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Absolutely pathetic behavior. I hope they are brought to justice (I doubt it will happen given the pervasive lawlessness in South Asia).
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Absolutely pathetic behavior. I hope they are brought to justice (I doubt it will happen given the pervasive lawlessness in South Asia).
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a> Sahib, can we please have a few words of condemnation for the systematic attacks directed against Kashmiri students & others or does your concern not extend as far north as Kashmir?</p>— Omar Abdullah (@OmarAbdullah) <a href="https://twitter.com/OmarAbdullah/status/1098132747103670272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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We can beat the hell out of your tourists in kashmir but their is difference between you and us
They can only show power to a lone person while they come in 100s
Shame for India and saddening to see in this day and age where has indian public reached
Your army have killed lakhs here we never hurt even one indian tourist here
They can only show power to a lone person while they come in 100s
Shame for India and saddening to see in this day and age where has indian public reached
Your army have killed lakhs here we never hurt even one indian tourist here
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A Pakistani citizen must have goaded this poor Indian.
It's not his fault obviously.perhaps the Pakistan army was involved.
It's not his fault obviously.perhaps the Pakistan army was involved.
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https://greaterkashmir.com/news/kas...an-a-small-grocery-to-make-living/313603.html
Pulwama slain civilian ran a small grocery to make living
A continuous rat-a-tat on the door of Mushtaq Ahamd Bhat and his neighbour Abdul Ghani woke them up on frosty Sunday night in Pinglena village of south Kashmir’s Pulwama district. As they answered the knock, army men entered their houses separated by a boundary wall of corrugated tin sheets, and searched thoroughly.
Soon they asked both Bhat and Ghani to guide them around the neighbourhood.
“He (Bhat) was taken from one side and I from the other. And as he along with army men entered a dirt lane, numerous gun shots rang out,” said Ghani.
The army men took Ghani back to his home. The bullets were continuously raining down and the whole village was dotted by forces.
A little later, much to the shock of Ghani, the soldiers, according to him, brought the lifeless blood soaked body of Bhat inside his (Ghani’s) house.
“I was left stunned. They put the body in a room and locked me and my family inside another room,” he said.
The gun fight between the forces and the militants ended after 17 hours with the killing of three militants, four soldiers and an SOG personnel. At least ten security men including Deputy Inspector General south range, an army brigadier and a Lt Colonel also suffered injuries.
In the morning, the forces allowed Ghani and his family to move to another house in the neighbourhood.
“Thereafter, I do not know what happened,” said Ghani in a rather feeble voice.
A family member of Bhat, who did not wish to be named, alleged that he (Bhat) “was killed in cold blood as the forces used him as human shield.”
He also said that the body of Bhat was handed over to them late Monday evening. “They had taken the body to Police Control Room, Srinagar and kept us waiting for hours together,” the family member said.
District police chief Chandan Kohli did not respond to the calls of this reporter.
Bhat, a father of two daughters ran a small grocery in the locality to make a living. “In just a jiffy, their life turned upside down,” said one of the wailing relatives of Bhat.
Amid shrieks and sobs, Bhat was consigned to grave on Tuesday morning in his ancestral grave yard.
Pulwama slain civilian ran a small grocery to make living
A continuous rat-a-tat on the door of Mushtaq Ahamd Bhat and his neighbour Abdul Ghani woke them up on frosty Sunday night in Pinglena village of south Kashmir’s Pulwama district. As they answered the knock, army men entered their houses separated by a boundary wall of corrugated tin sheets, and searched thoroughly.
Soon they asked both Bhat and Ghani to guide them around the neighbourhood.
“He (Bhat) was taken from one side and I from the other. And as he along with army men entered a dirt lane, numerous gun shots rang out,” said Ghani.
The army men took Ghani back to his home. The bullets were continuously raining down and the whole village was dotted by forces.
A little later, much to the shock of Ghani, the soldiers, according to him, brought the lifeless blood soaked body of Bhat inside his (Ghani’s) house.
“I was left stunned. They put the body in a room and locked me and my family inside another room,” he said.
The gun fight between the forces and the militants ended after 17 hours with the killing of three militants, four soldiers and an SOG personnel. At least ten security men including Deputy Inspector General south range, an army brigadier and a Lt Colonel also suffered injuries.
In the morning, the forces allowed Ghani and his family to move to another house in the neighbourhood.
“Thereafter, I do not know what happened,” said Ghani in a rather feeble voice.
A family member of Bhat, who did not wish to be named, alleged that he (Bhat) “was killed in cold blood as the forces used him as human shield.”
He also said that the body of Bhat was handed over to them late Monday evening. “They had taken the body to Police Control Room, Srinagar and kept us waiting for hours together,” the family member said.
District police chief Chandan Kohli did not respond to the calls of this reporter.
Bhat, a father of two daughters ran a small grocery in the locality to make a living. “In just a jiffy, their life turned upside down,” said one of the wailing relatives of Bhat.
Amid shrieks and sobs, Bhat was consigned to grave on Tuesday morning in his ancestral grave yard.
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Omar Abdullah will need to wait till eternity for that to happen.
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Kashmiri Students Attacked in Maharashtra, Video of Incident Goes Viral
https://www.news18.com/news/india/k...tra-video-of-incident-goes-viral-2044129.html
Nationalist Goons at their best.
https://www.news18.com/news/india/k...tra-video-of-incident-goes-viral-2044129.html
Nationalist Goons at their best.
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This is real India. Pathetic country.
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Pathetic.
Again, Thank you, Mr. Jinnah!
Again, Thank you, Mr. Jinnah!
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Great treatment of Kashmiris in India.
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Great treatment of Kashmiris in India.
Nobody anywhere in the world should be bullied. As it is ten people attacking one person (as it seems in this video), it is shameful. Having said that, the death of men who leave behind widows and children is bound to inflame passions.
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Regret it.
I am shocked to see how many hindus today openly ask for Kashmiri muslims genocide in India.
It is quite crazy but i am very glad that we are only just beating some people up so far and have not turned our bedroom and workplace thoughts to action.
Many years ago, if you talked about genocide of Kashmiris at workplace or during family friends meetings etc, you'd be looked at with utter disbelief in eyes, nowadays no one blinks an eye and most people even support such psychopathic ideas.
Muslims in India today are alone and suffer humiliation on daily basis by hindu nationalists.
It is sad state of affairs.
I hang my head in shame simply. These mad people have nothing in common with me.
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You should be ashamed of yourself. There always has to be "having said that" in the end. A lot of Indians are a disgrace to humanity and no better than animals.
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Any Indian who comes to this thread and still has the guts to defend this, i salute your shamelessness and complete lack of humanity in advance.
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Disgusting , I smell some justification in your post.
Good post. I think Indians brought it upon themselves by voting for an extremist like Modi under whose rule we have seen the emergence of Hindutva goons .
If Modi gets another term in 2019 elections then it could be disastrous for India in the long run.
If I say something is shameful, then I mean it is something I cannot support, something I want not to happen, and something that if I were in the vicinity I would try to stop from happening.
When I wrote "having said that", it was an analysis of why people act in shameful ways, the reasons why they are led to act in ways that are shameful, and in ways they should not. Extreme provocation can lead to otherwise decent people to act in ways they should not. The fact that they are otherwise decent does not give them license to act in a shameful manner.
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Also, If you cannot stand up for the victim and speak against injustice in front of your family, relatives, friends, workplace collegues, seniors, social media friends and even strangers, then all this formality of i condemn this and that on a foreign website means nothing.
Like [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] rightly pointed out above, when you put any sense of reasoning into the actions of the criminals, you are 100% part of the problem and on the side of the criminals.
Battles are fought at the bottle. That's the place to fight.
I respect armed forces who fight for the honour of their country at the border against the right opponent.
If you use public anger to pick on artists, civilians, common man on the street, you are the biggest trash on this planet and people like you all need to be terminated and should have no right to have off springs.
No matter our issues may be with Pakistan or Kashmiri militia, there is absolutely no justification to beating/harrassing common Kashmiri folks across India. You people have destroyed the image of my country and i am sick and tired of you all.
If i see you i will destroy you. And i am proud to say i belong to belong to a family which has done exactly that in all our generations. Be it 1947, be it the troublesome times of the 1980s/90s when there was khalistan issue in Punjab/Delhi, we have confronted the mob and kicked their bottoms back to their holes in standing tall with our dear ones. I and my coming generations will hopefully continue this legacy.
Like [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] rightly pointed out above, when you put any sense of reasoning into the actions of the criminals, you are 100% part of the problem and on the side of the criminals.
Battles are fought at the bottle. That's the place to fight.
I respect armed forces who fight for the honour of their country at the border against the right opponent.
If you use public anger to pick on artists, civilians, common man on the street, you are the biggest trash on this planet and people like you all need to be terminated and should have no right to have off springs.
No matter our issues may be with Pakistan or Kashmiri militia, there is absolutely no justification to beating/harrassing common Kashmiri folks across India. You people have destroyed the image of my country and i am sick and tired of you all.
If i see you i will destroy you. And i am proud to say i belong to belong to a family which has done exactly that in all our generations. Be it 1947, be it the troublesome times of the 1980s/90s when there was khalistan issue in Punjab/Delhi, we have confronted the mob and kicked their bottoms back to their holes in standing tall with our dear ones. I and my coming generations will hopefully continue this legacy.
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I remain hopeful that we will eventually have the last laugh and get rid of this trash in India.
The positive side of mine just thinks that destiny wishes things go so bad for India that this little period in our history becomes an example forever to the coming generations, that this is how low we went as a country under these people. Never let it happen. I remain hopeful.
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This is an eye-opener for those who often wonder whether partition of India and creation of Pakistan was a bad move.
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As proven by the state of muslims in India today, it was a horrible move.
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Put them in jail, video is proof..of the same.
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Why have you tagged me here?
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This is absolutely disgraceful and condemnable.
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wah ji, aisai "passion" ko salam
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This is so sad. Can't imagine being in the shoes of that guy. GOI has video evidence of these idiots. They should arrest them and stop this nonsense. Instant gratification of a false revenge on innocents is the trait of the uncivilized bottom of the barrel. I wish there is a video of a Kashmiri guy and another Indian debating the issues and posting online. A country is the sum of the people and the utter disregard for laws is troubling.
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Indians should open their eyes and see how extreme hindu government and media is destroying their own people
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This will be classified as hate crime here in the US. I hope the perps are caught and punished.
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This is pathetic, its real sad to see things like this happening anywhere and that includes Kashmir. I cant recall the poster's name however he is no longer posting in PP, he was from Indian Kashmir and he addressed me in a post once with the following words: 'If you ever come to Kashmir, make sure you come with fear as we will eat you alive if your army is not around'... I guess the circle just keeps going around and around...
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I've met, interacted and known diverse types of Kashmiris.
A Kashmiri girl who openly supported Pak (2007 WC Final) knowing full well that the rest of us were too 'cosmopolitan' to get triggered outwardly.
Another during a modeling/personality contest was like, I wanna destroy India when asked what his ambitions were. This was during the prelims and we all laughed and even cheered for him cuz we took it in spirit. He made it to the final. In the finals, he again said some stuff like this but was booted out for not knowing when a joke had run its course.
On the other side, I've known decent hardworking Kashmiris running handicrafts shops in temple towns just trying to make a honest living for people back home.
This video makes me sad because I'm assuming this guy is just a regular guy trying to make his way through life and the impact this incident is gonna have on his outlook. You have probably fundamentally changed the way a person now looks at life and things.
A Kashmiri girl who openly supported Pak (2007 WC Final) knowing full well that the rest of us were too 'cosmopolitan' to get triggered outwardly.
Another during a modeling/personality contest was like, I wanna destroy India when asked what his ambitions were. This was during the prelims and we all laughed and even cheered for him cuz we took it in spirit. He made it to the final. In the finals, he again said some stuff like this but was booted out for not knowing when a joke had run its course.
On the other side, I've known decent hardworking Kashmiris running handicrafts shops in temple towns just trying to make a honest living for people back home.
This video makes me sad because I'm assuming this guy is just a regular guy trying to make his way through life and the impact this incident is gonna have on his outlook. You have probably fundamentally changed the way a person now looks at life and things.
Oh how beautiful to know loss of life inflames passions in India. Did you for a second think about 350 Kashmiris who were killed last year along with thousands who were tortured/raped/injured/blinded may have inflamed some passion in Kashmiris as well? Of course all those stone pelting kids who risk their lives are all terrorists for you guys but to them their fight is against injustice and occupation.
You can blame Pakistan all you want but i can guarantee you this trouble in Kashmir wont end anytime soon with this sort of attitude.
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The above is something you should agree to, if you are a reasonable person. And don't invoke "having said that" type of reasoning, only when it suits you.
Sure, I thought about the Kashmiris killed. I also thought about the 500,000 killed in Iraq and Syria the last 5 years. I thought about the 20,000 killed in Ukraine, and the many thousands killed in Libya. I also thought about the thousands killed in India in other conflicts.
Every life is of equal value, whether it be Kashmiri or someone else. However, that does not mean that India should let Kashmir go. The integrity of a country is also of value, just like human lives are valuable. India is not going to break up, and the sooner people realize this fact from the real world, the sooner the killing can stop. The Indian government and the will of the Indian people to maintain the integrity of the country is too strong to be overcome. The country breaking up is a leap into a dark unknown and the Indians reject this idea.
The Kashmiris can choose to stop the violence, and live like other Indians live with full democratic rights. The state has fantastic resources, they will prosper.
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How will that happen when the head of state, who never misses an opportunity to tweet on every single obscure thing, stays mum for so many days? Just like he did during murders of innocents by so-called gau rakshaks?
Indeed, every mother and every father love her son equally, whether it is a Kashmiri or an Indian soldier. I agree that Kashmiris have reason to be angry.
The solution is that they live like other Indians do, with full democratic rights. They are not something special that they can leave the country just because they want to. They may think that they are different from other Indians, but other Indians like Nagas, Marathis, Tamils, Punjabis etc. are also different from each other. Just because they are different doesn't give them the right to leave the country. If they did not have the same democratic rights like other Indians, then they would have a case. Just saying "I don't care if I can vote, I don't want to be part of the country" is unacceptable.
"No taxation without representation" was a reasonable demand of the Americans. The Kashmiris however have representation, case closed.
I agree with this. India is not going to break up, it is too resilient for that to happen. But when someone like Tathagat Roy (governor of a state, no less) sprouts rubbish about Kashmiris, then he should've been packed out of Raj bhawan. But as they say, andher nagri, chaupat raja.
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The situation so worst that presently I am studying higher studies in Haryana state and I am afraid to go outside my room since the blast took place. I am unable to attend any classes and go to market bcz of the fear that I might get thrashed. Better to leave my studies and go home.
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It is not happening.Pathetic cowards.
Hope they get jailed for a good amount of time.
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Kashmiris live under the weight of 3/4ths of India's army of 1M living in their homeland and committing genocide. Their situation is nothing like any other Indian's.
I know what comes next. Debate and dispute on how and why the army is there. It will require courage and honesty to acknowledge the reality of the situation in Kashmir.
Yes, he's breading a dangerous culture where our own people are turning against eachother. At this rate, we don't need Pakistan to divide India.
This is a powerful statement. It's going to take a long time for him to come out of this, if ever and this is happening in his own country.
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Man, so sorry to hear this. As an outsider from far far away, I want to say please do not quit your studies as it is your path to a better life. But I get that ground realities can be different. Perhaps just stay low until situation improves?
I personally saw many Kashmiris in South India during my time there. You should consider going there for your studies since South has been more isolated from Pakistan focused rivalries and you can focus on your education and career instead of fearing for life.
Mustang is right, education is important. In Tamil Nadu they don't care, and in Kerala there is a fairly large population of Muslims so you will be okay. I am from Bengal and I believe you will be safe there too. There are many other states where you will be okay, if you do a bit of research you will be able to find out.
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When he uses terms like "people's blood is boiling', it is a tacit go-ahead to his followers to do what they please. Shameful man occupying such an important position.
Not so sure about this anymore. The poison has spread. I can understand getting angry if a Kashmiri makes an insensitive statement about other Indians' deaths while he is in a non-Kashmir state. But people who are trying to lie low are having a hard time it seems in the South too. Have a look at this
https://www.deccanherald.com/city/life-bengaluru/being-kashmiri-bengaluru-719016.html
Yeah. Diplomacy has never been his forte. Funnily enough, he still carries on with great gusto all those foreign jaunts in the garb of official work.
No wonder all these loonies have got free hand to take law in their hands.
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Please be safe bro. I saw a video from Haryana where a few guys attacked 2 Kashmiri boys. Either come back to Kashmir or try to stay in your campus for maximum time of the day. Your safety is most important.
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Sure.
http://jknn.net/mob-accosts-beats-up-kashmir-shawl-trader-in-west-bengal/
Another
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...o-leave-city-gets-security-1459386-2019-02-19
And many others, can't bother to mention numerous other cases.
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Well... we sometimes boast about the literacy growth rate but incidents like these prove a lack of morality among a section of the society.
It is not a pattern. The ruling party Trinamool is quite pro-Muslim.
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I have already taken admission and I am in second year and now choosing another state would mean a year loss for me and also loss of money. I will wait some days and watch how the situation goes if it remain like this it will be better to go home instead of living in this hysteria.
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Yes bro I am staying inside the campus and not going outside at all. If situation remains like this I will come back home.
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...5350&id=801421886564099&anchor_composer=false
And this is what we have face in Kashmir from the Indian army we are not safe even in Kashmir.
And this is what we have face in Kashmir from the Indian army we are not safe even in Kashmir.
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Good luck to you and I hope you finish your degree, wherever that may be from. Loss of a year and loss of money is hard, but it is much worse to go through life with educational degrees, so I hope you finish your degree.
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This video has been doing the rounds on social media, and I finally got around to watching it. I had two observations:
First, in spite of being outnumbered in a hostile land and being beaten up by a mob, the young man resists when made to chant the slogans at the end. Even in the dire straits he finds himself in, that is a bridge too far. There’s a palpable pause before he eventually complies (and who wouldn’t comply in those circumstances), but he does so incredibly reluctantly.
Second, the leader of the mob acknowledges that 90 percent of Kashmiris support Pakistan. Perhaps the impotent rage stems from this gut wrenching realization?
First, in spite of being outnumbered in a hostile land and being beaten up by a mob, the young man resists when made to chant the slogans at the end. Even in the dire straits he finds himself in, that is a bridge too far. There’s a palpable pause before he eventually complies (and who wouldn’t comply in those circumstances), but he does so incredibly reluctantly.
Second, the leader of the mob acknowledges that 90 percent of Kashmiris support Pakistan. Perhaps the impotent rage stems from this gut wrenching realization?
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So this is not terrorism? What the indian army is doing in kashmir is 20 times worse than this. And then they say "kashmir is an integral part of india"
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And then we wonder why Kashmiris hate us.
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This is pathetic. Some evil people from Kashmir and Pakistan did this. But ordinary people from those places had nothing to do with the terror attack. This is the legacy of Modi's government, BJP has perfected the art of mob lynchings and this has become second nature to many Indians. Total law and order collapse. Others must take lessons from South Indian states (especially Kerala, Tamil Nadu) and Bengal's Mamata, there will be troublemakers everywhere but police has to step up and ensure law and order. Leaders need to take strong stance and assure all civilians of safety. This is election season, there will be many party workers who would want to ignite passions for electoral dividends, people need to be extra careful.
https://youtu.be/xjsK4IhyU04 How many times the person has to prove his loyalty, looks like Muslims are scared so much. I personally India to be better than this but I am disappointed.
I thought your country is better than our but competition is tough for being worst I reckon. I am disappointed from what I have observed,not
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but Literacy and Morality have no connection
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Poor guy had to recall his loyality multiple times before saying anything. Sad state of affairs
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You’re not wrong.
Truth is India has become really intolerant since Modi came into power. And Indiaans have become highly anti-islam/muslims, obnoxious, intolerant, islamophobs, and I’ve seen in most youtube, fb trollings they disrespecting Islam, Allah, Muhammad pbuh, always mostly bring religion into it. Obviously then muslims troll back, not saying the muslims are angels but I’ve seen them start the religion disrespect first. Seems like they take pride in disrespecting Islam and muslims online!
Bhakths have.
Let’s use the correct nomenclature to separate the Bhakths from rest of the Indians
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Romali_rotti
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It is bad that you have to go through all these troubles, it is quite sad really. No one deserves this. I think it is best you stay out of main land India for your own safety. Lets be honest; you don't like main land India and main land Indians don't like the fact you don't like mother India, your posts on PP have shown clear indication you don't like main land India, so it is best you find another country to do your studies in, after all why study in a land that you despise ? so it will benefit your safety and future..
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You reap what you sow, India. Do not expect the rest of the world to #PrayForIndia, when this sort of behaviour is being applauded by many in your country. Were these thugs sponsered by Pakistan too? How about you get your house in order before worrying about your neighbors?
As a sidenote, why are these Indian nationalists always so cowardly? Ten against one? Really? They know they would have been owned if they played fair.
As a sidenote, why are these Indian nationalists always so cowardly? Ten against one? Really? They know they would have been owned if they played fair.
Bilal7
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I agree, him and the rest of his people should should leave and take occupied-Kashmir with him.
Braveheart
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Modi's Fascist Animals !
India is infested with them.
India is infested with them.
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Rana
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Heartbreaking video. I hope these guys are caught by the police.
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How about you guys leave our land as we also don't like presence of army everwhere there?
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