[VIDEO] 'Shahid Afridi's opinion on Pak women's cricket.. "Yes they are good cooks"

[blinding light]

Just when I was warming up to finally becoming an Afridi fan...

In my honest opinion, this was a highly stupid, brainless remark. On one hand he has said he respects the role of women (his mother, his daughters, his wife's dedication to their upbringing - which I honestly do not doubt), but on the other, this .....

His background, culture, religious preferences are all very valid and it is easy to understand where he's coming from. But this is as pathetic, sexist one could get.

Extremely stupid man. Couldn't stress on it more than I do now.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

[/B]

I think we know the answer. I've read his previous posts to know what the conclusion is.

If it was anyone else i might think he was being subjective and actually was offended
but this is just cheap point scoring, unfortunately

 

[RickyG]

The point is you pounced on one comment by shahid afridi to come to the conclusion that both shahid afridi and tj are anti women and they are the reason women are not allowed to progress in pakistan
Forgetting that this argument was put to the test in afg and once the taliban went
, the women had even less rights and marriage rape was legalised for a period by karzai

That's if we agree with the argument that the statement was misogynist
We have people on the forum who like to offer interpretations on various ayah of the quran
but this statement is much more ambigiuous

is afridi
a) saying women should only stay in the kitchen
b) that u19 women should know how to cook because that might help prepare them for life
c) that he finds the whole topic montonous and has watched more women cook than play cricket
d) that his stomach is rumbling and he can only think of food


If this comment was said by someone without a beard, would you be so quick to pounce on the words and subject a whole demograph to the label of being sexist or is it easy because it 's afridi to label him and be completely islamophobic based on one vague statement

Can't be bothered to reply to someone that will make excuses for his statement.

 

[Sherlock]

You made excuses for Afridi not me, I can put that down for being ignorant, misogynist or a fan-boy. Only you really know what your intentions were.

Yep and next time I'm talking about the prevalence of gun-culture in the US because of a school shooting I'll bring up how it's an even bigger problem in Pakistan.

I don't see what impact sexist/misogynist cultures in India, Asia or the West has on Pakistan.

You know quite well that my argument wasn't based on your dislike for women's cricket it was based on you making excuses for Afridi's sexist remark. Your comment just comes across as sexist/misogynist because you choose to make excuses for Afridi. It's your comment not mine.

You see I just find your replies ignorant of what I actually said. When have I made excuses for Afridi?

Then again being ignorant you'll come up with a lame answer regarding beards and Islam etc.

You pointed a finger on the majority of men in Pakistan, yet forgot to state it wasn't just a Pakistan culture. As I pointed out, which you've ignored, shock-horror.

Then again I really find your posts pretty offensive to many on here, especially the one above.

Now read slowly what I wrote about Afridi before you state I'm an apologist for him or a fan-boy.

 

[RickyG]

You see now, that's truly a stupid reply.

Grow up if you can't debate properly. Stupid.

Btw, no-one said they should stop playing cricket.

I can't be bothered reporting that particular post so will leave it to the relevant authorities to do so.

The irony.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Can't be bothered to reply to someone that will make excuses for his statement.

Just put your hands up and walk away
You can make it out like shahid afrid has committed murder here if you want and that i am a terrorist sympathiser for making up excuses for him but abit of context would not go amiss

 

[Sherlock]

The irony.

Oh ditto

Irony eh

 

[Sherlock]

Just put your hands up and walk away
You can make it out like shahid afrid has committed murder here if you want and that i am a terrorist sympathiser for making up excuses for him but abit of context would not go amiss

He probably thinks like that because of your avatar

 

[Eagle_Eye]

This is why ecb has a media manager and all questions/subject matter vetted before going to the player.

Interviewer pulled a fast one on afridi knowing its tricky one for him as he grew up with consevative tribal rules especially when it comes to the role of women. Atleast afridi was honest in his reply.

Its not something I agree with him but then I do not come from the same background.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

RickyG

your cousin playing at nca is a fantasy just like your 75% estimate. Lol

 

[godzilla]

I apologize to the extremists and Taliban apologists if I've caused any offence with my opinions. I reckon if Afridi is entitled to his opinion, I'm entitled to mine.

i guess some of us have a bit more decorum than voicing personal insults with some puerile attempted camouflage of opinion, particularly when they're myopic, stupid and orientalist apologetic.

 

[miandadrules]

A really ignorant statement.

Just as bad as the statement was the dismissive tone he used.

He didn't say anything cricket related and basically said women belong in the kitchen. So, I can't see the point of bringing up the standard of women's cricket as a defence by posters.

If you don't like women's sport then don't watch it but they have every right to play them.

Also, Afridi was involved in a few scandals in the past where he didn't seem to heed his own advice about how women should be treated.

 

[Genghis]

Afridi's remark is a reflection of the society. But being a public figure and an international figure, he should have been smarter. Should learn to keep his views to himself.

 

[Mo_Ahmed84]

He can have whatever opinion hw wants. Let him voice them. Is he passing a law or pushing this through the government to ban cricket for women?

I agree, pakistani women, genrally, make good food. I'd rather have a good meal than watch women try to play cricket.

 

[Anfield]

Afridi is from a tribe which doesn't allow women any social interaction with men. They keep their women hidden behind the veil.

 

[I Believe in the Teesra]

He can have whatever opinion hw wants. Let him voice them. Is he passing a law or pushing this through the government to ban cricket for women?

I agree, pakistani women, genrally, make good food. I'd rather have a good meal than watch women try to play cricket.

Wow.

 

[Fallen King]

You see now, that's truly a stupid reply.

Grow up if you can't debate properly. Stupid.

Btw, no-one said they should stop playing cricket.

I can't be bothered reporting that particular post so will leave it to the relevant authorities to do so.

In Pakistan's democracy system, everyone are entitled to have their own opinions and even if some are celebrity. Just as ricky, a pper, is entitled to have his own opinion.

Resorting to name-calling is not going to help in debate. You don't have to agree with him, but calling him stupid is totally unnecessarily.

^ In my opinion, women are free to do what they want, the freedom to do what they want to do is encouraged in Islam, regardless of whether it's beneficial or detrimental to the society.

 

[W63L35]

In my opinion, women are free to do what they want, the freedom to do what they want to do is encouraged in Islam, regardless of whether it's beneficial or detrimental to the society.

Sorry for my ignorance..... .but as much as you create Islamic threads, can you show any authentic Hadith or reference in Quran where it is permitted for women to do things that are detrimental to society?

 

[W63L35]

@ People blasting Afridi for making these comments for different reasons. Let me ask you guys this.....

How many of you don't love your mother's cooking........ and NOT proud of her being a stay home housewife/mom..... and taking care of you. Was your father sexist and backward for making your mom stay home and raise you?

 

[Fallen King]

Sorry for my ignorance..... .but as much as you create Islamic threads, can you show any authentic Hadith or reference in Quran where it is permitted for women to do things that are detrimental to society?

The society, not God. Like the society is frowned upon women driving the cars in Saudi Arabia. Doing sleazy roles in film, dancing in form of mujra and go on. I hope you get the idea.

Everyone will be questioned for their actions in Judgement Day.

 

[Mo_Ahmed84]

Wow.

Which part is the 'wow' for? If its the food part then its true. When i was younger i would rather my mum make the food than my dad. Even now i prefer when my fiance cooks to my own cooking

Shall we discuss this over an oven pizza and fish fingers?

Or shall i tell the fiance to cook up some biryani, samosas, rassmalai, chicken fajitas and anything else you want

 

[W63L35]

The society, not God. Like the society is frowned upon women driving the cars in Saudi Arabia. Doing sleazy roles in film, dancing in form of mujra and go on. I hope you get the idea.

Everyone will be questioned for their actions in Judgement Day.

In my opinion, women are free to do what they want, the freedom to do what they want to do is encouraged in Islam, regardless of whether it's beneficial or detrimental to the society.

Encourages in Islam... Where in Islam??

I mean....where in Islam Woman is encouraged to do anything she wants....even if it is detrimental to the society?

 

[Statistics375]

Not the first time "Lala" has made a fool of himself on live television

 

[Poison]

Hahahahahaha holy lawd that response is the greatest thing ever

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The amount of people MISSING THE FREAKING POINT and taking tangential angles to make their own irrelevant silly points is really high in this thread.

Sigh.

Afridi can have whatever opinion he has (no one can argue with that) but his comment reeks of a sexist, degrading tone.

Now don't deny this by talking about mom's food, stay at home mom, personal opinion, religion, "get off your high horse" appeal, etc.

All that is irrelevant to this argument.

Its very obvious from the tone and the choice of words, where Afridi is coming from.

Women's cricket can be grotesque but that can't be used as a justification tool for Afridi's obviously degrading comment.

But go ahead, keep defending him by saying you are NOT defending him.

 

[Fallen King]

Encourages in Islam... Where in Islam??

I mean....where in Islam Woman is encouraged to do anything she wants....even if it is detrimental to the society?

Seriously, you are asking this?

The basic concept of Islam is freedom to practice, whether men or women. They are free to do what they want. If they follow God's Law, they will be in Heaven, if they don't, they will be in Hell. But Allah doesn't permit coercion like forcing girl to wear hijab, forcing girl to marry against her will, forcing men to convert to Islam, ...etc. Like a woman wanting to marry non-Muslim even though it is against in spirit of Islam, but leave that to Allah to judge. It's not in our place to force them not to marry their choices.

 

[Madplayer]

how old is this video?

 

[W63L35]

Seriously, you are asking this?

The basic concept of Islam is freedom to practice, whether men or women. They are free to do what they want. If they follow God's Law, they will be in Heaven, if they don't, they will be in Hell. But Allah doesn't permit coercion like forcing girl to wear hijab, forcing girl to marry against her will, forcing men to convert to Islam, ...etc. Like a woman wanting to marry non-Muslim even though it is against in spirit of Islam, but leave that to Allah to judge. It's not in our place to force them not to marry their choices.

I asked you a simple question...... and you have not replied.

Can you show me a Hadith or Quran reference where ....according to your statement...

women are free to do what they want, the freedom to do what they want to do is encouraged in Islam, regardless of whether it's beneficial or detrimental to the society.

One more time.... can you please show me an authentic reference?

...and yes, I am asking this. Please!

 

[Mo_Ahmed84]

The amount of people MISSING THE FREAKING POINT and taking tangential angles to make their own irrelevant silly points is really high in this thread.

Sigh.

Afridi can have whatever opinion he has (no one can argue with that) but his comment reeks of a sexist, degrading tone.

Now don't deny this by talking about mom's food, stay at home mom, personal opinion, religion, "get off your high horse" appeal, etc.

All that is irrelevant to this argument.

Its very obvious from the tone and the choice of words, where Afridi is coming from.

Women's cricket can be grotesque but that can't be used as a justification tool for Afridi's obviously degrading comment.

But go ahead, keep defending him by saying you are NOT defending him.

I heard him compliment the cooking of women. He didnt say they shouldnt be playing cricket.

 

[Big Mac]

@ People blasting Afridi for making these comments for different reasons. Let me ask you guys this.....

How many of you don't love your mother's cooking........ and NOT proud of her being a stay home housewife/mom..... and taking care of you. Was your father sexist and backward for making your mom stay home and raise you?

He didn't make her stay at home. She CHOSE to. Just like she chose to go to university. Just like she chose to start presenting radio and TV shows discussing Islam.

If she wanted to play cricket when she was younger and my dad told her to get back in the kitchen I'd like to think she'd give him a slap and say "Don't you have a job to go to instead of bossing me around?"

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I heard him compliment the cooking of women. He didnt say they shouldnt be playing cricket.

Cmon, now don't kid around.

Pleaaase.

Its not a compliment when you look at the context.

Either you are intentionally trolling (likely case) or you have decided to defend Afridi at all costs.

If its the latter, then "oh my freaking god".

 

[Fallen King]

I asked you a simple question...... and you have not replied.

Can you show me a Hadith or Quran reference where ....according to your statement...


One more time.... can you please show me an authentic reference?

...and yes, I am asking this. Please!

That is your task. Prove me wrong. Research the Authentic Hadith and Holy Qur'an to prove me wrong. I wish i could, but a wise man said, it's easier if he learns it on his own. _old

I am gonna provide the quotes later. Until then, feel free to learn. Holy Qur'an is for everyone, not just for Muslim people.

 

[smoothcriminal]

I'm not surprised though. Reflective of society's perception really. The irony is that mindset like this wants women to stay at home and cook but when their "woman" is faced with a medical problem they demand treatment by women doctors only.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I think half the people are missing the point here.

Women cricket is ugly and Afridi could have said that he doesn't like women playing cricket because it's ugly.

He could have said that he doesn't want women playing cricket and that would be his opinion.

Instead he came up with the stupidest reply about how he loves their cooking more.

Clearly he doesn't believe in women rights, but there is no need to hide from the masses and be vocal about what you believe in.
Where did his bravery go at this time?

He just played it safe not to invoke the wrath of the masses.


Women cricket not looking good or looking good is another matter altogether.

 

[Sherlock]

In Pakistan's democracy system, everyone are entitled to have their own opinions and even if some are celebrity. Just as ricky, a pper, is entitled to have his own opinion.

Resorting to name-calling is not going to help in debate. You don't have to agree with him, but calling him stupid is totally unnecessarily.

^ In my opinion, women are free to do what they want, the freedom to do what they want to do is encouraged in Islam, regardless of whether it's beneficial or detrimental to the society.

You do realise why I called him that, right?

Just look above if it's still there and not deleted by the mods.

 

[Sherlock]

I apologize to the extremists and Taliban apologists if I've caused any offence with my opinions. I reckon if Afridi is entitled to his opinion, I'm entitled to mine.

That's what he said. Now I don't know about you but I don't like being called a extremist or a Taliban apologists just for not agreeing with his views.

Also calling the Qur'an some old book justifies my reply.

He had to resort to insult to make his point, so I did the same. Calling someone stupid is a lot easier to take than to call him a terrorist etc.

 

[BudMarsh]

Well nice to see Pepsi doesn't share Afridi's feelings. Their newest ad in Pakistan features Sana Mir(as well as Afridi himself)

Some might call it hypocritical to demean women's cricket and then receive cash from a company that promotes women cricketers.

 

[BudMarsh]

 

[eradicator]

All team sports played by Women lack energy , excitement and are pure comedy, as if its a parody of Sports so Shahid Bhai is right when he says that instead of making a mockery of the sport Women are better off showing their skills in kitchen.

 

[DHONI183]

[VIDEO] Shahid Afridi's opinion on Pakistan Women's Cricket Team

1. You have a problem with the quality of women´s cricket and it fails to attract you. Fine, an acceptable opinion and can be debated, but remains a matter of personal choice at the end of the day.

2. Women´s cricket should be scrapped because of your above opinion. No, not fair at all and it´s their choice and an activity that they enjoy. None of your business.

3. Women should stay in the kitchen. Well, this is a Taliban mentality of the highest order and deserves no debating.

Whereas I am ready to give the benefit of the doubt to Shahid Afridi and say that he might not have meant what he ended up saying, the third from the above is the closest to what he has said, sadly.

Broad-minded people who say that they agree with Afridi need to watch and listen to the video carefully. He is not commenting on the quality of women´s cricket, rather, he seems to be suggesting that women come to this world cook and basically only do the household work. What he might have forgotten is that women can participate in other activities apart from women´s cricket, such as being a lawyer, doctor etc. In all honesty, he came across as an ignorant of the highest order in that short little video. No point in debating that.

Whereas this comment can be expected from a common citizen of the country, a person so celebrated in the game and in the country should hold some command over his tongue and what he says in public. I remember watching an interview of some girl from the Pakistan Women´s Cricket Team who was one huge fan of Afridi. I wonder what she must be thinking, if these holy words have reached her at all.

 

[Indiafan]

All team sports played by Women lack energy , excitement and are pure comedy, as if its a parody of Sports so Shahid Bhai is right when he says that instead of making a mockery of the sport Women are better off showing their skills in kitchen.

Nope, you or me or Afridi are no one to tell them what or what not to do. And if you ever tell this to a mentally strong woman to her face, you will realize why

BTW, I always wonder, I have seen many extremely misogynist politicians, sportsperson, leaders etc who make public comments. And always wondered why their better halves do not take them to task for it. Plus such people have lots of female fans too. Surprising

 

[Adil_94]

Afridi is stupid for saying this but he is saying what most men in Pakistan are thinking apart from the westernised elite and upper and middle classes who make a small proportion of Pakistans overall population. What Afridi has said mirrors what most Pakistani men say when watching Women's cricket. Now I agree the quality of women's cricket is poor and hard to watch but I suppose that's what it must have been like for Pakistan and India when they first started International Cricket. Over time they will improve Afridi shouldn't have said Women can only make good food or tell women cricketers to wear a hijab that is pathetic and uncalled for. But tbh in a country like Pakistan where Poverty Crime Corruption Drone Strikes Terrorism are much pressing issues than Women's Cricket. Once these problems are sorted then Gender Equality can be tackled

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[DHONI183]

[VIDEO] Shahid Afridi's opinion on Pakistan Women's Cricket Team

.... Plus such people have lots of female fans too. Surprising

Exactly what I was discussing with my sister-in-law maybe five minutes ago! What I gather from Twitter is that his female fans are bitterly disappointed and are feeling heart-broken at such a comment from their idol.

 

[DHONI183]

[VIDEO] Shahid Afridi's opinion on Pakistan Women's Cricket Team

Nope, you or me or Afridi are no one to tell them what or what not to do. And if you ever tell this to a mentally strong woman to her face, you will realize why

BTW, I always wonder, I have seen many extremely misogynist politicians, sportsperson, leaders etc who make public comments. And always wondered why their better halves do not take them to task for it. Plus such people have lots of female fans too. Surprising

I wonder what some people have to say about blind and disabled cricket. *My question is meant for those who are commenting at the quality of women´s sports since they are physically less strong.*

 

[greatest]

I have never ever taken Afridi's opinions whether on cricket or society seriously. He might be a star in our country but overall he is just like the average uneducated Pakistani with illogical thinking.

He has his opinions and should have given a smart answer, but one cannot associate 'smart' with Afridi. Never understood why our media gives so much importance to him.

We need opinions from people like:
Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy (Pakistan's first Oscar winner)
*Mir Zafar Ali ( Oscar winner movie visual effects curator. He has given life to characters such as Venom in Spider Man 3 as well as several other Hollywood flicks such as X-Men, The Mummy. He won an Oscar for Best Visual Effects in 2007 for the movie The Golden Compass).
*Namira Salim (‘First Pakistani Astronaut’ by the government of Pakistan in 2006. She is also a peace activist and was conferred with Tamgha-e-Imtiaz in 2011.)
*Sabia Abbat (originally from the Hazara division, is the winner of the National Cycling Championship).
*Rosheen Khan (Pakistan’s first female master scuba diver and the only Nitrox diving instructor in Pakistan. She aims to introduce positive social changes with her efforts).

Our media rather than hyping Afridi should focus on these people who deserve to be role models for our country.

 

[godzilla]

i have to admit this thread is an eye opener.

political correctness gone mad.

 

[alberto]

I'm not a fan of Afridi the cricketer but I must admit his views are correct and people are just overreacting over here which is a common sight!

 

[Indiafan]

i have to admit this thread is an eye opener.

political correctness gone mad.

I'm not a fan of Afridi the cricketer but I must admit his views are correct and people are just overreacting over here which is a common sight!

There were lots of people who said the same thing when blacks or gays were/are discriminated. And more than the obvious bigots, these people's, the ones who try to trivialize all forms of discrimination are the reason why a lot of discrimination still exists in society. Whenever any form is discrimination is challenged, these are the first ones to say that people are over-reacting

So women should stay in kitchen huh, that's the correct view?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I'm not a fan of Afridi the cricketer but I must admit his views are correct and people are just overreacting over here which is a common sight!

Another person supporting women kitchen life.

A lot of posters showing where they are coming from, in the 21st century.

 

[Indiafan]

I wonder what some people have to say about blind and disabled cricket. *My question is meant for those who are commenting at the quality of women´s sports since they are physically less strong.*

Well, that they don't belong in a cricket field and should take their begging bowls and stand in a street corner

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Well, that they don't belong in a cricket field and should take their begging bowls and stand in a street corner

But Blinds can play.

Because they are not WOMEN.

Women is like a social stigma, a taboo.

Women roaming outside, she must be the wrong type of women, or otherwise she'd stay at her home.

When hordes of people are thinking this mentality, you can safely assume that progress is far from away from the corner.

 

[Zaz]

No surprise that someone like afridi makes a sexist comment on tv, what did we expect from this einstein of the pakistan cricket team?

 

[godzilla]

There were lots of people who said the same thing when blacks or gays were/are discriminated. And more than the obvious bigots, these people's, the ones who try to trivialize all forms of discrimination are the reason why a lot of discrimination still exists in society. Whenever any form is discrimination is challenged, these are the first ones to say that people are over-reacting

So women should stay in kitchen huh, that's the correct view?

thats a massive and bizarre overreaction, and ugly extrapolation of certainly my views.

i absolutely dont believe women should stay in the kitchen. the bathroom floor is not going to vacuum itself.

 

[ussy]

Clearly you believe women should stay in the kitchen.

But, sadly that's not what I believe women are made for.

Where did I say that? I believe what my religion teaches, I don't ascribe myself to it then pick and choose what I want to believe. I believe women can work if certain Islamic conditions are met but if you want to think that's what I believe that fair enough.

 

[Zaz]

Im not surprised someone like afridi made these comments, we all know the guy always has been been irresponsible, thoughless and immature

But to see so many people most of whom will be living in thje western world either backing him up or condoning his sexist and demeaning comments is sad in this day and age

 

[Maher96]

[VIDEO] Shahid Afridi's opinion on Pakistan Women's Cricket Team

Nothing wrong with what he said. For me there is far more responsibility on women than have a career in sports.


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[alberto]

Where did I say that? I believe what my religion teaches, I don't ascribe myself to it then pick and choose what I want to believe. I believe women can work if certain Islamic conditions are met but if you want to think that's what I believe that fair enough.

People like Dr.Bassim wrongly assume! YOu can't pick and choose like you rightly said but people these days are selective!

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Nothing wrong with what he said. For me there is far more responsibility on women than have a career in sports.


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We the people of United Nations....

2..... to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights.....

4.....to promote social progress......

http://www.meforum.org/378/the-rights-of-muslim-women

"She should have equal access to education, equal opportunities for higher education, and be free to choose her subject of study. She should be free to choose her own job and be allowed to fully participate in public life — from politics and sports to the arts and sciences."

Education is the best way to broaden the mind.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Where did I say that? I believe what my religion teaches, I don't ascribe myself to it then pick and choose what I want to believe. I believe women can work if certain Islamic conditions are met but if you want to think that's what I believe that fair enough.

Surely Islam is not just for women ?

Why do you watch cricket on TV? There are a lot of girls who come in advertisements on the television. They are a lot of females who you see in the cricket ground cheering and dancing.

Why don't you abstain from watching television and Pakistan cricket team?

When you drive to work everyday, don't you watch hoardings of Gul Ahmed Lawn and and all that stuff plastered on boards?

Why don't you stop driving and observe the male "Pardah" ?

Clearly , in a male dominated society, when it comes to men, they can choose to pick what they want to believe, and ignore the rest, but when it comes to treating the female, she must follow the path of Allah.

But that doesn't necessarily make you right or her wrong. Selective pickings in 21st century are everywhere. You just need to look harder if you think , that you don't do it.

 

[ussy]

Surely Islam is not just for women ?

Why do you watch cricket on TV? There are a lot of girls who come in advertisements on the television. They are a lot of females who you see in the cricket ground cheering and dancing.

Why don't you abstain from watching television and Pakistan cricket team?

When you drive to work everyday, don't you watch hoardings of Gul Ahmed Lawn and and all that stuff plastered on boards?

Why don't you stop driving and observe the male "Pardah" ?

Clearly , in a male dominated society, when it comes to men, they can choose to pick what they want to believe, and ignore the rest, but when it comes to treating the female, she must follow the path of Allah.

But that doesn't necessarily make you right or her wrong. Selective pickings in 21st century are everywhere. You just need to look harder if you think , that you don't do it.

I know what type of guy you are, religious quotes or quotes from the Qur'an even will have no bearing on you so I'll abstain from replying next time. Peace brother.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I know what type of guy you are, religious quotes or quotes from the Qur'an even will have no bearing on you so I'll abstain from replying next time. Peace brother.

No Bhai.

Just selective quotes showing how women should be like, while ignoring what men do all the time, is what won't work on me.

Islam is both for men and women. Nowhere does it say in Islam, that men have the right to do what they want, and women must observe Pardah.

Anyways, you can chose what you believe is right. I 'll choose my path.

Peace.

 

[ussy]

No Bhai.

Just selective quotes showing how women should be like, while ignoring what men do all the time, is what won't work on me.

Islam is both for men and women. Nowhere does it say in Islam, that men have the right to do what they want, and women must observe Pardah.

Anyways, you can chose what you believe is right. I 'll choose my path.

Peace.

Your right, it won't work on you because your mind is already made up. There's no point arguing, just leave it brother.

 

[Poison]

How has this become a three page thread lol!

Afridi is no world leader and his opinion here is literally irrelevant to anybody anywhere.

 

[Khan88]

How has this become a three page thread lol!

Afridi is no world leader and his opinion here is literally irrelevant to anybody anywhere.

But you're wrong because he is a major public figure in Pakistan. Do you think these kinds of comments are okay in a patriarchal society in which women are already struggling for equality?

Also, I am disturbed by many of the posts in this thread. It does not matter whether the quality of female sports is lower, or the athletes are worse. That's NOT the point. The point is that women need to have the opportunity to do what ever they want..just like men do.

 

[syedtumair]

It is just sad coming from someone who should have been encouraging woman cricket in every way he can.

People claiming this as 'personal opinion' or 'nothing wrong what he said' should know that same girls will eventually represent this country on international level and what message will this moronic statement send out?..That we dont even approve of woman cricketers?

Afridi is no world leader and his opinion here is literally irrelevant to anybody anywhere.

And what makes you think that?...an international Pakistani cricketer,A veteran of 400 international matches and a former captain saying that women cricketers are more suited to kitchen than ground.


Quality or no quality....this is absolutely disgraceful statement,How would the quality of woman cricket approve when an A graded central contract player keeps making these statement in front of media (who watches every move he makes)

 

[hashmist]

I can see where he's coming from to be honest. I just watched the Womens Ashes series this last month or so and it was of poor to average quality.

Sorry if that offends anyone but it's how I feel.

What does the quality of their cricket have to do with their right to play?

 

[Big Mac]

What does the quality of their cricket have to do with their right to play?

Sunday league cricketers are all of terrible quality so they should all go home and supervise their women in the kitchen. All amateur sports to be abolished ASAP

 

[Sherlock]

What does the quality of their cricket have to do with their right to play?

I wasn't agreeing on them not playing. They can play what ever they want, it doesn't mean I like watching it.

I explained myself so many times it's a tad weird no-one reads the posts before posting.

 

[Sherlock]

Sunday league cricketers are all of terrible quality so they should all go home and supervise their women in the kitchen. All amateur sports to be abolished ASAP

Read above before posting rubbish!

 

[Big Mac]

Read above before posting rubbish!

"I can see where he's coming from"

The most charitable angle you can take of Afridi's comment is that the quality is poor so they should get back in the kitchen.

So kids playing tapeball cricket in the streets should go inside and do their homework because I don't want to watch them playing on TV right?

 

[Gujra]

Its funny how many people are defending Afridi but sad to see their views on women.

 

[Sherlock]

"I can see where he's coming from"

The most charitable angle you can take of Afridi's comment is that the quality is poor so they should get back in the kitchen.

So kids playing tapeball cricket in the streets should go inside and do their homework because I don't want to watch them playing on TV right?

So "I can see where he's coming from" means I hate women and their rights?

I never said go back to the kitchen. What is wrong with you? Pathetic!

Show me where I said that, because finding something in what anyone says is pretty easy to do, as you've proved.

Read the damn replies and then say what you said.

We all know Afridi's mouth runs quicker than his brain thinks and to say otherwise is ridiculous so I'm hardly defending him

My argument was regarding Women's Cricket NOT Women is general.

Next time open your eyes and read before posting.

 

[OmaIR1]

how many people here actually watch women's cricket? Or would follow it?

I know I would never.

 

[Crazy_K]

He has an opinion which he is voicing. Nothing wrong with that.

What is wrong is when people in villages in Pakistan dont allow girls to attend school, or when chinese parents kill off female fetuses, or the growing rape culture in India.

Lets deal with the big issues first, then we can move on to these little things.

Well when public figures come out and further cement a woman's position in the kitchen, do you really think people will advance in those other areas? Its all linked

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What's laughable is everyone here who is mocking women's cricket, if you were made to play against them, you would be severely embarrassed.

 

[Sherlock]

how many people here actually watch women's cricket? Or would follow it?

I know I would never.

Exactly but unfortunately some users on here thinks it's akin to being a misogynist.

 

[Big Mac]

Exactly but unfortunately some users on here thinks it's akin to being a misogynist.

No, I don't watch women's cricket either but I'd never tell them to get back in the kitchen when asked whether I'd like to see more young women get involved in sport.

Because that WOULD make me a misogynist.

 

[Sherlock]

No, I don't watch women's cricket either but I'd never tell them to get back in the kitchen when asked whether I'd like to see more young women get involved in sport.

Because that WOULD make me a misogynist.

And....Did I state that, did the users here whom said the same thing I did, state that?

Answer is no, yet you're still peddling the same fungus.

 

[Zaz]

And....Did I state that, did the users here whom said the same thing I did, state that?

Answer is no, yet you're still peddling the same fungus.

Ok Can you explain then what you meant by this then

I can see where he's coming from to be honest. I just watched the Womens Ashes series this last month or so and it was of poor to average quality.

Sorry if that offends anyone but it's how I feel.

 

[Sherlock]

Ok Can you explain then what you meant when you said

Instead of reading between the lines why don't you guys actually read what I wrote after that in following replies.

I stated then and I'll do it again because some are obviously a little slow. I was referring to Women's Cricket as being rubbish and not they didn't deserve to play and should stay in the kitchen.

 

[Zaz]

Instead of reading between the lines why don't you guys actually read what I wrote after that in following replies.

I stated then and I'll do it again because some are obviously a little slow. I was referring to Women's Cricket as being rubbish and not they didn't deserve to play and should stay in the kitchen.

Ok But a better use and choice of words than '' i understand where hes coming from tbh'' wouldve helped prevent any misunderstanding

As you well know afridi wasnt referring to the standard of women cricket, more like they shouldnt be playing it full stop whatever the standard, which you inadvertantly agreed with