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Yuvraj singh averaged in 20s after nearly 80 matches,dada backed him as a result of which we won two world cups and he is the sole reason why dhoni ****** exist,the man who was behind every trophy that your fake god lifted.

Similarly kohli recognised pants talent and thats the reason why he is backing him, anyways rishabh pant is already a better test cricketer than msd and in t20s he already has same no. Of fifties as the ftb wicketkeeper.
Only in odis he is behind, and its ok, thoda bahut gareebon ke liye chhod dena chahiye.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yuvraj singh averaged in 20s after nearly 80 matches,dada backed him as a result of which we won two world cups and he is the sole reason why dhoni ****** exist,the man who was behind every trophy that your fake god lifted.

Similarly kohli recognised pants talent and thats the reason why he is backing him, anyways rishabh pant is already a better test cricketer than msd and in t20s he already has same no. Of fifties as the ftb wicketkeeper.
Only in odis he is behind, and its ok, thoda bahut gareebon ke liye chhod dena chahiye.
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these r some big words.... wont sit down with most dhoni fans lol
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yuvraj singh averaged in 20s after nearly 80 matches,dada backed him as a result of which we won two world cups and he is the sole reason why dhoni ****** exist,the man who was behind every trophy that your fake god lifted.

Similarly kohli recognised pants talent and thats the reason why he is backing him, anyways rishabh pant is already a better test cricketer than msd and in t20s he already has same no. Of fifties as the ftb wicketkeeper.
Only in odis he is behind, and its ok, thoda bahut gareebon ke liye chhod dena chahiye.
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This is not a Dhoni vs Pant thread. Dhoni is gone. How about you concentrate on Pant's performances without bringing in Dhoni? You argument looks pretty weak when you try to bring in other players into discussion because you have nothing to show for Pant in LOIs.

You can cry all you want but Pant has been a total flop in LOI's so far. Your last line actually tells about you more than others. :inti
 
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these r some big words.... wont sit down with most dhoni fans lol
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As i explained dada backed yuvi as a result of which we won two tournament, yuvi wasn't consistent and i am sure similar type of stupid fans must have criticised dada for backing yuvi but he held on to him and the rest is history.
 
He should of had his papers stamped (at least for a while) after his shot in the WC SF.

India were recovering well and then he played one of the dumbest shots I've seen and got India back into a hole and effectively out of the game.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
As i explained dada backed yuvi as a result of which we won two tournament, yuvi wasn't consistent and i am sure similar type of stupid fans must have criticised dada for backing yuvi but he held on to him and the rest is history.
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Yuvi won the natwest final for India. Not to mention the countless number of cameos and match changing innings he played for India.

Let's see what your boy can do in LOI's for India. So far he has been a big disappointment and has made his fans look stupid on internet forums. :inti
 
Aman said:
He should of had his papers stamped (at least for a while) after his shot in the WC SF.

India were recovering well and then he played one of the dumbest shots I've seen and got India back into a hole and effectively out of the game.
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No. He deserves to get at least 80 more matches. Till then he can do whatever he likes because according to his fans he is the 'chosen one'. LOL. :inti
 
He is an ordinary 50 overs format player! India should invest in someone else in the ODI format.
 
He is a good player but not as big as people thought he might be! not yet anyway
 
Interesting fact:

After same no. Of matches in t20is

Ms Dhoni
Average- 23.9
Str rate-105
Half centuries - 0

Rishabh Pant
Average- 20. 3
Str rate-123
Half centuries - 2

But But pant should be dropped.

Way to nurture young talent.
Do kaudi ke experts.
 
I think Pant fans have already decided that he is better than Dhoni so why are these fans bringing Dhoni's stats again and again to justify his poor performances? He is the chosen one only for 2 kodi ke fans who have never seen any quality player in their lives. Pant is like andhon mein kaana raja for these plastic fans.

Also comparing him with Dhoni is going to get better and better with each match because Dhoni had an average of 50 in ODI's that too batting mostly at number 7 position. I don't think a tullaybaaz like Pant can ever achieve that in his career not to forget 10k runs which Dhoni scored.

It's because of Pant a has been player like Suresh Raina is also eyeing a comeback. He knows no. 4 batting spot is open and he at this age can do better than the so called Next Big Thing. :inti
 
Pant haters are doing a very good job in keeping him in limelight. Lol on their obsession with Pant.

Even Pant would be wondering," Bhai, I just started my career, kyun itna limelight de rahe do.. Why not let me do my job..there are much bigger players out there, unki lo na".
 
Ab Fan said:
Pant haters are doing a very good job in keeping him in limelight. Lol on their obsession with Pant.

Even Pant would be wondering," Bhai, I just started my career, kyun itna limelight de rahe do.. Why not let me do my job..there are much bigger players out there, unki lo na".
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When f@nboys like you overhype an average player like Pant then he is going to get criticised in front of his fans if he doesn't live upto their expectations.

Mind you we are here to discuss a player's performance with fellow posters so kindly don't use this obsession thing when you are in a thread which is specifically made for the player in question. Also when you don't have anything to argue its better to stay away rather than posting just for the sake of it.

He is playing for India so he is already in the limelight and lots of ex cricketers have also criticised his shot selection and poor performance. Will you also call them obsessed now? :inti
 
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] I see a perfect hack in him.bring on proper talent.India have better options I believe.
 
DRsohail said:
[MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] I see a perfect hack in him.bring on proper talent.India have better options I believe.
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He is the chosen one bro. He will get 80 matches to prove himself whereas guys like samson will get only 1 T20 match to prove himself. I am not saying Samson is better than Pant but everyone deserves equal opportunity.

If you ask me then I will say that Rishabh Pant has a body of Suresh Raina, brain of Umar Akmal and fan following of Shahid Afridi. :inti
 
Pant will/should be drooped until he becomes more dependable. A lot of batters go through this phase. Mentally strong ones comeback even more blazingly. I see Ishan Kishan or Sanju Samson given opportunities in LOI's very soon.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
When f@nboys like you overhype an average player like Pant then he is going to get criticised in front of his fans if he doesn't live upto their expectations.

Mind you we are here to discuss a player's performance with fellow posters so kindly don't use this obsession thing when you are in a thread which is specifically made for the player in question. Also when you don't have anything to argue its better to stay away rather than posting just for the sake of it.

He is playing for India so he is already in the limelight and lots of ex cricketers have also criticised his shot selection and poor performance. Will you also call them obsessed now? :inti
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Which ex-cricketers and what did they said?

You are nothing but just a bitter guy obsessed with him because he is a product of IPL. And I can say whatever I want just like you..I didn't quoted you when I said that.
 
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Ab Fan said:
Which ex-cricketers and what did they said?

You are nothing but just a bitter guy obsessed with him because he is a product of IPL. And I can say whatever I want just like you..I didn't quoted you when I said that.
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Samson is also playing in IPL .He ias not only against IPL he is against this fake talent delivring nothing.He is right.,
 
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Ab Fan said:
Which ex-cricketers and what did they said?

You are nothing but just a bitter guy obsessed with him because he is a product of IPL. And I can say whatever I want just like you..I didn't quoted you when I said that.
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He is not a product of IPL but he is overhyped by IPL fans. IPL didn't find him. I know you are a part time cricket fan but you should have known that. If criticising a player who is averaging almost 20 in LOI's makes me a bitter guy then what will you call guys like yourself who are defending him? A f@nboy?

And yes you can post whatever you like but if you don't have anything to back your argument you should just stay away. Also you are indirectly trying to stop people from criticising your boy Pant. It seems he is above criticism and me or anyone else doesn't have the right to point that. If we do we become bitter guys lol. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He is not a product of IPL but he is overhyped by IPL fans. IPL didn't find him. I know you are a part time cricket fan but you should have known that. If criticising a player who is averaging almost 20 in LOI's makes me a bitter guy then what will you call guys like yourself who are defending him? A f@nboy?

And yes you can post whatever you like but if you don't have anything to back your argument you should just stay away. Also you are indirectly trying to stop people from criticising your boy Pant. It seems he is above criticism and me or anyone else doesn't have the right to point that. If we do we become bitter guys lol. :inti
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I always back my argument but then you end up with nothing to say, LOL.

You can criticise whomsoever you want but I will always be against the fact that if someone has the talent and had a good start in Test cricket and T20s but for the first 12 ODI matches, he has been mediocre,then we should be criticising that person.

Criticism begins when someone is failing continuously for 2-3 years and is still backed. Pant's career in ODIs started in 2019 and if I am not wrong, we are still in 2019. Do correct me if you are in 2021 and I am still in '19. He had a good start in test and T20s. We can start criticising if he continues to fail till end of 2020.

It's possible that he can become a next big thing for India and its also possible that he can crash out the way and end up his career as a nobody, but till now he hasn't done this bad that we give up on him in the same year he started.
 
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DRsohail said:
Samson is also playing in IPL .He ias not only against IPL he is against this fake talent delivring nothing.He is right.,
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Fake talent has hundreds in England and Australia, if you are looking a no.4 in him, I am sorry. He is your no.5.

Try Gill and Iyer at 4. Every player has its own slot.
 
Ab Fan said:
I always back my argument but then you end up with nothing to say, LOL.
You can criticise whomsoever you want but I will always be against the fact that if someone has the talent and had a good start in Test cricket and T20s but for the first 12 ODI matches, he has been mediocre,then we should be criticising that person.

Criticism begins when someone is failing continuously for 2-3 years and is still backed.Pant's career in ODIs started in 2019 and if I am not wrong, we are still in 2019. Do correct me if you are in 2021 and I am still in '19. He had a good start in test and T20s. We can start criticising if he continues to fail till end of 2020.

It's possible that he can become a next big thing for India and its also possible that he can crash out the way and end up his career as a nobody, but till now he hasn't done this bad that we give up on him in the same year he started.
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Lol what? Most of the time you are just talking trash and what do you have to say about Pant's performances in the last couple of series? Let's see what you can come up with now.

According to you criticism begins after 2-3 years of continuously failing? Really? What to do when some players are discarded after just 2-3 matches? How will they prove themselves? Why don't you speak up when they are dropped?

I can bet even you have judged a player on the basis of just 2-3 matches here and wanted him dropped from the team. I have seen fans discarding players like Deepak Chahar, Rayudu(who was actually performing), Manish Pandey, Khaleel after just 3-4 matches. Why didn't they apply your theory of giving them chances for 2-3 years continuously?

I will remind you of your hypocrisy next fime you discard a player after 2-3 matches. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
Fake talent has hundreds in England and Australia, if you are looking a no.4 in him, I am sorry. He is your no.5.

Try Gill and Iyer at 4. Every player has its own slot.
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Never seen anyone gloryfying a test hundred in England in a match which was both a dead rubber and lost. You make it look like he is going to get selected based on those hundreds for every format available in cricket. That's not how it works.

As I said earlier he is our Umar Akmal and some of you are acting exactly like Umar Akmal fans. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Lol what? Most of the time you are just talking trash and what do you have to say about Pant's performances in the last couple of series? Let's see what you can come up with now.

According to you criticism begins after 2-3 years of continuously failing? Really? What to do when some players are discarded after just 2-3 matches? How will they prove themselves? Why don't you speak up when they are dropped?

I can bet even you have judged a player on the basis of just 2-3 matches here and wanted him dropped from the team. I have seen fans discarding players like Deepak Chahar, Rayudu(who was actually performing), Manish Pandey, Khaleel after just 3-4 matches. Why didn't they apply your theory of giving them chances for 2-3 years continuously?

I will remind you of your hypocrisy next fime you discard a player after 2-3 matches. :inti
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You have zero understanding of cricket, hence you think a good point made is a trash, a thing of a bitter guy.

Remember, you were the one who was supporting an absolute trash cricketer Vijay Shankar and calling him better than Pandya. Shankar was exposed in the WC and shown doors half way lol. He was the one expected to bat at 4 but most often than not, Pandya ,a no.7, was asked to bat higher than him. Now, Pandya is no Kapil Dev, no Stokes or Shakib but he is a very good player in his own right. He is much better than a trash like Vijay Shankar you were supporting.

Manish Pandey had been given plenty of chances but he has failed to make it. Why didnt we criticised him?

Kedar Jadhav was backed for 3 years in ODI cricket but what happened in WC??? He was coming to bat at no.7 and played a few overs to bat, absolutely insignificant and a complete waste of 3 years before WC. You never gave any answer or any criticism for that.

Rayudu did a decent job at no.4 but let's not fool ourselves. He was not going to make any major impact at no.4 in Indian team in WC and hence he was dropped. Actually, there was no one good enough at 4 and hence Dhoni should have taken the responsibility. Instead, Pant who had no international ODI cricket experience was made "Bali ka Bakra".

Pant has done better than all the names you mentioned in test cricket and t20s, hence he gets more games. He has performed in tests, he deserves more chances than trash that haven't performed anywhere, lol.
 
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Ab Fan said:
Fake talent has hundreds in England and Australia, if you are looking a no.4 in him, I am sorry. He is your no.5.

Try Gill and Iyer at 4. Every player has its own slot.
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Hundreds.I know about those useless hundreds,He has failed most of the time in LOI.
 
DRsohail said:
Who has zero hundreds with 11 test matches under his built as well as many LOI?
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You should understand that if someone has got test hundreds and is a naturally aggressive batsmen, then the chances of him succeeding in LOIs is quite high, if and a big if we remain patient enough.

Others don't have test hundreds because maybe those 27-28 year old blokes were not good enough to make it to test cricket while here an 21 year old has made it to test cricket.
 
Ab Fan said:
You have zero understanding of cricket, hence you think a good point made is a trash, a thing of a bitter guy.

Remember, you were the one who was supporting an absolute trash cricketer Vijay Shankar and calling him better than Pandya. Shankar was exposed in the WC and shown doors half way lol. He was the one expected to bat at 4 but most often than not, Pandya ,a no.7, was asked to bat higher than him. Now, Pandya is no Kapil Dev, no Stokes or Shakib but he is a very good player in his own right. He is much better than a trash like Vijay Shankar you were supporting.

Manish Pandey had been given plenty of chances but he has failed to make it. Why didnt we criticised him?

Kedar Jadhav was backed for 3 years in ODI cricket but what happened in WC??? He was coming to bat at no.7 and played a few overs to bat, absolutely insignificant and a complete waste of 3 years before WC. You never gave any answer or any criticism for that.

Rayudu did a decent job at no.4 but let's not fool ourselves. He was not going to make any major impact at no.4 in Indian team in WC and hence he was dropped. Actually, there was no one good enough at 4 and hence Dhoni should have taken the responsibility. Instead, Pant who had no international ODI cricket experience was made "Bali ka Bakra".

Pant has done better than all the names you mentioned in test cricket and t20s, hence he gets more games. He has performed in tests, he deserves more chances than trash that haven't performed anywhere, lol.
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I told you that you are a hypocrite. This quoted piece of trash is a perfect example.

Vijay Shankar got exposed after 2-3 matches? Now where is your theory of not criticising a player before 2-3 years of continuous failing? Shankar bowled pretty well against Pakistan it was not his fault if the captain didn't show any confidence in him. I am not his fan but I am using his example to expose the hyppcrisy of fans like you. Pandya has got so many chances so far. Sorry but he hasn't set the world on fire. Give these same number of chances to other players they can also perform once in 6-7 matches.

You keep crying about Dhoni taking up the responsibility in the semi final. When will your big boys learn to perform then? You would have still cried like a baby had they sent Dhoni at 5.

And its funny when a part time cricket fan like you questions the knowledge of others. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
You should understand that if someone has got test hundreds and is a naturally aggressive batsmen, then the chances of him succeeding in LOIs is quite high, if and a big if we remain patient enough.

Others don't have test hundreds because maybe those 27-28 year old blokes were not good enough to make it to test cricket while here an 21 year old has made it to test cricket.
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Lets see I willl be happy if he does well in LOI but from what i have seen he is going to struggle on big stage.He may get runs here and there but never on consistent basis or on big stage.I am neutral here.
 
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Ab Fan said:
You should understand that if someone has got test hundreds and is a naturally aggressive batsmen, then the chances of him succeeding in LOIs is quite high, if and a big if we remain patient enough.

Others don't have test hundreds because maybe those 27-28 year old blokes were not good enough to make it to test cricket while here an 21 year old has made it to test cricket.
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Do you know how many test hundreds Sahibzada Nawabzada Boomboomzada Shahid Khan Afridi has? Do you know Umar Akmal had centuries in New Zealand and Australia? Do you know Afridi had to take the help of his bowling to remain in the ODI and T20 side otherwise his tullaybaazi wouldn't have helped him prolong his career. Accept that you are a f@nboy may be then we can understand your emotional senitments towards Pant. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I told you that you are a hypocrite. This quoted piece of trash is a perfect example.

<B>Vijay Shankar got exposed after 2-3 matches? Now where is your theory of not criticising a player before 2-3 years of continuous failing?</B>Shankar bowled pretty well against Pakistan it was not his fault if the captain didn't show any confidence in him. I am not his fan but I am using his example to expose the hyppcrisy of fans like you. Pandya has got so many chances so far. Sorry but he hasn't set the world on fire. Give these same number of chances to other players they can also perform once in 6-7 matches.

You keep crying about Dhoni taking up the responsibility in the semi final. When will your big boys learn to perform then? You would have still cried like a baby had they sent Dhoni at 5.

And its funny when a part time cricket fan like you questions the knowledge of others. :inti
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He is trash, so he got discarded.

That's why I told you go and learn some cricket. Then talk.

Regarding me a part-time cricket fan, yeah, I am gonna assume I am so good in other fields that my cricketing knowledge pales in front of the rest, hence a part-time. Sure!
 
DRsohail said:
Lets see I willl be happy if he does well in LOI but from what i have seen he is going to struggle on big stage.He may get runs here and there but never on consistent basis or on big stage.I am neutral here.
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I can only say that I am also a neutral here.

Some are just bitter and obsessed though so calling me a Pant f@nboy, lol.
 
Ab Fan said:
He is trash, so he got discarded.

That's why I told you go and learn some cricket. Then talk.

Regarding me a part-time cricket fan, yeah, I am gonna assume I am so good in other fields that my cricketing knowledge pales in front of the rest, hence a part-time. Sure!
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I also called you a hypocrite and with every reply you are proving me right. I can see your knowledge about cricket pretty clearly. You are someone who just likes to drop his little fingers on the keyboard without thinking much. Try again and you will start making sense for once. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
I can only say that I am also a neutral here.

Some are just bitter and obsessed though so calling me a Pant f@nboy, lol.
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Please stop lol. You are nowhere close to being a neutral. You are just a hypocrite who has different rules for different players. :inti
 
Not even a single point explaining why he shouldn't get a long rope like many other players, just spewing hatred everywhere.
If he does well in the upcoming series vs sa, these ****** will get a phainty of a lifetime.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Not even a single point explaining why he shouldn't get a long rope like many other players, just spewing hatred everywhere.
If he does well in the upcoming series vs sa, these ****** will get a phainty of a lifetime.
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If he performs against South Africa I will praise him just like I did in the World Cup. But you will never criticise him. That's the difference between plastic fans like you and me. I am not a blind hater or a crazy f@nboy like you guys.

I also don't degrade a player like Dhoni just to justify your favorite boy's performance. Everytime Pant is criticised fans like you start crying and compare him with Dhoni rather than talking about his performance. If you can't respect a player like Dhoni chances are that you are also not a well wisher of Pant. You will most probably be abusing him and his family too. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
This guy hates Dhoni. He is a thankless fan. Just because he doesn't havw anything to defend his overhyped boy he has brought Dhoni's name into this thread. A pretty insecure individual indeed. :inti
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Thats why I did not reply in detail. Comparing a hack with a legend and that too by selective stats.
 
DRsohail said:
Thats why I did not reply in detail. Comparing a hack with a legend and that too by selective stats.
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I can understand the frustration of some fans because of Dhoni not taking retirement but to question all his career because of that is foolish. May be these new fans didn't know that Kapil and Sachin also took late retirement from cricket. Why don't they put a question mark over their careers? :inti
 
DRsohail said:
Thats why I did not reply in detail. Comparing a hack with a legend and that too by selective stats.
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The point of that comparison was to show that even legends had bad start to their career, what if he was removed after those performances, the team management backed him because they saw some talent in him, there was no intent of harming dhonis t20 legacy bcoz it doesn't exist.His numbers are quite ordinary in t20s.
 
DRsohail said:
Thats why I did not reply in detail. Comparing a hack with a legend and that too by selective stats.
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Overseas stats are not really selective they are one of the most important stats which tell us how a player performed in testing conditions.
How can u even question the significance of overseas performances is beyond me.
 
Some fans are funny. They talk about T20 legacy in one thread and in the other thread they talk about not caring about bilaterals T20's after losing just one match against South Africa. :inti
 
VVS Laxman would be kicking himself that why didn't he play in this era where performances in test cricket would have helped him getting selected in ODI and T20 teams. Poor guy. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
VVS Laxman would be kicking himself that why didn't he play in this era where performances in test cricket would have helped him getting selected in ODI and T20 teams. Poor guy. :inti
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Vvs played 80 odis this proves my point and counters your.
Please for the love of god come up with a logical reply.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Vvs played 80 odis this proves my point and counters your.
Please for the love of god come up with a logical reply.
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How many times VVS got dropped from ODI teams? And you are not letting selectors drop Pant for even once. VVS was criticised during that era for his ODI batting. So what problem do you have if Pant is also getting criticised? If Pant doesn't perform he should be dropped and if he is that special he can always come back. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
How many times VVS got dropped from ODI teams? And you are not letting selectors drop Pant for even once. VVS was criticised during that era for his ODI batting. So what problem do you have if Pant is also getting criticised? If Pant doesn't perform he should be dropped and if he is that special he can always come back. :inti
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Giving him ample chances before dropping him is all i want. 12 odis arent enough not by any stretch of imagination. 40 odis will do.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Not even a single point explaining why he shouldn't get a long rope like many other players, just spewing hatred everywhere.
If he does well in the upcoming series vs sa, these ****** will get a phainty of a lifetime.
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Its pretty clear that if he doesn't bat with but more responsibility, he is a goner. Kohli surely can't make the same mistake as he did with Rahul.

Pant's role in middle order is to finish off innings, its a well defined role. The roadmap is laid for him by BCCI, its about time he adjusts his game or make way for....
 
40 is too many. But I say just back him for around 25 ODIs and see if he can realise his talent. Rohit Sharma got much more leeway so why not pant?
 
Either Rishabh Pant will go Adam Gilchrist way or Matthew Wade way it's upto him.
 
Get him out already . Tries to hit the ball way too hard thus looses shape. Can't keep wickets. Looks nervous.
Another Umar akmal kind of patronizing of a cricketer from India.
Was a big fan of this guy but now I feel Samson or Kishan needs to be drafted into this team
 
Haripotter said:
Get him out already . Tries to hit the ball way too hard thus looses shape. Can't keep wickets. Looks nervous.
Another Umar akmal kind of patronizing of a cricketer from India.
Was a big fan of this guy but now I feel Samson or Kishan needs to be drafted into this team
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Exactly this. I have been saying this for so many months. :inti
 
Should be dropped. His confidence is shattered and he is all over the place.

Samson or Ishan Kishan should be tried out soon.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yuvraj singh averaged in 20s after nearly 80 matches,dada backed him as a result of which we won two world cups and he is the sole reason why dhoni ****** exist,the man who was behind every trophy that your fake god lifted.
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That is because Yuvraj won us at least a dozen matches by the time he played 80 including the one against Aus in the semifinal of the ICC which was the second game of his career and that legendary Natwest trophy game with Kaif. Displayed his talent, gift of timing, clutchness, aestheticism and big hitting accumen against the best of the fast bowlers (Ripped apart Donald a few times if you remember). Already a proven match winner by the he had 50 matches under his belt. Now tell me what Pant has done so far in limited overs to deserve such backing?
 
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Has he gained weight? Doesn't look fit at all. I am terribly missing MSD behind the stumps now, we got away against BD but his childish mistakes will cost us matches against bigger teams.

Can anyone tell me how is Samson as a keeper? I neither follow domestics (Except for Gill and Dube) nor watch IPL.

BTW he is doing pretty good in tests so should be our first choice keeper overseas.
 
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because he is so popular, the selectors will keep picking him over other less known prospects.
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Pant always seemed like the second coming of Shahid Afridi to me but whether we like it or not, he got into the team by scoring huge runs in Ranji Trophy and IPL at a high strike rate. We might not like how he scores runs, but he has been able to score them in the same competitions as all other domestic players.
 
Pant (gilchrist) is in drains just like unmukt chand (sachin), ritendra sodhi (kapil), hemang badani (robin), dinesh mongia (jadeja) and sairaj bahutule (kumble).

We destroyed a good raw talent by unnecessary hype, hopla nd stupid comparisons. Same thing going on with shubhman gill. I think we inherted from our neighbours "how to hype and destroy young talents"
 
Hyperion66 said:
That is because Yuvraj won us at least a dozen matches by the time he played 80 including the one against Aus in the semifinal of the ICC which was the second game of his career and that legendary Natwest trophy game with Kaif. Displayed his talent, gift of timing, clutchness, aestheticism and big hitting accumen against the best of the fast bowlers (Ripped apart Donald a few times if you remember). Already a proven match winner by the he had 50 matches under his belt. Now tell me what Pant has done so far in limited overs to deserve such backing?
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He is either going to post Dhoni's T20 stats or remind you of Pant's two test hundreds. :inti
 
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TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Pant always seemed like the second coming of Shahid Afridi to me but whether we like it or not, he got into the team by scoring huge runs in Ranji Trophy and IPL at a high strike rate. We might not like how he scores runs, but he has been able to score them in the same competitions as all other domestic players.
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He has got enough chances in LOI's. It's time to move forward. If he is that good he can always make a comeback just like other big legends in the past. :inti
 
Kroll said:
Is he going to be as good as Umar Akmal? :yk
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Right now he is just like Umar Akmal.

India would be wise to give the guy a few months break, get back to domestics and build up his form and confidence. Playing international cricket is clearly not helping him.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Pant always seemed like the second coming of Shahid Afridi to me but whether we like it or not, he got into the team by scoring huge runs in Ranji Trophy and IPL at a high strike rate. We might not like how he scores runs, but he has been able to score them in the same competitions as all other domestic players.
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At least when Afridi managed to hit, it stayed hit, can't say the same about Pant, he hardly connects these days. On top of that looks totally nervous and overweight. I hope he regains his form and confidence in the limited overs. He needs to try and play with a straight bat, can't believe I am saying this but with those ugly hacks his batting looks worse than Fakhar Zaman's at the moment.
 
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Hyperion66 said:
That is because Yuvraj won us at least a dozen matches by the time he played 80 including the one against Aus in the semifinal of the ICC which was the second game of his career and that legendary Natwest trophy game with Kaif. Displayed his talent, gift of timing, clutchness, aestheticism and big hitting accumen against the best of the fast bowlers (Ripped apart Donald a few times if you remember). Already a proven match winner by the he had 50 matches under his belt. Now tell me what Pant has done so far in limited overs to deserve such backing?
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I think it was his first ODI match.
 
Pants looks very confused. He is natural talent that they shouldn’t try to tame but they are and he looks half the player.
 
Hyperion66 said:
That is because Yuvraj won us at least a dozen matches by the time he played 80 including the one against Aus in the semifinal of the ICC which was the second game of his career and that legendary Natwest trophy game with Kaif. Displayed his talent, gift of timing, clutchness, aestheticism and big hitting accumen against the best of the fast bowlers (Ripped apart Donald a few times if you remember). Already a proven match winner by the he had 50 matches under his belt. Now tell me what Pant has done so far in limited overs to deserve such backing?
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Very harsh to compare Pant to Yuvraj. Yuvraj was one of the most famous cricketer in the world even in early 2000s. Pant isn't even rated highly in India let alone outside of it. Yuvraj was possibly the biggest factor in India's rise as an ODI juggernaut in mid-late 2000s, dude won dozens of matches for India.

Pant is still a good talent for India, he doesn't need to be compared to legends.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Very harsh to compare Pant to Yuvraj. Yuvraj was one of the most famous cricketer in the world even in early 2000s. Pant isn't even rated highly in India let alone outside of it. Yuvraj was possibly the biggest factor in India's rise as an ODI juggernaut in mid-late 2000s, dude won dozens of matches for India.

Pant is still a good talent for India, he doesn't need to be compared to legends.
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I didn't compare, the gentleman who I quoted used Yuvi's example to justify Pant's limited over selection despite recent form. Agree completely with what you said, there is no comparison whatsoever.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Yuvraj was one of the most famous cricketer in the world even in early 2000s. Pant isn't even rated highly in India let alone outside of it. Yuvraj was possibly the biggest factor in India's rise as an ODI juggernaut in mid-late 2000s, dude won dozens of matches for India.
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Yuvraj only got into his best from 2005. Until then he was pretty inconsistent. So if you look at it that way, it took Yuvi 5 years to become the player that we fondly remember him as today.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He has got enough chances in LOI's. It's time to move forward. If he is that good he can always make a comeback just like other big legends in the past. :inti
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He's only played 12 ODIs. I say try out someone else like Ishan Kishan or Sanju Samson for T20Is but continue with him in ODIs. The management are (or were?) trying to make him a No. 4, maybe to try and replicate his IPL success, and then were angry that he didn't try and play himself in before going for the big shots and now he's trying to play in a way that he's probably not comfortable with. I think he's best suited down the order at 6 where one has no choice but to play the way he's known to play anyway.
 
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