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He wasn't. He was better in Australian conditons yes. Otherwise kohli was better everywhere else.He was better than Kohli in 2015
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He wasn't. He was better in Australian conditons yes. Otherwise kohli was better everywhere else.He was better than Kohli in 2015
Aus tour of India 2016- ahighest run scorer Smith 499 .. from India’s side it was Pujara , Kohli wasnt close to Smith in that series in our home.He wasn't. He was better in Australian conditons yes. Otherwise kohli was better everywhere else.
Aus tour of India 2016- ahighest run scorer Smith 499 .. from India’s side it was Pujara , Kohli wasnt close to Smith in that series in our home.
Multiple examples: Smith had the biggest purple patch I ever saw a batsman having and I have been watching cricket since 1990s..
2017..Feb MarchCan you tell me when that happened? I only recall India touring aus in 2016, not aus touring india
Brother that's test. Kohli was far far > Smith as an allformat batter though and that was proven in ct 2017.2017..Feb March
In 2015-2017Brother that's test. Kohli was far far > Smith as an allformat batter though and that was proven in ct 2017.
Evey format is different. Being a goat in format doesn't mean you're a goat in all formats. Case in point YK.
Kohli has always been > Smith in t20. He's always been > Smith minus one world cup in Australian conditions in odi and he's always been > Smith in test minus one series in 2017.
Singling out series means nothing lol
I'm not being a babar fan.In 2015-2017
Smith was better ODI and test player than Kohli.. and at home or away he was absolute beast in that WC..
He was so ahead in tests and ahead of Kohli in ODI in those two years as well.
Please don’t be like Babar fans and bring in JAM ODIs..
He wanted to open and he said that himself. He failed to perform at this position till now. Still not enough games to judge but Smith is not a youngster, he is a top class batter so he should know, this position is not for him.If Smith was Pakistani/Indian, the fans would be criticizing him for being “selfish” by “blackmailing” the the management to open with him and blocking the path of a “youngster”.
Fact is that opening with Smith is a slap in the face of all the young up and coming openers in Australia. It shows that the selectors and the team management have zero faith in their capabilities.
It is not about performing or not performing. Smith is a GOAT Test batsman and I’m sure he will score soon, but him opening is principally wrong. It was a very selfish, self- centered and short-sighted decision.He wanted to open and he said that himself. He failed to perform at this position till now. Still not enough games to judge but Smith is not a youngster, he is a top class batter so he should know, this position is not for him.
Yes, you are right. Should have made way for some youngster to open and keep playing at the number 3 spot.It is not about performing or not performing. Smith is a GOAT Test batsman and I’m sure he will score soon, but him opening is principally wrong. It was a very selfish, self- centered and short-sighted decision.
Usman Khawaja is 37, he will be retiring soon as well and he should have been paired with a young opener.
Sachin can’t play an innings like this one even if his life depended on it.Can't compare him to guys like Viv and Sachin. I am sure a technically deficient player like Smith can't have a 24 years long career like Sachin, his entire game is based on hand eye coordination and that is gone with age.
I think soon it will be clear that Smith is inferior to AB and Kohli.
At home many greats have played such innings especially against weak opponents. And Smith couldn't even finish the game lmao.Sachin can’t play an innings like this one even if his life depended on it.
That’s what differentiates Smith the GOAT from other great accumulators.
Sachins 136 was miles better than this Innings. Smith couldn't even at home against the windies lolSachin can’t play an innings like this one even if his life depended on it.
That’s what differentiates Smith the GOAT from other great accumulators.
Sachins 136 was miles better than this Innings. Smith couldn't even at home against the windies lol
No, you are confusing sachin with inzamam, miamdad and younis khan. I agree that the above 3 are no match for sachin and Smith. Nowhere close enoughSmith just played a great innings against a great bowling attack.
This is not his best innings but it's another great one from him.
Overall, Sachin is no match for Steven Smith as a test batsman. Smith is ahead.
It's not even a comparison. Smith is miles better than Tendulkar in tests.Smith just played a great innings against a great bowling attack.
This is not his best innings but it's another great one from him.
Overall, Sachin is no match for Steven Smith as a test batsman. Smith is ahead.
No I am not.No, you are confusing sachin with inzamam, miamdad and younis khan. I agree that the above 3 are no match for sachin and Smith. Nowhere close enough
It's not even a comparison. Smith is miles better than Tendulkar in tests.
Smith just played a great innings against a great bowling attack.
This is not his best innings but it's another great one from him.
Overall, Sachin is no match for Steven Smith as a test batsman. Smith is ahead.
no i dont think so... sachin no doubt is a very god ODI batter but u cant place him above Steve Smith.Overall Sachin is above Smith in tests and so is Viv.
Great bowling attack? Which ATG was bowling?
no i dont think so... sachin no doubt is a very god ODI batter but u cant place him above Steve Smith.
You have to say why?
The avg difference between both is now. 4.xx but Sachin has played more innings.
The quality of bowling was better in 90s and early 2000s. Pitches were less batter friendly.
Tendulkar's minimum avg in a country is 40. Smith is behind him here.
Smith hasn't played in SA for 6 years. Hasn't played in NZ for 8 years.
Hasn't played in WI for 9 years.
Out of his 107 tests, 75 has been in England or Australia.
He hasn't played around the world as extensively as Tendulkar.
I am not even going into white ball cricket where Tendulkar is head and shoulders above Smith.
@Hitman
Yes and most of the tough pitches are found in SA and India only. Australia have laid good batting wickets all through Smith's career.
You should know by now a certain people would rate Mohammad Yousuf and Inzamam above Tendulkar, let alone a fine batsman like Smith.You have to say why?
The avg difference between both is now. 4.xx but Sachin has played more innings.
The quality of bowling was better in 90s and early 2000s. Pitches were less batter friendly.
Tendulkar's minimum avg in a country is 40. Smith is behind him here.
Smith hasn't played in SA for 6 years. Hasn't played in NZ for 8 years.
Hasn't played in WI for 9 years.
Out of his 107 tests, 75 has been in England or Australia.
He hasn't played around the world as extensively as Tendulkar.
I am not even going into white ball cricket where Tendulkar is head and shoulders above Smith.
@Hitman
Funny how new players get added to the list of being better than Tendulkar with time. First it was Lara in the 90's, then Ponting, then Kallis, then Sangakkara, then Cook, now Smith and RootYou have to say why?
The avg difference between both is now. 4.xx but Sachin has played more innings.
The quality of bowling was better in 90s and early 2000s. Pitches were less batter friendly.
Tendulkar's minimum avg in a country is 40. Smith is behind him here.
Smith hasn't played in SA for 6 years. Hasn't played in NZ for 8 years.
Hasn't played in WI for 9 years.
Out of his 107 tests, 75 has been in England or Australia.
He hasn't played around the world as extensively as Tendulkar.
I am not even going into white ball cricket where Tendulkar is head and shoulders above Smith.
@Hitman
They cling on to any random foreign great but never one of their own.Funny how new players get added to the list of being better than Tendulkar with time. First it was Lara in the 90's, then Ponting, then Kallis, then Sangakkara, then Cook, now Smith and Root![]()
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You're wrong! They tried to make their own Inzamam better than Tendulkar. Until when the late, great Shane Warne rated Tendulkar at #1 and Inzamam at #90 in his list of 100 greatest players he played with and againstThey cling on to any random foreign great but never one of their own.
But you don't compare them with Steven Smith in test cricket. He is the boss.
Great post here.He's the boss at not winning a single series in ENG/IND.
Great post here.
Smith is mediocre.
Best batter is not just someone with good stats. Best batter should also have good techniques.
Smith may have the stats but the technique is very creepy. He is the batting version of Bumrah.
In case of Smith, it's not just stats. He has genuine impact with bat in top countries home and away in his prime days.
From here on his average will only decrease the way he is batting right now .Taras ata hai at those who were claiming that he'll end his career with an average of more than 60.
Still remember a certain poster in 2006 dancing how Ponting will end his career with an average of more than 60 with 60 centuriesFrom here on his average will only decrease the way he is batting right now .
Most likely finish around 55 .
Smith can play for some time, but his performance has been far below his usual standards agasint India in the last 8-9 tests. One of the reasons for Aus to lose so many test series agaisnt India. Best time to correct it on home turf because winning in india will be a lot harder.Former Australia captain and star batter Steve Smith opened up regarding his retirement rumours, stating that he is currently enjoying the game, he said:
“I don’t have any retirement plans, I’m just enjoying playing at the moment. I’m pretty relaxed and I’m looking forward to this summer,”
“I think I’ll get a few (BBL) games in this year and then we’ll see where we go from there. Every chance I get, I jump at it,”
“I’m looking forward to the Border Gavaskar Trophy. India is going to be a great challenge, they’re a very good side. We’re the two best Test teams in the world,”
“The conversations I’ve had so far are that we’ll go to England and the boys will have the T20s, and then I’m there for the one-dayers and we’ll make a decision after that,”
“Those conversations are happening in the background. I saw some comments that Usman (Khawaja) made and I think he said he likes me down at number four, and I think Marnus (Labuschagne) is of a similar thought pattern."
“I’m happy wherever and I’ll bat anywhere for the team. For me it’s just a position.”
In 2015 he wasSmith in the white Ball was never among the best players like rohit, virat, warner etc.
In red-ball, he is probably the best batter in the last decade since he rose to the occasion as a batter. His Fab 4 was not justified TBH because his all-format game was not up to mark.
His dip at 34 is nowhere near as bad as Bobby's dip at 29A big dip in his form in limited-over cricket. Can he improve?
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Its well below his stats in AustraliaSteve Smith has had a solid record in Adelaide in Test cricket, with one century and four fifties.
Can he recover after his failure in the first Test?
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Difference is Steve Smith's peak was close to Bradman's level. 70 to 86 avg year by year is something pointing never did.Steven Smith c †Pant b Bumrah 2 (11b 0x4 0x6) SR: 18.18
Steve Smith now averages 56.09.
The problem with a lot of fans is that they assume a player in an unbelievable purple patch would continue it till his final innings of his career. Things don't work out that way. Nothing to take away from him though. He has been a very high quality Test batsman.
Ponting at his absolute peak in 2006 averaged just a shade below 60. He ended his career with an average of just above 51.