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So not sure if anything can be gleaned from what he has done or not done with the Pakistan bowlers but the beating they got against India would not have pleased him.

Will we see anything concrete come out of his presence for the Pakistan pacers?
 
I don't think any of the bowling coaches in recent past have done a great job with our national team. It is not a great achievement for the national coach if Shaheen Afridi takes a couple of wickets in his first spell or Haris Rauf bowls good yorkers at the death. The coaches much make considerable improvement in the performance of the bowlers like Faheem Ashraf and Mohammad Wasim Jr. or any other young bowler that gets the chance to be with the national team.
 
What are his acheivements as a bowler? I dont know why PCB selected him as a bowling coach when they already have Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis.
 
"The last couple of games, that is one of our talking points, to string partnerships together. I think in India that is the key, create pressure from both ends, keep the stumps in play, and at the moment, we're not doing that.

"We are not consistent with the ball. If you are going to lift that trophy on the 19th then we need to create consistency from both the ends," said Morkel after the match.

The former South African pacer said the team missed the presence of injured pacer Naseem Shah and his new ball alliance with Afridi in this tournament.

"Naseem is a quality bowler if you look at his stats, the consistency he gave us with the new ball upfront was amazing. The partnership he formed with Shaheen was… this we always talked about bowling partnerships. Naseem is a big loss," he said.

However, Morkel said Rauf and Ali were trying to learn and adjust to the demands of bowling in powerplays in ODIs, a role the pacers are not accustomed to.

"It's slightly new role for Hasan Ali and Haris Rauf bowling with the new ball in powerplays. These guys used to bowl sort of outside the powerplay. But I think, with the opportunity we've given them they are standing up to the occasion.

"It is quite tough with a new ball in India. The margins are small. So, they are learning and trying their heart out," he said.

Morkel said the way forward for Rauf in ODIs was to increase his situational awareness and adding new tricks to his repertoire.

"He is still one of the go-to guys, one of the X-factors. He can look at gaming awareness and may be mixing your pace a little bit more. But he's a guy who always gives 100%. I can't fault him for anything," he added.

However, Morkel saw one bright omen in the re-emergence of left-arm pacer Afridi during the match against the Aussies.

"We had honest conversations. We sort of unpacked the opening spells of the World Cup so far, and looked at areas where we can look to attack and be smart. Perhaps, he was trying too hard. Tonight, he ran in and hit those hard lines, changed his game strategy and mixed his pace up.

"He put up a performance like that on a tough bowling day against a team that is very aggressive, and it is a pleasing thing for me," said Morkel.

Source: NDTV
 
Feeling sad for him. He must be going the best but with these conditions and brainless approach of our bowlers, what can he do? Stay strong mate.
 
Another “coach” who is subjected to no accountability because of the color of his skin.
 
Feeling sad for him. He must be going the best but with these conditions and brainless approach of our bowlers, what can he do? Stay strong mate.
Coaches make little to no impact at the top level but they have to live and die by the results.

The players’ success is their success and the players’ failure is their failure.

Morkel must be held accountable for how dreadful and indisciplined Pakistan’s fast bowling has been.
 
Coaches make little to no impact at the top level but they have to live and die by the results.

The players’ success is their success and the players’ failure is their failure.

Morkel must be held accountable for how dreadful and indisciplined Pakistan’s fast bowling has been.
You remembered my arguments with people on here because that 1st line rings a very loud bell. No coach can teach intelligence and some of the bowling has been dumb. If SSA can't see that right handers are standing on leg stump, waiting for the full ball, then there isn't much hope.
 
You remembered my arguments with people on here because that 1st line rings a very loud bell. No coach can teach intelligence and some of the bowling has been dumb. If SSA can't see that right handers are standing on leg stump, waiting for the full ball, then there isn't much hope.
That’s correct but there has to be a system of accountability. Otherwise you will have the same coach keeping his job forever because he is not responsible for the elementary errors.

It is a thankless job but it cannot be an accountability-free job either. Also I don’t think he has ever spoken to the media either. He needs to take responsibility and make his presence felt.

His body language, much like Tait in the last few months of his tenure, tell me that he can’t wait for his contract to end so that he can get out.
 
That’s correct but there has to be a system of accountability. Otherwise you will have the same coach keeping his job forever because he is not responsible for the elementary errors.

It is a thankless job but it cannot be an accountability-free job either. Also I don’t think he has ever spoken to the media either. He needs to take responsibility and make his presence felt.

His body language, much like Tait in the last few months of his tenure, tell me that he can’t wait for his contract to end so that he can get out.
More and more support staff is the current trend, its a trend that started in the late 90s and has continued to this day. Good bowlers figure it out, and actually by figuring out gives them resilience in tough situations when they are under the cosh. Morne or anyone else will make no difference. The gap between domestic cricket and international cricket is big in all countries but ours is the size of the Atlantic ocean. We then pick players who have played against other dreadful players and it takes them years to adjust, by the time they have adjusted mentally,they get injury or are just too old.
Usama Mir was playing Sunday parks league in Bham, and got smashed around by a taxi driver.
 
Never trusted Morne, even as a player he did not had the nerve to ride the tide though he was a world class bowler
 
Should be booted out ASAP! never seen a more useless appointment in PCB than this Saffer
 
The main culprit is najam sethi who hired part time skype coach mickey and then he hired rest of the coaching staff. All should be booted out along with 4-5 players after the world cup asap
 
The main culprit is najam sethi who hired part time skype coach mickey and then he hired rest of the coaching staff. All should be booted out along with 4-5 players after the world cup asap
The whole Mickey Arthur as a part time coach still makes absolutely zero sense to me. Grant Bradburn can be a fine head coach but right now there's too many cooks in the kitchen.

Also, Morkel should clearly be fired. For someone who was such a good bowler with incredible ball control, it is really disappointing that under his tutelage we have been bowling so undisciplined and in such an ineffective manner for Indian pitches. Shaun Tait was an extremely undisciplined bowler who used to spray it on many occasions, but under him it seems that our bowling was much better prepared.
 
The whole Mickey Arthur as a part time coach still makes absolutely zero sense to me. Grant Bradburn can be a fine head coach but right now there's too many cooks in the kitchen.

Also, Morkel should clearly be fired. For someone who was such a good bowler with incredible ball control, it is really disappointing that under his tutelage we have been bowling so undisciplined and in such an ineffective manner for Indian pitches. Shaun Tait was an extremely undisciplined bowler who used to spray it on many occasions, but under him it seems that our bowling was much better prepared.
i dont rate any of the coaches we have at the moment. Saqlain mushtaq and his coaching staff did a better job than these jokers and got paid 100 times less than these craps. We neeed a high IQ strict no crap talking coach like ravi shastri, jonathan trott doing a class job or etc
 
Sorry but i have had enough of these SAffers in the dressing room. Hire some indians please, look at the hunger they bring to their teams.
 
Gul was doing a good job as bowling coach before Morne took over and since then the bowlers have gone backwards.
 
Gul was doing a good job as bowling coach before Morne took over and since then the bowlers have gone backwards.
Yes, I don't think Morne has made any great improvement with our bowlers. It is likely that we see him get replaced after the World Cup.
 
There are No more bowlers for Test and OD. No need of bowling coach anymore , whoever wants to come and throw the ball let them do themselves. No need to have coach any more
 
Morne Morkel wanted the PCB to appoint a spin bowling coach for this WC, his request was denied.
 
What has Morkel done for Pakistan fast-bowling? How else can we measure his utility other than how Pakistan have bowled?
 
Pakistan team must always have a spin bowling coach as well. All the spinners have been terrible in this World Cup.
 
Morne Morkel resigns as Pakistan bowling coach

Lahore, 13 November 2023: Morne Morkel has resigned as the bowling coach of the Pakistan Men’s team. The former South Africa fast bowler joined the Pakistan team on a six-month contract in June this year. Morkel’s first assignment with the men’s team was their tour to Sri Lanka for the two-match Test series.

Pakistan Cricket Board will announce his replacement in due course. Pakistan's next assignment is a three-match Test series against Australia scheduled to take place from December 14, 2023, to January 7, 2024, in Australia.

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So Morne Morkel's tenure as a Pakistani coach comes to an end today. As far as I think of his tenure, I cannot say that he succeeded in making any impact. No mentionable performances have come under his tenure. Failed attempt in my opinion.​
 
he knew he was going to be criticised.

iss se pehly tum muje nikaalo mein khud nikal jaun gha (Before you kick me out, I will leave on my own) lolll
 
Morne Morkel resigns as Pakistan bowling coach

Lahore, 13 November 2023: Morne Morkel has resigned as the bowling coach of the Pakistan Men’s team. The former South Africa fast bowler joined the Pakistan team on a six-month contract in June this year. Morkel’s first assignment with the men’s team was their tour to Sri Lanka for the two-match Test series.

Pakistan Cricket Board will announce his replacement in due course. Pakistan's next assignment is a three-match Test series against Australia scheduled to take place from December 14, 2023, to January 7, 2024, in Australia.

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So Morne Morkel's tenure as a Pakistani coach comes to an end today. As far as I think of his tenure, I cannot say that he succeeded in making any impact. No mentionable performances have come under his tenure. Failed attempt in my opinion.​
What do you expect with a board like the PCB and a captain like Babar. Impossible to achieve anything.

Bet he can't wait to get the hell out of this freak show. The others soon to follow.
 
I don’t recall him making a single press conference or giving a single interview.

His body language throughout the World Cup clearly showed that he couldn’t wait for the World Cup to be over so that he can leave.

Another “coach” who landed the job because of his skin color.
 
Made the right desicion, our bowling was the most abject it has ever been in a WC. Really disappointing for a nation that has always prided itself on its fast bowlers.
Wonder if we can get guldozer back
 
What do you expect with a board like the PCB and a captain like Babar. Impossible to achieve anything.

Bet he can't wait to get the hell out of this freak show. The others soon to follow.
He himself failed with flying colors in his own capacity. He is responsible for the performance of Pakistani fast bowlers and they were awful.

A coach will make very little difference at the top level but their success and failure will also be measured by the performance of the players irrespective of their contribution either way.

Based on that, he deserves 0/10 rating for his tenure as bowling coach.
 
Made the right desicion, our bowling was the most abject it has ever been in a WC. Really disappointing for a nation that has always prided itself on its fast bowlers.
Wonder if we can get guldozer back
Umar Gul is likely to replace him for the Australian tour.

Umar Gul who averaged 52 in Australia in 2 Test matches will now teach our fast bowlers how to bowl in Australia.
 
Umar Gul is likely to replace him for the Australian tour.

Umar Gul who averaged 52 in Australia in 2 Test matches will now teach our fast bowlers how to bowl in Australia.
Well tbh we have struggled there for decades, I don't think he can make an immediate impact and judging him on a known nightmare tour would be unfair.
Our run in to next year's t20 wc would be a fairer assessment.
 
Well tbh we have struggled there for decades, I don't think he can make an immediate impact and judging him on a known nightmare tour would be unfair.
Our run in to next year's t20 wc would be a fairer assessment.
For the Australian Test series, I would rope in or at least try to rope in a fast bowler (whatever the nationality) who has actually performed well in Australia.

The key in Australia is the length. If you don’t get that right you will be punished on wickets where there is little margin for error.

Gul can teach nothing to Pakistani pacers when it comes to bowling in Australia. This is where PCB’s lack of awareness is exposed. They have no clue how many Tests Gul has played in Australia and what was his record like.
 
For the Australian Test series, I would rope in or at least try to rope in a fast bowler (whatever the nationality) who has actually performed well in Australia.

The key in Australia is the length. If you don’t get that right you will be punished on wickets where there is little margin for error.

Gul can teach nothing to Pakistani pacers when it comes to bowling in Australia. This is where PCB’s lack of awareness is exposed. They have no clue how many Tests Gul has played in Australia and what was his record like.
True, there are probably better coaches out there as far as the Australia challenge is concerned.
Trouble is that time is tight before the first test, so they will probably go with someone homegrown who can be put into the role easier and quicker.
 
I think we need a bowling coach that has qualifications and isn't necessarily relying on his reputation as an ex player.

Someone like Bharut Arun ( wont happen) Otis Gibson or Ian Pont.
Agreed, or someone who was not a natural fast bowler.

Philander was good in this regards, that he had to setup batsman and use his brain.

For the Australian series, they need to employ a local Australian mentor for the 3 matches. Something is better than nothing. Oh and an australian spin coach also please
 
Waqar was unable to improve ishant saying ishant was adamant and not listening. But after a count stint with Gillepsie,Ishant Improved leaps and bounds.Better to get Gillespie, Walsh or ambrose for the aus tour atleast.
 
He was a pretty average bowler himself, not sure I would have him as a bowling coach for a international team.
 
I think we need a bowling coach that has qualifications and isn't necessarily relying on his reputation as an ex player.

Someone like Bharut Arun ( wont happen) Otis Gibson or Ian Pont.
100%

This is the problem with PCB's appointments, whether it be bowling coaches such as Morne Morkel and Shaun Tait or Matthew Hayden as "consultant/mentor". All appointed on reputation as opposed to coaching merits.

I just wish PCB could grasp this one thing, the most reputable ex-players don't always make good coaches. If anything, they usually flop because the skillsets are different. Batting or bowling is a technical skill whereas coaching is more analytical.
 
He was a pretty average bowler himself, not sure I would have him as a bowling coach for a international team.
He had very good bowling career i don't know whether it's right to criticize him on basis of six months.
 
He resigned because he didn’t want to come to Pakistan and answer questions
You have said it correctly. He just doesn't want to face the media and talk about his failed strategy for our bowling department throughout his tenure. I didn't see any serious intent or response from his end. I think he was just here to make money. But yes, he was better than Waqar Younis as a bowling coach.
 
You have said it correctly. He just doesn't want to face the media and talk about his failed strategy for our bowling department throughout his tenure. I didn't see any serious intent or response from his end. I think he was just here to make money. But yes, he was better than Waqar Younis as a bowling coach.
What I also meant to say was that he doesn’t want to even enter Pakistan

Is there any proof that Morkel throughout his tenure once stepped foot in Pakistan? He is the national bowling coach
 
I don’t recall him making a single press conference or giving a single interview.

His body language throughout the World Cup clearly showed that he couldn’t wait for the World Cup to be over so that he can leave.

Another “coach” who landed the job because of his skin color.
A teach can do so much. If the student is dull it's not teacher's fault.
 
He was a pretty average bowler himself, not sure I would have him as a bowling coach for a international team.

He was one of the best in test cricket. What are you talking about ?
 
One of the worst bowling coaches we’ve ever had. At least Waqar actually cared.

His appointment is yet another mishap in the comedy show that is the PCB.

Whoever the next coach is, he needs to stay in place for a couple of years because chopping and changing is pointless for this role. They need time.
 
I think we need a bowling coach that has qualifications and isn't necessarily relying on his reputation as an ex player.

Someone like Bharut Arun ( wont happen) Otis Gibson or Ian Pont.
Technical coaches are great for developing players but when you’ve already got the cream of the crop in front of you there isn’t much you can do bar a tweak here and there which other coaches can also do.

That’s why guys like Pont don’t get the top level roles in coaching. There’s nothing for them to do with their speciality and they haven’t got the experience to guide the fast bowlers on difficult tours. That’s why guys like Tait and Umar Gul are perceived to have an edge.
 
Pakistan needs to either find ex-player coaches or if they're hellbent on foreign coaches, those who actually smile and look like they're having a good time with the players. Can't remember any of these guys looking like they enjoy their time with the boys. All just sit there with glum faces or Mickey performs for the camera while his fellow skin-colored commentators go, "Now now Mickey". Hayden is the exception. But I really don't know how fit he is as a coach or as anything other than a budget motivational speaker.
 
Is it his fault that our pacers our mediocre-at-best t20 hacks who have no brains?

It is the bowlers who should be resigning. This is the worst WC bowling unit I have ever seen.

I cannot believe there isn't a single decent spinner and apart from Shaheen, the pacers are absolutely medicore. Rauf should never play ODI cricket again.
 
Most of the South African cricketers themselves were not passionate to play for their country during their playing days; don't expect anything from coaching.
 
Umar Gul is likely to replace him for the Australian tour.

Umar Gul who averaged 52 in Australia in 2 Test matches will now teach our fast bowlers how to bowl in Australia.
That is hilarious. Umar Gul was a good t20 bowler at best. Got carted around other formats. Our who team is in limbo no desire to train hard
 
What about other coaches Bradburn mickey Arthur? When are they resigning when the contracts will be over I though it will be before Australia tour.
 
Technical coaches are great for developing players but when you’ve already got the cream of the crop in front of you there isn’t much you can do bar a tweak here and there which other coaches can also do.

That’s why guys like Pont don’t get the top level roles in coaching. There’s nothing for them to do with their speciality and they haven’t got the experience to guide the fast bowlers on difficult tours. That’s why guys like Tait and Umar Gul are perceived to have an edge.
I used to think similarly but often our bowling completey and utterly capitulated, particularly in big tournaments and away tours. You must also remember that they are relatively young and inexperienced. It would be different if we had a seasoned attack in their 30s with many years and miles under their belt.

I think they need constant strategic help and technical help. We need Planning for different players and different situations with consistent monitoring and feedback. Most of our attack have been fast tracked through the system - you are right in a sense that they may be the cream of the crop for Pakistan BUT I feel that they are way way behind their counterparts from other countries. We seem to just have accepted for example that if the ball aint swinging then Shaheen aint getting wickets with the new ball or that Haris and Wasim Jr cant bowl with the new ball. Surely these are things that can be worked on?

Ideally they need someone to work with them year round and not for short stints. Most of the top teams have qualified coaches ( even if they are ex pros they have their badges). Indias current coach and their previous coach have not got the most glittering careers but they transformed a bunch of net bowlers into world beaters in Australia and are running through sides for fun in this current WC.
 
As per sources close to Morne Morkel:

He was only contracted until 1st January and his commitments with his franchise Lucknow Super Giants in both the IPL and SAT20 were too big..

He loved his job and would have loved to stay and it's a pity that people fabricating stories about his departure.

Pakistan always knew that after the World Cup they would see if he could manage the Australia tour but his other commitments did not allow him the time.
 
At least Morkel resigned; and the positive interpretation of that is that he is owning up to his responsibility.

If he hadn’t resigned, people would have said he has no shame, he wants to continue the gig, etc.
 
….. We then pick players who have played against other dreadful players and it takes them years to adjust, by the time they have adjusted mentally,they get injury or are just too old…..

The powers that be in Pakistan should frame this on their wall.

Years ago I had written something similar about why some teams (Pakistan and West Indies) were in decline. This was it.

It is a rule of thumb- whether in academics or sport or any other part of life. You become the company you keep, or are forced to keep.

This is the precise challenge before the PCB. And no coach in the world is going to make a difference until you address it.
 
For the Australian Test series, I would rope in or at least try to rope in a fast bowler (whatever the nationality) who has actually performed well in Australia.

The key in Australia is the length. If you don’t get that right you will be punished on wickets where there is little margin for error.

Gul can teach nothing to Pakistani pacers when it comes to bowling in Australia. This is where PCB’s lack of awareness is exposed. They have no clue how many Tests Gul has played in Australia and what was his record like.

The key to success in Australia is to follow Bharat Arun's tactics i.e a packed leg side field and a ruthless off, middle stump line of attack by the pacers, no cuts, no pulls and the aim is to ruthlessly stick to this line, length for a good 30-40 overs plus, restricting the run rate to 1-2 runs per over. If you succeed in restricting the Australian batsmen to 250-300 runs, that is half the battle won.
 
At least he realized he didnt do much.

There are some other shameless people who didnt do anything and want Babars job for captaincy.
 
Pakistan has so many legendary pacers. Getting a foreign bowling coach who does not speak the language nor understands the culture is a waste of money. It is evident that Pakistani players hardly understand English, let along speak it at decent levels.

Have Wasim or Shoaib or Gul or someone who is going to stay in Pakistan 365 days a year. Then only the coach is worth the money.
 
It is a fake job which makes no difference except to the bank balance of the guy doing it. The players have responsibility to improve by working hard on their weaknesses. Does Haris Rauf need to be told not to bowl short and wide, SSA told not to bowl rubbish.
 
Pakistan has so many legendary pacers. Getting a foreign bowling coach who does not speak the language nor understands the culture is a waste of money. It is evident that Pakistani players hardly understand English, let along speak it at decent levels.

Have Wasim or Shoaib or Gul or someone who is going to stay in Pakistan 365 days a year. Then only the coach is worth the money.
I disagree in my opinion Shaun Tait was working well with the pacers and Saqlain was working well with spinners we were not that bad.. overall pcb's managerial politics and constant chopping and changes affected the team as well
 
I disagree in my opinion Shaun Tait was working well with the pacers and Saqlain was working well with spinners we were not that bad.. overall pcb's managerial politics and constant chopping and changes affected the team as well
How many international wickets Shaun Tait have?
 
It is a fake job which makes no difference except to the bank balance of the guy doing it. The players have responsibility to improve by working hard on their weaknesses. Does Haris Rauf need to be told not to bowl short and wide, SSA told not to bowl rubbish.

I agre with you,, the actual job of a bowling coach is to conduct bowling drills, identify bowler's mistakes, and help them improve. nowadays, they seem to primarily focus on making money and speaking at press conferences.
 
He was useless. If Pakistan want to get foreign coach they need to get someone better .
 
Pakistan has so many legendary pacers. Getting a foreign bowling coach who does not speak the language nor understands the culture is a waste of money. It is evident that Pakistani players hardly understand English, let along speak it at decent levels.

Have Wasim or Shoaib or Gul or someone who is going to stay in Pakistan 365 days a year. Then only the coach is worth the money.
100% pakistani culture is a different to countries like England, Australia, South Africa etc..

Laaton ke bhoot Baaton se nahi maanege

Training from foreign coach is going to be pointless for these guys they need an ustaad type of training
 
Pakistan needs a coach who is patient and understanding. Will work with bowlers to create plans.

Pakistan doesn't need characters like Akhtar who is all about himself.
 
Umar Gul is likely to replace him for the Australian tour.

Umar Gul who averaged 52 in Australia in 2 Test matches will now teach our fast bowlers how to bowl in Australia.

To be fair, 52 might be a reasonable average to end up with looking at the guys Pakistan will likely take to Aus.
 
Umar gul to be the next bowling coach
And he too will make no difference. Players should have people they can talk to if they need some advice but as a general role its a total waste of time. Players improve by analysing their own bowling and making adjustments.
 
I think Yasir Arafat could be a better option, given his coaching qualifications and deep understanding of Pakistani culture in which he has already played.
 
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