed struggle needs to stop. That will make sure that AFSPA is revoked and Army is in the barracks. The gun needs to be given up.

I do not doubt that there are many good peaceful kashmiri youths. Most of our guides during Vaishno Devi trek were muslims.

Whole Kashmir? Will the hizbul LeT JeM listen to you? Will the people who train fund and equip these guys listen to you? They have found a common ground on the basis of religion and they will not allow Hindus to live.

I do not disagree that the media had played its part in demonizing Kashmir, but there was also role of the terrorists.

Kashmiris need to condemn the role of gun not call them martyrs. Tell outsiders you can solve this with Indian govt.

 

[Kashmirilion]

Yeah thought so when truth is spoken cowards often run. [MENTION=138793]aniket1911[/MENTION]

 

[MenInG]

Give up the gun.Come to the table. I am sure Kashmir can be given a lot of autonomy but not allowed to cede from India. You already have special status, more things can be added.

Armed struggle needs to stop. That will make sure that AFSPA is revoked and Army is in the barracks. The gun needs to be given up.

I do not doubt that there are many good peaceful kashmiri youths. Most of our guides during Vaishno Devi trek were muslims.

Whole Kashmir? Will the hizbul LeT JeM listen to you? Will the people who train fund and equip these guys listen to you? They have found a common ground on the basis of religion and they will not allow Hindus to live.

I do not disagree that the media had played its part in demonizing Kashmir, but there was also role of the terrorists.

Kashmiris need to condemn the role of gun not call them martyrs. Tell outsiders you can solve this with Indian govt.

Are you saying that Kashmir struggle is a local one? surely giving up the gun comment is not directed at Pakistan? Very interesting development this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Are you saying that Kashmir struggle is a local one? surely giving up the gun comment is not directed at Pakistan? Very interesting development this.

Ofcourse it has some local support. But as even kashmiri posters say its very very limited. Thats why a large number of infiltrators are pushed in by LeT or JuD or Hizbul.

 

[waqar goraya]

The poise shown by some Kashmiri posters in this thread and their measured responses to the usual repetitive Indian ignorance is praiseworthy. They have very politely explained the situation in Kashmir despite very provocative Indian nationalism.

 

[PakLFC]

Lala is loved everywhere and Kapil asks "who is he?" Lala should consider a career in politics now

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

lmao at always. He had one Kanpur test and one asia cup 2 fluke sixes. He was a sitting bunny for indian bowlers most of his career. This is trump level lying

So run the statsguru and post his average against all nations. IIRC he averages higher against India in ODIs/Test than other nations. I could be wrong tho.

 

[Slog]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crowds shouting Boom Boom Afridi at MS Dhoni when he attended a cricket tournament sponsored by the Indian army in north Kashmir <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/lc2rFpxnGJ">pic.twitter.com/lc2rFpxnGJ</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/934841381746561024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Afridi popular on both sides of Kashmir )

 

[Nostalgic]

Trawling through Twitter, I came across a Kashmiri journalist by the name of Qadri Inzamam. The name intrigued me, so I read some of his work, and sure enough, he mentions in one article how he was born in 1992, and was named after Inzamam’s World Cup semi-final innings. During last year’s World Cup too, there were reports of babies born after Pakistan games being named not just Babar and Shaheen but Babar Azam and Shaheen Shah, lest there be any confusion as to the inspiration.

This highlights the soft power cricket posessses in our neck of the woods and the fact that we really ought to get our act together to keep this up. Then again, the Humsaaya Mulk’s supposed successes haven’t led to too many Virat Wanis or Mahendra Lones in Srinagar.