He never demolished Bumrah. Bumrah had the 2nd highest workload of all the bowlers in series till the 3rd match because he was being overbowled to compensate for the perennially injured bowler in the team and because he was the most threatening of all our other bowlers. He was rested after the 3rd test not from injury but from sheer workload. And Smith only scored runs after getting to the flat patta in Sydney with Bumrah and Ashwin already exhausted. He had been dominated until that point and couldn't do much at the Gabba despite India missing 7 first pick bowlers.
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Makes you wonder if people even watch cricket live.
That phase of play when he struggled to rotate strike against Ashwin at one end in the 2nd innings at Melbourne was very fascinating and then Bumrah started cramping him for room and he ended up getting bowled around his legs on the legside. He only started scoring in the flattest wicket of the series in Sydney.
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It’s final, Steve Smith not available for Delhi Capitals for IPL 2021 in UAE
IPL 2021 Phase 2 – Steve Smith Delhi Capitals: As expected, Steve Smith is all set to miss out the 2nd phase of IPL 2021 in UAE. One of the world’s most prolific batsman will not be available to Delhi Capitals for the 2nd leg of IPL. According to the information available, Smith is currently battling with injury to his elbow will not risk playing IPL again this year. The former captain of Australian team will rather rest and get ready for the Ashes Series against England.
https://www.insidesport.co/ipl-2021-phase-2-its-final-steve-smith-not-available-for-delhi-capitals-for-ipl-2021-in-uae/
IPL 2021 Phase 2 – Steve Smith Delhi Capitals: As expected, Steve Smith is all set to miss out the 2nd phase of IPL 2021 in UAE. One of the world’s most prolific batsman will not be available to Delhi Capitals for the 2nd leg of IPL. According to the information available, Smith is currently battling with injury to his elbow will not risk playing IPL again this year. The former captain of Australian team will rather rest and get ready for the Ashes Series against England.
https://www.insidesport.co/ipl-2021-phase-2-its-final-steve-smith-not-available-for-delhi-capitals-for-ipl-2021-in-uae/
With Iyer back, there is no place for him anyway. Hopefully Nortje can play now.
Even in LOI's he was only good at Sydney (both his 60 ball tons came there). Once they moved out of there - bang average.
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Steve Smith says Australia will be put to the test "physically, mentally and emotionally" as they confront a nightmare away schedule in the new World Test Championship (WTC) period.
Australia only narrowly missed the final of the recently-concluded WTC due to an over-rate penalty in last summer's second Border-Gavaskar Test in Melbourne, with the decider of the new concept won by New Zealand over India in England last month.
But of the 14 Tests they played through what was effectively a two-year tournament, nine were at home, with the other five made up of the 2019 Ashes in the UK. Tours to Bangladesh and South Africa were cancelled amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
This time around, it is a vastly different proposition; Australia are scheduled to play 18 Tests in the August 2021 to June 2023 window, and while the majority of those (10) are again at home, the other eight are all set to be on the subcontinent, with two-match series in Pakistan and Sri Lanka next year, and a four-match series against India likely to be held in early 2023.
Australia's World Test Championship (WTC) schedule
Home Tests
England (5), West Indies (2), South Africa (3)
Away Tests
Pakistan (2), Sri Lanka (2), India (4)
Australia also host Afghanistan in a one-off Test from Nov 27, however this is not part of the WTC
It is almost a decade since Australia tasted series success in the five-day format in Asia, when Michael Clarke's side beat Sri Lanka one-nil in a three-match series.
Since, they have lost five series (twice to India and Pakistan, and once to Sri Lanka), managed a one-all draw with Bangladesh, and won just two out of 17 Tests in the region.
Among the batters in the Australia Test set-up or on its periphery, only Smith and David Warner have scored a Test hundred in any of those countries, or the United Arab Emirates, which has long acted as a home base for Pakistan.
Australia's top Test batters in Asia (past 10 years)
Steve Smith | M: 13 Runs: 1,200 HS: 178no Ave: 48.00
David Warner | M: 15 Runs: 1,041 HS: 133 Ave: 34.70
Shaun Marsh | M: 9 Runs: 558 HS: 141 Ave: 32.82
Michael Clarke | M: 8 Runs: 557 HS: 130 Ave: 37.13
Mike Hussey | M: 3 Runs: 463 HS: 142 Ave: 92.60
"I've had a look at the Future Tours Programme and it's pretty hectic, so there's plenty to look forward to, obviously including the Ashes and then tours to the subcontinent which, particularly in Test cricket, they challenge you physically, mentally and emotionally," Smith told cricket.com.au.
"They're great tours to be involved in and really test you as a player. I'm certainly looking forward to those.
"I think (the WTC) is a pretty cool concept – to have more relevance in every game you play, I think is great.
"We were obviously very disappointed not to be (in the final), and over the last couple of years we talked about it being our focus of where we wanted to get to, but we fell short.
"So we've got some work to do as a team to give ourselves the best chance to be there next time."
Australia have not toured Pakistan since 1998, making the country a complete unknown for the current generation when it comes to Test cricket, though Sri Lanka's recent struggles – their only two wins from 12 matches in the WTC window came against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe – will likely see Justin Langer's side head to the island nation confident of avoiding the same fate as the 2016 Australians, who were bewitched by spin and fell to a humiliating three-nil series defeat having entered the series as the No.1 Test nation.
India, who have not been beaten at home in a Test series since 2012, then provide perhaps the most formidable challenge in the game.
By the time the Pakistan tour arrives early next year (pending, of course, travel and safety issues relating to the pandemic), it will be three-and-a-half years since Australia played Test cricket in Asia, while their schedule through 2020-21 – postponed tours to South Africa and Bangladesh notwithstanding – is particularly thin; by year's end, only Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Ireland will have played less Test cricket in that two-year window.
Even had those two series gone ahead, Australia's then 14 Tests would have paled in comparison to England's 25 through the same period.
"It's been a bit of a bizarre year obviously, and COVID hasn't helped a lot of situations in every industry," added Smith.
"But yeah, after our series against India, I think England were going to play 13 Tests to our zero, which seems a lot.
"As someone that loves Test cricket, I'd love to play as much as we can, but I'm not in control of scheduling."
Australia's WTC campaign begins with the Vodafone Ashes against England on December 8 at the Gabba, with Smith telling cricket.com.au this week he plans to prioritise the iconic Test event as he recovers from an elbow injury.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ste...nent-india-sri-lanka-pakistan-asia/2021-07-04
Australia only narrowly missed the final of the recently-concluded WTC due to an over-rate penalty in last summer's second Border-Gavaskar Test in Melbourne, with the decider of the new concept won by New Zealand over India in England last month.
But of the 14 Tests they played through what was effectively a two-year tournament, nine were at home, with the other five made up of the 2019 Ashes in the UK. Tours to Bangladesh and South Africa were cancelled amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
This time around, it is a vastly different proposition; Australia are scheduled to play 18 Tests in the August 2021 to June 2023 window, and while the majority of those (10) are again at home, the other eight are all set to be on the subcontinent, with two-match series in Pakistan and Sri Lanka next year, and a four-match series against India likely to be held in early 2023.
Australia's World Test Championship (WTC) schedule
Home Tests
England (5), West Indies (2), South Africa (3)
Away Tests
Pakistan (2), Sri Lanka (2), India (4)
Australia also host Afghanistan in a one-off Test from Nov 27, however this is not part of the WTC
It is almost a decade since Australia tasted series success in the five-day format in Asia, when Michael Clarke's side beat Sri Lanka one-nil in a three-match series.
Since, they have lost five series (twice to India and Pakistan, and once to Sri Lanka), managed a one-all draw with Bangladesh, and won just two out of 17 Tests in the region.
Among the batters in the Australia Test set-up or on its periphery, only Smith and David Warner have scored a Test hundred in any of those countries, or the United Arab Emirates, which has long acted as a home base for Pakistan.
Australia's top Test batters in Asia (past 10 years)
Steve Smith | M: 13 Runs: 1,200 HS: 178no Ave: 48.00
David Warner | M: 15 Runs: 1,041 HS: 133 Ave: 34.70
Shaun Marsh | M: 9 Runs: 558 HS: 141 Ave: 32.82
Michael Clarke | M: 8 Runs: 557 HS: 130 Ave: 37.13
Mike Hussey | M: 3 Runs: 463 HS: 142 Ave: 92.60
"I've had a look at the Future Tours Programme and it's pretty hectic, so there's plenty to look forward to, obviously including the Ashes and then tours to the subcontinent which, particularly in Test cricket, they challenge you physically, mentally and emotionally," Smith told cricket.com.au.
"They're great tours to be involved in and really test you as a player. I'm certainly looking forward to those.
"I think (the WTC) is a pretty cool concept – to have more relevance in every game you play, I think is great.
"We were obviously very disappointed not to be (in the final), and over the last couple of years we talked about it being our focus of where we wanted to get to, but we fell short.
"So we've got some work to do as a team to give ourselves the best chance to be there next time."
Australia have not toured Pakistan since 1998, making the country a complete unknown for the current generation when it comes to Test cricket, though Sri Lanka's recent struggles – their only two wins from 12 matches in the WTC window came against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe – will likely see Justin Langer's side head to the island nation confident of avoiding the same fate as the 2016 Australians, who were bewitched by spin and fell to a humiliating three-nil series defeat having entered the series as the No.1 Test nation.
India, who have not been beaten at home in a Test series since 2012, then provide perhaps the most formidable challenge in the game.
By the time the Pakistan tour arrives early next year (pending, of course, travel and safety issues relating to the pandemic), it will be three-and-a-half years since Australia played Test cricket in Asia, while their schedule through 2020-21 – postponed tours to South Africa and Bangladesh notwithstanding – is particularly thin; by year's end, only Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Ireland will have played less Test cricket in that two-year window.
Even had those two series gone ahead, Australia's then 14 Tests would have paled in comparison to England's 25 through the same period.
"It's been a bit of a bizarre year obviously, and COVID hasn't helped a lot of situations in every industry," added Smith.
"But yeah, after our series against India, I think England were going to play 13 Tests to our zero, which seems a lot.
"As someone that loves Test cricket, I'd love to play as much as we can, but I'm not in control of scheduling."
Australia's WTC campaign begins with the Vodafone Ashes against England on December 8 at the Gabba, with Smith telling cricket.com.au this week he plans to prioritise the iconic Test event as he recovers from an elbow injury.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/ste...nent-india-sri-lanka-pakistan-asia/2021-07-04
Smith averages something like 100 against Bumrah in tests and he also has good stats against him in LOIS which are not even his strong suit.
He has great number against India in general everywhere and in all formats although I was only referring to tests as he is not a great player in other formats. Bumrah is not a yard stick currently as there are at least 4/5 bowlers better than him in test cricket however in that series it was a good guide of how good Smith is. Indians should rate Smith even higher as he has great numbers against them even in the formats he is not good at.
Smith has scored 52 runs against Bumrah in 114 deliveries and gotten out once.
Another lie debunked. Next
He batted 29 balls against Bumrah at the MCG of which he scored 1 run and got out in the end. And homeboy here thinks Smith 'dominated' Bumrah.
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Look I'm not arguing about Smith's overall prowess as a Test batsman. He is the best test batsman in the world. Not sure why you're bringing irrelevant facts to the argument.
I'm talking about Smith's performance in that particular Test series in which you said Smith "destroyed" Bumrah, which I found funny because Smith struggled very much in that series. He particularly struggled against Ashwin and Bumrah in that series and only got some sort of rhythm going on the flattest deck of the series, which was probably designed to get him back into form in that series. The first two pitches were bowling friendly wickets and Smith clearly struggled in those two matches, you seem to have missed that as you probably didn't watch the series. What Smith did on roads in the ODI series before has no bearing on his performance in the Test series against India.
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He is probably thinking about the LOI series which had highway wickets and the SCG test and thinks Smith dominated Bumrah when we were quite clearly talking about the Test series only where Smith struggled to get it off the square. I mean I don't think anyone including the Australian fans gave a **** about the jamodis that happened prior to the Test series.
From what I watched he was dominating Bumrah taking singles at will and also hitting boundaries. And that is relative to how others in the same match was handling Bumrah. I am not saying Bumrah got destroyed and was smashed for loads or anything like that.. The Basic point is that so far in his career he has been able to handle the best bowlers he played against specially Indian bowlers
So he averages 52? I guess that's a bad average.
Regarding ODI series no I was not mentioning the ODI series as thats not Smith strong format anyway although he did smash Indians to all corners with ease and the only reason why India lost that series.
Regarding your point about relevance thats subjective when you lose you dont care and when you win you move on to the next. But Indian fans flooded every match and was showing passion as if it was WC final.
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Do you seriously think jamodis are important as test series..Indians will be mad about even Hong Kong sixes tournament, that has no relevance on its importance.
Test series matters more than jamodi series. You think Australian fans were happy on winning that jamodi series? I doubt they would even remember it, they care the most about Test cricket and most decent cricket fans know the difference between pointless ODI/T20 series and a marquee test series.
And no, Bumrah didn't rotate strike against Bumrah at will. You didn't watch the series well clearly.
As I said its subjective, There are people who don't watch test cricket at all and only remember the LOI wins etc I know that as a matter of fact.
Every series is worth winning and I dont get your point about comparing it to test series? the two formats are not comparable and why does it matter if they lost test series? should they have lost the ODI series as well? In general western / Australian cricket fans care about test cricket more than Asian cricket fans although that is also changing slowly.
In the innings Smith scored runs he handled Bumrah very well and the only time he got him out was when he was struggling to score against all bowlers round his legs. The bowler who actually troubled him was surprisingly Ashwin who got him out fair and square more than once in the series.
Now back to my original post which was more about Smith and less about India / Bumrah.. he is the best since Bradman in test cricket and that is proven by his stats.
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Got anything that backs up that the Australian public is starting to care more about ODI cricket? The fact that limited overs cricket is behind a paywall in Australia tells you all you need to know about the importance of that format.
I have played club cricket at premier level in England and also been involved in shield cricket in Australia. I have first hand experience of the kids 12/13 preferring LOI cricket over test cricket.
Easy to claim this anonymously on a internet forum. Without any proof. Its possible you haven't played anything beyond street cricket
I also regularly participate in all start XI, Whats hard to believe or dispute? I didn't say I was Virat or Babar Azam. Over the years I have played with few of Pakistan test crickets such as cheema and salman and trained with few others.
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Smith's average has dropped to a mere 60.something.
Noob.
Noob.
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I was going to make a thread. He isn't looking as good as he was over the last year or so.
Is it the start of the end of the phenomenon or is it random bad form?
Is it the start of the end of the phenomenon or is it random bad form?
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The end, he has been out of form for like 15 tests straight now.
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Last 9 Innings from Fab -4
Williamson - 493 runs
Kohli - 346 runs
Root - 313 runs
Steve Smith - 308 runs
Williamson - 493 runs
Kohli - 346 runs
Root - 313 runs
Steve Smith - 308 runs
I will still wait a little before calling Smith finished. There is another innings to go in this test and the picture will be clear at the end of 2022. He is obviously not that great anymore bit I still feel he has got another 3 to 4 good years left in him
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I have a different view, I think Smith's average will plummet to mid 50s by the time he retires. Not to different from Ponting.
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He is the best test batsman i witness.
But overall I rate Tendulkar, Kohli and Ponting higher than Smith.
But overall I rate Tendulkar, Kohli and Ponting higher than Smith.
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Would be interesting to see his average since he got the concussion a few years again when facing Jofra Archer.
Of course you will rate Kohli above Smith.
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He is so unbiased he might rate Rahane as par with Smith as overall batsman.
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His average may go down to whatever but he will always remain a greater player than Ponting.
Ponting never batted as good as Smith did in Ashes 2019, India 2017 or even Ashes 2017. That's both home and away Ashes and a test series in India ticked.
Ponting never batted as good as Smith did in Ashes 2019, India 2017 or even Ashes 2017. That's both home and away Ashes and a test series in India ticked.
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The best batsmen I have seen was viv Richards. Then miandad.
After them Lara and Sachin.. and gilchrist..uff..
After them Lara and Sachin.. and gilchrist..uff..
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38.56 since the start of the 5th Test at the Oval in September 2019.
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Not even the best Aussie bat. There's so much obsession with averages than actual performance and consistency. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'll have Damien Martyn over M. Clarke and S. Smith any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The bloke is seriously slept on. He was an all conditions player and stood up against quality bowlers. His only mistake was not averaging over a 100 in Australia like the two fellas I mentioned above. Top player was Martyn
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He had a stupendous peak just like Ponting did in the 2092-06 period. But pontings decline after that was pretty much permanent. Looks like Smith is going through something similar.
To be perfectly honest, while Smith has outstanding overall numbers - the constant twitching, calling for gloves and general quirkiness is just so grating to watch for prolonged periods.
Whereas I could watch Sachin, Ponting or Lara play all day long. That's just a personal thing and not meant to discredit him.
Whereas I could watch Sachin, Ponting or Lara play all day long. That's just a personal thing and not meant to discredit him.
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You trolling right? 90% of Martyn's career was on pancake pitches in the 2000s while Steve Smith is playing in the second hardest era for batting since second world war. You need serious reality check.
Steve Smith or Virat Kohli's dip in form just shows how difficult it is to maintain form at top level for elongated period. This just goes to show how good a batsman Tendulkar was who played test cricket for 22 years and still retired with an avg of 54. Its an eye opener for people who tries to ignore the longevity.
Far from your user name. Very biased fan.
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Ashes 2019( England)
India 2017( India)
Ashes 2017( Australia)
I don't think any Aussie batter ever batted so well as he did in these series away from home against two tough oppositions.
Take Ponting for example, he cashed on flat wickets all over the world and scored bucketload of runs, especially in Australia between 2001-2006 but still ended up producing a disastrous series in India 2001 which was considered the final frontier for Steve Waugh and his men. He averaged 03 in this series.
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No longer same old Smith.
He hasn't been the same since he served his ban. Form seems to have declined.
He hasn't been the same since he served his ban. Form seems to have declined.
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Smith is the greatest Test batsman since Don. The level of consistency that he showed across conditions and against a variety of world class bowling was unreal.
Between 2015 and 2019, any time Smith didn’t score a century seemed like a failure for him.
You cannot sustain that level of consistency forever. It is mentally and physically impossible. The sun sets on everyone.
It is clear that his best days are behind him, but he is still world class and the second best Australian batsman after Labuschagne.
Between 2015 and 2019, any time Smith didn’t score a century seemed like a failure for him.
You cannot sustain that level of consistency forever. It is mentally and physically impossible. The sun sets on everyone.
It is clear that his best days are behind him, but he is still world class and the second best Australian batsman after Labuschagne.
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That's surely a big mistake, why are you mentioning it as if batting performances in Australia don’t count.
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Isn't that obvious?
Kohli is basically a GOAT contender in two other formats and an ATG in test , Smith is an undisputed ATG in test but nothing more than a good odi batsman and a failure as a t20i bat.
There's a reason why he did'nt get ICC cricketer of the decade award.
Kohli is no ATG in tests so far....his avg has been dropping continuously in last 2 years and he might retire with a below 50 avg which isn't ATG material.
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Please wait until Smith and Kohli retirement to hype Tendulkar average.
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Easily the ugliest and the most unattractive batter to have played so much international cricket.
When he is not scoring runs, his ugliness becomes unbearable.
When he is not scoring runs, his ugliness becomes unbearable.
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Sangakara and Kallis had similar longevity to Tendulkar and had to balance their batting with additional roles.
Kohli has had to bat with the added pressure of captaincy.
Tendulkar was lucky that he was just allowed to bat and not think about anything else. He just batted like a robot.
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Sangakkara left wicket keeping to concentrate on his batting and he played far lesser tests compared to Kallis or Tendulkar.
By the time Kallis made his debut, Tendulkar had played 6 years of test cricket.
Tendulkar made his debut in 1980s and retired in 2010s. Technically thats a career spanning 4 different decades and 24 years of cricket. No one in modern day comes close.
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If you want to give Tendulkar a medal for longevity thats fine he deserves it. He played for a long time and maintained a good average throughout.
My argument is that he had more longevity than his peers because he focussed only on batting. He couldn't handle the challenges of captaincy like Ponting, Lara and he didn't have additional skillset like Kallis or Sanga. You mention that Sanga left being a WK to focus on his batting but still he played over a third of his tests as a keeper.
Kohli may have had a longer batting peak if he was like Tendulkar with no leadership qualities and just focussed on batting.
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The best all format batsman since I started watching cricket are :-
Tendulkar ( GOAT in Test, GOAT in LOs)
Lara( GOAT in Test, ATG in LOs)
Kohli( ATG in Test, GOAT in LOs)
Ponting( ATG in Test, ATG in LOs)
ABD( ATG in Test, ATG in LOs)
Best Test batsman :-
Tendulkar
Lara
S Smith
Kallis
Ponting
Tendulkar ( GOAT in Test, GOAT in LOs)
Lara( GOAT in Test, ATG in LOs)
Kohli( ATG in Test, GOAT in LOs)
Ponting( ATG in Test, ATG in LOs)
ABD( ATG in Test, ATG in LOs)
Best Test batsman :-
Tendulkar
Lara
S Smith
Kallis
Ponting
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ABD should be GOAT in ODIs. He averages 53 at 100+ SR, and has the fastest 100 and 150 in ODIs.
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AB is a revolutionary of the modern era LOI cricket. He changed the way the limited overs was played in modern era, much like Viv and Jayasuriya did during their era. That's his legacy.
This has been mentioned by many great ex-cricketers.
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Yeah but unlike Gilchrist and Jayasuriya as compared to Tendulkar, ABD has been as good as Kohli in ODIs if not better. I personally rate ABD above Kohli myself.
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Thanks. Very interesting. Not saying there is a direct correlation necessarily, but from the dizzy heights of a ~63 batting average at his peak that is a huge drop.
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There was a bit of talk on social media recently that England started bowling much straighter at Smith during the 5th Test in 2019 and deliberately targeted the stumps, whereas previously the (erroneous) plan had been to bowl a fourth or fifth stump line outside off-stump and avoid bowling at Smith's pads as he was so strong off his legs. The boring him out strategy by bowling outside off-stump didn't really work.
New Zealand and India also showed that it's better to bowl straight at Smith and limit his scoring areas outside off-stump. He's obviously getting older so it might be just a case of slower reflexes, but who knew targeting the stumps was an effective bowling strategy.
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Today Broad was bowling directly at Smith’s pads and nearly had him out lbw on several occasions which unsettled him, then Wood came in and bounced him out on the hook. It felt a bit like England had worked him out.
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If Steve Smith is in decline, it will be a rapid one.
Pity - because he was the most prolific run scorer of the 2010s.
Pity - because he was the most prolific run scorer of the 2010s.
cricketjoshila
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Too early to say if Smith is in decline. The leg side line with bounce may work in Australia, may not work in other places.
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This is the problem right here. AB de Villiers is not a Test great an never will be. There's so much obsession with stats and supporting/watching players than actually watching and/or supporting the team. No offence, but I've don't like these kind of fans.
Ask any South African who shaped more games for us out of that fantastic group of players we had between 07-14: Smith, Kallis, Amla, Steyn, Philander and AB. AB ranks last comfortably. He had it easy, when Kallis and Smith retired with Amla past his peak, what did AB do? He chickened out like the coward he is. Initially moaned about workload, then started picking and choosing which series to play eventually retiring.
Let me ask you this, when the likes of Amla were scoring runs everywhere, why did AB not complain about his workload? He was after all asked to keep in England and Australia 2012? Could it have something to do with having a gun team? Could it?
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Martyn was unbelievable in India 04. Played in much tougher conditions than Smith has in his career. Faced better bowlers too
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Not necessarily. He still had an impact in Australia and helped his country win games. It's just that he never had the series M. Clarke had where he took his career average from 45 after 70 odd matches to over 50 in a single series. He plundered an inept Indian bowling unit over 4 Tests on flat wickets. Imagine a career average increasing by 5, that's taking the mickey. Is that what I'm supposed to rate? Surely there has to be context when rating players
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Smifff has scored 244 runs this Ashes, average 30, compared to 58 in the Ashes overall.
He looks vulnerable against the short ball, curiously. He's 32 so I don't think his eyesight will be fading yet. But he has such a bad technique that when his eyes start to go his form will collapse fast.
He looks vulnerable against the short ball, curiously. He's 32 so I don't think his eyesight will be fading yet. But he has such a bad technique that when his eyes start to go his form will collapse fast.
I mean Smith averages more overseas than Martyn (and everyone else) in a harder era for batting but ???
saying Kohli is a GOAT contender in those formats and then ranking him the same class as Smith in test cricket is unfair to Smith; the difference between Smith and Kohli in test cricket is similar to the difference between Kohli and Rahane. Smith is a contender for the 2nd best after Bradman, the only attainable position as Bradman was inhuman
Martyn had a great peak (in 2004) but it was very short-lived....he didn't do it for long enough
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Not only the short ball. The leg side trap whether short or by spinners like Ashwin, worked against him.
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I never said that Kohli and Smith are on same level in test cricket, there's a mountain of difference but I can't really call Smith a GOAT contender with Bradman being so far ahead and also if we are considering Bradman then Hobbs, Hutton, Hammond also come into the picture.
For me Smith is definitely ahead of Lara and SRT.
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We need to wait and see how things pan out over the next five years, Smith's had an incredible peak but it remains to be seen whether he can maintain the consistency over a long period of time as Lara and Tendulkar did. He's only played 82 Tests so far, and his average has declined by almost 5 points (64.5 to 59.8) in the last two years.
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Steve Smith - T20 Cricket
LOL his continuous selection in Australia's T20 cricket setup has got to be the biggest joke in world cricket I've seen to this day, and yes I said the biggest and not one of the biggest.
It's absolutely mind boggling, I'm dumbfounded.
Kohli being selected over and over again in Indian LO Cricket after nearly fifty continuous failures in one way or another makes sense, because he's done at one point, from India's perspective all he needs is that one inning and he'll be back.
But Smith over in Australia continuously being selected after being a garbage T20 player from day 1 is shocking, especially for a a talent pool that is Australia.
There has got to be something more to it, no way does Smith have that much pull where he becomes undroppable, what gives?
LOL his continuous selection in Australia's T20 cricket setup has got to be the biggest joke in world cricket I've seen to this day, and yes I said the biggest and not one of the biggest.
It's absolutely mind boggling, I'm dumbfounded.
Kohli being selected over and over again in Indian LO Cricket after nearly fifty continuous failures in one way or another makes sense, because he's done at one point, from India's perspective all he needs is that one inning and he'll be back.
But Smith over in Australia continuously being selected after being a garbage T20 player from day 1 is shocking, especially for a a talent pool that is Australia.
There has got to be something more to it, no way does Smith have that much pull where he becomes undroppable, what gives?
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I wouldn't have made a thread against Smith. This is maybe what he needed to succeed in T20's.
I personally feel he can do it even in T20's.
I personally feel he can do it even in T20's.
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Yes. Smith is surely gonna read this thread.
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He isnt Haider Ali, a recent debutant or an up and comer .
In T20s, Smith hasnt done it ever what makes you "feel" he will do it now? Lol nice try.
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IPL news —
Steve Smith, at a reserve price of 2 crore ($370k), went unsold but could still be picked up in the round of bidding on Sunday when teams can nominate unsold players they’re interested in. It’s still a massive fall from his $2.5 million deal with Rajasthan from just over 12 months ago.
Steve Smith, at a reserve price of 2 crore ($370k), went unsold but could still be picked up in the round of bidding on Sunday when teams can nominate unsold players they’re interested in. It’s still a massive fall from his $2.5 million deal with Rajasthan from just over 12 months ago.
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