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Countries express interest in Pak-China's JF-17 Thunder
BEIJING: Many countries around the world are keen on obtaining JF-17 Thunder fighter jet jointly developed by Pakistan and China, said a senior officer of the Pakistan Air Force on Sunday.
“We’ve been getting inquiries and expressions of interest for the JF-17 Thunder from many countries in the Middle East, Africa and from as far as South America,” Air Marshal Sohail Gul Khan, the chairman of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, told China Daily.
http://pakistanvirtualforce.blogspot.com/2013/05/countries-express-interest-in-pak.html
BEIJING: Many countries around the world are keen on obtaining JF-17 Thunder fighter jet jointly developed by Pakistan and China, said a senior officer of the Pakistan Air Force on Sunday.
“We’ve been getting inquiries and expressions of interest for the JF-17 Thunder from many countries in the Middle East, Africa and from as far as South America,” Air Marshal Sohail Gul Khan, the chairman of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, told China Daily.
http://pakistanvirtualforce.blogspot.com/2013/05/countries-express-interest-in-pak.html
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Pakistan wins JF-17 Thunder order at Paris Air Show: spokesman
JF-17 Thunder performing practice aerobatics during the 51st Paris Air Show at the Le Bourget Parc des Expositions France. -Photo: APP
JF-17 Thunder performing practice aerobatics during the 51st Paris Air Show at the Le Bourget Parc des Expositions France. -Photo: APP
http://www.dawn.com/news/1188371/pakistan-wins-first-jet-order-at-paris-air-show-spokesman
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Looking good!
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How does it compare with the other top of the range fighters, or is it the lada of the jet fighters.
nice. what was the music playing in the background? was getting hard to hold my legs in check.
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Who bought it and how many were sold?
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http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/confirmed-sino-pak-jf-17-fighter-jet-has-its-first-buyer/If true, might hurt the feelings of few people.
Can JF-17 Thunder take on the big guys? How good is it in aerial combat?
So, how good is this JF-17 Thunder?? Can it take on the big guys in the league? Like Rafale,Su,MKI,F-35 etc?
Can it take down these fighters in Aerial Combat and Dog fight/?
Thoughts ?
So, how good is this JF-17 Thunder?? Can it take on the big guys in the league? Like Rafale,Su,MKI,F-35 etc?
Can it take down these fighters in Aerial Combat and Dog fight/?
Thoughts ?
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What are you 12?
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Bro, I will try to explain you in simple words.
try to understand first that Jf-17 is accroding to the requirement of PAF, and PAF is a defensive force.
JF-17 Block 1 or 2 is meant to replace the the aging fleet of 3rd Gen fighters of PAF.
Right now, JF-17 Blcok 1 or 2 is very capable to defend our borders, we just need to produce more Units.
It has Good BVR and good range of missiles and is even capable to back up our Navy.
JF-17 is good in Dog fight.
the above mentions jets like Rafales, F-35 are meant for air superiority.
Jf-17 Block 1 or 2 is not meant to take fight with 4.5+ Gen Fighters.
Its not his role, becoz Jf-17 Block 1 or 2 is a Multi-role fighter.
But,
JF-17 Block 3 will be a different Beast,
It has confirmed for AESA radar and New Engine Mach upto 2.0+ with different range of missiles, with Chinese+Western avionics.
So,it will be a Costly Jet.
IMO, JF-17 Block 3 will be Equal to JAS Gripen.
The international aviation experts are impressed with JF-17.
becoz it has good potential to be 4.5 Gen Fighter in future.
So,lets just wait and see.
Bro, I will try to explain you in simple words.
try to understand first that Jf-17 is accroding to the requirement of PAF, and PAF is a defensive force.
JF-17 Block 1 or 2 is meant to replace the the aging fleet of 3rd Gen fighters of PAF.
Right now, JF-17 Blcok 1 or 2 is very capable to defend our borders, we just need to produce more Units.
It has Good BVR and good range of missiles and is even capable to back up our Navy.
JF-17 is good in Dog fight.
the above mentions jets like Rafales, F-35 are meant for air superiority.
Jf-17 Block 1 or 2 is not meant to take fight with 4.5+ Gen Fighters.
Its not his role, becoz Jf-17 Block 1 or 2 is a Multi-role fighter.
But,
JF-17 Block 3 will be a different Beast,
It has confirmed for AESA radar and New Engine Mach upto 2.0+ with different range of missiles, with Chinese+Western avionics.
So,it will be a Costly Jet.
IMO, JF-17 Block 3 will be Equal to JAS Gripen.
The international aviation experts are impressed with JF-17.
becoz it has good potential to be 4.5 Gen Fighter in future.
So,lets just wait and see.
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POTW, this is the most well written post I have seen in a long time.
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What an awesome contribution to the thread
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This made me Lol !
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He is one of those obnoxious kids. Bet he never had friends at school or maybe he is just a keyboard warrior.
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It's a multi-role aircraft and although it can engage in aerial combat it's primarily for ground attack and air defence. Received it' 1st order after flight during the Paris Air Show!
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Its for defence and at the same time will be a good money spinner for the army if it can sell these to some asian/african/middle east nations,.
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As far as i know JF17 was not built to counter the first level high tech super planes. It is meant to replace the aging fleet of pakistan with similar requirements.
Just like Indian Tejas is going to replace its Mig 21 who are work horse not the front line aircrafts.
Also one should keep in mind that West and particularly America are at least two generations ahead of rest of the world in fighter plane technology. You cannot replace with one aircraft an entire range of war tested and technologically advanced crafts who have been reigning their supremacy in the skies of the world all over
They have retired a 4th generation aircraft after decades of service while rest of the world is still working on 3rd generation.
America is building its last aircraft of 5th generation after that it will abandon aircrafts. They have realized that now the full scale war is not likely between two advanced countries and they can make a UAV do better things than a fighter aircraft.
A UAV can take sharper turns as there is no human tissue inside it which is affected by Gs, it can be made smaller, it can make daring moves as the worst case scenario is a busted plane not a human life, it can carry more fuel and weapons as a pilot takes a lot of space, no need of life support and ejection system etc etc.
So to answer your question, can a chinese plane match F-35, Rafele, Gripen etc, well its a big no.
Just like Indian Tejas is going to replace its Mig 21 who are work horse not the front line aircrafts.
Also one should keep in mind that West and particularly America are at least two generations ahead of rest of the world in fighter plane technology. You cannot replace with one aircraft an entire range of war tested and technologically advanced crafts who have been reigning their supremacy in the skies of the world all over
They have retired a 4th generation aircraft after decades of service while rest of the world is still working on 3rd generation.
America is building its last aircraft of 5th generation after that it will abandon aircrafts. They have realized that now the full scale war is not likely between two advanced countries and they can make a UAV do better things than a fighter aircraft.
A UAV can take sharper turns as there is no human tissue inside it which is affected by Gs, it can be made smaller, it can make daring moves as the worst case scenario is a busted plane not a human life, it can carry more fuel and weapons as a pilot takes a lot of space, no need of life support and ejection system etc etc.
So to answer your question, can a chinese plane match F-35, Rafele, Gripen etc, well its a big no.
It is a sign of worry for me, cause JF-17 is one of our front line fighters along with F-16,and F-16 is a pretty old jet.
While India has purchased latest Rafale's from France and latest Su from Russia, and are working on 5th generation PAK-FA with Russia, how in the world are our planes survive against those in a Aerial combat if a war breaks out ? We need to purchase some new latest ones ASAP ..
While India has purchased latest Rafale's from France and latest Su from Russia, and are working on 5th generation PAK-FA with Russia, how in the world are our planes survive against those in a Aerial combat if a war breaks out ? We need to purchase some new latest ones ASAP ..
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Full scale war with India i don't think that's ever happening.Two countries to go at war in this era might be only to boost Defense sales and PR of the respective GOVN and army of respective countries hopefully not both are that stupid.
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In Simple words.
JF-17 had Dog Fights with F-16 Block52. The result were Good. not only that, we can change the whole avionics & power plant of JF-17 without any difficulties. It even can backup our navy becoz the air refueling capabilities and anti-ship missiles.
the JF-17 thunder is evolving , from block 1 to 2, now its going to get AESA radar and powerful engine in block 3. It has the capabilities to become a good 4.5 Gen fighter. you will know that when we replace our F-16s fleet with JF-17s in future.
PAF people are not stupid, PAF dont want to spend money only on 4th Gen fighters. India can afford different platforms of same 4 or 4.5 Gen fighters becoz they have to cover 2 fronts,
but we cant afford to spend money on different platforms of same 4th Gen fighters, so we try to spend the money smartly. JF-17 is for our requirement, it will replace our 3rd Gen fighters and F-16s in future Blocks. Thats all we needed from it.
Ever heard about J-31 ?
Its the answer of your worries. PAF is interested to do JV with china on this 5th Gen Fighter.
but it will take 5 to 6 years, becoz they are working on different Power plant of J-31.
If J-31 project completes before PAK-FA. thn you dont need to worry about Rafales or Su-30s anymore.
and remember this in wargaming or in real war, multiple factors gt involved not only Air Combat.
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the F16 can hold its own agaisnt the best aircraft in the world. It is the premier jet of its type. It will do a job dont worry. What we need to be concerned about are sheer numbers. But the PAF has factored that into its risk assessments..we will be fighting in our airspace, with significant SAM,jamming radar cover, our pilots know the terrain, they are well trained and can easily take on the enemy. We need to only deter and hold off the IAF long enough and prevent them from gaining full airspace dominance. I believe our force structure can achieve this.
We do need to replace our F7's and mirages quickly and the f17 will help with this. Also with the chienese stealth fighter on the horizon we have a ready made counter to the PAKFA. By the way the PAKFA may become a white elephant as the IAF is not happy with it. and reports suggest it is not as good as originally explained. The bottom line is the IAF doesnt need the PAKFA for Pakistan. They need or want it for China.
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where the eff are you getting your information from? you sprout so much crap it's unbelievable
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Why don't you say why you think it's crap? Is Pakistan not bombing Waziristan? Yes, it is. Has Pakistan secured its first order for JF-17s? Yes, apparently.
So what is exactly is crap?
Cause we are bombing terrorist hideouts with credible amount of Intelligence based operations, the normal people from there have already withdrawn in the form of the IDP's.
We have spies all over Waziristan territory , so only Al-Quaida,ISIS,TTP etc. linked militants are getting bombed .
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Not sure what all the hostility and negative questions are all about.
It's pretty obvious what the biggest threat to the Pakistani state currently is:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703908704575433433670192748
http://www.dawn.com/news/1183346
And the JF-17 does an excellent job at eliminating these home grown Islamists. Moreover it was partially developed in Pakistan which is a great achievement.
As for 'aerial combat', and 'taking on the big guys' I know there are some on here who dream about such scenarios but there is probably more chance of India producing a decent fast bowler than there is the JF-17 being called into action for aerial combat. (barring war games)
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this is crap "The question is a bit academic because the Pakistanis are more interested in bombing their own population in places like Waziristan than they are in aerial combat with anyone."
we are more interested in Bombing India
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Not sure what all the hostility and negative questions are all about.
It's pretty obvious what the biggest threat to the Pakistani state currently is:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703908704575433433670192748
http://www.dawn.com/news/1183346
And the JF-17 does an excellent job at eliminating these home grown Islamists. Moreover it was partially developed in Pakistan which is a great achievement.
As for 'aerial combat', and 'taking on the big guys' I know there are some on here who dream about such scenarios but there is probably more chance of India producing a decent fast bowler than there is the JF-17 being called into action for aerial combat. (barring war games)
either you don't know how to read or phrase your sentences in a way that others can't understand. You stated "Pakistan is interested in bombing it's own people" how the hell does that equate to the biggest threat to Pakistan is its home grown militants? Please explain.
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The days of dog-fights are long gone. This is an era of BVR. India had BVR a few years before PAF but the Saudees lent Pakistan their F-15 to Patrol over Pakistani skies.
No doubt that Pakistan was vulnerable to Indian BVR fighters.
PSince then akistan has had AWACS (Saab 2000 Erieye & Chinese) for a few years now so Indian BVR superiority is dwindled.
PAF needs to defend its turf while India needs Rafale for strikes. On Pakistani Turf JF17- Block II & F-16 is more then adequate to do the Job.
WVR: F-16 is one of the best (still)
BVR : F-16 and JF-17 (Block II) backed by AWACS & H-4 SOW give Pakistan enough of a match in this area.
Indian Airforce needs to mainatin two startegic strike fighters for Pakistan & China so let them bleed their finances.
No doubt that Pakistan was vulnerable to Indian BVR fighters.
PSince then akistan has had AWACS (Saab 2000 Erieye & Chinese) for a few years now so Indian BVR superiority is dwindled.
PAF needs to defend its turf while India needs Rafale for strikes. On Pakistani Turf JF17- Block II & F-16 is more then adequate to do the Job.
WVR: F-16 is one of the best (still)
BVR : F-16 and JF-17 (Block II) backed by AWACS & H-4 SOW give Pakistan enough of a match in this area.
Indian Airforce needs to mainatin two startegic strike fighters for Pakistan & China so let them bleed their finances.
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I own a black stealth air plane in my computer game.
Far better than these lallu panju paper planes.
Far better than these lallu panju paper planes.
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^ sorry mate, we are not talking about "Tejas" here.
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Tejas is a heavier fighter and again suited for attacks which is the Doctrine of IAF. BVF eliminates the need for it to get into dog-fights.
Tejas because of its bigger size has a bigger bulls-eye painted on it and it has no Stealth.
Neither does JF-17 but it has a smaller dot.
At the end of the day its superior avionics, Radar and Missiles and lock which count.
In a real life scenario it will be IAF which will be flying deeper, more dangerously and further away from fueling stations.
Pakistan has invested heavily into Missile Technology and Pakistan Army has Tactical Nukes at Division Level.
Let the Indians try a "Surgical Strike" for real...
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[Pics & Videos] PAF Jf-17 Thunder Air Display At Zhuhai Airshow 2016
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JF-17B, model (Dual Seater) at Zhuhai Airshow.
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JF-17 Thunder in Zhuhai Airshow 2016
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do Mig-29 have AESA , IRST, DOS etc ?
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can it? hell ye it just pawned the whole IAF and sent shivers and shockwaves through India
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We still need to buy newer jets so we are not complacent. Ofcourse; our navy needs a lot of improvements too. This conflict should really open those peoples eyes who use to criticize the defense expenditure.
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It not only saw a dog fight, but won it comprehensively.
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But Indians said the JFT stands for "just for trash".. 
Well it trashed their MIG and Sukhoi
Well it trashed their MIG and Sukhoi
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i think we can increase our PAF fleet which could support the navy also. I expect china will create a navy presence in makran coast too, we have a small coast
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aaah no.
Spending majority of budget on defense is not something that could be defended here.
There will always be criticism on the defense expenditure of a country which is a developing nation.
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Not sure what all the hostility and negative questions are all about.
It's pretty obvious what the biggest threat to the Pakistani state currently is:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703908704575433433670192748
http://www.dawn.com/news/1183346
And the JF-17 does an excellent job at eliminating these home grown Islamists. Moreover it was partially developed in Pakistan which is a great achievement.
As for 'aerial combat', and 'taking on the big guys' I know there are some on here who dream about such scenarios but there is probably more chance of India producing a decent fast bowler than there is the JF-17 being called into action for aerial combat. (barring war games)
How did that turn out
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How did that turn out
Unfortunately quite badly for them. This is what happens when you get brainwashed into believing your own hype. Just think about this for one second:
the PAF evaded Indias EW, anti aircraft anti aircraft missile defence structure and flew right in in, hit their targets, then flew right out while taking down their interceptors and their heli..from a country that has a 5billion dollar budget, still flies the mirage which is nearly fifty years old, was about to go bankrupt, has been sanctioned and terrorised for nearly twenty years..against a nation with a defence budget of around 50billion, a trillion dollar economy, the west's full support, nearly every weapon system the west and its allies can throw at it..
Just think about that for one second..
The Israelis have helped the indians with their electronic warfare capability..we spat on it..the americans fly excercises with them all the time..the russians sell everything to them..all we had was our thunder (they claim wasa piece of junk) some old mirages and a few upgraded F16's that the americans didnt even want us to use..
Imagine what we would have done if they didnt know we were coming..
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I am amazed at what Indians have been doing their defence budget, all their equipment seems garbage. For such a big country and apparently China's rival for it to be begging the West for Raffales without making something indigenous despite their economy is terrible.
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This is what JF-17 did: 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The country is missing the Rafale fighter jet says <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LetsConclave19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LetsConclave19</a> If India had the procured the Rafale on time then the result of the recent skirmish with Pakistan could have been different. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ModiAtConclave19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ModiAtConclave19</a></p>— Rahul Kanwal (@rahulkanwal) <a href="https://twitter.com/rahulkanwal/status/1101863221533790210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The country is missing the Rafale fighter jet says <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LetsConclave19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LetsConclave19</a> If India had the procured the Rafale on time then the result of the recent skirmish with Pakistan could have been different. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ModiAtConclave19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ModiAtConclave19</a></p>— Rahul Kanwal (@rahulkanwal) <a href="https://twitter.com/rahulkanwal/status/1101863221533790210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Quite a few people were/are unaware of the fact that the JF-17 is also being used by the Chinese AF under a different name.
It is no F-16, but it is a very efficient workhorse that can get the job done.
It is no F-16, but it is a very efficient workhorse that can get the job done.
No It is not. The other name is FC-1 which has slightly different specks and a different electronic suite. It is export version and exported to Nigeria and Myanmar (unfortunately).
Neither Chinese AF nor Navy uses FC-1. They are equipped with J-11/J-15 (Chinese variants of Su27/30), SU30MKM and now Su35. Their medium range fighter is J-10 and then JH-7 for ground attack.
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But Indians said the JFT stands for "just for trash"..
Well it trashed their MIG and Sukhoi
To be fair it was an old jet. Lets see if they are good when Hal Tejas comes to bomb some of our trees.
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to be fair to the guy india did produce bumrah
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Yes, I know about FC-1. However, I was under the impression that FC-1 is in China's service as well. Thanks for the information.
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For Pakistan's needs JF-17 is fine, especially due to affordability. I think it is a good step from the Chinese, I am not quite sure how much of it is chinese ? The engine is Russian, the air frame is modelled after Russian Su-27. Maybe the avionics is Chinese ? However they will improve it, the 3rd generation of these aircraft's should be decent..... As of now claiming to take down a 60 year old MIG Bison is not what I would call an achievement. The Bison's are flying coffins, we lose more of these planes due to malfunction than combat....
Rumors swirling around that one of the downed jets was su 30.
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I think a good part of their defense budget goes to TV channels.
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[MENTION=7898]Gabbar Singh[/MENTION] getting back some of his own medicine, as he is an expert on bumping old postsHow did that turn out
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A Rumor is a Rumor....
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Its confirmed as a su 30 - india must be the stupidest army in the world to send migs alone into enemy territory, if you know anything you would know su30s will always accompany migs in these sitiations, why its been hidden away is actully due to russia.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Claiming the Su-30 MKI Kill:<br><br>1: Russia has been reluctant to sell Su-35 to Pakistan.<br><br>2: Russia won't want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 kill because it'll severely hamper future sales of its top aviation merchandise.<br><br>3: Pak needs Russia for JF-17 engines.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193251451367425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4: Pakistan wants F-16V upgrade for its fleet and potentially more new F-16s.<br><br>5: US. would want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 MKI kill to hurt Russian top product to further escalate CAATSA pressure.<br><br>6: PAF is in a catch 22. On one hand they wanna claim the kill but its not easy.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193255280721920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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You can belive what you want but if you belive MIG crossed the border alone then you must also belive the indian army is an amature army that will get owned by even the weakest of armies in the world.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Claiming the Su-30 MKI Kill:<br><br>1: Russia has been reluctant to sell Su-35 to Pakistan.<br><br>2: Russia won't want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 kill because it'll severely hamper future sales of its top aviation merchandise.<br><br>3: Pak needs Russia for JF-17 engines.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193251451367425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4: Pakistan wants F-16V upgrade for its fleet and potentially more new F-16s.<br><br>5: US. would want Pakistan to claim the Su-30 MKI kill to hurt Russian top product to further escalate CAATSA pressure.<br><br>6: PAF is in a catch 22. On one hand they wanna claim the kill but its not easy.</p>— Shahid Raza. (@schaheid) <a href="https://twitter.com/schaheid/status/1102193255280721920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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You can belive what you want but if you belive MIG crossed the border alone then you must also belive the indian army is an amature army that will get owned by even the weakest of armies in the world.
Blk1/2 are around 20-25Mil. Blk 3 with AESA Radar, Link17, Quad digital FBW, retractable refuel probe and uprated WS-13 engine will be in the 35 Mil range.
Link17/Aselpod/AESA will not be available in the export version.
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I have heard that there is some kind of ban/sanctions on Pakistan that the country can not buy the weapons. If so then why?
No there isn't any ban. Pakistan's biggest obstacle in procuring western weapons systems and some some of the top of the line Chinese systems is simply cost.
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Is there any news that we are acquiring some new fighter jets?
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I actually read that on quora that due to US sanctions on Pakistan, Pakistan moved towards China for war jets.
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That was back in the 90s. The sanctions were due to Pakistan's nuclear program. That's when Pakistan moved towards China for weapons and the JF-17 project took root.
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Ohk... Thnx Bro.
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I think we need to use the experience of the JF-17 to build a new twin engine jet that will give us deeper penetration and will be essential for our naval defense as well. I heard the Block 3 is going to be very advanced and it uses top of the line radar tech acquired through Turkish help. Pak has had alot more design input in Block 3 than in any other blocks. There is talk that Block 4 and 5 might be completely in-house.
A dual engine JF-17 (will have to be another model number JF-18 perhaps) can essentially sink the INS Vikrant, which I think is the biggest threat that India has.
A dual engine JF-17 (will have to be another model number JF-18 perhaps) can essentially sink the INS Vikrant, which I think is the biggest threat that India has.
I read somewhere that in the 90s Pakistan sent their f16s for upgrades and the us just held on to them because of the sanction situation. So Pakistan decided to make their own, so they wont be desperate in the future.
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