[VIDEO] Rishabh Pant - The next big thing from India?

[Pk716]

Really? Thats a news to me.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

[MENTION=148731]Pk716[/MENTION] Where did I say Manish Pandey is better than Shreyas Iyer?

 

[Pk716]

[MENTION=148731]Pk716[/MENTION] Where did I say Manish Pandey is better than Shreyas Iyer?

I obviously couldn't find as I am not expert in digging old posts. Atleast the troll part is right. What do you say about it.

 

[spiderreddy]

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From sheep to real talent. It didn't take much time

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I obviously couldn't find as I am not expert in digging old posts. Atleast the troll part is right. What do you say about it.

Lol what? I clearly wrote there 'last time' Shreyas Iyer played for India he did look like a sheep and couldn't even catch properly. I am not making that up like you are doing with that Manish Pandey thing.

I never claimed that Iyer will remain like that? In Pant's case I am clearly asking you guys to bookmark my post that he will end his career as a below 30 averaging batsman in tests. That's a prediction. You can take a screenshot of this post.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

From sheep to real talent. It didn't take much time

If Pant can become a sheep from a real talent then why can't Iyer become a real talent from a sheep?

 

[Pk716]

Lol what? I clearly wrote there 'last time' Shreyas Iyer played for India he did look like a sheep and couldn't even catch properly. I am not making that up like you are doing with that Manish Pandey thing.

I never claimed that Iyer will remain like that? In Pant's case I am clearly asking you guys to bookmark my post that he will end his career as a below 30 averaging batsman in tests. That's a prediction. You can take a screenshot of this post.

That is the reason I added 'If I remember correctly' why would I make it up by tagging you. Regarding that pant's 30 avg claim he will atleast play for 10yrs do you want us to save it and show you after 10yrs? Make a reasonable claim.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That is the reason I added 'If I remember correctly' why would I make it up by tagging you. Regarding that pant's 30 avg claim he will atleast play for 10yrs do you want us to save it and show you after 10yrs? Make a reasonable claim.

How are you so sure that he will play for 10 years? Aren't you making your own little prediction there now? Or do you have no confidence in Indian cricket system that we can't unearth another wicket keeper batsman who can average more than Pant?

People were saying the same thing about Saha few years ago that he will play for 6-7 years. Now look at him he is not even in the picture. Same can happen with Pant once another guy starts knocking on the door.

We don't have to play a tullaybaaz at an important position of number 4.

 

[Pk716]

How are you so sure that he will play for 10 years? Aren't you making your own little prediction there now? Or do you have no confidence in Indian cricket system that we can't unearth another wicket keeper batsman who can average more than Pant?

People were saying the same thing about Saha few years ago that he will play for 6-7 years. Now look at him he is not even in the picture. Same can happen with Pant once another guy starts knocking on the door.

We don't have to play a tullaybaaz at an important position of number 4.

I predicted the same way you said he will avg less than 30. Why no. 4 is brought up here when I am talking about tests where he bats at no. 7?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I predicted the same way you said he will avg less than 30. Why no. 4 is brought up here when I am talking about tests where he bats at no. 7?

Why did you guys bring tests into discussion when we were discussing his current LOI performances in West Indies where he is batting at number 4?

 

[Pk716]

Why did you guys bring tests into discussion when we were discussing his current LOI performances in West Indies where he is batting at number 4?

LOL. Just look at the previous posts you are the one who started it by predicting his test career.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol what a despo. Now you have once again brought tests into LOI discussions. Pant will be found out in tests as well. His average will come down to below 30.

[MENTION=148731]Pk716[/MENTION] Can you read this post? This was in response to spiderreddy ji.

 

[Hasan123]

Iyer should bat at 4. Pant should bat at 5 or 6. He needs to give himself a chance rather than look to swing from ball 1. Maybe Shastri and Kohli have given him that licence to go from ball 1.

 

[Pk716]

@BhaagViruBhaag OK he said that 2 days back. You brought that again today. Anyway I never wanted Pant to be no 4 he best suits at no. 6. And our captain who think Gill is a better batsman than him at that age can't give a chance to him even after the worldcup shows how our Indian cricket future is going to be under him.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Nothing more than a slogger. Superior version of Afridi. Can cost more games than winning.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He is a hack.Should be restricted to tests only.

ODIs and T20s aren't made for him.

I am curious to know why do you think so?

 

[Ab Fan]

I am curious to know why do you think so?

So, you failed to understand a simple sarcasm here.

I am saying here that as per some people logic, he is a hack and should play tests only and not T20s/ODIs.

Oh man, u couldn't even understand this. Really!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So, you failed to understand a simple sarcasm here.

I am saying here that as per some people logic, he is a hack and should play tests only and not T20s/ODIs.

Oh man, u couldn't even understand this. Really!

Yeah now its sarcasm lol? Try again. I am sure you will come up with a better excuse next time.

 

[Ab Fan]

Yeah now its sarcasm lol? Try again. I am sure you will come up with a better excuse next time.

Yes, it was a sarcasm and if u r failing to understand this ,then u really lack the understanding of what is a sarcasm in a post.

In the post, I said Pant is hack and should be restricted to tests only. Both the points are opposing each other. This was done to expose the hypocrisy of some people including you who were bringing 10 ODI matches statistics of Pant to prove him an international ODI failure.

The guy has tests hundreds in England and Australia and some posters here were saying that he is a hack and is not suited to ODIs and only good for IPL. That was for them. It's absymal if guys like u can't even understand this, really what a waste of time for me!

 

[Romali_rotti]

I am curious to know why do you think so?

Pant may turn into a solid player

 

[Romali_rotti]

Iyer should bat at 4. Pant should bat at 5 or 6. He needs to give himself a chance rather than look to swing from ball 1. Maybe Shastri and Kohli have given him that licence to go from ball 1.

No Iyer is a terrible batsmen, put him in a pitch where the ball bounces above knee level and he is a shooting duck... Keep this guy far far away from the team..

 

[Dingolfy]

No Iyer is a terrible batsmen, put him in a pitch where the ball bounces above knee level and he is a shooting duck... Keep this guy far far away from the team..

And this is based on what? His first series in SA? Even Kohli failed in his first series in England.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

His test average has come down to 45.44 from 50 after just 1 test against West Indies. I had high hopes from him because of his test average and his hundreds against Aus, Eng. Anyway lets hope he can score some runs in the next test and once again averages 50 in test cricket.

 

[spiderreddy]

Saha has set some high standards for batting on Windies pitches. Batting avgs of some of the wicket keepers that represented India :

Saha - 51
N Mongia - 28
Ratra - 26
Dhoni - 22

It will be a shame if Pant ends up averaging less than the likes of Mongia and Ratra

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Saha has set some high standards for batting on Windies pitches. Batting avgs of some of the wicket keepers that represented India :

Saha - 51
N Mongia - 28
Ratra - 26
Dhoni - 22

It will be a shame if Pant ends up averaging less than the likes of Mongia and Ratra

Thread is about Rishabh Pant not Ratra, Dhoni or Saha. Kindly stay on topic and do not try to derail this thread. Thank you.

 

[spiderreddy]

T20I statistics on Windies soil :
Best Indian wicket keeper MSD - 6 Inn - 87 runs - 29 avg
Next big thing Pant - 2 inn - 103 runs - 103 avg

 

[spiderreddy]

First worldcup statistics

Best Indian WK msd : 0 vs Ban, 0 vs Srilanka, 29 Vs Bermuda
Avg - 9

Next big thing Pant : 48 vs Ban, 32 vs Eng, 4 vs SL, 32 vs NZ in a semifinal.
Avg - 29

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

First worldcup statistics

Best Indian WK msd : 0 vs Ban, 0 vs Srilanka, 29 Vs Bermuda
Avg - 9

Next big thing Pant : 48 vs Ban, 32 vs Eng, 4 vs SL, 32 vs NZ in a semifinal.
Avg - 29

After looking at these stats I am sure Pant will average more than 50 in ODI's soon. He is batting at 4 whereas Dhoni used to bat at 6-7. I also expect him to become captain of Indian T20 Team and win the world cup for India.

I then expect him to become test captain and take India to or maintain its number 1 position. After he achieve this milestone, I expect him to captain India in ODI World Cup and play a match winning inning in the finals. Once that is done I want him to retire immediately because he is an advanced version of Dhoni.

Make sure you keep comparing Dhoni's stats with Pant's from now onwards lol. It's going to get pretty easy now.

 

[spiderreddy]

Test stats in Aus
Best Indian WK Dhoni : 18 inn - 311 runs
Next big thing Pant : 7 inn - 350 runs

 

[Mueez]

Sharam karo yaar, Dhoni has won
India three ICC throphies.

ICC T20 WC
ICC ODI WC
ICC CT 2013

Let that sink in.

Yes he is old now and he can’t produce those match winning innings nowadays, but still you have to respect him for what he has done.

I admit he needs to hang his boots up and call it a day.

However Dhoni is a legend and LO ATG and to replace him would be a huge task for Risabh Pant.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Sharam karo yaar, Dhoni has won
India three ICC throphies.

ICC T20 WC
ICC ODI WC
ICC CT 2013

Let that sink in.

Yes he is old now and he can’t produce those match winning innings nowadays, but still you have to respect him for what he has done.

I admit he needs to hang his boots up and call it a day.

However Dhoni is a legend and LO ATG and to replace him would be a huge task for Risabh Pant.

Lol they can't respect a legend and expect others to respect and not criticise a 21 year old noob. Forget Dhoni, Pant first has to surpass Suresh Raina and Yuvi in LOI's.

 

[spiderreddy]

Sharam karo yaar, Dhoni has won
India three ICC throphies.

ICC T20 WC
ICC ODI WC
ICC CT 2013

Let that sink in.

Yes he is old now and he can’t produce those match winning innings nowadays, but still you have to respect him for what he has done.

I admit he needs to hang his boots up and call it a day.

However Dhoni is a legend and LO ATG and to replace him would be a huge task for Risabh Pant.

I won't ask you to disrespect Dhoni and you shouldn't ask me to respect Dhoni.

And coming to achievements
He should thank Gambhir and Yuvraj for T20 wc.
Gambhir, Sachin, Yuvraj and Zaheer for WC
Shikhar and kohli for champions trophy

And before some Dhoni fans bring up that 91 in WC final, let me remind them he scored 25 in semi final, 7 in quarter final
He scored 0 in CT final, 6 in WT20 final.
Sammy won 2 T20 WCs. Sarfaraz won CT that doesn't mean everyone should respect them.
He took India to No.1 rank from No.2 and then brought it down to No.7in tests. If Dhoni fans want to take credit Dhoni's captaincy for those trophies then they should also blame Dhoni for these rankings and all other losses in WCs that followed.

If Dhoni fans want to take credit for WC final knock then should give more credit to Gambhir's innings, total credit to Gambhir for WT20 final knock and kohli, Jadeja knocks for CT

He dropped Dravid and Ganguly from ODIs for their fielding when they were still good with the bat.
He dropped Gambhir and Sehwag when they lost form and before dropping them he humiliated them publicly for their fielding. But, like any other Indian fan I used to respect him thinking that he is doing this for the benefit of the Indian team. but then he lost all my respect when he shamelessly continued for more than 3 years past his prime

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Welcome to PakPassion Yograj Singh. Lol.

 

[spiderreddy]

Test hundreds in England
Best Indian wicket keeper Dhoni : 0 hundreds in 23 innings
Next big thing Pant : 1 hundred in 6 innings

 

[Abdullah719]

We should just rename this thread to MS Dhoni vs Rishabh Pant

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

We should just rename this thread to MS Dhoni vs Rishabh Pant

Since some users can't even talk about Rishabh Pant's performances without bringing in Dhoni's name, you will have to do it anyway.

 

[spiderreddy]

We should just rename this thread to MS Dhoni vs Rishabh Pant

Great idea. Only then some Dhoni fans will realise how good a 21 year old Rishabh Pant is

 

[Pk716]

One great thing about Pant is he never plays for himself. Yesterday even when pitch is becoming hard to hit sixes he still tried for it for the team not caring about his avg. He may not be a Dhoni but if he works hard he can be a better version of raina,who selflessly plays for the team.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

One great thing about Pant is he never plays for himself. Yesterday even when pitch is becoming hard to hit sixes he still tried for it for the team not caring about his avg. He may not be a Dhoni but if he works hard he can be a better version of raina,who selflessly plays for the team.

Sorry but thats a silly excuse for a player who gifts his wicket away. We can say the same about Umar Akmal or even Afridi as well. They were also not selfish cricketers but still cost Pakistan many matches due to their brainless batting.

 

[Pk716]

Sorry but thats a silly excuse for a player who gifts his wicket away. We can say the same about Umar Akmal or even Afridi as well. They were also not selfish cricketers but still cost Pakistan many matches due to their brainless batting.

I don't think you watched his previous innings where he scored 24 not a good score but still he didn't throw away his wicket like he do in ODI's and t20's. In tests he can score through 1's and 2's as field set favors his batting style. Another such batsman is vihari he was nearing his first 100 still he took risks in the end for the team.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Sorry but thats a silly excuse for a player who gifts his wicket away. We can say the same about Umar Akmal or even Afridi as well. They were also not selfish cricketers but still cost Pakistan many matches due to their brainless batting.

India was in total control when he did that. Rahane, Vihari, Pant all gifted their wickets. Atleast watch the match before commenting.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

India was in total control when he did that. Rahane, Vihari, Pant all gifted their wickets. Atleast watch the match before commenting.

You should look at the thread title first before posting. Why will I talk about Vihari and Rahane in a thread that is dedicated to the next big thing in Indian cricket?

 

[jnaveen1980]

You should look at the thread title first before posting. Why will I talk about Vihari and Rahane in a thread that is dedicated to the next big thing in Indian cricket?

Rahane who was averaging 50 now averaging 40 lol was also hyped to be next best thing.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Rahane who was averaging 50 now averaging 40 lol was also hyped to be next best thing.

Did I hype him? I am not into this game of overhyping a player, jumping on the bandwagon and then abusing the same player after sometime. I saw the exact same thing happening to poor KL Rahul too. He was hyped to be better than Kohli and some fans even went to an extent of saying Kohli is jealous of KL Rahul lol.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Did I hype him? I am not into this game of overhyping a player, jumping on the bandwagon and then abusing the same player after sometime. I saw the exact same thing happening to poor KL Rahul too. He was hyped to be better than Kohli and some fans even went to an extent of saying Kohli is jealous of KL Rahul lol.

In his very first season in Tests became the ICC XI keeper. Broke keeping record. Scored the highest runs in Australia in his very first tour for a keeper. Averaging 53 in first classwith good strike rate. Pretty much all commies are as excited as fans to see him play. He is just 21. Just like you advise others not to hype him up you have to advise yourself not to run him down. This thread title ends with a Question mark just in case you didn't notice. He didn't conclusively say he is the next best thing. So far he is going in the right direction. At the start of your career you are bound to have up and down. Just to remind you Kohli was dropped after his first stint in Tests. He had to go through the same criticism.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

In his very first season in Tests became the ICC XI keeper. Broke keeping record. Scored the highest runs in Australia in his very first tour for a keeper. Averaging 53 in first classwith good strike rate. Pretty much all commies are as excited as fans to see him play. He is just 21. Just like you advise others not to hype him up you have to advise yourself not to run him down. This thread title ends with a Question mark just in case you didn't notice. He didn't conclusively say he is the next best thing. So far he is going in the right direction. At the start of your career you are bound to have up and down. Just to remind you Kohli was dropped after his first stint in Tests. He had to go through the same criticism.

Keep this hypocritic wisdom to yourself. You guys use these lines for your favorite players only but forget this when a player like Vijay Shankar or Pandey comes to play for India. You will want them out because in your opinion they are not that special. You won't even give them same number of chances as your favorite player is getting.

Some people even wanted Ambati Rayudu out when he was averaging 50. I wonder why? That's why its tough to take fans like you seriously. You guys change your colors too often.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Keep this hypocritic wisdom to yourself. You guys use these lines for your favorite players only but forget this when a player like Vijay Shankar or Pandey comes to play for India. You will want them out because in your opinion they are not that special. You won't even give them same number of chances as your favorite player is getting.

Some people even wanted Ambati Rayudu out when he was averaging 50. I wonder why? That's why its tough to take fans like you seriously. You guys change your colors too often.

Shankar at the age of 28 should have been a far better batsman than he is. Not even the best for his own state. Only reason he was even in the reckoning because he could be used as a bowler. Once you decide not to use him as a bowler he has no place in the side. I would back guys like Iyer, Subhman Gill over them. These are pedigree batsmen. Not utility all rounders. Pandey didn't do anything to be recalled back. His IPL failure sealed his fate. Fact that you rate Rayudu as a batsman is laughable lol. Did you watch how much clueless against pace bowler. He was so bad that they had to pick Shankar in place of Rayudu. India has far better potentials than these dead woods. DK another mental midget should have never been the back up keeper. Pant should have been the back up keeper. They realized the mistake only later. Once Dhoni leaves it will be Pant. You have to analyze the game much much deeper than you do. I am not really a fan of pant as you keep suggesting. I back any player who is likely to do well. I look forward to giving chances to youngsters even if Pant fails. You sound like kohli. Bringing the deadwoods back into the side. Raina, Yuvraj singh, pandey, Rayudu.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Shankar at the age of 28 should have been a far better batsman than he is. Not even the best for his own state. Only reason he was even in the reckoning because he could be used as a bowler. Once you decide not to use him as a bowler he has no place in the side. I would back guys like Iyer, Subhman Gill over them. These are pedigree batsmen. Not utility all rounders. Pandey didn't do anything to be recalled back. His IPL failure sealed his fate. Fact that you rate Rayudu as a batsman is laughable lol. Did you watch how much clueless against pace bowler. He was so bad that they had to pick Shankar in place of Rayudu. India has far better potentials than these dead woods. DK another mental midget should have never been the back up keeper. Pant should have been the back up keeper. They realized the mistake only later. Once Dhoni leaves it will be Pant. You have to analyze the game much much deeper than you do. I am not really a fan of pant as you keep suggesting. I back any player who is likely to do well. I look forward to giving chances to youngsters even if Pant fails. You sound like kohli. Bringing the deadwoods back into the side. Raina, Yuvraj singh, pandey, Rayudu.

From where did Raina and Yuvraj come into this? Why do you make stuff up and put words in my mouth? I was talking about Rayudu who was averaging 50 something in ODIs and people still wanted him out of the team. How was he a deadwood? Did you forget to do your deep analysis there?

I also want Gill and Shaw in the team. Playing Pant at 4 in LOI's is a joke. And in my personal opinion Pant will be an indian version of Umar Akmal. He was also quite young back then and his fans used to give the same excuse which you are giving here.

 

[Ab Fan]

I will play Rishabh Pant at 5. He will be more useful to the team at that position.

Iyer or Gill should be the ones competing for no.4 position.Shaw will have to wait more because Rohit or Dhawan are not going anywhere anytime soon.

Rohit
Shikhar
Kohli
Iyer/Gill
Pant
Batting AR(but not Jadhav)
Pandya
Jadeja
Kul/Chahal
Shami
Bumrah

I dont rate Shankar, Pandey and Jadhav and neither do management have trust in backing them on big occasions.

 

[Abdullah719]

Pant has 'a lot to learn', Saha deserves to play second Test: Syed Kirmani

One of India‘s greatest wicketkeeper, Syed Kirmani, feels that Bengal veteran Wriddhiman Saha deserves to play the second Test against the West Indies instead of Rishabh Pant, who still has a “lot to learn”.

Pant’s short career has been inconsistent at best especially his indiscreet shot selection during World Cup and the ongoing West Indies tour that has left everyone disappointed.

Kirmani, who played 88 Tests for India, feels that Saha was injured and he deserves equal opportunity just like the burly Delhi keeper.

“Yeh abhi jhule main hai (He is still in his infancy). But he is God gifted but needs to learn a lot,” Kirmani told PTI on the sidelines of the launch of six outlets of Hearing Solutions here.

“It’s the most difficult position on the field. Not everyone can do keeping by just wearing a pair of gloves,” said the member of the 1983 World Cup winning side.

Kirmani, a former chairman of selectors wants Saha to play the next Test in Jamaica.

“Saha unfortunately had some injury problems. He has to be given equal opportunity. What’s the point of keeping him in the side, if you do not give him chance,” Kirmani questioned.

“We have to judge on pure performance. Saha came to Indian side following his consistency at domestic level. But when you’re out of picture, somebody else takes over your place, so the likes of Karthik and Pant came into the picture.

“Now we have to see who’s is more consistent on the field — be it in batting, wicketkeeping or in terms of all-round abilities,” Kirmani said.

The 69-year-old also seemed a trifle irritated with constant speculation over Mahendra Singh Dhoni’s future.

“Leave him alone. There will be a time when he will retire, but we must stop talking about his retirement now.”

Kirmani however wants Dhoni to groom the youngsters in the side before calling it quits.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...erves-to-play-second-test-syed-kirmani-885043

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant has 'a lot to learn', Saha deserves to play second Test: Syed Kirmani

One of India‘s greatest wicketkeeper, Syed Kirmani, feels that Bengal veteran Wriddhiman Saha deserves to play the second Test against the West Indies instead of Rishabh Pant, who still has a “lot to learn”.

Pant’s short career has been inconsistent at best especially his indiscreet shot selection during World Cup and the ongoing West Indies tour that has left everyone disappointed.

Kirmani, who played 88 Tests for India, feels that Saha was injured and he deserves equal opportunity just like the burly Delhi keeper.

“Yeh abhi jhule main hai (He is still in his infancy). But he is God gifted but needs to learn a lot,” Kirmani told PTI on the sidelines of the launch of six outlets of Hearing Solutions here.

“It’s the most difficult position on the field. Not everyone can do keeping by just wearing a pair of gloves,” said the member of the 1983 World Cup winning side.

Kirmani, a former chairman of selectors wants Saha to play the next Test in Jamaica.

“Saha unfortunately had some injury problems. He has to be given equal opportunity. What’s the point of keeping him in the side, if you do not give him chance,” Kirmani questioned.

“We have to judge on pure performance. Saha came to Indian side following his consistency at domestic level. But when you’re out of picture, somebody else takes over your place, so the likes of Karthik and Pant came into the picture.

“Now we have to see who’s is more consistent on the field — be it in batting, wicketkeeping or in terms of all-round abilities,” Kirmani said.

The 69-year-old also seemed a trifle irritated with constant speculation over Mahendra Singh Dhoni’s future.

“Leave him alone. There will be a time when he will retire, but we must stop talking about his retirement now.”

Kirmani however wants Dhoni to groom the youngsters in the side before calling it quits.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...erves-to-play-second-test-syed-kirmani-885043

Lol at 'yeh abhi jhule mein hai'.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Lol at 'yeh abhi jhule mein hai'.

you missed the next sentence "HE is god gifted" . Everyone sees a spark in him. That is why irrelevant people like Vaughan who would get nothing out of hyping Pant rate him high. It is a matter of him getting his shot selection right.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

you missed the next sentence "HE is god gifted" . Everyone sees a spark in him. That is why irrelevant people like Vaughan who would get nothing out of hyping Pant rate him high. It is a matter of him getting his shot selection right.

I knew you will bring this up that is why I didn't say much in that post. This is the reason why I think he is going to be like Umar Akmal who was another god gifted player.

Also I don't know how many times I have commented about his shot selection, inconsistency and his poor game awareness. It seems it all went above your head because you guys were too busy hyping him up.

That's the problem with you *******. When other players fail you want them out immediately but when one of your favorite player performs badly you try to look for excuses.

You think he will get his shot selection right and start put a price tag on his wicket within a couple of weeks? That's not how it works. Ask Maxwell or Umar Akmal. Those two are god gifted players as well.

 

[Pk716]

I knew you will bring this up that is why I didn't say much in that post. This is the reason why I think he is going to be like Umar Akmal who was another god gifted player.

Also I don't know how many times I have commented about his shot selection, inconsistency and his poor game awareness. It seems it all went above your head because you guys were too busy hyping him up.

That's the problem with you *******. When other players fail you want them out immediately but when one of your favorite player performs badly you try to look for excuses.

You think he will get his shot selection right and start put a price tag on his wicket within a couple of weeks? That's not how it works. Ask Maxwell or Umar Akmal. Those two are god gifted players as well.

Even if a 21 yr old Umar akmal is playing for India I would back him . What if this Umar akmal gets right this time ?He can be a match winner. We have to give enough chances to know what he will become into. For me it's worth taking the risk.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Even if a 21 yr old Umar akmal is playing for India I would back him . What if this Umar akmal gets right this time ?He can be a match winner. We have to give enough chances to know what he will become into. For me it's worth taking the risk.

Besides Umar is a specialist bat. Pant is a keeper who will bat at 6 or 7. If he had scored runs comments would have been "it is a poor West Indian team" lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

I knew you will bring this up that is why I didn't say much in that post. This is the reason why I think he is going to be like Umar Akmal who was another god gifted player.

Also I don't know how many times I have commented about his shot selection, inconsistency and his poor game awareness. It seems it all went above your head because you guys were too busy hyping him up.

That's the problem with you *******. When other players fail you want them out immediately but when one of your favorite player performs badly you try to look for excuses.

You think he will get his shot selection right and start put a price tag on his wicket within a couple of weeks? That's not how it works. Ask Maxwell or Umar Akmal. Those two are god gifted players as well.

Unfortunately "your players" are mediocre players whose age is on the wrong side of 20s or early 30s. His only competition is Saha. Pant is above him. When Parthiv patel failed they didn't go back to Samir Dighe or Ratra. They moved on. They used Karthik. When he flunked they used Dhoni. At this point there is no new keeper that is competing with Pant. He deserves a solid run. Quit whining after every innings of Pant.

 

[troodon]

Pant is wasting all his opportunities since Worldcup. Even in World cup, he wasted his chances. His head position is off when he hits big.

I am a huge supporter of him, but my patience is wearing off. Ishan Kishan or Samson should be there as backup instead of Saha. There should be healthy competition for the keeper spot.

I prefer Samson as he is a better batsman and keeping will improve with time.

Heck, Rahul should keep and act as a keeper batsman. Rahul should come at No.4 in Tests.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Unfortunately "your players" are mediocre players whose age is on the wrong side of 20s or early 30s. His only competition is Saha. Pant is above him. When Parthiv patel failed they didn't go back to Samir Dighe or Ratra. They moved on. They used Karthik. When he flunked they used Dhoni. At this point there is no new keeper that is competing with Pant. He deserves a solid run. Quit whining after every innings of Pant.

So now they have become my players? FYI they are also indian players or may be you only worship some special players and forget about other players? And you are calling them mediocre? If Rayudu averaging 47 in ODIs is a mediocre player then what will you call Pant?

Sir Naveen, I am not whinning here infact its guys like you who are trying pretty hard to force your opinion on me. Lol at 'he deserves a solid run'. Shows pretty clearly you are a pant f@nboy who can't take criticism of his favorite boy. I prefer players who perform even if they are 30 year olds.

Anyway you have no leg to stand on now that you have called Rayudu a mediocre player because your favorite boy Pant averages just 22 in both ODI's and T20's. His test average will also come below 30 and fans like will you run away from this thread just like KL Rahul fans did in his dedicated thread. That's both my opinion and prediction. Deal with it.

 

[jnaveen1980]

So now they have become my players? FYI they are also indian players or may be you only worship some special players and forget about other players? And you are calling them mediocre? If Rayudu averaging 47 in ODIs is a mediocre player then what will you call Pant?

Sir Naveen, I am not whinning here infact its guys like you who are trying pretty hard to force your opinion on me. Lol at 'he deserves a solid run'. Shows pretty clearly you are a pant f@nboy who can't take criticism of his favorite boy. I prefer players who perform even if they are 30 year olds.

Anyway you have no leg to stand on now that you have called Rayudu a mediocre player because your favorite boy Pant averages just 22 in both ODI's and T20's. His test average will also come below 30 and fans like will you run away from this thread just like KL Rahul fans did in his dedicated thread. That's both my opinion and prediction. Deal with it.

My only favorite batsman overall in the Indian side is Kohli. In Tests Pujara. Nobody else. I will show some bias towards them. But rest of the guys are not my guys. You seriously attack pant just for the sack of attacking him because he is associated with IPL. You have no real sound logic to back or discount a player. Rayudu came into the side without playing any list A games. How? Purely through one good IPL season. Nothing else.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

My only favorite batsman overall in the Indian side is Kohli. In Tests Pujara. Nobody else. I will show some bias towards them. But rest of the guys are not my guys. You seriously attack pant just for the sack of attacking him because he is associated with IPL. You have no real sound logic to back or discount a player. Rayudu came into the side without playing any list A games. How? Purely through one good IPL season. Nothing else.

No real sound logic? Are you alright lol? Have you not seen Pant bat in LOI's? Why can't I predict that he is soon going to fail in tests too? If you are not his fan just sit in the corner and let others express their opinion. You sound like a proper Pant f@nboy.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Another brogue kick on the face awaits for the hater of the "chosen one".
Even if he fails he"ll avg more than the ftb wkt batsman.

 

[f.b.m]

To put [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]'s infantile obsession with Rishabh Pant in perspective, he has made 100 posts out of the 700 in this thread, with the next highest poster having 30 posts. This is not even including the tiresome tirades on every Indian match thread.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

To put [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION]'s infantile obsession with Rishabh Pant in perspective, he has made 100 posts out of the 700 in this thread, with the next highest poster having 30 posts. This is not even including the tiresome tirades on every Indian match thread.

Not sure what has that got to do with the topic at hand? I am pretty sure out of those remaining 600 posts 500 were discussing me and not Pant. This post is a perfect example of that. How trolls like you contribute nothing to the topic and are more interested in attacking me than defending Pant with stats. This is a forum. Go cry in front of mods that Bhaag Viru Bhaag is posting 100 posts in the Pant thread lol.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Another brogue kick on the face awaits for the hater of the "chosen one".
Even if he fails he"ll avg more than the ftb wkt batsman.

What happened bro? Did Pant win a World Cup final for India or what? You are calling Dhoni a FTB? Fine, thats your opinion. But how does that justify Pant's performances? How is it related to this thread?

More than a Pant f@nboy you look more like a Dhoni hater who didn't get an autograph from Dhoni during one of the IPL matches. Everytime Pant is discussed you insecure fans drag Dhoni into discussion. Just goes to show how desperate you are lol.

 

[MenInG]

We should just rename this thread to MS Dhoni vs Rishabh Pant

Rishabh Pant might not be having the best of times with the bat in the West Indies, but the 21-year-old has been solid behind the stumps. While the young wicketkeeper has scored just 58 runs at an average of 19.33 in three innings in the Test series in the West Indies, he has taken a total of eight catches so far in the two Tests. On Day 3 of the second Test, Rishabh Pant caught Kraigg Brathwaite off the bowling of Ishant Sharma in West Indies' second innings to register his 50th Test dismissal as a wicketkeeper. Rishabh Pant reached the milestone in only his 11th Test, same as Adam Gilchrist, thus surpassing MS Dhoni to become the fastest Indian wicketkeeper to 50 Test dismissals.

MS Dhoni had taken 15 Tests to reach the landmark. The overall list is headed by three cricketers -- Mark Boucher, Jonny Bairstow and Tim Paine -- all of whom claimed 50 dismissals in just 10 Tests.

Pant has so far taken 48 catches in total in Test cricket but has only two stumpings to his name.

In the first Test against the West Indies, Pant took five catches while he has taken three so far in the second, which India is in complete control of.

He is expected to add to his tally on Day 4 of the second Test with India needing eight more wickets to complete a whitewash over the hosts in the two-match Test series.

India reduced the home side to 45 for two at stumps after setting them the improbable target of 468 on the third day.

Having declined to enforce the follow-on after the Caribbean team were dismissed at the start of the day for 117 to trail by 299 runs on first innings, India captain Virat Kohli declared his side's second innings at 168 for four in the day's final session.

Left to negotiate 13 testing overs from India's pace attack before the close of play, West Indies lost openers Kraigg Brathwaite and John Campbell to Ishant Sharma and Mohammed Shami respectively, leaving Darren Bravo – who survived a blow on the helmet in the final over of the evening from Jasprit Bumrah – and Shamarh Brooks to carry the fight into the fourth day.

https://sports.ndtv.com/west-indies...mp=1&akamai-rum=off&__twitter_impression=true

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Don't shoot the messenger. Ravi Shastri's latest comment on Pant

'Talent or no talent, you can't let the team down.'

Now why will a coach who is getting 8-10 crores per annum say something like this? Surely it can't be jealousy?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Time is running out for him. Samson was discarded just after 1 T20 match.

 

[Abdullah719]

"Am I There Only To Play Tabla?": Ravi Shastri Reacts On "Rap On The Knuckles" Remark On Rishabh Pant

Spoiler

Rishabh Pant has been heavily criticised by fans and cricket pundits for his shot selection and inability to finish off games for India in the limited overs format. Even team head coach Ravi Shastri had said that if Rishabh Pant keeps on playing rash shots, he will receive a "rap on the knuckles". Speaking to Hindustan Times on Thursday, Ravi Shastri defended his statement and said that if someone goofed up, he would pull them up.

Ravi Shastri was asked if different views from the team management added pressure on Pant. Shastri replied that Pant was getting all the support he needed and he is a world class player.

"Don't say team management, I spoke about 'the rap on the knuckles'. If someone goofs up, I have to pull them up. Am I there only to play tabla? But this guy is world class, this guy can be destructive, can be a destroyer. And we will give him all the support that he needs to prosper in international cricket," Ravi Shastri said.

Speaking on the criticism Pant has faced for his poor shot selection and inability to finish off games for the country, Shastri said that experts can speak but Pant is a special kid.

"Experts, they have a job, they can speak. Pant is a special kid and he has already done enough. And he is only going to learn. This team management will back him to the hilt," Shastri added.

Rishabh Pant has scored 229 runs in 10 innings in One-day Internationals and in the shortest format, Pant has 325 runs to his name in 19 innings.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/rav...on-rishabh-pant-2107558?pfrom=home-topstories

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

"Am I There Only To Play Tabla?": Ravi Shastri Reacts On "Rap On The Knuckles" Remark On Rishabh Pant

Spoiler

Rishabh Pant has been heavily criticised by fans and cricket pundits for his shot selection and inability to finish off games for India in the limited overs format. Even team head coach Ravi Shastri had said that if Rishabh Pant keeps on playing rash shots, he will receive a "rap on the knuckles". Speaking to Hindustan Times on Thursday, Ravi Shastri defended his statement and said that if someone goofed up, he would pull them up.

Ravi Shastri was asked if different views from the team management added pressure on Pant. Shastri replied that Pant was getting all the support he needed and he is a world class player.

"Don't say team management, I spoke about 'the rap on the knuckles'. If someone goofs up, I have to pull them up. Am I there only to play tabla? But this guy is world class, this guy can be destructive, can be a destroyer. And we will give him all the support that he needs to prosper in international cricket," Ravi Shastri said.

Speaking on the criticism Pant has faced for his poor shot selection and inability to finish off games for the country, Shastri said that experts can speak but Pant is a special kid.

"Experts, they have a job, they can speak. Pant is a special kid and he has already done enough. And he is only going to learn. This team management will back him to the hilt," Shastri added.

Rishabh Pant has scored 229 runs in 10 innings in One-day Internationals and in the shortest format, Pant has 325 runs to his name in 19 innings.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/rav...on-rishabh-pant-2107558?pfrom=home-topstories

Finally, the coach has declared that pant will be backed to the hilt.
He is a very special player its good that both kohli and ravi believe in him.

So for all the haters:
Pant will be backed until he becomes consistent, it might take 30 or 40 or 80 matches, doesn't matter. He is the chosen one.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pant will have failures but he should be backed. He is the future. We have to look at WC 2023.

Losing some bilaterals these days is not a big deal as long as you don't want a repeat of WC '19 semi final.

He should also be batting at 5, and not 4. I am not sure but I feel that we will have MS back in the side so they are trying Pant at 4, which is wrong. MS is not our future, so we should not be forcing Pant to make him a no.4.

Iyer and Gill to fight it at 4 and Pant should bat at 5.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

India should.plau Dhoni in the 2023 world cup in India. Win or lose, it would be a dream farewell for the 42 year old Dhoni

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Finally, the coach has declared that pant will be backed to the hilt.
He is a very special player its good that both kohli and ravi believe in him.

So for all the haters:
Pant will be backed until he becomes consistent, it might take 30 or 40 or 80 matches, doesn't matter. He is the chosen one.

What a dumb post. You are ready to give him 80 matches? He will never become consistent. You can bookmark this post.

Not even Raina and Yuvi got those many matches to prove themselves. They were much more special than the so called next big thing. And LOL at the chosen one.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant will have failures but he should be backed. He is the future. We have to look at WC 2023.

Losing some bilaterals these days is not a big deal as long as you don't want a repeat of WC '19 semi final.

He should also be batting at 5, and not 4. I am not sure but I feel that we will have MS back in the side so they are trying Pant at 4, which is wrong. MS is not our future, so we should not be forcing Pant to make him a no.4.

Iyer and Gill to fight it at 4 and Pant should bat at 5.

Pant will have failures? When did he succeed in LOI's to start with? And you want him to bat at 5? Not even Dhoni used to bat there in LOI's. Losing bilaterals is not a big deal? Well that's the only thing we are winning these days and you don't mind us losing those as well?

It shows pretty clearly that you are Pant f@nboys and wouldn't mind India losing the match as long as your favorite boy is playing. Fans like you should stay away from national teams and restrict themselves to that Popcorn League.

 

[Titan24]

"Am I There Only To Play Tabla?": Ravi Shastri Reacts On "Rap On The Knuckles" Remark On Rishabh Pant

Spoiler

Rishabh Pant has been heavily criticised by fans and cricket pundits for his shot selection and inability to finish off games for India in the limited overs format. Even team head coach Ravi Shastri had said that if Rishabh Pant keeps on playing rash shots, he will receive a "rap on the knuckles". Speaking to Hindustan Times on Thursday, Ravi Shastri defended his statement and said that if someone goofed up, he would pull them up.

Ravi Shastri was asked if different views from the team management added pressure on Pant. Shastri replied that Pant was getting all the support he needed and he is a world class player.

"Don't say team management, I spoke about 'the rap on the knuckles'. If someone goofs up, I have to pull them up. Am I there only to play tabla? But this guy is world class, this guy can be destructive, can be a destroyer. And we will give him all the support that he needs to prosper in international cricket," Ravi Shastri said.

Speaking on the criticism Pant has faced for his poor shot selection and inability to finish off games for the country, Shastri said that experts can speak but Pant is a special kid.

"Experts, they have a job, they can speak. Pant is a special kid and he has already done enough. And he is only going to learn. This team management will back him to the hilt," Shastri added.

Rishabh Pant has scored 229 runs in 10 innings in One-day Internationals and in the shortest format, Pant has 325 runs to his name in 19 innings.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/rav...on-rishabh-pant-2107558?pfrom=home-topstories

I wonder why Pak management didnt back Umer Akmal to the hilt.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I wonder why Pak management didnt back Umer Akmal to the hilt.

He got more chances than he deserved. Pant is our Umar Akmal. Also its funny to see some posters who were abusing Ravi Shastri few days ago are now supporting him just because he has shown confidence in Pant lol.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pant will have failures? When did he succeed in LOI's to start with? And you want him to bat at 5? Not even Dhoni used to bat there in LOI's. Losing bilaterals is not a big deal? Well that's the only thing we are winning these days and you don't mind us losing those as well?

It shows pretty clearly that you are Pant f@nboys and wouldn't mind India losing the match as long as your favorite boy is playing. Fans like you should stay away from national teams and restrict themselves to that Popcorn League.

Lol, man, who exactly is Pant that I will be his f@nboy?? He has done nothing special till now which will make me his fan.

Let me tell you, he is the best we have for that position, will be keeping gloves and is our future. Accept and wish he does well, or else the middle order issue will never be sorted.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol, man, who exactly is Pant that I will be his f@nboy?? He has done nothing special till now which will make me his fan.

Let me tell you, he is the best we have for that position, will be keeping gloves and is our future. Accept and wish he does well, or else the middle order issue will never be sorted.

Time to try someone else now. He has an average of 20 in 32 LOI matches and he has been playing mostly at 4-6 position. So there should be no excuses for his failures. Not even Dhoni used to bat that higher in LOI's. You can't say that he is the best we have without giving as many chances as he got to other players like Samson who was dropped after just 1 T20 match. Can you see the hypocrisy? Pant deserves 80 matches while others do not even deserve 8 matches?

 

[Ab Fan]

Time to try someone else now. He has an average of 20 in 32 LOI matches and he has been playing mostly at 4-6 position. So there should be no excuses for his failures. Not even Dhoni used to bat that higher in LOI's. You can't say that he is the best we have without giving as many chances as he got to other players like Samson who was dropped after just 1 T20 match. Can you see the hypocrisy? Pant deserves 80 matches while others do not even deserve 8 matches?

No, there hasn't been any hypocrisy. He has fared well in Tests and T20s till now. He is unproven in ODIs only where he has played 12 games. I will give him one more complete ODI series to prove himself.

 

[HappyWarsFan]

No, there hasn't been any hypocrisy. He has fared well in Tests and T20s till now. He is unproven in ODIs only where he has played 12 games. I will give him one more complete ODI series to prove himself.

India don't need pant. They can keep playing Dhoni, he's still a good player who should be at no 4. Pant is just too much of a hack dude has no patience.

 

[Ab Fan]

India don't need pant. They can keep playing Dhoni, he's still a good player who should be at no 4. Pant is just too much of a hack dude has no patience.

Why wasn't he played at 4 in WC semi final when the situation was tailor-made for him?

Dhoni is there just delaying his retirement, maybe some contract would be there, he will continue a year or two. However, there is now way he will be making to 2023 WC and anyways he shouldn't. We should start investing on youngsters who will be the future.