[VIDEO/PICTURES] Mayank Yadav, another speed gun from India a.k.a The New Delhi Express

Champions Trophy is not a World Cup. It's barely a tournament. Even SA have won it - the inaugural one.

It's not even a regular part of the international schedule .

The poster I quoted was constantly talking about Pakistani bowling being much superior to India's in the lead up to the World Cup.

There's a context here.
Hamara kutta kutta, aapka kutta Tommy.

We were never talking about WCs bro - we were talking about tournaments.

And for what it's worth, I have only seen posters such as yourself discrediting the Champions Trophy since Pakistan has won it. Had India destroyed Pakistan in the final, it would have been held even superior to the WC with logic like "FIERCE competition", "No EASY games", "No FREE points" and the like. But we all know who destroyed who in the final ...and hence, the CT is being discredited to "it's not even tournament".

Bro, you're an old man now. Have the guts to give credit where it is due.
 
Hamara kutta kutta, aapka kutta Tommy.

We were never talking about WCs bro - we were talking about tournaments.

And for what it's worth, I have only seen posters such as yourself discrediting the Champions Trophy since Pakistan has won it. Had India destroyed Pakistan in the final, it would have been held even superior to the WC with logic like "FIERCE competition", "No EASY games", "No FREE points" and the like. But we all know who destroyed who in the final ...and hence, the CT is being discredited to "it's not even tournament".

Bro, you're an old man now. Have the guts to give credit where it is due.

Pakistan won the Champions Trophy. Congrats.

That was back in 2017.

That has nothing to do the quality of bowlers on either side in 2024.
 
Gosh my Indian brothers get triggered so easily...

I watched one over today and couldn't believe my eyes.
The balls bowled at 135k's looked 135k's and then suddenly a wicket taking delivery was shown as 150k's even though it didn't look any quicker then the previous deliveries...

Please dont bring Pakistan or its vowlers into this.
Look to be fair, he probably does bowl in excess of 150 because Umran did that in international cricket.

For what its worth, I think ALL leagues increase the speedo by a couple of KMs but if the guys getting clocked at 155 KPH, he's definitely bowling in excess of 150 even if the guns are doctored.
 
Pakistan won the Champions Trophy. Congrats.

That was back in 2017.

That has nothing to do the quality of bowlers on either side in 2024.
I want to drop this so I am making my final comment on this - the quality of your bowlers most definitely has something to do with winning a tournament consisting of all major cricketing nations. The current form of your bowlers doesn't change that. I rest my case.
 
I want to drop this so I am making my final comment on this - the quality of your bowlers most definitely has something to do with winning a tournament consisting of all major cricketing nations. The current form of your bowlers doesn't change that. I rest my case.

By the very nature of the formats , bowling is significantly more important in Tests where 20 wickets are a premium .
In LOI's it's significantly less important.

If bowling was so crucial to winnnig tournaments , Pakistan would have won at least in 1999 with your all time great attack.
 
Truth about express fast bowlers from India, is that
1) We do not know how to manage bowlers who can bowl express, coz we haven't had many.
2) We will ask them to bowl fast at all times and they will fall prey to injury.
3) Once they recover the expectations from these speedsters will be that should swing the ball and have perfect seam just like Bumrah and Shami and coaches will work on tweaking their action.
4) Once action is tweaked - the speed drops and they become worse that when they started of with.

We are lucky to have Bumrah and Shami bowling in the same generation, once they retire I do not see replacements.
If India is smart, they should tweak their citizenship policy just for express pacers from Pakistan. Lets buy off Naseem Shah.
Pakistan won't miss him coz they will keep finding amazing fast bowlers.
 
I want to drop this so I am making my final comment on this - the quality of your bowlers most definitely has something to do with winning a tournament consisting of all major cricketing nations. The current form of your bowlers doesn't change that. I rest my case.
Agree Pakistani pace bowlers won them that Trophy. But haven't one any significant test series.
Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib , saqlain, mustaq Ahmed were a nightmare for test teams.

Pakistan still has better bowling reserves than India. We should poach them just like how England gets people from other countries to represent them for cricket.
 
Agree Pakistani pace bowlers won them that Trophy. But haven't one any significant test series.
Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib , saqlain, mustaq Ahmed were a nightmare for test teams.

Pakistan still has better bowling reserves than India. We should poach them just like how England gets people from other countries to represent them for cricket.
Test cricket is more than just bowling. Mindset, attitude, strike rate, body language and belief plays a big role.
 
What happened to yours in ICC events in the last 10 years? If finals are the end all be all standard, then Pakistan has played several too - but I'm talking about wins. And India has zilch. ;)

Go burn, baby. :*
Agreed its all about winning. Coming close second doesn't mean squat.

Both india and Pakistan need to find ways to win like they did in the era prior to the last 10 years.
 
Can someone please post the cumulative team bowling average of the last 20 years in all formats?

Not that it's cure the delusion but it'd still be nice to see.
 
Nonsensical post, test cricket is about who can take 20 wickets, wasim and waqar were reason why Pakistan would win matches abroad
Test cricket is more than just bowling. Mindset, attitude, strike rate, body language and belief plays a big role.
 
Once again remind me off the "speed guns" you have produced in bygone years?. We have done so many.
Not a single rational soul on the earth would ever say that india has produced better fast bowlers than Pakistan in the bygone years as you put it.

We have had much better Pacers for the last few years though
 
I hope he will be selected for the T20 World Cup. A bowling attack featuring Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, and Mayank would be too hot to handle. Let our neighbors be convinced that India also has fast bowlers in its ranks.
 
I hope he will be selected for the T20 World Cup. A bowling attack featuring Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, and Mayank would be too hot to handle. Let our neighbors be convinced that India also has fast bowlers in its ranks.
shami won't be playing till Oct.Mayank should be there as a 3rd bowler .Can be used against sc teams and spinner (Bishnoi) against sena teams.
 
Gosh my Indian brothers get triggered so easily...

I watched one over today and couldn't believe my eyes.
The balls bowled at 135k's looked 135k's and then suddenly a wicket taking delivery was shown as 150k's even though it didn't look any quicker then the previous deliveries...

Please dont bring Pakistan or its vowlers into this.

Matheesa Pathirana clocks 150ks even in international cricket.

Have you heard of slower deliveries?

The wickets that fell to those 150k deliveries were Mitchell Marsh and Tristan Stubbs.

Your eye guns are not the technology to measure balls speed.
 
Hamara kutta kutta, aapka kutta Tommy.

We were never talking about WCs bro - we were talking about tournaments.

And for what it's worth, I have only seen posters such as yourself discrediting the Champions Trophy since Pakistan has won it. Had India destroyed Pakistan in the final, it would have been held even superior to the WC with logic like "FIERCE competition", "No EASY games", "No FREE points" and the like. But we all know who destroyed who in the final ...and hence, the CT is being discredited to "it's not even tournament".

Bro, you're an old man now. Have the guts to give credit where it is due.

As an Indian fan i would give away every CT we have won to get a few test series victory in SENA.

West Indies has won two T20WCs by your measurement they must be one of the great teams of the last decade.

For pakistanis the CT win is so important because, thats their only cricketing achievement in last 15 years.

You failed to reach the knockouts of the last 3 Cricket world cup.

Your test cricket performance is poor.

You haven't even won the T20WC, a format your players give preference to.

So while you can live in the glory of that one performance 7 years back, don't expect others to do the same.

It was a good performance in a important tournament, but it's not a World Cup. Not even a T20WC.
 
Look to be fair, he probably does bowl in excess of 150 because Umran did that in international cricket.

For what its worth, I think ALL leagues increase the speedo by a couple of KMs but if the guys getting clocked at 155 KPH, he's definitely bowling in excess of 150 even if the guns are doctored.

No they don't. They don't need to. This isn't WWE. This is professional cricket.

Boards hire professional production houses to do the telecast including speed guns. PSL hired Sunset Vine, BCCI hires STAR, these are big and credible names.

For IPL, they also post the Hawkeye video of every ball on their website.

Hawkeye cameras measure speed separately, using their cameras.

You can check that too.
 
A local Indian media outlet caught up with Mayank Yadav for an exclusive interview, and he answered the following questions:

You bowled thunder-bolts and bagged Man of the Match in your maiden IPL match...

I am really happy with my performance. My captain KL bhai came and told me that I would be playing. I was so happy. I just kept calm and decided to give my best and put in whatever I had learned so far. I was associated with LSG for the last three years. I used to prepare with the team. In the first year, I didn't get a chance. In the second year, I got injured. This is my third year with the team and I have got the opportunity.

What was the support like from captain KL Rahul?

KL bhaiya told me just one thing and he keeps on saying that the more you keep things simple, the better it is for you. I follow his advice and it actually works. He said that my plus point and major weapon is pace and I need to keep backing that and work on it. Since pace is my strength, he said don't think much if you are getting hammered or leaking runs, just keep backing your pace which is your strength. When he came to my room he said there would be pressure as it is your first match, so don't think on that part, just go and bowl the way you have been.

How do you generate pace?

It is natural in me. I polished my bowling in the last few years but I can generate pace with ease. I don't have to work much to generate pace.

You are a product of Sonnet Cricket Club which has produced stars like Ashish Nehra, Shikhar Dhawan, Rishabh Pant, Anjum Chopra, Raman Lamba, and many more...

Tarak Sinha sir has played a big role in my career. I was 14 when I went to Sonnett in the summer camp. Tarak sir told me to go and bowl. Devender sir was there too. When Tarak sir saw my bowling, he came and said 'kal se practice kar le yaha pe tu'. After a week, Tarak sir just sat behind the nets where I was bowling. He was keeping a close watch on me. He was impressed with my pace. I was the fastest in that age group. He gave me a couple of matches against some big teams. I performed really well there. Tarak sir then used to give me a call for almost every match. He has guided me a lot.

Who is your inspiration and why?

I take inspiration from Dale Steyn. I just love the way he shows his aggression from his bowling. He can intimidate any batsman with his pace. Steyn is my idol. I never met him. I really want to meet him someday. That day will be like a dream come true for me. I watch Steyn's bowling videos and his best spells and learn from those.

Do you want to become the world's fastest bowler?

I never wanted to become the world's fastest bowler. I never dreamt of that. I don't want to become the world's fastest bowler. I just want to be the world's best bowler. I just want to concede fewer runs and remain consistent with my performance. Pace is a plus point for me. There are other things like line, length, and where to hit the ball. Pace just back those areas.

You are close to senior India pacer Ishant Sharma too...

Ishant bhaiya has helped me a lot. We both are from the same state and the same team. He has been so kind and helpful to me. For me, he is just a call away for any sort of help. Ishant bhaiya has given me a lot of tips regarding how to remain fit, how to remain fresh physically and mentally during a season. He has helped me a lot, especially in the last three years.

What was the strategy vs Punjab Kings?

The strategy was to exploit the longer side of the field. The leg side presented a sizable target from my bowling position. I opted not to bowl towards the off side, assuming that any room given would result in the batsman easily dispatching the ball for a boundary. I aimed to bowl short and target the batsman's body. Both Bairstow and Jitesh attempted to make room and play their shots, but my strategy proved effective against them.
 
No they don't. They don't need to. This isn't WWE. This is professional cricket.

Boards hire professional production houses to do the telecast including speed guns. PSL hired Sunset Vine, BCCI hires STAR, these are big and credible names.

For IPL, they also post the Hawkeye video of every ball on their website.

Hawkeye cameras measure speed separately, using their cameras.

You can check that too.
I think the BBL certainly does. Usman Shinwari was a fast bowler but he wasn’t express. He bowled a few over 150 in the BBL even though he never did that in international cricket IIRC.
 
I think the BBL certainly does. Usman Shinwari was a fast bowler but he wasn’t express. He bowled a few over 150 in the BBL even though he never did that in international cricket IIRC.

A speed gun gives 3 readings. In most places they take the middle reading, in Australia they take the highest reading.

Simon Doull mentioned it on air.
 
He is looking good at least a much better option than Umran Malik.

Because of his height he is getting extra pace and some additional bounce.

But honestly speaking after watching his arm speed it doesn't feel like he can bowl that quickly.
 
I think the BBL certainly does. Usman Shinwari was a fast bowler but he wasn’t express. He bowled a few over 150 in the BBL even though he never did that in international cricket IIRC.

Australia uses Virtual Eye instead of HawkEye. Also, because of the bounce in the wickets, bowlers tend to bowl fuller over there and fuller deliveries generally clock higher on average.
 
Tom Moody on Umran Malik vs Mayank Yadav:

"Same pace, same excitement initially, upfront. My initial take on Mayank versus Umran is that there's a better action and repeatable action with what we've seen tonight, in Mayank. He's still 21, so it's really important that he's managed carefully, physically, because that's a real red zone for fast bowlers, between the age of 18 to 25. I'm sure that the experts will have their arms around him, protecting him, and making sure that they get him strong in the right areas.

Umran, a lot more going on at the crease with regards to his action, so therefore the control isn't there but the pace is there. So what Umran needs to work on is that control at the crease, making his action cleaner, and what we've seen tonight is another step ahead. And that's just come naturally. He's been gifted with that, and he's just started to bowl. It's very hard to get someone that hasn't got a braced front leg to suddenly learn how to brace their front leg as a fast bowler. You've either got it or you haven't got it. It's very hard to develop it."
 
A speed gun gives 3 readings. In most places they take the middle reading, in Australia they take the highest reading.

Simon Doull mentioned it on air.
Australia uses Virtual Eye instead of HawkEye. Also, because of the bounce in the wickets, bowlers tend to bowl fuller over there and fuller deliveries generally clock higher on average.
That makes sense.

Good luck to Yadav. Hope he doesn’t go down the Varun Aaron route, who in my opinion, was discarded way too early.

Indian selectors are worse than Pakistani selectors in wasting potential and I hope they don’t throw away this gem because pace makes international cricket 10x more exciting.
 
Not a single rational soul on the earth would ever say that india has produced better fast bowlers than Pakistan in the bygone years as you put it.

We have had much better Pacers for the last few years though
Glad you accept the lack of "speed guns" as the thread opener says. Bumrah is the closest you've ever had.
 
Today Mayank yadav will get chance to bowl against VIRAT AND Maxwell lets see how is performed today. I'm no fan of LSG but definitely want to see when Mayank came to Bowl every time they play
 
Mayank seems a better bowler than other speedsters India had in recent times like Umran Malik etc. But it is still too early to judge this guy. Let him play the whole IPL and then at the end of the IPL, we can see how good this guy actually is.
 
Mayank seems a better bowler than other speedsters India had in recent times like Umran Malik etc. But it is still too early to judge this guy. Let him play the whole IPL and then at the end of the IPL, we can see how good this guy actually is.
Yes he has talent but need to groom carefully for test cricket . Don't care about T20 but we need quality test bowlers for replacement of Shami and ishant . akashdeep and Mayank will get enough apportunity to represent India
 
I read Varun Aaron's analysis of Mayank. He's impressive, Varun! Not your typical ex-India cricketer with only tiresome cliche for analysis.
 
Today Mayank yadav will get chance to bowl against VIRAT AND Maxwell lets see how is performed today. I'm no fan of LSG but definitely want to see when Mayank came to Bowl every time they play
I will like to see it in a bigger ground than bangalore.with his speed mayank may concede 60 plus on that tiny ground.
 
Yes he has talent but need to groom carefully for test cricket . Don't care about T20 but we need quality test bowlers for replacement of Shami and ishant . akashdeep and Mayank will get enough apportunity to represent India
Somebody should bring karthik tyagi, kuldeep sen in to the fold.dravid is too timid and rigid.
 
That makes sense.

Good luck to Yadav. Hope he doesn’t go down the Varun Aaron route, who in my opinion, was discarded way too early.

Indian selectors are worse than Pakistani selectors in wasting potential and I hope they don’t throw away this gem because pace makes international cricket 10x more exciting.

Indian selectors and coaches are known to pick medium pacers and not express pacers.

They will give a Unadkat or Shardul Thakur 10 chances, they will keep giving Mukesh Kumar chances but someone like Mayank will find it difficult to get a second chance.
 
I hope he is groomed and brought into national side before it’s too late.
Express Fast bowlers are injury prone, one injury can ruin the career.
It’s important to get the best out of him while he’s young and still has pace, if they delay bringing him to national side he might be too old or injury prone to be effective for a long time.
 
Truth about express fast bowlers from India, is that
1) We do not know how to manage bowlers who can bowl express, coz we haven't had many.
2) We will ask them to bowl fast at all times and they will fall prey to injury.
3) Once they recover the expectations from these speedsters will be that should swing the ball and have perfect seam just like Bumrah and Shami and coaches will work on tweaking their action.
4) Once action is tweaked - the speed drops and they become worse that when they started of with.

We are lucky to have Bumrah and Shami bowling in the same generation, once they retire I do not see replacements.
If India is smart, they should tweak their citizenship policy just for express pacers from Pakistan. Lets buy off Naseem Shah.
Pakistan won't miss him coz they will keep finding amazing fast bowlers.
Who are these amazing fast bowlers in last 10 years?
 
Truth about express fast bowlers from India, is that
1) We do not know how to manage bowlers who can bowl express, coz we haven't had many.
2) We will ask them to bowl fast at all times and they will fall prey to injury.
3) Once they recover the expectations from these speedsters will be that should swing the ball and have perfect seam just like Bumrah and Shami and coaches will work on tweaking their action.
4) Once action is tweaked - the speed drops and they become worse that when they started of with.

We are lucky to have Bumrah and Shami bowling in the same generation, once they retire I do not see replacements.
If India is smart, they should tweak their citizenship policy just for express pacers from Pakistan. Lets buy off Naseem Shah.
Pakistan won't miss him coz they will keep findingmazing fast bowlers.
Name these amazing fast bowlers you ate talking about?
 
Anyone with a working brain and eyes can see that this lad is legit quick, hilarious to read the previous page in hindsight but I'm guessing the current circumstances have made some Pakistani posters mentally damaged.
 
Anyone with a working brain and eyes can see that this lad is legit quick, hilarious to read the previous page in hindsight but I'm guessing the current circumstances have made some Pakistani posters mentally damaged.
Legit pace bowling fans from Pakistan have appreciate him. Infact I am always thrilled by guys like shear Joseph, burger, mayank
 
He look quick but unlike previous Indian fast bowlers like umran ,varun etc etc he seems accurate as of now...
 
He is a slightly faster version of Jofra Archer. I like the length at which he bowls with such pace... Look at his impressive match figures tonight 4 overs 14/3.. bowled a devastating spell.
 
We need to stop the hype train for a bit. He was injured and has came back strong this season. I had heard of him 2-3 years back and he has played 2 seasons of domestic. If he sustains this for a whole IPL season he will be on the flight to Carribbean. Saw his interview with Manjot Kalra on his second innings YouTube channel.. this boy is young but mature. Hopefully hype does not go to his head and he has long term dreams.
 
Shoaib Akhtar's record is under threat.
Shaoib was well built as he could also muscle through besides arm speed. Mayank is not fully built yet. Also injury is the worst enemy for modern day fast bowlers. Luckily he has relatively easy action unlike Bumrah
 
Shaoib was well built as he could also muscle through besides arm speed. Mayank is not fully built yet. Also injury is the worst enemy for modern day fast bowlers. Luckily he has relatively easy action unlike Bumrah
Injury concern is very high for Mayank Yadav. Hopefully he lasts for at least 3-5 years for India. Most Indian express bowlers disappear in under 1 year. Its a curse.
 
Injury concern is very high for Mayank Yadav. Hopefully he lasts for at least 3-5 years for India. Most Indian express bowlers disappear in under 1 year. Its a curse.
He should be used only for T20 until he develops. Playing him in ODIs will be a recipe for disaster. If anything he shouldn't play first class too until he develops. Just List A and T20. He should be treated like Malinga not Steyn
 
Love the seam position, our fast pacers are usually very dull hoping he will be better.
 
The fastest ball by an Indian is 157kph by Umran in 2022 IPL.

Mayank has hit 156.8kph.

Can he go past Umran?

Then can he go past Tait's 157.7kph to register the fastest ball in IPL history?
 
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