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Last 5 yeasr across formats Indian fast bowlers have outperformed everyone else. This is not even a subject anymore. Most of the comparisons are within India. If India needs overseas comparison it will be SOuth African or Windies fast bowler like Shamar Joseph
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Umran's problem is consistency, accuracy. Hence not enough wickets. Besides franchise for some reason play guys like Bhuvaneswar not Umran.
That is up to God. Hope he does well.
Always good to see tear away quicks do well. Same country or not.
Was very happy and excited to see shamar Joseph destroy Australia.
138 to 146 in tests is fast/express
150 plus is tear away quick
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Difference between Umran and Mayank
1.Umran's fastest delivery is still 1.2 KPH faster.
2. Mayank is taller.
3. Mayank has more experience in domestic cricket.
1.Umran's fastest delivery is still 1.2 KPH faster.
2. Mayank is taller.
3. Mayank has more experience in domestic cricket.
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Umran route is all hype and no show when it comes to the real game. International cricket.
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Diet plan for every individual is different. That's how it works.
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Rahul Dravid for some bizarre reason started backing trundlers as soon as he became the coach. India was nicely building a fast bowling core unit and bench strength. Slowly we started seeing guys like Mukesh, Unadkat. Akashdeep was really quick. They dropped him immediately. This whole team management anti-pace-bowling TM.
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Umran is 24. Hasn't even played 10 international games.
He was picked from tennis ball cricket by SRH.
He is now polishing his skills in domestic cricket.
That's how the system in India works.
What about measuring speed in reality? How would you do it?
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Let's see how it goes for both of these speedsters. TBH umran malik was a spray gun. Just Pace is not going to work for any bowler nowadays.
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No that is Rauf route or Shaheen route or Naseem route..
My gawd there can be so many routes when it comes to Pakistan..
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Mayank gave trials at CSK. Guess what?
They didn't even bid for him.
And the less said about Dravid the coach, the better.
Mukesh is a JV between Dravid and Ganguly.
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Umran may or may not make it. But that will not dispute the fact that he is an express fast bowler.
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Yeah he has pace. No doubts. He bowled in excess of 145+. Surely.
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OH bengal connection?
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Very few such bowlers hit the stride immediately. It is upto bowlers to take their career forward.
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Mukesh plays for Bengal in Ranji.
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145 isn't express.
But once you hit 95mph plus you are in the express catagory.
Both Umran and Mayank have done that.
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I said excess of 145+. Means he hit that pace regularly.
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Shaheen at 21 with new ball was blowing away top order of every team .This is something this dude can only dream of .lets hope he is not another Kamlesh Nagarkoti
If we believe Shaheen's official age then he was 21 in 2021. That year he averaged 41 in ODIs. In tests, he did better but played 6 tests against mighty Windies, Banglas, and Zimboks. He was just about decent in T20s.
So no, he wasn't blowing away the top order of every team.
It baffles me that Dravid isn't resigning or being removed, India hasn't won anything under him. The guy is too old school, believes in senior junior thing and so would never let go 'seniors'.
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India hardly gives debuts to 21 year olds.
Last time a 21 year old made his debut, he won India a test series in Australia. When was the last time Pakistan won a test in Australia?
We saw how well SSA bowled in Australia.
This thread is about pace, Mayank is couple of yards faster than SSA.
If you want to compare the performance of the best pakistani fast bowler to the best Indian fast bowler, go ahead and compare with Bumrah.
You can hope anything, Indian cricket doesn't function on hopes of over rivals.
Poor Nagarkoti suffered multiple back stress fractures upsetting his career.
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This T20 WC will be his last assignment.
Problem is that VVS Laxman is being touted as his replacement. So i don't have much hope.
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True. I don't why we compare our bowlers to such a rubbish attack with guys like Haris Rauf who gets smashed to the stands faster than he can bowl.
The World Cup exposed the gap between our bowlers and Pakistan's.
Proper lollypop bowlers.
Exactly.
A team not winning any icc trophy in the last 10 years should not be comparing itself with winners.
Bengali bowlers should be considered
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You won 1 tournament that you won't even get to host next year.
Your attack gets slaughtered like lambs in all formats and you kept bragging about them .
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Rauf, shaheen and naseem haven't won a single trophy, they are terrible bowlers who get smashed throughout the planet and were treated like club level trundlers in the wc and Asia cup.
They are not as big of losers like misbah though, he stands the tallest in that regard
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I don’t think they would want to demotivate and insult him like that though.
If you want to make any fast bowler feel bad about being a fast bowler and regret his decision of becoming one, compare him to Pakistani fast bowlers of today.
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Last time I checked 1 is still more than none.
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That has nothing to do with the quality of pace bowlers.
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Bowlers win you tournaments - that is an age old saying I would expect you to know.
Go back and watch the highlights of the final to see the difference between langra pace bowlers and quality fast bowlers.
I don't think a single Indian poster compared Mayank to pak phasst bowlers.... Please understand our euphoria, these are happy results of a long running experiment which started with MRF Pace Foundation.
I hope pakistan is also able to plan long term projects like this
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Nope, we don't compare our players with pakistani fast bowlers.
Why would we want to insult them?
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What happened to your quality fast bowlers in the recent World Cup ?
Pak fascination with matches that India loses is just amazing. We lost 1 match in the entire tournament, that is good cricketibg abilities - which is a result of hard work and dedication. I was actually amazed by how good our bowling was throughout the tournament irrespective of the final result. Always believe in making positive progress rather than mercurial and ill earned wins.
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The thread was about a guy named Mayank Yadav. WHere do the Pakistan bowlers come from? No more derailment of this thread, please.
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Wonder what will happen in year 2028. Will the "last 10 year " criteria be updated to 11? 
Who has compared to who? Post where he is being compared to any Pakistani?
If anything Laxman is worse.
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Pakistan fans are more rattled by Mayank's pace than PBKS batters were yesterday. The guy played just 1 match and they are already triggered with his existence.
Hey brother, I don’t know much about what diets Indian fast bowlers use. I do know quite a bit about diets in other sports so maybe this could be some information you’re interested in.
There are a ton of high level vegan athletes in strength sports. There was a very famous documentary that came out, not sure if it was also popular in Pakistan, called The Game Changers. I think there were some things afterwards which may have debunked certain points in the film, but basically the point is that you can compete at the highest level on plant based diets.
For example, I believe Djokovic now follows not just a vegetarian diet but an entirely vegan diet. Some of the best NBA players like Kyrie Irving also follow plant based diets. Same with some great NFL players. Not sure if you watch UFC, but Nate Diaz and his brother are also on plant based diets I believe. When it comes to endurance sports it’s even easier as the protein requirements are lower. Endurance athletes consume a lot of carbohydrates and those can be easily gotten from plant based sources.
Strength athletes can get protein from tofu, lentils, etc. But from my understanding many Indians are vegetarian rather than vegan so they can consume dairy sources as well. Dairy sources make it very very easy to hit protein requirements as diary sources of protein are complete sources of protein like meat is. Things like whey, milk, and yogurt make it very easy.
Overall I think there’s nothing magical about meat. Meat can be a source of high quality protein, but there are many other options for those who choose not to consume it. For the best athletes in the world who do a lot of training, more so than protein requirements, they’re focused on getting adequate carbohydrates to remain fueled for long bouts of intensive training.
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There are barely any vegans in India, almost all of them are vegetarians.
Punjab is one of the most vegetarian states in India but they still have an extremely high protein intake.
I see, thank you for the clarification.
Biggest issue stopping a lot of children in both Pakistan and India from reaching their athletic potentials is due to overall malnutrition due to poverty, not necessarily the sources of calories, but the lack of calories available all together.
Makes me very sad to think about.
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Since 2000
India has won
3 white ball ICC events and world test mace multiple times.
Pakistan has won 2 ICC White ball events.
Since 2010 its
2 events for India
1 for Pakistan
Since 2020
Neither has won any event.
Thats the decade wise performance.
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So South Africa doesn't have quality fast bowlers?
Walsh and Ambrose were not quality fast bowlers?
Pakistan isn't even on the same planet as SA in terms of fast bowling.
And WI has more ICC events win in 2010s than pakistan, as per your theory they have better fast bowlers than pakistan.
Your pace bowlers haven't taken you to a ICC WORLD CUP final in nearly 25 years.
The last pakistani fast bowler to take 200 test wickets was Waqar Younis and his debut was in 1989.
The self hype that pakistanis give to their fast bowlers is laughable.
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Wonder what will happen in year 2028. Will the "last 10 year " criteria be updated to 11?
Its not last ten years. Its as per the convenience of pakistani posters.
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They were shown their true quality.
Now wait for NZ C team to tour and the hype will begin.
We went to a T20 WC final just last year largely on the performances of Shaheen and Naseem despite Babar and Rizwan playing quite bad throughout the tournament.
After the ban of Amir and Asif, Pakistan has struggled to find consistently good fast bowlers who have been able to remain injury free but Naseem and Shaheen are quality.
Last year, Naseem was out due to injury, Shaheen was rushed back after a bad injury and not in form, and Rauf also suffered an injury immediately before the WC. Despite this, Shaheen was still our best bowler in the tournament.
Our struggle last year was more so due to our inability to find a consistently good ODI spin bowler which is clearly a necessity to perform well in India. Zampa practically kept Team Australia in the tournament by himself when their batting and pace attacks were struggling.
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Seems like a distinction that’s only being made to try to push the point you were making.
Both of them are called World Cups. Amir’s incredible bowling also helped us to win a T20 WC and a Champion’s Trophy final so think your point about the pacers still doesn’t stand.
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Amir was no great. Look up his stats.
Asif also was same just that his non rehabilitation have made pakistanis romanticize about him.
The last great pakistani fast bowler retired 20 years ago.
If you think SSA or Naseem Shah are better than Bumrah or Shami, good luck to you.
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Incorrect.
Search ICC World Cup.
The other one is T20 World Cup and was called World T20 till a few years back.
India's bowling helped it win 3 ICC trophies in 6 years.
India has regularly topped the ICC test rankings.
Look up any stats and Indian fast bowlers have outbowled pakistanis in last few years.
ICC officially lists
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Former India batter Sanjay Manjrekar expressed great excitement about the latest pace sensation unearthed in the IPL 2024, LSG’s Mayank Yadav. He made this statement during a program on a local Indian sports channel:
“India will be buzzing today. We have found the Delhi Express after the Rawalpindi Express from Pakistan. Yeah, wonderful. Yes (he knows there’s a challenge from hereon). You know the chairman of the Indian selection committee, Ajit Agarkar is a former fast bowler. He gets very excited when he sees fast-bowling talent.”
“As I was saying on air, this kind of pace doesn’t stay with you for 7-8 years. When you have got it, Pakistan used to do it in the past. Waqar Younis, for instance. You sometimes have to fast-track fast bowlers. Sometimes, it works. It’s just a format we have to decide. We can fast-track him. I know I am going far too ahead, but I was so excited seeing his pace. The slowest ball he bowled was 139 kph.”
“India will be buzzing today. We have found the Delhi Express after the Rawalpindi Express from Pakistan. Yeah, wonderful. Yes (he knows there’s a challenge from hereon). You know the chairman of the Indian selection committee, Ajit Agarkar is a former fast bowler. He gets very excited when he sees fast-bowling talent.”
“As I was saying on air, this kind of pace doesn’t stay with you for 7-8 years. When you have got it, Pakistan used to do it in the past. Waqar Younis, for instance. You sometimes have to fast-track fast bowlers. Sometimes, it works. It’s just a format we have to decide. We can fast-track him. I know I am going far too ahead, but I was so excited seeing his pace. The slowest ball he bowled was 139 kph.”
Neither are as good as Bumrah. Neither are currently as good as Shami has been. Although Shami in Test could be caught up with, it’s not like he’s set the world on fire in away Tests. Shaheen has already eclipsed Shami in T20 though. Shami’s T20 record is quite poor.
Considering both Naseem and Shaheen are 10 years younger than Shami it’s way too early to make proclamations about their careers. Plenty of cricket left to he played and plenty of balls left to be bowled.
Amir is not a great of the game but he delivered big performances in big moments and played an important role in 2 ICC trophies.
Asif was a great Test bowler and would have taken a lot of wickets.
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Mayank Yadav announced his arrival in the IPL 2024 with a sensational display of pace bowling that saw the youngster delivering the fastest ball of this year's competition
Fastest deliveries in IPL history:
Shaun Tait 157.71 kmph - 2011
Lockie Ferguson 157.3 kmph - 2022
Umran Malik 157 kmph - 2022
Anrich Nortje 156.22 kmph - 2020
Umran Malik 156 kmph - 2022
Mayank Yadav 155.8 kmph - 2024
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Speed guns are dodgy
This is a fact
Just switched onto tv and say Parthian bowl 135k's for three deliveries and then 150k...
Uh huh, yeah right
This is a fact
Just switched onto tv and say Parthian bowl 135k's for three deliveries and then 150k...
Uh huh, yeah right
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wow. That is quiet an illogical way of judging speed gun lol Ever wonder bowleer intended to bowl at that speed.
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Any speed gun where Indians clock 150 plus is dodgy.
Just like how Afridi blamed the speed guns in Australia?
Yet the Pakistani fast bowlers never clock the same speeds they clock in PSL and the. Blame the speed guns like Afridi did in Australia.
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check the speed gun plz 
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The only thing pakistan had was faster bowlers, even that is gone now. Such reaction is expected.
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This is IPL not any other low level league bro so all things are perfectly finecheck the speed gun plz
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You are setting your own criteria, my friend. The discussion was for the last 10 years, not of the 00s, 10s or 20s.
And as far as the last 10 years from 2024 is concerned, Pakistan has won one ICC trophy and India has won none. Like I said, one is more than none.
If it burns you, go get some air and maybe ice. :*
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What happened to yours in ICC events in the last 10 years? If finals are the end all be all standard, then Pakistan has played several too - but I'm talking about wins. And India has zilch.
Go burn, baby. :*
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For what it's worth, I think the speed guns are legit and I'm genuinely excited to see this guy bowl. Unfortunately, express bowlers have a tendency to get injured early in their careers. Case in point is Hasnain from Pakistan - very likeable lad who easily bowled 155 KPH several times in his short career but injuries have slowed him down. Still super fast but not express anymore.
Hope Yadav can avoid injuries. Will benefit from not playing Mickey Mouse leagues outside of IPL so thats the good news.
Hope Yadav can avoid injuries. Will benefit from not playing Mickey Mouse leagues outside of IPL so thats the good news.
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just like your trundlers who struggled to bowl above 135 kmp in the wc and ausAnother speed gun!!
Munaf, Rudra, Zaheer or someone else?
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Phoeey. You haven't won't a World Cup since 2009. Losing Test matches regularly at home as well.What happened to yours in ICC events in the last 10 years? If finals are the end all be all standard, then Pakistan has played several too - but I'm talking about wins. And India has zilch.
Go burn, baby. :*
One thrashing of your pacers at India's hands in the Asia Cup and they completely fell apart, got injured , got beaten up by Afghanistan etc.
Mir Hamza level trundlers are your premier Test and PSL bowlers.
Had to the beg the 35 year old fixer to come back, did PCB .
Levels between India and PAK in bowling.
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"You haven't won a WC since 2009" - bro, you won one in 2011. 2 seal baad jeet ky bohot bara teer maar liya? Man sometimes the logic of your arguments surprises me. xD You have really gone down as a poster. Conveniently ignoring still the above point that India has won ZILCH, NADA in the last 10 years whereas Pakistan has. I know it burns, I get it.
As far as bowling is concerned, I will be the first to admit that India has definitely upped its game but I will only put them "levels" (as you suggested) above Pakistan when they have something to show for it. An empty trophy cabinet but got the ego of an Australia. xD
Go cry somewhere else babe. :*
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C'mon Indian fast bowlers have won multiple test in Eng/Sa/Aus while pakistani bowlers have massively failed both home and away. And they have won 2 series in Australia and share the honours in eng and sa, which certainly beats a ct or a t20 wc
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Champions Trophy is not a World Cup. It's barely a tournament. Even SA have won it - the inaugural one.
It's not even a regular part of the international schedule .
The poster I quoted was constantly talking about Pakistani bowling being much superior to India's in the lead up to the World Cup.
There's a context here.
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Gosh my Indian brothers get triggered so easily...
I watched one over today and couldn't believe my eyes.
The balls bowled at 135k's looked 135k's and then suddenly a wicket taking delivery was shown as 150k's even though it didn't look any quicker then the previous deliveries...
Please dont bring Pakistan or its vowlers into this.
I watched one over today and couldn't believe my eyes.
The balls bowled at 135k's looked 135k's and then suddenly a wicket taking delivery was shown as 150k's even though it didn't look any quicker then the previous deliveries...
Please dont bring Pakistan or its vowlers into this.
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The foreign pacers clocked the same speeds they do in international cricket. But sure , your eyes are the best judge of pace....
