[VIDEOS] Indian pace attack the greatest of all time: Mohammed Shami

[AMSS]

Statistically, India well on track to have the best attack ever across a continuous 10 years period. Better than AUS, better than Windies.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The current attack that Indian fans claim to be the best ever has never won in NZ, Pak or West Indies. You are only 1-0 up in the current Test series.

This pace attack will never play in pakistan.

They have already won in WI.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not the best ever. Long way to go.

 

[Mesozoic]

I'm pretty sure Shami meant it's our greatest bowling attack, which it is.. by a country mile and a half.

And if we win in England and then later in South Africa this year, it will go down as the 3rd best bowling attack of all time behind WI of 80s and Aus of 00s..

 

[Mesozoic]

I will rate this attack as the greatest if they win Test series in South Africa, Pakistan and New Zealand.

This may come as a surprise to you but winning in or against Pakistan isn't really that big a thing in 2021.

 

[Babbar]

India has to win against England and SAF this year. Then only Kiwis are left. And considering that Kiwis have lost against so many countries in the last 2-3 years, including in India, I won’t worry so much. Beating Pak, Kenya, Zim etc is irrelevant to this discussion.

This is the best ever Indian pace attack and also the best attack today in the world. We will worry about whether it’s the best ever attack in the world after 3-5 years.

 

[AMSS]

Not the best ever. Long way to go.

Not the best ever. But in conversation among the best attacks over a continuous chunk of time. With potential to be the best ever if the performance stays up.

 

[sweep_shot]

Shami is right.

This is the best Indian pace attack until now.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You can say better all condition bowling unit. Otherwise a lot of teams have great unit today.

1) Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc
2) Boult, Southee, Wagner
3) Anderson, Broad, Archer, Woakes

 

[PakLFC]

This pace attack will never play in pakistan.

They have already won in WI.

Have to win in England, NZ and yes Pakistan too if I am to be convinced of them being even in the top bracket..

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Have to win in England, NZ and yes Pakistan too if I am to be convinced of them being even in the top bracket..

ENG, NZ yes. Pakistan is ranked no 7/8
No way it is a benchmark in current generation.

 

[PakLFC]

ENG, NZ yes. Pakistan is ranked no 7/8
No way it is a benchmark in current generation.

Benchmark or not Pak is still your arch rival. Winning in Pak is crucial for Indian attack to be considered as being world class never mind being amongst the elite.

 

[mystical man]

Benchmark or not Pak is still your arch rival. Winning in Pak is crucial for Indian attack to be considered as being world class never mind being amongst the elite.

Are you joking or is this is an attempt to troll a team that lost to windies in a test match.
We already won in 2004 comprehensively with an attack that was not lethal like 2021.The pakistan team of 2004 was much better than the one in 2021...

 

[mystical man]

I don't remember you defeating the Windies but i will take your word for it. You still have not defeated England in the current series where as NZ are no walkover in their own country. India's fault or not you have to defeat the arch rival in their own back yard to even be considered a great attack. Did you defeat the RSA there??

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...cc-world-test-championship-1594705-2019-09-03
Here you go...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Benchmark or not Pak is still your arch rival. Winning in Pak is crucial for Indian attack to be considered as being world class never mind being amongst the elite.

pretty sure current Pak is not a rival to India in Tests, India basically ragdolls top 3 teams.

 

[docteurmanish]

Rank order wise

1- pace attack of West Indies . Garner , Marshall , holding , roberts
2 - indian pace attack of bumrah Shami ishant and siraj
3 pak pace attack of waqar Wasim Imran ( given ball tempering issues , I am not a fair judge of their quality ) Aquib
4 Donald pollock Kallis McMillan ( very versatile pace attack and was v v good )
5 current New Zealand attack / aussie attack with mcgrath gillespie lee and kaspriwicz

Yes the indian pace attack is v v good in top 5 of all time as it has won matches in West Indies , india ( dead low bounce pitches ) , in England ( swing ) , australia ( seam ) and were excellent in South Africa .
Fitness wise , it’s perhaps one of the fittest attacks . The pace and pressure are relentless .

And for those who don’t agree, second string bowlers of this attack are b kumar , Unmesh yadav , saini , avesh . An attack of these 4 will also be very competitive in most parts of the world . Add thakur , chahar and numerous others in waiting and it will remain a Strong attack .

Ishant and bumrah in my opinion are the once in a generation bowlers .

 

[AMSS]

Rank order wise

1- pace attack of West Indies . Garner , Marshall , holding , roberts
2 - indian pace attack of bumrah Shami ishant and siraj
3 pak pace attack of waqar Wasim Imran ( given ball tempering issues , I am not a fair judge of their quality ) Aquib
4 Donald pollock Kallis McMillan ( very versatile pace attack and was v v good )
5 current New Zealand attack / aussie attack with mcgrath gillespie lee and kaspriwicz

Yes the indian pace attack is v v good in top 5 of all time as it has won matches in West Indies , india ( dead low bounce pitches ) , in England ( swing ) , australia ( seam ) and were excellent in South Africa .
Fitness wise , it’s perhaps one of the fittest attacks . The pace and pressure are relentless .

And for those who don’t agree, second string bowlers of this attack are b kumar , Unmesh yadav , saini , avesh . An attack of these 4 will also be very competitive in most parts of the world . Add thakur , chahar and numerous others in waiting and it will remain a Strong attack .

Ishant and bumrah in my opinion are the once in a generation bowlers .

LMAO. I don't think you have the slightest on how durable the Windies and AUS attacks were. These two attacks were all about sustained excellence.

Windies from late 70s through to the year 2000 averaged 27.xx - a little over 2 decades.
Aus from 1993 to 2006 averaged 27.xx - about 13 years.

The best run for pakistani attack was from 1986-1997 when they averaged 27.xx - 12 years
The last 10 years has seen Indian attack average 27.xx and they do look set to overhaul both Pakistan and AUS.

OTOH, if you take smaller blocks of time - 5 year for example - then this Indian attack goes to number 1 and the only attack to average less than 25.

 

[Mercurial]

This may come as a surprise to you but winning in or against Pakistan isn't really that big a thing in 2021.

But you have to tick all the boxes in order to be called the greatest.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But you have to tick all the boxes in order to be called the greatest.

Pakistan isnt a box that needs to be ticked at the moment.

 

[PakLFC]

pretty sure current Pak is not a rival to India in Tests, India basically ragdolls top 3 teams.

I don't think you know what an arch rival is.

 

[PakLFC]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...cc-world-test-championship-1594705-2019-09-03
Here you go...

Good. Now only England, NZ and Pak remain. Was it your current best attack ever that won the series?

 

[PakLFC]

Are you joking or is this is an attempt to troll a team that lost to windies in a test match.
We already won in 2004 comprehensively with an attack that was not lethal like 2021.The pakistan team of 2004 was much better than the one in 2021...

What trolling? Have India defeated Pak, NZ or even England yet away? No is the real answer i am afraid as much as it hurts your ego. Pak losing to West Indies has nothing to do with anything here. I am saying that to be considered among the best this Indian attack needs to defeat Pak in Pak. I am not saying this Pak side are the best ever. Are you pretending that this has happened? You are saying this attack is the best ever not that one from 2004, stick to the topic.

 

[docteurmanish]

LMAO. I don't think you have the slightest on how durable the Windies and AUS attacks were. These two attacks were all about sustained excellence.

Windies from late 70s through to the year 2000 averaged 27.xx - a little over 2 decades.
Aus from 1993 to 2006 averaged 27.xx - about 13 years.

The best run for pakistani attack was from 1986-1997 when they averaged 27.xx - 12 years
The last 10 years has seen Indian attack average 27.xx and they do look set to overhaul both Pakistan and AUS.

OTOH, if you take smaller blocks of time - 5 year for example - then this Indian attack goes to number 1 and the only attack to average less than 25.

With due respect sir , don’t confuse entire bowling attack from fast bowling attack

If u just talk complete bowling attack , current one with ashwin and jadeja is one of the best all round attack - as good or better than aussie attack .

The West Indies attack lacked a world class spinner .

But yes , pure fast bowling wise , West Indies were terrific but I rank the skills of the current attack almost as impressive and last 4 years , this attack has been a winner in all weather conditions

Pakistan attack was superb . I love waqar and Wasim . However Aquib and Imran were both suspect with respect to ball tempering . Throw that aside and they are better than the indian attack ( Wasim in once in 100 years bowler ) . But they didn’t have enough quality back up fast bowlers and fitness was not as good

Finally , one has to note that current day more cricket played than the West Indies era . To have a bowler like bumrah who is excellent in all 3 formats and consistent is exceptional .

I stand by my statement . For tests , indian current attack is second only to the West Indies . As an all round attack if u include ashwin / jadeja , this attack is slightly inferior than the Aussie attack with warne

If the batting were as strong as the Aussies or the West Indies , the bowling attack would loose nothing. Kohli pujara rahane are not even close to Sachin dravid and ganguly and laxman . ( sharma makes the cut though )

 

[mystical man]

What trolling? Have India defeated Pak, NZ or even England yet away? No is the real answer i am afraid as much as it hurts your ego. Pak losing to West Indies has nothing to do with anything here. I am saying that to be considered among the best this Indian attack needs to defeat Pak in Pak. I am not saying this Pak side are the best ever. Are you pretending that this has happened? You are saying this attack is the best ever not that one from 2004, stick to the topic.

I am fully confident that the current indian team will be able to defeat Pakistan in their own den.You are trolling as you are fully aware of the fact that there will never be a series between the two due to politics but my point is that we have defeated pakistan in the last 20 years but pakistan have not won a test match in india since 1999....

 

[Srtfan]

Pak won Bangalore test in 2005

 

[mystical man]

Pak won Bangalore test in 2005

My mistake and India inflicted innings defeat in 2004 and won the series as well...

 

[Bewal Express]

I am fully confident that the current indian team will be able to defeat Pakistan in their own den.You are trolling as you are fully aware of the fact that there will never be a series between the two due to politics �� but my point is that we have defeated pakistan in the last 20 years but pakistan have not won a test match in india since 1999....

You have short memories.

 

[asifp]

LMAO. I don't think you have the slightest on how durable the Windies and AUS attacks were. These two attacks were all about sustained excellence.

Windies from late 70s through to the year 2000 averaged 27.xx - a little over 2 decades.
Aus from 1993 to 2006 averaged 27.xx - about 13 years.

The best run for pakistani attack was from 1986-1997 when they averaged 27.xx - 12 years
The last 10 years has seen Indian attack average 27.xx and they do look set to overhaul both Pakistan and AUS.

OTOH, if you take smaller blocks of time - 5 year for example - then this Indian attack goes to number 1 and the only attack to average less than 25.

Silly to compare like that. A lot more tests end in a result now. The game has changed.

 

[PakLFC]

I am fully confident that the current indian team will be able to defeat Pakistan in their own den.You are trolling as you are fully aware of the fact that there will never be a series between the two due to politics �� but my point is that we have defeated pakistan in the last 20 years but pakistan have not won a test match in india since 1999....

You being confident of India winning in Pak is not a fact but opinion. Arch rival means the traditional enemy which Pak certainly is. As I have said before the 1990's and 2000's Aussie side was considered the best as they defeated everyone home and away. You are not going to be respected by the Cricket world or fans until you defeat everyone home and away. We are talking about the current attack you claim to be the best ever not the won that won in Pak 20 years back.

 

[Devadwal]

"India have one of the best seam attacks in world cricket " - David Gower

 

[Mercurial]

Pakistan isnt a box that needs to be ticked at the moment.

We are good at home.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We are good at home.

India is excellent in Asia. Ashwin and Jadeja run through sides on most occassions.

 

[Junaids]

Current ICC Test Rankings

10 Bumrah
16 Ishant
19 Shami
38 Siraj

That’s some GOAT line up.

Even NZ has:

3. Southee
5. Wagner
13. Boult
15. Jamieson

Australia has:

1. Cummins
4. Hazlewood
12. Starc

 

[Sir Alex]

Current ICC Test Rankings

10 Bumrah
16 Ishant
19 Shami
38 Siraj

That’s some GOAT line up.

Even NZ has:

3. Southee
5. Wagner
13. Boult
15. Jamieson

Australia has:

1. Cummins
4. Hazlewood
12. Starc

That's the beauty of this Indian attack. They operate as an absolute team and not as individual bowlers. Each bowler complement the other. Together they are the best in the world indubitably.

 

[Junaids]

That's the beauty of this Indian attack. They operate as an absolute team and not as individual bowlers. Each bowler complement the other. Together they are the best in the world indubitably.

And yet in the World Test Championship Final they took 12 wickets while New Zealand took 20 on the same surface with the same type of ball.

So if India has the best attack, does that just mean their batting is garbage? After reaching 250 once in six all-out Test innings against NZ in the last eighteen months!

 

[Kaptan]

And yet in the World Test Championship Final they took 12 wickets while New Zealand took 20 on the same surface with the same type of ball.

So if India has the best attack, does that just mean their batting is garbage? After reaching 250 once in six all-out Test innings against NZ in the last eighteen months!

Batting is garbage

 

[MP2011]

does that just mean their batting is garbage?

Yes, it is.

Perhaps the only time you're making any sense!

 

[Last Monetarist]

Can't really expect the fast bowlers to keep bailing out this team day in day out. They should be furious with some of the senior batsmen for their abysmal performance today.

 

[Robert]

That's the beauty of this Indian attack. They operate as an absolute team and not as individual bowlers. Each bowler complement the other. Together they are the best in the world indubitably.

Kiwis are, for me.

 

[OmarKhan99]

Kiwis are, for me.

Maybe if it's hooping around miles. In most conditions, I'd wager the Aussie bowling line-up is better. Can't get much better than Cummins/Starc/Hazlewood/Lyon/Green. Obviously, to perform to their potential, they need a captain and management that complements their aggressive nature, rather than one that tries to blunt it.

With an in-form Rabada, South Africa would be pretty lethal as well. Rabada/Ngidi/Nortje/Maharaj (eventually Gerald Coetzee)

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Scoring against current Indian team is like scoring against Pakistan OG attack ( - wasim)

 

[wrongun]

Maybe if it's hooping around miles. In most conditions, I'd wager the Aussie bowling line-up is better. Can't get much better than Cummins/Starc/Hazlewood/Lyon/Green. Obviously, to perform to their potential, they need a captain and management that complements their aggressive nature, rather than one that tries to blunt it.

With an in-form Rabada, South Africa would be pretty lethal as well. Rabada/Ngidi/Nortje/Maharaj (eventually Gerald Coetzee)

Nice isn't it. All of a sudden quick bowling attacks around the world are rejuvenating. Some serious packs forming. WI: Gabriel, Roach, Holder, Searle, Joseph is their best for decades.

Now that India has come to the party & NZ has found Jamieson too the era of the endless bat is over for a while & I'll for one enjoy it.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

This innings doesn't really mean anything, without a miracle in next 2 days, England have already won this match. Bowlers can't win when the batting is 78/10 first innings.

 

[PakLFC]

The England attack when all ae fit is easily much better then the Indian one.

 

[OMB]

Nice isn't it. All of a sudden quick bowling attacks around the world are rejuvenating. Some serious packs forming. WI: Gabriel, Roach, Holder, Searle, Joseph is their best for decades.

Now that India has come to the party & NZ has found Jamieson too the era of the endless bat is over for a while & I'll for one enjoy it.

This is exciting as for long bowling attacks were about SENA. Some really good rivalries happening.
On the batting front, there has been gradual reduction of quality bats. In each team you have only one or two genuine good batsman and the rest who were good are about to retire and the new ones are not living up to the hype.

 

[OMB]

The England attack when all ae fit is easily much better then the Indian one.

India yesterday innings was an aberration and even Zimbabwe or Sri Lanka bowling would have looked great.
But yeah bring in Stokes and England become a much stronger unit as he is a quality batsmen too.

 

[OmarKhan99]

Nice isn't it. All of a sudden quick bowling attacks around the world are rejuvenating. Some serious packs forming. WI: Gabriel, Roach, Holder, Searle, Joseph is their best for decades.

Now that India has come to the party & NZ has found Jamieson too the era of the endless bat is over for a while & I'll for one enjoy it.

SL too! Yes, they may be struggling heaps with the bat, but in bowling, they have some exciting names. The quick duo of Chameera and Kumara, the swinging Rajitha, the lefty Binura, and the leggy Hasaranga.

The bat-ball balance has made cricket much more enjoyable in recent times. This is definitely the feedback control loop in action. Batsmen, flat pitches, spinners, medium-fast with lots of variations dominated for some time just before the recent fast bowling renaissance. Only few teams had access to genuine quicks, and so most teams went looking for the missing link and encouraged aggressive fast bowling in the younger quicks. Now, almost every team has a couple of exciting quicks either already in the squad, or coming up the ranks.

Won't be surprised if the tables turn once again though, considering there are just a few standout batsmen going around. Eventually, young batsmen will be the focus of some much needed development.

 

[IMMY69]

I think Pakistan's bowling attack is better

 

[Kaddy]

I think Pakistan's bowling attack is better

Jazbaat per qaboo rakhein IMMY bhai.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I think Pakistan's bowling attack is better

Control Immy Control.

 

[Ab Fan]

When everyone is at its best, Shami is the worst bowler among the four.

Ishant has Lords 2014, Sydney 2008 etc, Bumrah has Melbourne 2020, Melbourne 2018 and Trent Bridge, Siraj has Gabba 2021 and Lords 2021 while Shami has nothing to show for in overseas conditions.

Looks like Shami is all talk but no great performance. Fair to say just a good support bowler.

 

[Rana]

If BCCI bothers to play PCB, India would smash Pakistan like no tomorrow.

Winning in Pakistan means anything to India anymore. They are lightyears ahead of us. We need to stop pretending that we are still India’s rivals - we aren’t, they have moved on from our level.

This is India’s greatest bowling attack ever. Even their reserve bowlers are top notch, which is why they won in Australia against their full-strength lineup, something that no other reserve bowling attack can do.

It feels like India are playing 4x Naseem Shah at Headingly

 

[Bewal Express]

So does this make Root better than Bradman

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

When everyone is at its best, Shami is the worst bowler among the four.

Ishant has Lords 2014, Sydney 2008 etc, Bumrah has Melbourne 2020, Melbourne 2018 and Trent Bridge, Siraj has Gabba 2021 and Lords 2021 while Shami has nothing to show for in overseas conditions.

Looks like Shami is all talk but no great performance. Fair to say just a good support bowler.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...rica-vs-india-3rd-test-1122278/full-scorecard

Joberg 2018 from where our overseas journey started.

Plus many 2nd innings special which may or may not have resulted in victory.

 

[Ab Fan]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...rica-vs-india-3rd-test-1122278/full-scorecard

Joberg 2018 from where our overseas journey started.

Plus many 2nd innings special which may or may not have resulted in victory.

Looks like our Shami bhai quota of wickets is over for the day. He has taken two wickets. Don't think he will take anymore.

 

[Ab Fan]

His maximum quota of wickets is over now. I don't think he will take anymore than three.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Indian bowlers are not put under as much pressure as Pakistan bowlers.Indian batsmen usually put up a good score.It is very rare for Pakistani batsmen to score 350+.India got bowled cheaply this time which put Indian bowlers under pressure and look out of sorts.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Sharma's been the weak link out of the quartet thus far on this tour.

 

[IMMY69]

Sharma looks finished...

Bumrah seems to have lost 5-6mph

Siraj is all aggression but very early days for him.

Shami also looks down in pace and doesn't have a great record.

Separately they're overhyped, as a unit they're one dimensional.
When the wicket was flat there was no reverse swing for any of them and no real aggression in terms of pace.

 

[IMMY69]

Control Immy Control.

I need my day in the sun

 

[wrongun]

SL too! Yes, they may be struggling heaps with the bat, but in bowling, they have some exciting names. The quick duo of Chameera and Kumara, the swinging Rajitha, the lefty Binura, and the leggy Hasaranga.

The bat-ball balance has made cricket much more enjoyable in recent times. This is definitely the feedback control loop in action. Batsmen, flat pitches, spinners, medium-fast with lots of variations dominated for some time just before the recent fast bowling renaissance. Only few teams had access to genuine quicks, and so most teams went looking for the missing link and encouraged aggressive fast bowling in the younger quicks. Now, almost every team has a couple of exciting quicks either already in the squad, or coming up the ranks.

Won't be surprised if the tables turn once again though, considering there are just a few standout batsmen going around. Eventually, young batsmen will be the focus of some much needed development.

I haven't followed SL cricket much for a year or two- turned off by all the sackings and corruption reports in their board & selectors etc, makes it hard to trust the team/games they play.

I'd seen Chameera but not the others. Hopefully they bring some standards back.

 

[Kroll]

Has Ishant bowled at 100mph yet like he said he wanted to do all those years back?

 

[PakLFC]

Shami obviously knows nothing about the Australian and West Indian attacks of the 1970's and 1980's. The Pak attack of the 90's was heaps better then the current Indian one too..

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Shami obviously knows nothing about the Australian and West Indian attacks of the 1970's and 1980's. The Pak attack of the 90's was heaps better then the current Indian one too..

I assume he is trying to get more recognition in India, it's not very hard to spread false info in India.

Btw, statistically the best pace bowling lineup in a decade might be South Africa. Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Morkel all played together for a good amount of time. Australia was over reliant on McGrath (or less reliant due to Warne).

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Today's world is all about snap judgments and attention span of a plastic spoon.

In the last 2-3 years, anyone who has gone on a run of form suddenly becomes the greatest of all time. We have seen it with selected players from all team.

Imagine mindset of a batsman walking out to bat when he has to face Wasim/Waqar/Shoaib or Holding/Croft/Garner/Marshall or Ambrose/Walsh/Bishop vs him walking out to bat to Bumrah/Shami/Ishant/Siraj.

Perspective please.

The Indian bowlers are very very good, capable of sustained pressure and against current fragile batting lineups with T20 techniques, a complete handful. Their work in tandem is a joy to watch and it works in almost all conditions.

But they are not the greatest of all time by a country mile. They aren't even above current NZ line up of Southee/Bolt/Jamieson/Wagner.

 

[Mamoon]

It feels like India are playing 4x Naseem Shah at Headingly

If they did, England would have scored 700 at a run rate of 5+.

 

[Babeikh]

Not only the greatest pace attack but the greatest team and country full stop.

 

[Robert]

Maybe if it's hooping around miles. In most conditions, I'd wager the Aussie bowling line-up is better. Can't get much better than Cummins/Starc/Hazlewood/Lyon/Green. Obviously, to perform to their potential, they need a captain and management that complements their aggressive nature, rather than one that tries to blunt it.

With an in-form Rabada, South Africa would be pretty lethal as well. Rabada/Ngidi/Nortje/Maharaj (eventually Gerald Coetzee)

Good points well made.

 

[Robert]

Today's world is all about snap judgments and attention span of a plastic spoon.

In the last 2-3 years, anyone who has gone on a run of form suddenly becomes the greatest of all time. We have seen it with selected players from all team.

Imagine mindset of a batsman walking out to bat when he has to face Wasim/Waqar/Shoaib or Holding/Croft/Garner/Marshall or Ambrose/Walsh/Bishop vs him walking out to bat to Bumrah/Shami/Ishant/Siraj.

Perspective please.

The Indian bowlers are very very good, capable of sustained pressure and against current fragile batting lineups with T20 techniques, a complete handful. Their work in tandem is a joy to watch and it works in almost all conditions.

But they are not the greatest of all time by a country mile. They aren't even above current NZ line up of Southee/Bolt/Jamieson/Wagner.

Yep. I would say the current Indians are on a level with Gough-Caddick-Fraser-Cork or Harmison-Hoggard-Flintoff-Jones. Good attacks creating sustained pressure but not ATG.

 

[Usman Chadda]

NZ bowling attack is more destructive.

 

[Pakhs]

NZ bowling attack is more destructive.

I think he means greatest Indian attack of all time because otherwise its stupid. With 4 of them I tend to agree if Siraj can keep his recent performances up its the best Indian fast bowling attack I have seen.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Yep. I would say the current Indians are on a level with Gough-Caddick-Fraser-Cork or Harmison-Hoggard-Flintoff-Jones. Good attacks creating sustained pressure but not ATG.

I would say they are great, better than good but not ATG.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I think he means greatest Indian attack of all time because otherwise its stupid. With 4 of them I tend to agree if Siraj can keep his recent performances up its the best Indian fast bowling attack I have seen.

He is not wrong then, this is easily the best pace attack India has fielded in their history.

 

[PakLFC]

I assume he is trying to get more recognition in India, it's not very hard to spread false info in India.

Btw, statistically the best pace bowling lineup in a decade might be South Africa. Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Morkel all played together for a good amount of time. Australia was over reliant on McGrath (or less reliant due to Warne).

The 1970's Aussie attack with Lillee and Thompson was brilliant.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

When everyone is at its best, Shami is the worst bowler among the four.

Ishant has Lords 2014, Sydney 2008 etc, Bumrah has Melbourne 2020, Melbourne 2018 and Trent Bridge, Siraj has Gabba 2021 and Lords 2021 while Shami has nothing to show for in overseas conditions.

Looks like Shami is all talk but no great performance. Fair to say just a good support bowler.

This is so wrong.
He is the backbone of our pace attack, remember WTC final. The one guy who picks up wickets when others can't. Even in this innings he was our best bowler, just bcoz he didn't pick fifers doesn't mean he has nothing to show.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Yep. I would say the current Indians are on a level with Gough-Caddick-Fraser-Cork or Harmison-Hoggard-Flintoff-Jones. Good attacks creating sustained pressure but not ATG.

None of them had the ability which Bumrah has, throw all the stats away. Eyes alone can tell the difference.
This is a joke of a post.
3 - 4 30 ish averaging bowlers (even though they bowled mostly in England) being compared to an attack which broke West Indian quartet's record, lol.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

NZ bowling attack is more destructive.

*on seaming tracks.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

They aren't even above current NZ line up of Southee/Bolt/Jamieson/Wagner.

Nz bowling attack got obliterated in Aus, will get obliterated in India and other Asian countries.

So I think it's you who needs to actually think twice and factor in all conditions instead of asking us to broaden our perspectives.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

ROFL! hahahahahahahahahahah !!!
No comment! he is funny!! hahahaha

maybe he meant the Greatest Indian pace attack for all times and he is right, India mostly relied on spinners to do the bulk of wicket taking. with (often)1 or (sometimes) 2 strike pacers. This Indian attack has come along from that.
As for the unquestionable Greatest pace attack in the history of Cricket that belongs to The West indies First with Roberts,Holding,Garner,Croft and Marshal. Then the second set of Marshal, Walsh, Ambrose, Patterson and Bishop. They were unbeatable for 16 years, not only the got wickets but also send batsmen to Hospital with a regularity unheard of.

 

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maybe he meant the Greatest Indian pace attack for all times and he is right, India mostly relied on spinners to do the bulk of wicket taking. with (often)1 or (sometimes) 2 strike pacers. This Indian attack has come along from that.
As for the unquestionable Greatest pace attack in the history of Cricket that belongs to The West indies First with Roberts,Holding,Garner,Croft and Marshal. Then the second set of Marshal, Walsh, Ambrose, Patterson and Bishop. They were unbeatable for 16 years, not only the got wickets but also send batsmen to Hospital with a regularity unheard of.

Not sure about it even being the best Indian attack ever. I recall the days when Irfan, Zaheer, Rudra Pratap and Harbhajan were at the top of their game. They defeated a good Pak side with Inzi, Younis and Yousaf on their own patch. As poor as Pak are now I don't think India can do this at the moment.