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Is James Anderson an ATG?


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The reason he will never be an ATG is this:

Home:
84 tests, 368 wickets at an average of 23.76 and a strike rate of 49.7

Away:
60 tests, 181 wickets, average 34.16 and strike rate 69.1

If your quick is striking after 70 balls, you might as well sack him. What's carrying him is his home record.
 
150 Tests.

Take a bow.

What an accomplishment, at a time when some are retiring from Test cricket after a few Tests and at their supposed peak.
 
The reason he will never be an ATG is this:

Home:
84 tests, 368 wickets at an average of 23.76 and a strike rate of 49.7

Away:
60 tests, 181 wickets, average 34.16 and strike rate 69.1

If your quick is striking after 70 balls, you might as well sack him. What's carrying him is his home record.

The last 5 years his away record has been terrible due to age. Especially in subcontinent and flat pitches of Australia

However, believe it or not, his record in UAE is better than Steyns. Anderson has a lower avg and more wickets per match.

Furthermore, he won 2 man of the match awards in india and has a 5 wicket haul in Sri Lanka
His record in Windies is good, also got a 5 wicket haul in there this year.

He is not good away, but not nearly as bad as asian and aussie fans make him out to be. He bowls tight and is a good container in all conditions
 
The reason he will never be an ATG is this:

Home:
84 tests, 368 wickets at an average of 23.76 and a strike rate of 49.7

Away:
60 tests, 181 wickets, average 34.16 and strike rate 69.1

If your quick is striking after 70 balls, you might as well sack him. What's carrying him is his home record.

There’s no universally agreed way of classifying which cricketer is an all time great or legend of the game, we will have our own icons and memories of cricketing greats that will influence us as well as their stats.

Personally I go with this idea that the true undisputed all time greats are those players who would get selected in an all time XI or be strong contenders for selection.

On that basis I would argue that any player who can not make it into my all time XI , 2nd XI or 3rd XI is most likely not an ATG for me at least.

So for fast bowlers even if you went out with a four man pace attack for all three ATG XIs , that gives you the top 12 fast bowlers for me (no specific order) out of the bowlers Ive seen would be the following, and unfortunately Jimmy doesn’t belong here:

Denis Lillee
Glenn McGrath
Malcolm Marshall
Michael Holding
Andy Roberts
Curtly Ambrose
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Imran Khan
Alan Donald
Dale Steyn
Richard Hadlee
 
^ and if I was selecting a 4th ATG XI without the above fast bowlers, then the pace trio would be Walsh, Pollock, Kapil Dev - in the presence of these three Jimmy Anderson won’t be needed, so would select a spinner like Saqlain Mushtaq.

Right I’m sure you will be pleased to hear so that means Jimmy Anderson could make it into the 5th ATG XI as a fast bowler.
 
He is a longevity legend and an undisputed England great, but he probably just misses out on overall ATG of world cricket status. Still a very fine player who has earned his stripes.
 
One thing i appreciate about him is he took out the price scalps of each team a lot of times

Clarke 9 out of 26 matches
Warner 9 out 17 matches
Tendulkar 9 out of 14 matchces
Pujara 7 out of 16
Kallis 7 out of 16
Sangakkara 7 out of 8
Smith 6 out of 22
Williamson 6 out of 8
Kohli 5 out of 17
 
For me Bob Willis was the best English fast bowler,Even though I was not born during that time.
 
Didn't do well against the best team of his era. Neither Botham did.

Willis actually had a good record against WestIndies till he played against them in 1984 when he was past his prime and it was his last series.
After having a knee surgeries still he was effective.
 
5/40 in the 2nd Test vs SA - amazing performance from a true giant of the game in my view.
 
A great comeback display.

He is ageing like a fine wine.
 
Saw an interesting stat from talkSport: since turning 30, Anderson has 314 wickets at 23.9.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most 5 Wickets haul for a fast bowler in Tests:<br><br>36 - Richard Hadlee<br>29 - Glenn McGrath<br>28 - James Anderson<br>27 - Ian Botham<br>26 - Dale Steyn<br>25 - Wasim Akram<br>24 - Sydney Barnes<br>23 - Imran Khan<br>23 - Kapil Dev<br>23 - Dennis Lillee<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1213768124320899072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Saw an interesting stat from talkSport: since turning 30, Anderson has 314 wickets at 23.9.

Most Test wickets after turning 30:

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[tr][td]CA Walsh (WI)[/td][td]1992-2001[/td][td]81[/td][td]341[/td][td]7/37[/td][td]13/55[/td][td]24.17[/td][td]2.48[/td][td]58.3[/td][td]17[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]JM Anderson (ENG)[/td][td]2012-2020[/td][td]80[/td][td]314[/td][td]7/42[/td][td]10/45[/td][td]23.90[/td][td]2.62[/td][td]54.5[/td][td]16[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]GD McGrath (AUS)[/td][td]2000-2007[/td][td]65[/td][td]287[/td][td]8/24[/td][td]10/27[/td][td]20.89[/td][td]2.38[/td][td]52.5[/td][td]12[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ)[/td][td]1982-1990[/td][td]51[/td][td]276[/td][td]9/52[/td][td]15/123[/td][td]19.46[/td][td]2.48[/td][td]46.9[/td][td]25[/td][td]6[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AA Donald (SA)[/td][td]1996-2002[/td][td]47[/td][td]216[/td][td]6/53[/td][td]11/127[/td][td]20.87[/td][td]2.77[/td][td]45.0[/td][td]14[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CEL Ambrose (WI)[/td][td]1993-2000[/td][td]56[/td][td]215[/td][td]6/24[/td][td]11/84[/td][td]20.60[/td][td]2.26[/td][td]54.6[/td][td]13[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DK Lillee (AUS)[/td][td]1979-1984[/td][td]38[/td][td]184[/td][td]7/83[/td][td]11/138[/td][td]24.32[/td][td]2.77[/td][td]52.6[/td][td]11[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AV Bedser (ENG)[/td][td]1948-1955[/td][td]38[/td][td]178[/td][td]7/44[/td][td]14/99[/td][td]22.48[/td][td]2.11[/td][td]63.8[/td][td]13[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Imran Khan (PAK)[/td][td]1982-1992[/td][td]46[/td][td]178[/td][td]8/60[/td][td]11/79[/td][td]20.11[/td][td]2.52[/td][td]47.8[/td][td]11[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CS Martin (NZ)[/td][td]2005-2013[/td][td]53[/td][td]170[/td][td]6/26[/td][td]8/31[/td][td]34.15[/td][td]3.28[/td][td]62.3[/td][td]5[/td][td]0[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]SF Barnes (ENG)[/td][td]1907-1914[/td][td]23[/td][td]163[/td][td]9/103[/td][td]17/159[/td][td]16.46[/td][td]2.35[/td][td]42.0[/td][td]20[/td][td]6[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AR Caddick (ENG)[/td][td]1999-2003[/td][td]41[/td][td]160[/td][td]7/46[/td][td]10/215[/td][td]28.78[/td][td]3.08[/td][td]55.9[/td][td]8[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]RGD Willis (ENG)[/td][td]1979-1984[/td][td]43[/td][td]154[/td][td]8/43[/td][td]9/92[/td][td]26.46[/td][td]2.92[/td][td]54.2[/td][td]5[/td][td]0[/td][/tr][/table]
 
I watched the game yesterday particularly the first half, felt Broad was the pick of the bowler, not sure how Anderson ended up with a 5-fer here. Anyways, good for him ensuring England go to second inning with a lead.
 
I see 18 people vote against him not being an ATG that’s 34% of the vote. Seriously if this guy isn’t an ATG I don’t know who is. This man is the bowler of 2 decades almost not even one since he started in mid 2000s it will be a sad day for me when he retires have lots of cricket memories with him and English cricket from his statrting days absolute legend.
 
Seamers after turning 35 in Test cricket:

Courtney Walsh 180 wickets in 39 Tests at 21.61
Sydney Barnes 139 wickets in 18 Tests at 14.80
Richard Hadlee 116 wickets in 23 Tests at 21.39
James Anderson 102 wickets in 26 Tests at 20.67
McGrath 82 wickets in 18 Tests at 22.89
 
I watched the game yesterday particularly the first half, felt Broad was the pick of the bowler, not sure how Anderson ended up with a 5-fer here. Anyways, good for him ensuring England go to second inning with a lead.

anderson bowled really well in the middle overs . he was was really unlucky not to get vd dussen's wicket and also others.
he thoroughly derved those 5 wickets. broad was better for the first 15 overs
 
The ignoramuses will say that he “cannot take wickets with a Kookaburra ball”.
 
The ignoramuses will say that he “cannot take wickets with a Kookaburra ball”.

Not only that even kohli has struggled against him till date and still hasn’t dominated him. If the worlds best bat can’t dominate you even by touring more than three times shows how great of a bowler you are.
 
anderson bowled really well in the middle overs . he was was really unlucky not to get vd dussen's wicket and also others.
he thoroughly derved those 5 wickets. broad was better for the first 15 overs

Broad will always remain better than Anderson with the Kookaburra. Jimmy is good in taking some cheap wickets in the latter spells after the initial pressure is created by Broad.

Anderson is no doubt phenomenal in England with the duke ball but I always find Broad leading the attack for England outside of England and Windies.
 
He is an ATG. He is the leading test wicket taker among fast bowlers, there is no way you can say he's not an ATG. Still though, he's below the likes of McGrath and Steyn.
 
Jimmy Anderson took his first 5 wicket Test Match haul when

Zak Crawley age 5
Dom Sibley age 7
Joe Root age 12
Ben Stokes age 11
Ollie Pope age 5
Jos Buttler age 12
Sam Curran age 4
Dom Bess age 5

Now they are all in the same team together
 
I will always rate Anderson as a brilliant bowler in England and in English conditions.
Kudos for the longevity too but he did give up the shorter formats a long time ago and he’s guaranteed 6-8 tests every summer at home...

So a great English bowler but not an ATG, not for me.
 
The best thing about Jimmy is he hasn’t played for a single franchise in his extremely long career this shows how much he values his country. He hasn’t even played for a single t20 franchise or even t10. Teams he’s played for are england, Lancashire, and England cricket board xi respectively. This is just brilliant.
 
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Anderson still has mileage left.

He has had recent fitness issues, so lets see if he can carry on without injury.
 
Players like Kumble , Anderson are in a new category of boderline ATG. They have amazing longevity , but have big holes in their resume especially away performance. Pretty much every bowler with 400+ tests wickets with average closer to 30 than 25. On batting side Cook etc fit the bill. Also most guys with 10000+ runs with non balanced resume.
 
At 37, England pace bowler James Anderson only seems to be getting better with age.

On Sunday, 5 January, he finished with 5/40 in South Africa's first innings at Newlands, giving England a useful lead of 46. It was his 28th five-wicket haul, taking him past Ian Botham and R Ashwin for most five-fors, with Glenn McGrath (29) next in his sights.

Playing only his second Test since early August, when a calf injury cut short his Ashes after just four overs, he was delighted to shake off the rust, basking in the satisfaction that comes from a good day's work. It was precisely that feeling that kept him going, he said.

"I sat down at the end of the day [on Saturday] feeling like that is what I have missed," Anderson said. "That proper hard day of Test cricket, proper graft. A real battle with [Dean] Elgar and [Rassie] van der Dussen when they put their partnership together. That's why I still want to play cricket. That's what I get a buzz out of, coming off the field after a day like that. A pretty hot day, you're sweaty and you know you've put a shift in.

"I love that challenge that Test cricket brings. Putting in the hard yards in the field, having to graft for your wickets, having to try different fields, different plans. That's what I love about the game and that's why I want to keep playing."

For me, age is irrelevant. I feel good and work hard at my fitness.
James Anderson

Over half of Anderson's 582 Test wickets so far have come in the 80 games he's played since turning 30. And he's keen to keep going and proving that he deserves to be in the England set-up.

"For me, age is irrelevant," he added to BBC Sport. "I feel good and work hard at my fitness.

"As the grey hairs and wrinkles creep in, people will wonder how long I can go on for. Hopefully, I keep putting in performances and if I keep doing that, who knows how long I can go for?"

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1562332
 
England's James Anderson will find Test comeback 'very tough', warns Mark Ramprakash

Former England player Mark Ramprakash fears it will be "very tough" for James Anderson to prolong his Test career following the seamer's latest injury setback.
Anderson - who is England's all-time leading Test wicket-taker with 584 - also missed virtually the entire Ashes series last summer due to a calf injury and Ramprakash told Sky Sports News he was "very concerned" over the bowler's international future.
"It's not only disappointing that he's injured but it's also a serious injury for a fast bowler, not something to be taken lightly," he said.

"As we get on into the summer, Jimmy's creeping up to 38. He's done terrifically well to play as long as he has - but you feel, with the calf strain he had last summer and now this, it's going to be very tough for him to continue his England career.

"I guess it comes down to motivation, it comes down to that attitude and desire to do the training, and fast bowling is a very physical job. He worked incredibly hard to get back to full fitness.

"It was a prolonged thing, but he did the hard work, did the rehab and showed the commitment and his will to still be part of the England team and continue this fantastic career he's had."
Anderson returned the 28th five-wicket haul of his Test career in South Africa's first innings Ramprakash is convinced the experienced paceman would have played an important role in the third Test, which begins on Thursday January 16 at Port Elizabeth, live on Sky Sports Cricket, and then the series finale in Johannesburg.
Jofra Archer, who sat out the Cape Town Test with an elbow problem, is the favourite to replace Anderson at Port Elizabeth, although England could also turn to Mark Wood or Craig Overton.
"England have plenty of talent to choose from. For me, it'd be Archer because he's had a superb time since he came into Test cricket and he loves the big stage," added Ramprakash.

"He's inexperienced at Test level, but the only way he's going to get better is by playing. I think he has all the attributes to have a successful international career.

"Jimmy's got a stellar record. He's a great competitor and in terms of England's remaining matches on this trip, he would have had a big say.
"We saw how well he bowled at Cape Town, he'd regained that high standard of bowling we've become used to. So that's going to hurt England.
"He'll be a huge miss to the team and in particular to the captain, Joe Root, because he knows he's got a real trump card there."

Source: https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...est-comeback-very-tough-warns-mark-ramprakash
 
Players like Kumble , Anderson are in a new category of boderline ATG. They have amazing longevity , but have big holes in their resume especially away performance. Pretty much every bowler with 400+ tests wickets with average closer to 30 than 25. On batting side Cook etc fit the bill. Also most guys with 10000+ runs with non balanced resume.

How do you rate Courtney Walsh,Bob Willis,Shaun Pollock,they all had longetivity,they averaged less than 25,yet they are borderline ATG.
 
He just took 7 wickets under the sunny skies of Cape Town on a pretty flat pitch. He’s clearly still good enough. When his ribs have recovered then he will be fully eligible for selection again.
 
Not only that even kohli has struggled against him till date and still hasn’t dominated him. If the worlds best bat can’t dominate you even by touring more than three times shows how great of a bowler you are.

kohli butchered him in india and in the last tour he could not get kohli out even once.
 
How do you rate Courtney Walsh,Bob Willis,Shaun Pollock,they all had longetivity,they averaged less than 25,yet they are borderline ATG.

they are all great players just not the best.

GOAT shouldn't be called GOAT. it should be termed best of all time top 5 or something.

BOAT
GOAT
then
ATG
good players

that's how it goes.
greatest or GOAT is reserved for someone who is a consummate professional who had a great long career but has some flaws despite a stellar average like for example; guys like Courtney Walsh who wasn't good everywhere, pollock(struggled massively vs australia and to an extent in sub continent), waqar (poor record vs australia and india).

Then you have the best of all time. That's the true best players ever across generations who performed well everywhere.

kalis, smith, tenda, kohli, sobers, imran khan, mcgrath, Kris srikanth etc. These guys fall into the best of all time category.
 
they are all great players just not the best.

GOAT shouldn't be called GOAT. it should be termed best of all time top 5 or something.

BOAT
GOAT
then
ATG
good players

that's how it goes.
greatest or GOAT is reserved for someone who is a consummate professional who had a great long career but has some flaws despite a stellar average like for example; guys like Courtney Walsh who wasn't good everywhere, pollock(struggled massively vs australia and to an extent in sub continent), waqar (poor record vs australia and india).

Then you have the best of all time. That's the true best players ever across generations who performed well everywhere.

kalis, smith, tenda, kohli, sobers, imran khan, mcgrath, Kris srikanth etc. These guys fall into the best of all time category.

Kris srikanth loooooool, wasim was definitely all time great, 400 test 500 odi wickets, Shane Warne, murilichukran
 
But early part of last decade when kohli toured England he endured a nightmare from the bowling of sir jimmy

yea but kohli wasn't in his prime at the time.
baby kohli lost the battle vs prime Anderson.
peak kohli destroyed everyone everywhere.
prime anuskha kohli beat Anderson too.
 
He just took 7 wickets under the sunny skies of Cape Town on a pretty flat pitch. He’s clearly still good enough. When his ribs have recovered then he will be fully eligible for selection again.

I wonder about his ability to stand up for five days though. He is going on 38.
 
they are all great players just not the best.

GOAT shouldn't be called GOAT. it should be termed best of all time top 5 or something.

BOAT
GOAT
then
ATG
good players

that's how it goes.
greatest or GOAT is reserved for someone who is a consummate professional who had a great long career but has some flaws despite a stellar average like for example; guys like Courtney Walsh who wasn't good everywhere, pollock(struggled massively vs australia and to an extent in sub continent), waqar (poor record vs australia and india).

Then you have the best of all time. That's the true best players ever across generations who performed well everywhere.

kalis, smith, tenda, kohli, sobers, imran khan, mcgrath, Kris srikanth etc. These guys fall into the best of all time category.

Lol first have a look on bowling stats of Courtney Walsh and Shaun Pollock
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Walsh vs the best team at the time (australia) struggled in australia.

Shaun struggled vs australia and wasn't that great vs west indies In early 2000 period in his prime. donald was more effective hence donald was greater and rightfully so.

Look at your own statement you said Walsh struggled everywhere and Walsh didn't struggled at home vs Australia,he struggled in Australia.
You said Pollock struggled vs Australia (i agree)but you also said Pollock struggled in Asia.
 
Look at your own statement you said Walsh struggled everywhere and Walsh didn't struggled at home vs Australia,he struggled in Australia.
You said Pollock struggled vs Australia (i agree)but you also said Pollock struggled in Asia.

to an extent I said relative to donald. That's what I meant. Precisely the reason why he should be in the GOAT type category rather the BOAT (best of all time) which should be reserved for guys like imran, sobers, smith tenda etc. pollock and walsh are just a tier below.
I personally would put donald in the BOAT type category but I can understand if he was rated as a tier 2 player like courtney Walsh. Which is just a tad under the true greats.

pollock could never run through teams like donald did.

walsh wasn't as deadly as ambrose. It's a fact.
 
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after safrica tour, the rest of england's tests are in india and sri lanka, don't think eng will risk him injured in asia

he will most likely retire this year as he won't play that many tests anyway
 
to an extent I said relative to donald. That's what I meant. Precisely the reason why he should be in the GOAT type category rather the BOAT (best of all time) which should be reserved for guys like imran, sobers, smith tenda etc. pollock and walsh are just a tier below.
I personally would put donald in the BOAT type category but I can understand if he was rated as a tier 2 player like courtney Walsh. Which is just a tad under the true greats.

pollock could never run through teams like donald did.

walsh wasn't as deadly as ambrose. It's a fact.

Donald was already in great category it's just that Steyn outshined him.
 
Insane longetivity has to count for something. Anderson has a good record in India, Sri Lanka, he has been decent in UAE. He played a big role in England beating Australia in Australia in 2010-11 Ashes. He is England's best bowler. His story is even more remarkable because from 2003 to 2006 he was out of the English team and struggling for form but since 2007 he has never looked back.
 
Donald was already in great category it's just that Steyn outshined him.

And he started playing at the age of 26 in international cricket due to apartheid.
He would have got more wickets if he had played international at early age.
 
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Don't blame Anderson for wanting to carry on tho, he obviously desires to get 600 test wickets before calling it a day, he is so close.
 
Number of wickets and number of runs are bit overrated in terms of criteria to judge greatness as in cricket the number of test matches each country plays varies big time.

That being said Anderson is a great of modern era but not exactly has ATG stats in tests with a bowling average of 26.83. Average of around 24 or under with 300+ wickets in tests is the starting point to enter that greatness in my opinion.

Not to forget Anderson averaged 30 plus everywhere except in Eng, WI and UAE and on the contrary someone like Wasim for example who is considered an ATG averaged under 30 everywhere except couple of tests he played in SA and averaged under 24 or under in Aus, NZ, Pak and Srl. That is a big contrast and thus in my opinion Anderson cant be considered an ATG based upon his career average and record across the countries.

Anderson debuted at around 20/21 years of age, many other bowlers debuted at the similar or even younger age but they couldnt play as many tests (151) as Anderson because their teams didnt play as much cricket.

Some greats lasted as long in terms of number of years but couldnt play as many tests. They might have done better or worse in those extra tests and that we will never know. However, I still think 300+ wickets at an avg of 24 or under provides a balanced benchmark of greatness taking into account the varying number of tests players from different countries play.
 
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How do you rate Courtney Walsh,Bob Willis,Shaun Pollock,they all had longetivity,they averaged less than 25,yet they are borderline ATG.
Courtney Walsh is a bonafied ATG bowler in my book Shaun Pollock has a very strong case too , though for nearly entire career they were not the best bowler in the team. That tend to go against them and rightly so.
I need to check Bob Willis stats more in depth to see where he lies.
Away average is very important criteria too.
 
Pollock is an ATG test bowler and without any doubt SA's greatest ODI bowler of all time who would walk into either first or second ODI all time XI easily.

Walsh is also an undisputed ATG.Jimmy is a borderline one, thanks to his longevity but his greatness has mostly come through his exploits with the Duke bowl.
 
Lol kohli got dropped off of his bowling should I post his spell here where he traumatized kohli on the 4th stump line


did he get him out or not?
no. He got wrecked by kohli. He got wrecked even worse in india by kohli.

prime kohli destroys any version of Anderson.

every bacchha is a superstar in familiar conditons.

take philander. if you look at his record you would think he is as good as imran or wasim rofl. he is **** outside SENA. Just like Anderson.
 
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did he get him out or not?
no. He got wrecked by kohli. He got wrecked even worse in india by kohli.

prime kohli destroys any version of Anderson.

every bacchha is a superstar in familiar conditons.

take philander. if you look at his record you would think he is as good as imran or wasim rofl. he is **** outside SENA. Just like Anderson.

Anderson has excellent returns in WI and UAE, whereas he is really just a stock bowler in SA, AUS and BZ.
 
did he get him out or not?
no. He got wrecked by kohli. He got wrecked even worse in india by kohli.

prime kohli destroys any version of Anderson.

every bacchha is a superstar in familiar conditons.

take philander. if you look at his record you would think he is as good as imran or wasim rofl. he is **** outside SENA. Just like Anderson.

Bro are you kidding me 2014 4 dismissals. 2018 even though he didn’t get out to Anderson kohli did not dominate him. Plus what wrecking is called 4-1 what england did to India kohli couldn’t even win them the series so he did no wrecking. I wish I knew how to do that cricinfo player vs player thing kohlis average would be quite low against Anderson’s beleive.
 
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Bro are you kidding me 2014 4 dismissals. 2018 even though he didn’t get out to Anderson kohli did not dominate him. Plus what wrecking is called 4-1 what england did to India kohli couldn’t even win them the series so he did no wrecking. I wish I knew how to do that cricinfo player vs player thing kohlis average would be quite low against Anderson’s beleive.

he negated Anderson in his own country. He doesn't have to score specifically against him.

He wrecked him in india where he did nothing.

wrecking lol. india would have won every test if they won the toss. plus bumrah dint play first 2 games.

bhuvi missed the series. etc.
 
he negated Anderson in his own country. He doesn't have to score specifically against him.

He wrecked him in india where he did nothing.

wrecking lol. india would have won every test if they won the toss. plus bumrah dint play first 2 games.

bhuvi missed the series. etc.

Yaar I don’t expect these toss excuses from you other indian posters yeah one game they were chasing like 220 I think and kohli choked against stokes got out lbw India should have won that test I think it was even less than 220. Plus bruh like seriously toss that’s an uncontrollable no player or team can blame the toss if they lose. Though I see India is the only team that worries so much about the toss especially in t20s or Odis cause they would rather chase all the time regardless of conditions
 
Yaar I don’t expect these toss excuses from you other indian posters yeah one game they were chasing like 220 I think and kohli choked against stokes got out lbw India should have won that test I think it was even less than 220. Plus bruh like seriously toss that’s an uncontrollable no player or team can blame the toss if they lose. Though I see India is the only team that worries so much about the toss especially in t20s or Odis cause they would rather chase all the time regardless of conditions

yea I mean india buckled definitely. Granted we missed a couple of key players but regardless india should have chased better. india have been terrible chasing away from home in second innings. I don't recall india winning via chasing in the second innings away from home since ? Sri Lanka series in 2014? India really needs to work on that. Pathetic record off late whilst chasing in the second innings.

Indian players barring a few not playing county cricket for practice also hurts india.

curran freaking won the game for England twice. He really annoys me lol. He is such a pipsqueak but gee he is a very good in English conditions.
 
James Anderson hopes to return to the England team "stronger" and has not ruled out being fit for the tour of Sri Lanka in March.

The 37-year-old pace bowler broke a rib in the second Test against South Africa last week and will miss the rest of the four-match series.

It was only his second Test back after five months out with a calf injury.

"A broken rib will hopefully be healed in three or four weeks," he said on the Tailenders podcast.

"Once the bone has healed, I can get straight back into it."

Anderson, England's all-time leading wicket-taker, bowled only four overs in last summer's Ashes series because of the calf problem.

He endured a difficult return in England's first Test defeat by South Africa, only to claim five wickets in the first innings of the second Test, which the tourists won to level the series.

"I know a lot does get talked about as you get older, but it's more knowing within yourself," said the Lancashire man. "I thought I could still do it, but you don't know unless you do it on the field.

"That will help me through the next few weeks, knowing that I want to come back stronger and still play a part in this England side.

"I'm not ruling out being fit for the Sri Lanka trip."

England face Sri Lanka in two Tests, with the first Test starting on 19 March.

As England pushed for victory on the final day of the second Test in Cape Town, Anderson did not bowl at all in the afternoon session and was in clear discomfort when he sent down two overs after tea.

"I was in the most pain I've ever been in on a cricket field," he said. "I couldn't pull through properly.

"It was hurting every time I bowled, so I knew there was something not right.

"I was saying to Stuart Broad 'I think there's something really wrong here'. I thought I'd ripped a muscle off the rib, so a broken rib isn't the worst outcome. A torn muscle would be anywhere from two, three or four months.

"The first question the physio asked was if I had been hit - in the nets or landing on it fielding. I'd have remembered if I'd been hit. They think it is through the constant force of me bowling. The muscles were strong enough, but the bone wasn't."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/51127971
 
In England with the Dukes Anderson's role is simply to get the batsman out. He's the main man and his job is to attack, not to worry about runs conceded, just to get the batsmen out. In conditions that don't favour him, such as in Ind or in SL, he becomes more of a stock bowler who limits the batsmen's run scoring and tries to work them over rather than send their stumps cart wheeling.

Also, I don't get why so many have to play the role of a jury when it comes to Anderson's career. Why can't we just enjoy him for what he does. The bloke got a hat trick against us in the 2003 WC and played through numerous Ashes series. Eng's test team has been changed with new faces and he's still around and got a 5 fer (overseas) a few days back. Just give him the credit he deserves for lasting this long as a quick and just enjoy his bowling.
 
The last 5 years his away record has been terrible due to age. Especially in subcontinent and flat pitches of Australia

However, believe it or not, his record in UAE is better than Steyns. Anderson has a lower avg and more wickets per match.

Furthermore, he won 2 man of the match awards in india and has a 5 wicket haul in Sri Lanka
His record in Windies is good, also got a 5 wicket haul in there this year.

He is not good away, but not nearly as bad as asian and aussie fans make him out to be. He bowls tight and is a good container in all conditions

This is a good point. With the Duke ball he is an excellent strike bowler, with the Kookaburra a competent stock bowler.
 
England fast bowler James Anderson says he is hoping to return from injury for next month's tour of Sri Lanka.

Anderson suffered a broken rib in the second Test against South Africa and missed the final two games in the series as England ran out 3-1 winners.

England's all-time leading Test wicket-taker is optimistic he will recover in time for the first Test against Sri Lanka which starts on March 19, live on Sky Sports Cricket.

"It's good, it's all healed and I'm back in the gym," Anderson told Sky Sports. "I've been training for a few weeks now, getting my bowling back up to speed. I feel really good."

"That's the aim [to be ready for Sri Lanka]. The aim for me is to get fit for whatever is next and at the moment that is Sri Lanka.

"With a broken bone you are just waiting for that to heal, you've not lost any fitness. It's about building my bowling back up now. We've got a month before that tour so we have to just wait and see what the selectors think.

"I'm not entirely sure [how I got injured]. The physios think it was through bowling so it was a bit of a freak. The pressure of me bowling has just gone in the wrong place and cracked my rib."

Anderson's potential return will provide a much-needed boost for England, who have already seen fast bowler Jofra Archer ruled out of the trip to Sri Lanka with a stress fracture of the right elbow.

Despite calls for Anderson to be rested for tours to the subcontinent due to the tricky conditions for fast bowlers, the 37-year-old said: "If I'm fit I want to be playing for England, wherever that might be.

"I showed in South Africa that I can still do it abroad. I think I've been unlucky in the last few months with injuries but I think my record before that has been pretty good injury-wise.

"I'm hoping I can keep fit as long as possible, if I'm fit then I want to be playing wherever England are."

https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...son-england-bowler-targeting-sri-lanka-return
 
As per ECB release for Test tour of SL:

Lancashire seamer James Anderson, who is recovering from a cracked rib sustained in January during the second Test in Cape Town against South Africa, will continue to condition and prepare ahead of the start of the English season.

“Jimmy Anderson will continue to work with Lancashire and the ECB so that he is ready for the start of the County Championship season leading into the Test series against the West Indies in June.
 
I rate him a level below Waqar, Pollock and Walsh. Phenomenal bowler with Duke and decent to good with rest.
 
England bowler James Anderson says he is feeling "a bit anxious" because of the impact coronavirus could have on his professional and personal life.

A possible rescheduling of the cricket season will be discussed on Thursday.

The 2020 County Championship is due to begin on 12 April, while England are set to play West Indies in a three-Test series starting on 4 June.

"Cricket and sport is not the be all and end all but it is my livelihood, it's all I know," Anderson, 37, said.

"There's a chance we might not even bowl a ball this summer."

The England and Wales Cricket Board has said all options are being looked at, including postponements and playing games behind closed doors.

England's tour of Sri Lanka was called off last week, while England and Nottinghamshire batsman Alex Hales and six Surrey men's players are all self-isolating.

Hampshire chairman Rod Bransgrove said one contingency may be "playing no cricket at all" this season.

Anderson, England's leading wicket-taker in Tests, last played in the second Test against South Africa in January before a rib injury ruled him out of the rest of the series.

He had been left out of the squad for England's cancelled two-Test tour of Sri Lanka in the hope of being fully fit for the start of the summer.

"The season is unlikely to start," Anderson said, speaking to the BBC's Tailenders podcast.

"It's still a little bit hazy as to what's going to happen.

"I feel a little bit anxious. Just the not knowing is giving me a bit of anxiety.

"Also trying to keep a young family healthy. I am trying to stay calm, follow the guidelines.

"My wife's mum and dad live in Spain so they are in lockdown. They are in the age group where there are concerns. The anxiety is building up in our house because of not knowing what will happen in the next few months."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/51944475
 
600 wickets for a swing bowler. That's massive. Equivalent to 15000 runs from a batter.
 
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