[VIDEOS] Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges [Update on post #1294]

[Waq]

There's no point in talking about hypothesis.

Post #792 answers your question. If he is guilty, he should be penalized; I did say that. Nobody is saying otherwise on this thread.

I’ve asked a question about a random person such as Epstein and you’ve chosen not to answer and that’s fine. I’m sure it’s all about intention too.

Allah may forgive Tate if he has committed the crime of sexual human trafficking but that’s between Tate and his maker and Allah will know if he truly repents. That’s neither here or there as he still deserves to be punished by a state if his is guilty - and clearly I believe he is guilty and provided much reasoning and facts to support my claim.

Others believe he is a Top G and we are all jealous of his Bugatti. All is want to know is regardless of Islam and the matrix, why would he admit pimping his girlfriends if he didn’t do it?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think Tate became a phenomenon as he speaks very well, he can be charming and funny and he knows how manipulate social media algorithms. Part of Tate’s university hustler course was telling us students to defend his posts online from the matrix - this can be checked online easily and you don’t have to take my word for it. He also sticks up for men in a positive way and does have some good messages but he also sees women as assets and takes it too far.

I didn’t realise I was a social media trend and that I’ve popped out of nowhere? I’ve contributed to many threads in recent times. I’m happy to go offline and give you a synopsis off why life didn’t allow me to be as active on PP for the last decade it it helps?

Wow, you know so much about Andrew Tate, it must just be a coincidence you suddenly popped up in this thread and none of the others recently many of which concerned these sensitive topics such as race, religion and gender.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Wow, you know so much about Andrew Tate, it must just be a coincidence you suddenly popped up in this thread and none of the others recently many of which concerned these sensitive topics such as race, religion and gender.

Do you think [MENTION=1749]Waq[/MENTION] is part of the anti Tate matrix?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Others believe he is a Top G and we are all jealous of his Bugatti. All is want to know is regardless of Islam and the matrix, why would he admit pimping his girlfriends if he didn’t do it?

Why would he admit it?

I think because to his audience its not a crime, its a way of establishing dominance over females.

Establishing some form of dominance is especially when most of his audience is made up of unsuccessful males ( financially and with women).

These are badly wounded men who have found an outlet to lash out a world they don't really have much of a role in due to their own deficiencies.

It's far easier to blame women, matrix, 9-5 lifestyle, government, jews, liberals etc than to take a look inward.

Tate took a lot of different routes to get famous (big brother, dating shows etc) but finally struck gold by identifying a gullible audience and milking them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Do you think [MENTION=1749]Waq[/MENTION] is part of the anti Tate matrix?

You tell me. I didn't know who this guy was in 2022 and now he has become the most googled man on the planet. What do you think?

 

[sweep_shot]

You tell me. I didn't know who this guy was in 2022 and now he has become the most googled man on the planet. What do you think?

I also didn't know who Tate was before 2022.

He came into limelight after starting to praise Islam (he eventually converted). Before that, nobody cared. There are many like him.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You tell me. I didn't know who this guy was in 2022 and now he has become the most googled man on the planet. What do you think?

I don't think he is part of the matrix.

But you seem to have found something sinistern about Waqs return to PP.

Do you think he is friends with Greta and is trying to take down Tate?

 

[sweep_shot]

I think these need to happen moving forward:

1) Tate should be released within 30 days if they cannot charge him. They have been detaining him for over 70 days without any charge. That's absurd. Either charge him or release him.

2) If he is guilty, by all means, jail him. Once he gets released from prison, he can have a fresh beginning. Nobody should bring up his past if he has shown remorse, repented, and served his time.

3) Finally, he should continue to call out radical liberals. He is good at it.

 

[Waq]

Wow, you know so much about Andrew Tate, it must just be a coincidence you suddenly popped up in this thread and none of the others recently many of which concerned these sensitive topics such as race, religion and gender.

I didn’t realise I had suddenly popped up only in the Tate thread? Try clicking on my profile name and see what other threads I also participate in.

Again I ask why you seem so bothered about what threads I participate in? I’m seeing a trend in certain posters who have no issues getting personal rather then debate

 

[Waq]

Why would he admit it?

I think because to his audience its not a crime, its a way of establishing dominance over females.

Establishing some form of dominance is especially when most of his audience is made up of unsuccessful males ( financially and with women).

These are badly wounded men who have found an outlet to lash out a world they don't really have much of a role in due to their own deficiencies.

It's far easier to blame women, matrix, 9-5 lifestyle, government, jews, liberals etc than to take a look inward.

Tate took a lot of different routes to get famous (big brother, dating shows etc) but finally struck gold by identifying a gullible audience and milking them.

Yes agreed and your post is perfectly logical.

I ask everybody to look within and whether they’d like their sons to behave like Andrew Tate?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't think he is part of the matrix.

But you seem to have found something sinistern about Waqs return to PP.

Do you think he is friends with Greta and is trying to take down Tate?

Why would I think Waq is friends with Greta? I think this is your own imagination running overtime.

 

[Waq]

I don't think he is part of the matrix.

But you seem to have found something sinistern about Waqs return to PP.

Do you think he is friends with Greta and is trying to take down Tate?

This made me chuckle.

 

[Waq]

I think these need to happen moving forward:

1) Tate should be released within 30 days if they cannot charge him. They have been detaining him for over 70 days without any charge. That's absurd. Either charge him or release him.

2) If he is guilty, by all means, jail him. Once he gets released from prison, he can have a fresh beginning. Nobody should bring up his past if he has shown remorse, repented, and served his time.

3) Finally, he should continue to call out radical liberals. He is good at it.

1) Romania allows you to keep somebody on remand without charge for up to 180 days (must be renewed every 30 days) if approved by the courts and a judge. Clearly the investigation has evidence that the judge has seen to approve this and investigations can be complex and take time. Tate has already been caught out saying he will fly to Dubai if released on bail and his subsequent lung cancer story has been debunked.

2) Let’s see what happens with the investigation first

3) I don’t get all these labels. Just be a good man and stop causing divisions. Women can be bad to men on occasion and vice versa. He is merely causing divisions.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I didn’t realise I had suddenly popped up only in the Tate thread? Try clicking on my profile name and see what other threads I also participate in.

Again I ask why you seem so bothered about what threads I participate in? I’m seeing a trend in certain posters who have no issues getting personal rather then debate

I clicked your profile. Seems this is the only thread you have participated in recently for some reason

You are a Brit Pakistani right? Would you like to meet me there?

 

[Waq]

I clicked your profile. Seems this is the only thread you have participated in recently for some reason

You are a Brit Pakistani right? Would you like to meet me there?

So yes I’m the last seven days, I’ve mainly been on this thread.

For the last three months I’ve been on multiple threads.

And for the last decade, hardly any at all.

And your point is sir?…….. (drum roll)

What’s this meet me there stuff? Explain? As in person or metaphorically?

 

[Waq]

So yes I’m the last seven days, I’ve mainly been on this thread.

For the last three months I’ve been on multiple threads.

And for the last decade, hardly any at all.

And your point is sir?…….. (drum roll)

What’s this meet me there stuff? Explain? As in person or metaphorically?

Also I may be Brit Pakistani or I maybe a Russian Jew - let’s debate the topic and not the man please.

If I was a British Pakistani then they all don’t think the same and have the same views so fail
to see the relevance of your question?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So yes I’m the last seven days, I’ve mainly been on this thread.

For the last three months I’ve been on multiple threads.

And for the last decade, hardly any at all.

And your point is sir?…….. (drum roll)

What’s this meet me there stuff? Explain? As in person or metaphorically?

My point is we can spot a politician when we see one. Also their tactics which we may use in the future against certain communities if we feel it is appropriate. Nothing wrong with any of this by the way, it's never personal.

 

[Waq]

My point is we can spot a politician when we see one. Also their tactics which we may use in the future against certain communities if we feel it is appropriate. Nothing wrong with any of this by the way, it's never personal.

You lost me at politician? What are you implying? Let’s talk direct and not in riddles please

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I think these need to happen moving forward:

1) Tate should be released within 30 days if they cannot charge him. They have been detaining him for over 70 days without any charge. That's absurd. Either charge him or release him.

2) If he is guilty, by all means, jail him. Once he gets released from prison, he can have a fresh beginning. Nobody should bring up his past if he has shown remorse, repented, and served his time.

3) Finally, he should continue to call out radical liberals. He is good at it.

Beyond online forums I dont think radical liberals really effect our Muslim community too much ( yet).

However we are consumed by materialism, consumerism, living a lifestyle based on credit and immorality ( zina, adultery etc).

I think given Tate's background he would be better served addressing these issues.

If he tells our youngsters they don't 33 bugaatis to be happy, and women are to be cherished and honoured, not pimped or exploited. He will be doing a better service.

 

[Technics 1210]

Better to tell youngsters to aim high in life than to become lunatic liberals.

 

[sweep_shot]

Beyond online forums I dont think radical liberals really effect our Muslim community too much ( yet).

However we are consumed by materialism, consumerism, living a lifestyle based on credit and immorality ( zina, adultery etc).

I think given Tate's background he would be better served addressing these issues.

If he tells our youngsters they don't 33 bugaatis to be happy, and women are to be cherished and honoured, not pimped or exploited. He will be doing a better service.

Radical liberals are starting to affect all normal communities including Muslim communities. Many Muslim kids are becoming confused because of radical liberal ideologies. Radical liberals have hijacked everything (media, sports, education system etc.). There is identity politics everywhere.

Tate did all those alleged activities as a non-Muslim. He didn't do any of that after converting to Islam.

Anyway, I hope this drama will be over soon. Like I said, if he is guilty, he should be penalized. Nobody is saying otherwise.

 

[Technics 1210]

Should add, the only thing worse than liberals destroying society are bent coppers.

 

[Waq]

Beyond online forums I dont think radical liberals really effect our Muslim community too much ( yet).

However we are consumed by materialism, consumerism, living a lifestyle based on credit and immorality ( zina, adultery etc).

I think given Tate's background he would be better served addressing these issues.

If he tells our youngsters they don't 33 bugaatis to be happy, and women are to be cherished and honoured, not pimped or exploited. He will be doing a better service.

Bravo and you’ve hit the nail on the head more eloquently.

If you really reflect, Tate did a great job of dividing views between women and men.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You lost me at politician? What are you implying? Let’s talk direct and not in riddles please

If you can't understand nuances of English then maybe you are in the wrong country.

Anyway welcome back, let's meet up in one of the the British Pakistani thread and let's see how you hold your own there.

 

[Waq]

Radical liberals are starting to affect all normal communities including Muslim communities. Many Muslim kids are becoming confused because of radical liberal ideologies. Radical liberals have hijacked everything (media, sports, education system etc.). There is identity politics everywhere.

Tate did all those alleged activities as a non-Muslim. He didn't do any of that after converting to Islam.

Anyway, I hope this drama will be over soon. Like I said, if he is guilty, he should be penalized. Nobody is saying otherwise.

I accept that the world is becoming confused in 2023. Faith and parenting is key. For example my teenage sons are regularly told by their school that it’s ok to be transgender and binary neutral but my faith, culture and parenting has been passed down to them and they don’t hate people who are different but also know what is acceptable to Allah.

Debate is key to these issues along with real world experiences, not just social media.

 

[Technics 1210]

Tate should be knighted for highlighting the differences between a man and a woman, because ask a liberal what a woman is, and they will struggle.

The war against Tate, is a was instigated by Liberals for this very reason - Tate is a threat to Liberalism.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Radical liberals are starting to affect all normal communities including Muslim communities. Many Muslim kids are becoming confused because of radical liberal ideologies. Radical liberals have hijacked everything (media, sports, education system etc.). There is identity politics everywhere.

Tate did all those alleged activities as a non-Muslim. He didn't do any of that after converting to Islam.

Anyway, I hope this drama will be over soon. Like I said, if he is guilty, he should be penalized. Nobody is saying otherwise.

It doesn't matter when he did them.

Many reverts or born again muslims have a big impact on youngsters by telling them about the traps of their former lives and how to avoid falling into the same trap. Ali Dawah has done some good work like this when he speaks about how he reverted from his days of clubbing, dancing dj'ing etc.

The majority of the ills of the western muslims are currently not down to radical liberalism. Most people with kids who have an understanding of the faith are easily able to counter this narrative at home.

Tate can have a big role to play here to describe the sweetness of Iman.

 

[Waq]

If you can't understand nuances of English then maybe you are in the wrong country.

Anyway welcome back, let's meet up in one of the the British Pakistani thread and let's see how you hold your own there.

Why do you think that I have any interest to debate with you in another thread or prove myself to you or even want to know you?

I’m in an Andrew Tate talking about Andrew Tate.

I also don’t need lessons of what country I belong in. As I said earlier he direct and not speak in riddles.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Beyond online forums I dont think radical liberals really effect our Muslim community too much ( yet).

However we are consumed by materialism, consumerism, living a lifestyle based on credit and immorality ( zina, adultery etc).

I think given Tate's background he would be better served addressing these issues.

If he tells our youngsters they don't 33 bugaatis to be happy, and women are to be cherished and honoured, not pimped or exploited. He will be doing a better service.

Is that the message your country is projecting?

 

[Waq]

Tate should be knighted for highlighting the differences between a man and a woman, because ask a liberal what a woman is, and they will struggle.

The war against Tate, is a was instigated by Liberals for this very reason - Tate is a threat to Liberalism.

Who shall knight Tate?

Do we not have wives, mothers and sisters? Surely and sincerely they all know what being a woman is?

In your weird and wonderful mind, do you believe this so called Knighthood should include Tate using the lover boy method to human traffic and sexually exploit his girlfriends as per his own clear admissions?

God has not blessed me with a daughter but I’d be aghast if I had one and she was courted by a man like Andrew Tate. He is no role model.

Plenty of women have screwed men over and taken their masculinity away as Tate has highlighted but equally plenty have and are excellent role models as women. I don’t need Tate to tell me to use women as assets and pimp them.

 

[Technics 1210]

Who shall knight Tate?

Do we not have wives, mothers and sisters? Surely and sincerely they all know what being a woman is?

In your weird and wonderful mind, do you believe this so called Knighthood should include Tate using the lover boy method to human traffic and sexually exploit his girlfriends as per his own clear admissions?

God has not blessed me with a daughter but I’d be aghast if I had one and she was courted by a man like Andrew Tate. He is no role model.

Plenty of women have screwed men over and taken their masculinity away as Tate has highlighted but equally plenty have and are excellent role models as women. I don’t need Tate to tell me to use women as assets and pimp them.

You only appeared in this thread to defend Sam Smith, a role model and symbol of Western Liberalism, according to you.

Forget about Tate, you made it clear why you despise him, you met him, went to the same Mayfair clubs, and he has money, fame, and supercars, so stop pretending you care for socities and role models for the younger generation.

 

[Waq]

You only appeared in this thread to defend Sam Smith, a role model and symbol of Western Liberalism, according to you.

Forget about Tate, you made it clear why you despise him, you met him, went to the same Mayfair clubs, and he has money, fame, and supercars, so stop pretending you care for socities and role models for the younger generation.

Please do highlight where I defended Sam Smith? You aren’t quite right are you? Lol

I’ve made it clear that I despise him, yes and that I’ve met him, yes. So how does that equate in your fascinating mind that I don’t care for society?

You’re a funny guy and I await to see the Waq supports Sam Smith proof.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Is that the message your country is projecting?

Not sure what you mean here and how it applies to my post.

You seem to be speaking in riddles in this thread.

Don't worry the matrix won't get you, please clearly say what you mean with regards to Tate in this thread.

 

[Technics 1210]

Please do highlight where I defended Sam Smith? You aren’t quite right are you? Lol

I’ve made it clear that I despise him, yes and that I’ve met him, yes. So how does that equate in your fascinating mind that I don’t care for society?

You’re a funny guy and I await to see the Waq supports Sam Smith proof.

You keep us waiting on the so called evidence that incriminates Tate, yet have the gall to demand evidence of your support for Sam Smith?

You clearly support what Sam Smith stands for and symbolises, it is in this thread to see, but talk about Tate being a bigger threat to society?

You're a jealous and bitter guy (having read your posts) but what you have proven inbetween your insecure posts is that this saga on Tate isn't about Tate per se, its about the war against Liberalism, because a guy boasting on Youtube is unacceptable, but a guy promoting satanic worshipping, transgender nonsense is acceptable.

As it has been mentioned, there are far more worse people than Tate (based on your warped definition), and people like you do not seem to be bothered about the greater harms on society and our children, our daughters, our sisters, our mothers etc, but alas, here you are in a Tate thread because he stole your thunder.

 

[Waq]

You keep us waiting on the so called evidence that incriminates Tate, yet have the gall to demand evidence of your support for Sam Smith?

You clearly support what Sam Smith stands for and symbolises, it is in this thread to see, but talk about Tate being a bigger threat to society?

You're a jealous and bitter guy (having read your posts) but what you have proven inbetween your insecure posts is that this saga on Tate isn't about Tate per se, its about the war against Liberalism, because a guy boasting on Youtube is unacceptable, but a guy promoting satanic worshipping, transgender nonsense is acceptable.

As it has been mentioned, there are far more worse people than Tate (based on your warped definition), and people like you do not seem to be bothered about the greater harms on society and our children, our daughters, our sisters, our mothers etc, but alas, here you are in a Tate thread because he stole your thunder.

So in short, I never supported Sam Smith and you have zero evidence of this either. Lol

As for my views on other issues and people outside of Andrew Tate - you also don’t know is the truth.

You’re a funny guy

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not sure what you mean here and how it applies to my post.

You seem to be speaking in riddles in this thread.

Don't worry the matrix won't get you, please clearly say what you mean with regards to Tate in this thread.

Let me be clear then. Tate has intelligence, physical prowess and money. Then he bacame a Muslim and now he's in jail. I'm guessing your version of Muslim is the topi beard losers projected in Bollywood. Nothing wrong with that in it's own place but that's not me and never has been.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Let me be clear then. Tate has intelligence, physical prowess and money. Then he bacame a Muslim and now he's in jail. I'm guessing your version of Muslim is the topi beard losers projected in Bollywood. Nothing wrong with that in it's own place but that's not me and never has been.

Your incorrect Cpt.

If you enjoy fantasising about what my version of a muslim is, and then patting yourself on the back about it, then be my guest.

I'll leave you to the fantasies and the thoughts about Tate's physical prowess.

 

[Technics 1210]

So in short, I never supported Sam Smith and you have zero evidence of this either. Lol

As for my views on other issues and people outside of Andrew Tate - you also don’t know is the truth.

You’re a funny guy

So finally you admit you are unaware of the truth but ramble on about Tate's guilt and this mystic set of evidence that supposedly exists.

How many times are you going to say I am a funny guy? Well, keep going, because I rather be a funny guy than a jealous, insecure, and bitter guy.

 

[Waq]

Let me be clear then. Tate has intelligence, physical prowess and money. Then he bacame a Muslim and now he's in jail. I'm guessing your version of Muslim is the topi beard losers projected in Bollywood. Nothing wrong with that in it's own place but that's not me and never has been.

- Tate has intelligence? Yes I’d say he’s got a decent IQ but also his arrogance and ego blinds him to make misogynistic and self incriminating videos. Classic narcissism traits too.

- Tate has physical prowess? He kickboxed out of Storm Gym in Luton, which is a credible gym. I’m a boxer but my professional boxing coach (I’m not a pro) actually comes from a kick boxing background and many of the K1 and kickboxing guys I train with know his gym or even sparred him in the past. Tate is no elite level fighter but he would destroy most untrained men in a street fight. What’s that got to do with anything though. It’s only the tate worshippers and incels who are impressed by this. Get yourselves down to a fighting gym and dedicate yourselves to a martial art / boxing and after 5 years you’ll be unstoppable too.

- Tate is wealthier than the average man but not as rich as he makes out. All pcp deals, Mafia laundering, crypto gains he never admits and webcam proceeds from his girlfriends and social media and course income. But again, how is that at all inspirational?

It appears that a cohort of posters on here are impressed by Tate especially as he is Muslim. My morals don’t allow me to bend to his whim.

 

[Waq]

So finally you admit you are unaware of the truth but ramble on about Tate's guilt and this mystic set of evidence that supposedly exists.

How many times are you going to say I am a funny guy? Well, keep going, because I rather be a funny guy than a jealous, insecure, and bitter guy.

Hey funny guy I’m still waiting for your evidence that I support Sam Smith and devil worshipers?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Your incorrect Cpt.

If you enjoy fantasising about what my version of a muslim is, and then patting yourself on the back about it, then be my guest.

I'll leave you to the fantasies and the thoughts about Tate's physical prowess.

I don't care what your version of a Muslim is. All I know is that I am now going to bump the Apu Simpson thread. Why? I'm guessing there is some deep seated relation there and we need to figure out what it is.

 

[Technics 1210]

Hey funny guy I’m still waiting for your evidence that I support Sam Smith and devil worshipers?

This thread.

This thread was 7 pages long, a few months old, and you were nowhere to be seen, yet the moment Sam Smith is mentioned, you appear, and defend him.

The clarion call for all fascist liberals!

Have a fun day!

 

[Waq]

This thread.

This thread was 7 pages long, a few months old, and you were nowhere to be seen, yet the moment Sam Smith is mentioned, you appear, and defend him.

The clarion call for all fascist liberals!

Have a fun day!

Hey funny guy, you mentioned that I support Sam Smith and devil worshipping. I know you are challenged but back it up or you’re making yourself look like a________. I’ll let you fill in the blank.

 

[Technics 1210]

No better sight than seeing Liberals triggered when exposed.

I love it!

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

- Tate has intelligence? Yes I’d say he’s got a decent IQ but also his arrogance and ego blinds him to make misogynistic and self incriminating videos. Classic narcissism traits too.

- Tate has physical prowess? He kickboxed out of Storm Gym in Luton, which is a credible gym. I’m a boxer but my professional boxing coach (I’m not a pro) actually comes from a kick boxing background and many of the K1 and kickboxing guys I train with know his gym or even sparred him in the past. Tate is no elite level fighter but he would destroy most untrained men in a street fight. What’s that got to do with anything though. It’s only the tate worshippers and incels who are impressed by this. Get yourselves down to a fighting gym and dedicate yourselves to a martial art / boxing and after 5 years you’ll be unstoppable too.

- Tate is wealthier than the average man but not as rich as he makes out. All pcp deals, Mafia laundering, crypto gains he never admits and webcam proceeds from his girlfriends and social media and course income. But again, how is that at all inspirational?

It appears that a cohort of posters on here are impressed by Tate especially as he is Muslim. My morals don’t allow me to bend to his whim.

Your morals mean jack sh...

When you put up a video putting your life on trial maybe we will take you seriously. Until then, happy posting on this thread.

 

[Waq]

No better sight than seeing Liberals triggered when exposed.

I love it!

You carry on with your claims about being triggered, jealousy or liberal whatever.

Fact remains that you made a claim against me saying something and you can’t back it up. This thread and posts are all available for all to see.

Tut tut - resorting to lying about things I’ve said as per normal.

Funny guy

 

[Waq]

Your morals mean jack sh...

When you put up a video putting your life on trial maybe we will take you seriously. Until then, happy posting on this thread.

You make little sense or no sense again

 

[Technics 1210]

Tate converts to Islam, and he is arrested - coincidental

Sam Smith mentioned, and Liberals come out to defend him - coincidental

Ha, ha, and a big HA!

 

[Waq]

Tate converts to Islam, and he is arrested - coincidental

Sam Smith mentioned, and Liberals come out to defend him - coincidental

Ha, ha, and a big HA!

But who defended Sam Smith, funny guy?

You are special

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I don't care what your version of a Muslim is. All I know is that I am now going to bump the Apu Simpson thread. Why? I'm guessing there is some deep seated relation there and we need to figure out what it is.

If you don't care, may I ask why you brought it up?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If you don't care, may I ask why you brought it up?

Must have been a coincidence.

 

[Varun]

It appears that a cohort of posters on here are impressed by Tate especially as he is Muslim. My morals don’t allow me to bend to his whim.

This was apparent early enough, this thread didn't need to go a dozen pages to underline said cohort's identity crisis for the dozenth time.

Fair to say the British Muslim community is starved of a good role model or two.

 

[Champ_Pal]

This was apparent early enough, this thread didn't need to go a dozen pages to underline said cohort's identity crisis for the dozenth time.

Fair to say the British Muslim community is starved of a good role model or two.

Tate endorses Brit Muslims inner feelings which they may not be able to say outside loud in public. So they rally behind him in whatever he says.

 

[Waq]

This was apparent early enough, this thread didn't need to go a dozen pages to underline said cohort's identity crisis for the dozenth time.

Fair to say the British Muslim community is starved of a good role model or two.

I challenge that statement.

We have British Muslims who are MP’s, barristers, judges, doctors, CEO of organisations, senior police officers, entrepreneurs, footballers, cricketers, actors, boxers and artists etc.

I can name plenty who are all excellent British Muslim role models in all walks of British society.

You’ll find that many of todays youth and those more mature who don’t have meaningful families
of their own or not fulfilled their potential or those who are wooed by materialism seem to like Andrew Tate.

In reality, at best Tate is a rude misogynist and at worst he is a violent rapist and human sex trafficker. Tate is known for flash cars and flash watches and sleeping with your stereotypical broken souled ‘party girls’. They survive on pimping girls and keeping 75% of the takings and survive by selling their hustlers university courses to society's losers who lack direction and lack confidence.

Neither Andrew or his brother Tristan preach family values or humbleness or respect to women. They call people brokies for god sake if they lack wealth.

Most decent British Muslim men will not be impressed by Andrew Tate and we’d want such a character to stay clear of our daughters regardless of him being Muslim.

 

[Waq]

Tate endorses Brit Muslims inner feelings which they may not be able to say outside loud in public. So they rally behind him in whatever he says.

I am saddened and embarrassed if a British Muslim sees Tate as a role model but his popularity is global and from people of all faiths.

Can you qualify or expand your statement about inner feelings as many on this thread have disapproved or been disgusted by Tate’s content.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I am saddened and embarrassed if a British Muslim sees Tate as a role model but his popularity is global and from people of all faiths.

Can you qualify or expand your statement about inner feelings as many on this thread have disapproved or been disgusted by Tate’s content.

Just read YouTube comments section. It is flooded with them.

 

[Waq]

Just read YouTube comments section. It is flooded with them.

Are they all Muslim names? If yes are they British?

I’m posting against Tate here on pakpassion but I wouldn’t bother on Facebook or YouTube.

Anyhow, my point remains from this thread that many here don’t approve of Tate.

 

[Technics 1210]

Tate endorses Brit Muslims inner feelings which they may not be able to say outside loud in public. So they rally behind him in whatever he says.

You obviously didn't follow Tate before he was a Muslim, he has more non Muslim supporters compared with Muslim supporters.

Who knows one day a social celebrity will embrace Hinduism and rally the British Hindu crowd.

 

[sweep_shot]

Are they all Muslim names? If yes are they British?

I’m posting against Tate here on pakpassion but I wouldn’t bother on Facebook or YouTube.

Anyhow, my point remains from this thread that many here don’t approve of Tate.

There are some Muslims who support some of his recent views. Even I think his latest stuffs are mostly alright. However, I definitely condemn his past stuffs (back when he was a non-Muslim).

This is the point that many including you are overlooking. His "bad" stuffs happened when he was a non-Muslim. He has been reasonably clean since his conversion.

Now, if he is guilty, he should serve his time. If not, he should be let go and allowed to start a new life (without harassment).

Also, nobody is looking at him as a role model. Some of us are just questioning his timing of the arrest. Why the arrest after all these years and why particularly after his conversion?

 

[Waq]

https://www-gandul-ro.translate.goo...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Ok so this article (please fact check yourselves) confirmed that within 24 hours of arrest on 29th December 2022, the Tate brothers were allowed to make telephone calls but they were not aware of surveillance wire taps. They were immediately heard wanting to bribe victims and politicians and weeks after, Tate was heard saying he will fly to Dubai if given bail.

This is grounds for a judge to agree with DIICOT to refuse bail. I don’t see what is hard to understand? Tate is a risk to victims and an escape risk.

I’m sure that the investigation will conclude soon and a charging decision will be made.

FULL DISCLOSURE will then be made to the Tate’s legal team at a deadline agreed by the courts.

So far 35,000 pages of documents in Romanian language have been shared. I have no idea how much evidence is contained within that bundle but clearly not enough to charge as of yet.

Also remember double jeopardy laws vary in countries.

 

[Technics 1210]

Recent comments have proven beyond doubt that Tate and his views are not the problem (except for one user who is jealous of Tate), but Tate converting to Islam is the problem for Hindus and Liberals.

 

[Waq]

There are some Muslims who support some of his recent views. Even I think his latest stuffs are mostly alright. However, I definitely condemn his past stuffs (back when he was a non-Muslim).

This is the point that many including you are overlooking. His "bad" stuffs happened when he was a non-Muslim. He has been reasonably clean since his conversion.

Now, if he is guilty, he should serve his time. If not, he should be let go and allowed to start a new life (without harassment).

Also, nobody is looking at him as a role model. Some of us are just questioning his timing of the arrest. Why the arrest after all these years and why particularly after his conversion?

I have no issues agreeing with some of his videos, particularly his latest ones.

However Andrew Tate is not on trial for his TikTok content. He is facing charges for a complex matter of human sex trafficking and rape.

Post Islam conversion positive male content is not the concern here.

In terms of the timing of the arrest, as explained earlier, Tate has been investigated for such matters since 2016.

All your questions will be answered if the matters gets to trial.

 

[Waq]

Recent comments have proven beyond doubt that Tate and his views are not the problem (except for one user who is jealous of Tate), but Tate converting to Islam is the problem for Hindus and Liberals.

‘Proven beyond doubt’ - That’s very big words my dear funny guy, lol.

Are you actually capable of debating about specifics?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Andrew Tate has a lot of obsessed haters who cant sleep until he is hanged.

No evidence after 3 months, the man should be let free asap.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This was apparent early enough, this thread didn't need to go a dozen pages to underline said cohort's identity crisis for the dozenth time.

Fair to say the British Muslim community is starved of a good role model or two.

Lol. Please stay out of this thread unless you want to be reminded who your country voted as PM.

 

[LongHorn]

Fair to say the British Muslim community is starved of a good role model or two.

One would have thought Moin Khan was good enough

 

[RexRex]

This thread is an interesting read. It is shocking to see how a grifter like Andrew Tate has so many british pakistanis wrapped around his finger.

 

[saeedhk]

I watched a video earlier in which somebody showed a video of Tate to a Pakistani woman where he was ranting about women like how he usually does and the lady, after watching the video said,'Is he from Pakistan? He sounds exactly like Pakistani men.'

Tate appeals much more to Pakistanis in my opinion because he has the same beliefs as a very large of Pakistani men do. Simply, Pakistani men love Tate because he justify their misbehaviour, violence and mistreatment of women. There is no other explanation.

 

[SalimBhai]

You obviously didn't follow Tate before he was a Muslim, he has more non Muslim supporters compared with Muslim supporters.

Who knows one day a social celebrity will embrace Hinduism and rally the British Hindu crowd.

Hopefully is not such a low class person that some of the Muslims have embraced

 

[SalimBhai]

I watched a video earlier in which somebody showed a video of Tate to a Pakistani woman where he was ranting about women like how he usually does and the lady, after watching the video said,'Is he from Pakistan? He sounds exactly like Pakistani men.'

Tate appeals much more to Pakistanis in my opinion because he has the same beliefs as a very large of Pakistani men do. Simply, Pakistani men love Tate because he justify their misbehaviour, violence and mistreatment of women. There is no other explanation.

I would believe that. It’s the sad truth

 

[Varun]

Lol. Please stay out of this thread unless you want to be reminded who your country voted as PM.

I'm not responsible for the individual in question but I respect the office of the Prime Minister as should you yours: so go back to chanting God save the King while listening to diktats from Sunak and Patel.

Getting mentally bruised by valid criticism of Andrew Tate or Anjem Chaudhury is purely optional though, and this thread aims to correctly generalise you for doing so.

 

[JaDed]

This thread is an interesting read. It is shocking to see how a grifter like Andrew Tate has so many british pakistanis wrapped around his finger.

Tbf [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION] is also from that part and I’m sure he is as shocked us to see this.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This thread is an interesting read. It is shocking to see how a grifter like Andrew Tate has so many british pakistanis wrapped around his finger.

We need a British Hindu role model to asprire to. I'm thinking Suella or Priti are great exemplars.

 

[Waq]

Let’s breakdown the key issues around Andrew Tate on this thread:

1) The legal process

This has been discussed and some of you may claim that there is no evidence but it is an ongoing investigation and whichever way you look at it, his detention is legal and Romanian legal process is being followed. The crimes the Tate’s are being investigated for is rape and human sex trafficking.

2) Online content

This relates to videos such as Tate’s TikTok videos and his podcasts and your opinions on whether Tate is a good role model or bad one. This also relates to his hustlers university course video content that can easily be found on YouTube.

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I think it’s fair to say that we all await the outcome of the legal process. There has been leaks and official statements on both sides. I’m clear on my opinion of whether I think he should have been arrested and whether I feel he is guilty and others have given contrary opinions.

The purpose of this post is to however establish what peoples actual opinions are of Andrew Tate?

My opinion is known on this thread and I feel he is a pimp, disrespectful towards women and poor people and he is a con artist using his popularity to sell his hustlers university course.

For those who defend Tate, clearly it isn’t because you have a passion for the Romania criminal justice. Be honest, why are you defending him?

- What do you like or admire about Tate?

- Does Tate inspire you or motivate you?

- How do you consider Tate a role model?

- Would you defend Tate if he wasn’t a Muslim?

- Have you signed up to his hustlers university course or taken financial advice from his content?

- Does his lifestyle of fast cars and fast women appeal to you. The Top G lifestyle I am referring to.

- Do you admire his physical prowess as mentioned by posters? Are you in awe of him as a fighter?

Like I said, my opinions of Tate are clear and I’ve given my reasoning too in earlier posts.

I’d be grateful to understand why many of you posters are defending Tate?

 

[Waq]

Tate really was humble when he converted to Islam

https://twitter.com/make_uturn/status/1632733122704949250?s=46&t=ktEgtKONv7WxvshslawzTA

 

[Waq]

And another self incriminating video where he admits exploiting women for his webcam business and he keeps 75%.

Alongside this video, consider previous videos I’ve shared on this thread where he admits he used the ‘lover boy’ method and made girls fall in love with simply because he saw them as assets so he could pimp them.

Will any Tate fans clearly and without diverting, answer their thoughts on the videos and why he made them?

 

[Waq]

Tate is nothing but a cult leader and many are all brainwashed by his nonsense.

He sells a course for £50 a month where you have to defend him online on tiktok etc and he sells slots for his war room membership for £5k and you become a cult member. The whole thing is genius and Tate fans are paying him to defend him and making him rich.

https://twitter.com/ikeobi579338581/status/1632664512724713472?s=46&t=ktEgtKONv7WxvshslawzTA

 

[Waq]

And another self incriminating video where he admits exploiting women for his webcam business and he keeps 75%.

Alongside this video, consider previous videos I’ve shared on this thread where he admits he used the ‘lover boy’ method and made girls fall in love with simply because he saw them as assets so he could pimp them.

Will any Tate fans clearly and without diverting, answer their thoughts on the videos and why he made them?

I forgot to share a link:

https://twitter.com/ikeobi579338581/status/1629587476850388992?s=46&t=ktEgtKONv7WxvshslawzTA

 

[sweep_shot]

- What do you like or admire about Tate?

I like his spirit against leftist/radical liberals.

- Does Tate inspire you or motivate you?

No. He doesn't inspire or motivate me. But, I agree with some of the stuffs he said (particularly about leftists).

- How do you consider Tate a role model?

No. There are better role models.

- Would you defend Tate if he wasn’t a Muslim?

Yes if he was saying the right things. But, being Muslim definitely means extra sympathy.

- Have you signed up to his hustlers university course or taken financial advice from his content?

Nope. Didn't know it was a thing before 2023.

- Does his lifestyle of fast cars and fast women appeal to you. The Top G lifestyle I am referring to.

No. I don't agree with or care about this lifestyle.

- Do you admire his physical prowess as mentioned by posters? Are you in awe of him as a fighter?

He seems like a tough guy. I respect that.



@Waq

These are the answers to your questions.

 

[Waq]

- What do you like or admire about Tate?

I like his spirit against leftist/radical liberals.

- Does Tate inspire you or motivate you?

No. He doesn't inspire or motivate me. But, I agree with some of the stuffs he said (particularly about leftists).

- How do you consider Tate a role model?

No. There are better role models.

- Would you defend Tate if he wasn’t a Muslim?

Yes if he was saying the right things. But, being Muslim definitely means extra sympathy.

- Have you signed up to his hustlers university course or taken financial advice from his content?

Nope. Didn't know it was a thing before 2023.

- Does his lifestyle of fast cars and fast women appeal to you. The Top G lifestyle I am referring to.

No. I don't agree with or care about this lifestyle.

- Do you admire his physical prowess as mentioned by posters? Are you in awe of him as a fighter?

He seems like a tough guy. I respect that.



@Waq

These are the answers to your questions.

Thanks for sharing and gives me an insight on how you view him.

Presumably you’ve watched some of the videos from the links I’ve shared? Why do you think Tate records himself saying he pimps women and controls them for financial gain. If you’ve only just seen them after posting, do you still now think he is a cool guy?