Agreed. A real man would punch a female officer on the face and breaks her nose.
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[VIDEOS/PICTURES] Police officer stood down after ‘truly shocking’ video shows man kicked in face at Manchester Airport
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Start the thread. You are the one that brought the topic that Brits brought civilization to the entire world. I am sure the Caliphate did not exist on Mars.
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It was clear the kick was an act of rage. We understand he is also a human being. But that is why the police personnel are trained. He should have controlled his emotions and acted to ensure the arrest was made correctly with least threat.
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Agreed. A real man would punch a female officer on the face and breaks her nose.
Nobody is suggesting anyone is real
Man , only you with cops kicking someone in the back of the head. Cop woman wasn’t on the ground , she was standing & with the uniform does everything what a man does . Also it’s not clear how it happened.
My advice to you , never get into a street fight
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Agreed. A real man would punch a female officer on the face and breaks her nose.
I have watched the footage again because I was trying to understand the context. The guy who is kicked in the face is attempting to use the airport parking machine when he is accosted by three policemen who roughly try to arrest him. He then lashes out and appears to knock down all three police officers with a series of retaliatory blows, including one which struck the policewoman trying to force him to submit.
The guy was an idiot, whatever the provocation he claimed was prior about his mother being assaulted or abused, once the police lay hands on you, you cannot resist arrest. He will be rightly charged, and the policeman should lose his job, he clearly does not have either the physical capability to restrain someone physically, or the mental capacity to understand his responsibility.
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This is another case of woke Britain gone mad. Women should never be put in a position where they are trying to physically restrain a dangerous man with martial skills. This is where female emancipation has got us, but the west can perhaps relearn some things from the east when it comes to recognising a woman's physical limitations.
Customary and expected response
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Good point.
A woman is likely to lose a fight against a man 9 out of 10 times.
Female cops should only try to restrain females regardless of what feminists may say.
As expected some posters are saying Female cops should not arrest male suspects.
Comply with the law and if you have any grievances, cry about it in the court of law. Do not resist arrest and if you raise your hand on a police officer(irrespective of gender), you deserve to be punished.
I praise the officers for not shooting the suspect and only a kick was given on his face.
Comply with the law and if you have any grievances, cry about it in the court of law. Do not resist arrest and if you raise your hand on a police officer(irrespective of gender), you deserve to be punished.
I praise the officers for not shooting the suspect and only a kick was given on his face.
I guess you have lots of experience fighting on streets like Bruce Lee.
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He is a smug arrogant so and so but flipping hell he's some lawyer.
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Honestly, the 2 boys got off lightly imo. Of all the places, the last place where you want to have a brawl with police officers is at the freaking airport.
If I was in their situation, I would’ve complied, I wouldn’t even think about assaulting the police even if they were being physically aggressive.
If I was in their situation, I would’ve complied, I wouldn’t even think about assaulting the police even if they were being physically aggressive.
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For sure. The 2 lads definitely messed it up. They should be charged maybe.
Anyway, it doesn't change the fact the police officer made an error by kicking a handcuffed man on the head. He should be penalized also.
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yeah, that was out of order, don’t think he was handcuffed, they tasered him and he fell to the ground, that should’ve been enough for them to arrest him.
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Eight officers suspended from Greater Manchester Police over racial discrimination accusation
Greater Manchester Police has suspended eight officers and placed another on restricted duties after a report was made of alleged racial discrimination.
Seven of the suspended officers are from the Bury district, and one is from Rochdale who was working in Bury at the time of the accusations, the force has said.
The move follows the suspension of five officers and the placing of two others on restricted duties, all from the Bury district, on 17 July, GMP added.
The force referred itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) in relation to both cases.
The IOPC is investigating the first report but has reviewed and referred the second incident back to GMP to investigate.
Detective Chief Superintendent Mike Allen, the head of GMP's professional standards directorate, said: "The reports we have received are deeply concerning and I hope to reassure the community of Bury, the wider public, and the GMP workforce that a full and thorough investigation is being conducted into these matters."
The suspensions come as a GMP constable is under criminal investigation after a video shared widely on social media showed an officer kicking a man in the head at Manchester Airport.
There is no suggestion the suspensions announced today are linked to that incident.
Protests took place in Rochdale and the centre of Manchester after the video emerged, as the city's mayor Andy Burnham urged people to "take a step back" and allow the authorities to carry out their investigations.
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Greater Manchester Police has suspended eight officers and placed another on restricted duties after a report was made of alleged racial discrimination.
Seven of the suspended officers are from the Bury district, and one is from Rochdale who was working in Bury at the time of the accusations, the force has said.
The move follows the suspension of five officers and the placing of two others on restricted duties, all from the Bury district, on 17 July, GMP added.
The force referred itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) in relation to both cases.
The IOPC is investigating the first report but has reviewed and referred the second incident back to GMP to investigate.
Detective Chief Superintendent Mike Allen, the head of GMP's professional standards directorate, said: "The reports we have received are deeply concerning and I hope to reassure the community of Bury, the wider public, and the GMP workforce that a full and thorough investigation is being conducted into these matters."
The suspensions come as a GMP constable is under criminal investigation after a video shared widely on social media showed an officer kicking a man in the head at Manchester Airport.
There is no suggestion the suspensions announced today are linked to that incident.
Protests took place in Rochdale and the centre of Manchester after the video emerged, as the city's mayor Andy Burnham urged people to "take a step back" and allow the authorities to carry out their investigations.
Eight officers suspended from Greater Manchester Police over racial discrimination accusation
The suspensions come as Greater Manchester Police is under pressure after an officer was filmed kicking a man in the head and a review found the force carries out unlawful arrests and strip searches.
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What a bizarre counter argument. Basically what you are saying is that policewomen wouldn't get hurt if the offenders complied with the law. If people complied with the law why would you need police officers in the first place?
For someone who complains daily about how political correctness has ruined western countries (despite moving to one yourself) you are still wanting to send women out to apprehend dangerous males who are battering multiple male police officers single handedly?
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He was already tasered and on the ground, no point in kicking him. Police are trained to refrain from engaging in needless retaliation.
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Teenager’s lawyer steps aside after Manchester airport ‘assassination’ remarks
Solicitor for young man kicked by officer claims media have focused on him instead of police misconductThe lawyer for the family at the centre of the Manchester airport brawl has said he is stepping aside as investigations into the incident gather pace.
Akhmed Yakoob became the focus of criticism after claiming 19-year-old Muhammed Fahir was the victim of an “attempted assassination” that had left him “fighting for his life”.
In footage that emerged at the weekend, Fahir could be seen throwing punches at police officers before being incapacitated with a Taser. An armed officer was then filmed kicking the teenager in the face and stamping on his head.
The officer has been suspended and is facing criminal charges of assault as part of an investigation by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC). He is expected to be interviewed under caution in the coming days.
Meanwhile, Greater Manchester police (GMP) have stepped up their investigation into Fahir and three others who were arrested at the scene for affray and assault on emergency service workers.
Yakoob, a director at the Birmingham-based firm Maurice Andrews Solicitors, said the media had tried to “sabotage” him since he started representing Fahir’s family last week.
Addressing the camera from the back of a car on Sunday night, he said: “You may have seen the various media reports about me in the last couple of days.
“The media have tried to sabotage me. It’s not the first time they’ve done this though, but they’ve made this whole situation about me rather than police brutality and police misconduct, which is unfair on Greater Manchester police and the family.
“So after consulting with the family I have decided for now to step aside and I have recommended the family to a lawyer. But I will be keeping a close eye on this.”
He added: “I’d like to say that I am not for violence, whether it’s from police officers, whether it’s from civilians. Always remember that.”
The 36-year-old, who has 200,000 followers on TikTok and has been posting frequent updates about Fahir’s case, came under investigation by the Solicitors Regulation Authority this year after he used social media to promote a false claim of racism against a young teacher.
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The lawyer looked like a complete charlatan, I don't know much about him but he did not leave a good impression.
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Yes.
It is like a football player kicking a player after fouling him. Could be a straight red card in football. It should also be a straight red card (getting fired) for the officer.
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I don't think anyone will deny the two things
- What the accused guy/guys did all through the incident was very wrong
- What the cup did at the end was wrong
The only discussions remains of punishment
- The accused need to get a jail term. There can be some mitigation (not a lot) if it can be proven that there was some provocation - say racist language from the cops or insults. In the end, you have to obey the cops even if they're being insulting, rude or racist. Any discussions need to be post facto
- The cop's penalty is more difficult. I would advocate for a harsh punishment like firing or even arrest if it was a question of cold blooded attack like the original video seemed to show. Given the mitigation of heat of the moment - they'd just been beaten black and blue and had only only been able to get the guys under control, I'm inclined to push for a lower punishment - a brief suspension or even just a warning with mandated psychiatric counseling sessions.
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The family and lawyer of a man who appeared to be kicked and stamped on by a police officer after he and his brother got in an altercation with officers at Manchester Airport have claimed there has been a deliberate campaign to smear their family
Brothers Fahir Amaaz and Muhammad Amaad appeared alongside their lawyer and mother at a press conference this morning. They say they have been left devastated and traumatised by the events at Manchester Airport and members of their family are serving police officers with Greater Manchester Police.
Footage went viral from inside Terminal 2 showing one of the men kicked in the head, before a second leaked clip emerged, which shed more light on the moments before, showing the man throwing punches at a male officer near a ticket machine inside one of the airport's car parks. GMP confirmed that three officers sustained head injuries and a broken nose in the fight, saying the violence in the viral video had been "the last of three altercations" in just over one hour.
Families targeted by UK riot cowards say: 'We are scared to leave our home'
In the press conference, the family's lawyer explained what took place on the plane before it landed at Manchester. The lawyer has claimed the mother was racially abused onboard a Qatar Airways plane and she was called a "P**i". She was feeling extremely unwell and tried to move away from the man who she said was intimidating her. When she left the aircraft, she was upset and collected the wrong luggage at the carousel, only realising when she got home.
The press conference was told, the distressed mother met her sons, who had come to pick her up along with her six-year-old grandson, and explained what had happened on board. They say her sons had spotted the man she said had racially abused her. They spoke to the man before leaving towards the car park where the altercation with police began.
Chaotic scene before man 'kicked' in head by police officer
The family say they were shocked by the level of violence by the police. The family's lawyer says the mum was shouting in Urdu: "They have killed my son", after she saw her son Tasered. He says that both brothers were compliant before the officer stamped on his head and the mother believed her son was dying as he was "limp". They claim the mother was struck by the officer with the Taser gun.
A photo showing bruising on the 56-year-old mother's face was shown to the press conference. Reporters were told, she feared she was about to receive the same treatment that her son's had been subjected to, the lawyer said. The family say Fahir Amaaz was called a "dirty f**king c**t" by a police officer who did not have his bodycam on.
Scottish human rights lawyer Aamer Anwar, representing the family, saying today they are providing context to what took place at Manchester Airport. He previously said they had already spoken with the police watchdog IOPC, with a view to calling for an investigation into the officers involved. Meanwhile, the police constable in the video has been told he was under criminal investigation for assault, the IOPC has confirmed.
Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has advised the public to allow the investigation to take its course after he was shown the full video. The family have now demanded to know "on what legal basis" the video should be shown to a politician before they were given an opportunity to see it. Mr Anwar said that, while any of the family found to be engaged in criminality should be "subjected to due process", there should "never be any legal justification" for the use of "excessive, disproportionate and potentially lethal force against a civilian who is incapacitated and poses no threat".
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Brothers Fahir Amaaz and Muhammad Amaad appeared alongside their lawyer and mother at a press conference this morning. They say they have been left devastated and traumatised by the events at Manchester Airport and members of their family are serving police officers with Greater Manchester Police.
Footage went viral from inside Terminal 2 showing one of the men kicked in the head, before a second leaked clip emerged, which shed more light on the moments before, showing the man throwing punches at a male officer near a ticket machine inside one of the airport's car parks. GMP confirmed that three officers sustained head injuries and a broken nose in the fight, saying the violence in the viral video had been "the last of three altercations" in just over one hour.
Families targeted by UK riot cowards say: 'We are scared to leave our home'
In the press conference, the family's lawyer explained what took place on the plane before it landed at Manchester. The lawyer has claimed the mother was racially abused onboard a Qatar Airways plane and she was called a "P**i". She was feeling extremely unwell and tried to move away from the man who she said was intimidating her. When she left the aircraft, she was upset and collected the wrong luggage at the carousel, only realising when she got home.
The press conference was told, the distressed mother met her sons, who had come to pick her up along with her six-year-old grandson, and explained what had happened on board. They say her sons had spotted the man she said had racially abused her. They spoke to the man before leaving towards the car park where the altercation with police began.
Chaotic scene before man 'kicked' in head by police officer
The family say they were shocked by the level of violence by the police. The family's lawyer says the mum was shouting in Urdu: "They have killed my son", after she saw her son Tasered. He says that both brothers were compliant before the officer stamped on his head and the mother believed her son was dying as he was "limp". They claim the mother was struck by the officer with the Taser gun.
A photo showing bruising on the 56-year-old mother's face was shown to the press conference. Reporters were told, she feared she was about to receive the same treatment that her son's had been subjected to, the lawyer said. The family say Fahir Amaaz was called a "dirty f**king c**t" by a police officer who did not have his bodycam on.
Scottish human rights lawyer Aamer Anwar, representing the family, saying today they are providing context to what took place at Manchester Airport. He previously said they had already spoken with the police watchdog IOPC, with a view to calling for an investigation into the officers involved. Meanwhile, the police constable in the video has been told he was under criminal investigation for assault, the IOPC has confirmed.
Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham has advised the public to allow the investigation to take its course after he was shown the full video. The family have now demanded to know "on what legal basis" the video should be shown to a politician before they were given an opportunity to see it. Mr Anwar said that, while any of the family found to be engaged in criminality should be "subjected to due process", there should "never be any legal justification" for the use of "excessive, disproportionate and potentially lethal force against a civilian who is incapacitated and poses no threat".
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Manchester Airport: Lawyer requests all footage be retained after man was kicked and stamped on by police officer
In extensive detail, solicitor Aamer Anwar provided the family's version of events, including what allegedly happened to spark the incident at Manchester Airport last month.
All footage from the incident at Manchester Airport where a police officer kicked and stamped on a man's head should be retained, a lawyer representing the family has said.
Solicitor Aamer Anwar alleged during a news conference on Tuesday that an "incomplete series of events" had been portrayed two weeks since the incident at Terminal 2 on 23 July.
Speaking alongside Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, his brother Muhammad Amaad and their mother Shameem Akhtar, Mr Anwar said the family had been subject to "horrific racist and Islamophobic abuse on social media" in the aftermath of the altercation.
In extensive detail, Mr Anwar provided the family's version of events, including what allegedly happened to spark the incident during a Qatar Airways flight which Ms Akhtar was on.
Video footage released from the incident showed 19-year-old Mr Amaaz being struck while lying face down on the floor. His brother Muhammad Amaad, 25, was also arrested during the incident.
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In extensive detail, solicitor Aamer Anwar provided the family's version of events, including what allegedly happened to spark the incident at Manchester Airport last month.
All footage from the incident at Manchester Airport where a police officer kicked and stamped on a man's head should be retained, a lawyer representing the family has said.
Solicitor Aamer Anwar alleged during a news conference on Tuesday that an "incomplete series of events" had been portrayed two weeks since the incident at Terminal 2 on 23 July.
Speaking alongside Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, his brother Muhammad Amaad and their mother Shameem Akhtar, Mr Anwar said the family had been subject to "horrific racist and Islamophobic abuse on social media" in the aftermath of the altercation.
In extensive detail, Mr Anwar provided the family's version of events, including what allegedly happened to spark the incident during a Qatar Airways flight which Ms Akhtar was on.
Video footage released from the incident showed 19-year-old Mr Amaaz being struck while lying face down on the floor. His brother Muhammad Amaad, 25, was also arrested during the incident.
Manchester Airport: Lawyer requests all footage be retained after man was kicked and stamped on by police officer
In extensive detail, solicitor Aamer Anwar provided the family's version of events, including what allegedly happened to spark the incident at Manchester Airport last month.
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Second police officer under criminal investigation over airport kick video
A second Greater Manchester Police officer is under a criminal investigation for assault over an incident which saw a man kicked while lying on the floor at Manchester Airport, the police watchdog has said.
Footage shared online last month showed a man being kicked and stamped on by an officer on 23 July.
The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) announced on 26 July a police constable was under criminal investigation in relation to the events.
Second Greater Manchester Police officer under criminal investigation after airport kick video
A second officer is also being investigated for potential gross misconduct, the IOPC says.
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Two men charged with assaulting police officers after Manchester Airport brawl
Two men have been charged with assaulting police officers following a brawl at Manchester Airport in July.
Mohammed Amaaz, 20, faces two charges of causing actual bodily harm, one charge of assaulting an emergency worker and one charge of common assault. Muhammed Amaad, 25, is charged with causing actual bodily harm.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said no police officers will be charged.
The charges relate to an altercation at Manchester Airport on July 23, which resulted in four men being arrested and a police officer being suspended and placed under criminal investigation.
Videos of the brawl were subsequently circulated widely online, stoking community tensions in Rochdale where the two defendants are from.
Announcing the decision, Frank Ferguson, the head of the CPS Special Crime and Counter Terrorism Division, said: “Following our review of an incident at Manchester Airport in July 2024, the Crown Prosecution Service has today issued charges against two individuals.
“Based on a careful consideration of this evidence, we have concluded that two men should be charged with offences including assaults on police officers.
“We have concluded no charges should be brought against any officers. We examined potential offences of actual bodily harm, and common assault, and reviewed expert evidence in the form of an independent report from an expert in the use of police force, to inform this decision.
He added: “We acknowledge that in this case as in any other, the strength of feeling has been high.”
The armed officer involved in the violent arrest remains under investigation by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) but has had his suspension lifted.
Stephen Watson, the chief constable of Greater Manchester Police said: “I welcome today’s decisions from the Crown Prosecution Service to charge two men with assaults on our officers and a member of the public at Manchester Airport earlier this year.
“I also welcome their decision to take no further criminal action against serving officers. I appreciate that a full and thorough independent investigation has led to this outcome.
“Following this decision, I have lifted the suspension of the officer involved. The IOPC’s misconduct investigation continues and we will continue to cooperate fully in this regard.
“Whilst cooperating fully with the IOPC in the discharge of their independent investigation into the conduct of our officers, GMP has offered support to our officers and will continue to do so in the coming months.
“I know that these matters have understandably generated a great deal of debate, scrutiny and speculation. We now have specific charging decisions and the court proceedings must be allowed to progress without the prejudice or taint that can emerge as a result of misplaced commentary, speculation or the sharing of digital content.”
Nigel Farage, the leader of Reform UK, and Richard Tice, the deputy leader, said: “Today’s charges against two men for assaulting police officers at Manchester Airport have been long overdue.”
They said they expect a parallel investigation by the IOPC to “exonerate” the police officers.
“Nothing less will be acceptable.”
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Finally some justice, the uncouth hooligans charged, the police officers have been cleared.
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Brothers deny assaulting police officers at Manchester Airport
Two brothers have pleaded not guilty to assaulting police officers in a disturbance at Manchester Airport.
Footage of the incident at the airport's Terminal Two building on 23 July was widely shared online.
Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, of Rochdale, Greater Manchester, is alleged to have assaulted PC Zachary Marsden and PC Lydia Ward, causing them actual bodily harm.
He is also accused of assaulting PC Ellie Cook at the terminal's car park pay station, as well as the assault of Abdulkareem Ismaeil, a member of the public, said to have taken place earlier at a nearby Starbucks cafe.
Muhammad Amaad, 25, from Rochdale, is also alleged to have assaulted PC Marsden, causing actual bodily harm.
On Thursday, both men appeared at Liverpool Crown Court where they entered not guilty pleas.
A trial, scheduled to last three weeks, has been fixed for 30 June at the same court.
The defendants' unconditional bail has been extended.
Brothers deny assaulting police officers at Manchester Airport
Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, and Muhammad Amaad, 25, have denied assaulting police officers at Manchester Airport in an incident that was filmed and widely shared online.
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Airport brawl followed Starbucks assault, jury hears
A man accused of assaulting police at Manchester Airport last summer had been "aggressive" and got "in the face" of a Starbucks customer before head-butting him, a jury has heard.
Brothers Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, and Muhammad Amaad, 26, are alleged to have used a "high level of violence" when assaulting three police officers at Terminal 2 on 23 July 2024.
Liverpool Crown Court heard police were at the airport responding to an incident at Starbucks in which Mr Amaaz is alleged to have headbutted a man and punched him.
Mr Amaaz and Mr Amaad, both from Rochdale in Greater Manchester, deny the allegations and claim self-defence.
Opening the prosecution's case on Friday, Paul Greaney KC said police officers traced the brothers to the terminal's car park payment area.
Mr Greaney told the court that two armed officers - PC Zachary Marsden and PC Ellie Cook - and their unarmed colleague PC Lydia Ward approached the defendants.
He said: "The officers attempted to move Mohammed Fahir Amaaz away from a payment machine in order to arrest him, but he resisted, and his brother Muhammad Amaad intervened."
Mr Greaney said both suspects assaulted PC Marsden.
"In the moments that followed, the first defendant [Mr Amaaz] also assaulted PC Cook and then PC Ward too, breaking her nose," Mr Greaney told members of the jury.
"The defendants used a high level of violence."
Mr Amaaz is alleged to have assaulted PC Marsden and PC Ward, causing them actual bodily harm.
He is also accused of assaulting PC Cook and the earlier assault of Abdulkareem Ismaeil at Starbucks.
His older brother Mr Amaad is charged with assaulting PC Marsden, causing actual bodily harm.
Mr Greaney said the defendants had travelled to the airport with their young nephew to collect their mother, who was due to arrive on a flight from Qatar.
He said it was clear "something happened" involving Abdulkareem Ismaeil - who was on the same flight as the brothers' mother - that had "made [her] unhappy".
She pointed out Mr Ismaeil, who was in Starbucks with his family, to her sons as they were walking through the terminal.
"At just after 8.20pm, the defendants entered Starbucks and confronted Abdulkareem Ismaeil," said Mr Greaney.
"During that confrontation, Mohammed Fahir Amaaz delivered a headbutt to the face of Abdulkareem Ismaeil and punched him, then attempted to deliver other blows, all in front of a number of children.
"The prosecution case is that this was obviously unlawful conduct."
'Quite aggressive'
Starbucks manager Cameron Cartledge told the court he was in his office doing some paperwork when he heard "raised voices" and went to the door to see what was going on.
As his colleague prepared the Mr Ismaeil's order at the counter, Mr Cartledge said he saw another man, wearing a blue tracksuit and subsequently identified as Mr Amaaz, "quite close to him, shouting at him".
Mr Cartledge said the shouting was in a foreign language he did not understand.
The witness said: "At the time of the arguing he was very close to him, like in his face.
"Blue tracksuit man seemed quite aggressive, obviously annoyed about something, I don't know what. Blue tracksuit man was aggressively shouting.
"His body language, his tone of voice, was quite aggressive."
Mr Greaney asked: "What about Mr Ismaeil, the man with his back against the counter?"
The witness replied: "He had a raised voice, but I would say he was more defensive than aggressive.
"There was arguing, I don't know what was being said, then blue tracksuit man headbutted the man we see in the black.
"He got him in the face. It did not look like it hurt Mr Ismaeil much but it was forceful enough to make him stagger back into the counter."
Mr Cartledge said Mr Amaaz then threw two punches which he thought had landed on Mr Ismaeil's shoulder.
Working at the airport, Mr Cartledge said he saw people "arguing all the time" but, after witnessing the headbutt, called police.
Imran Khan KC, defending Amaaz, suggested to Mr Cartledge that the conversation had been in English.
Mr Cartledge replied: "It didn't sound like it was in English."
Asked if he sensed any aggression from Mr Ismaeil, Mr Cartledge said: "No, he was more defensive. He just stood there probably more worried about his children behind him."
'Not a complicated case'
Starbucks barista Justine Pakalne also told the court she did not believe the conversation between the two men had been in English.
Mr Khan put it to her that Mr Ismaeil had been the "aggressor" and that he had stepped forwards towards Mr Amaaz.
Ms Pakalne said: "Even if he stepped forward he didn't lay a hand on him. It was the other way round - he (Amaaz) headbutted him."
Mr Greaney told jurors the Crown's case was this was "not a complicated case" since events had been captured on CCTV.
"So you will not have to depend only on the recollections of witnesses. You will also be able to see with your own eyes what happened," he said.
He suggested the defendants would say "that at all stages they were acting in lawful self-defence or in defence of the other".
"Our prediction is that you will readily conclude that the defendants were not acting in lawful self-defence and that their conduct was unlawful," he added.
The trial is due to resume on Monday.
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A man accused of assaulting police at Manchester Airport last summer had been "aggressive" and got "in the face" of a Starbucks customer before head-butting him, a jury has heard.
Brothers Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, and Muhammad Amaad, 26, are alleged to have used a "high level of violence" when assaulting three police officers at Terminal 2 on 23 July 2024.
Liverpool Crown Court heard police were at the airport responding to an incident at Starbucks in which Mr Amaaz is alleged to have headbutted a man and punched him.
Mr Amaaz and Mr Amaad, both from Rochdale in Greater Manchester, deny the allegations and claim self-defence.
Opening the prosecution's case on Friday, Paul Greaney KC said police officers traced the brothers to the terminal's car park payment area.
Mr Greaney told the court that two armed officers - PC Zachary Marsden and PC Ellie Cook - and their unarmed colleague PC Lydia Ward approached the defendants.
He said: "The officers attempted to move Mohammed Fahir Amaaz away from a payment machine in order to arrest him, but he resisted, and his brother Muhammad Amaad intervened."
Mr Greaney said both suspects assaulted PC Marsden.
"In the moments that followed, the first defendant [Mr Amaaz] also assaulted PC Cook and then PC Ward too, breaking her nose," Mr Greaney told members of the jury.
"The defendants used a high level of violence."
Mr Amaaz is alleged to have assaulted PC Marsden and PC Ward, causing them actual bodily harm.
He is also accused of assaulting PC Cook and the earlier assault of Abdulkareem Ismaeil at Starbucks.
His older brother Mr Amaad is charged with assaulting PC Marsden, causing actual bodily harm.
Mr Greaney said the defendants had travelled to the airport with their young nephew to collect their mother, who was due to arrive on a flight from Qatar.
He said it was clear "something happened" involving Abdulkareem Ismaeil - who was on the same flight as the brothers' mother - that had "made [her] unhappy".
She pointed out Mr Ismaeil, who was in Starbucks with his family, to her sons as they were walking through the terminal.
"At just after 8.20pm, the defendants entered Starbucks and confronted Abdulkareem Ismaeil," said Mr Greaney.
"During that confrontation, Mohammed Fahir Amaaz delivered a headbutt to the face of Abdulkareem Ismaeil and punched him, then attempted to deliver other blows, all in front of a number of children.
"The prosecution case is that this was obviously unlawful conduct."
'Quite aggressive'
Starbucks manager Cameron Cartledge told the court he was in his office doing some paperwork when he heard "raised voices" and went to the door to see what was going on.
As his colleague prepared the Mr Ismaeil's order at the counter, Mr Cartledge said he saw another man, wearing a blue tracksuit and subsequently identified as Mr Amaaz, "quite close to him, shouting at him".
Mr Cartledge said the shouting was in a foreign language he did not understand.
The witness said: "At the time of the arguing he was very close to him, like in his face.
"Blue tracksuit man seemed quite aggressive, obviously annoyed about something, I don't know what. Blue tracksuit man was aggressively shouting.
"His body language, his tone of voice, was quite aggressive."
Mr Greaney asked: "What about Mr Ismaeil, the man with his back against the counter?"
The witness replied: "He had a raised voice, but I would say he was more defensive than aggressive.
"There was arguing, I don't know what was being said, then blue tracksuit man headbutted the man we see in the black.
"He got him in the face. It did not look like it hurt Mr Ismaeil much but it was forceful enough to make him stagger back into the counter."
Mr Cartledge said Mr Amaaz then threw two punches which he thought had landed on Mr Ismaeil's shoulder.
Working at the airport, Mr Cartledge said he saw people "arguing all the time" but, after witnessing the headbutt, called police.
Imran Khan KC, defending Amaaz, suggested to Mr Cartledge that the conversation had been in English.
Mr Cartledge replied: "It didn't sound like it was in English."
Asked if he sensed any aggression from Mr Ismaeil, Mr Cartledge said: "No, he was more defensive. He just stood there probably more worried about his children behind him."
'Not a complicated case'
Starbucks barista Justine Pakalne also told the court she did not believe the conversation between the two men had been in English.
Mr Khan put it to her that Mr Ismaeil had been the "aggressor" and that he had stepped forwards towards Mr Amaaz.
Ms Pakalne said: "Even if he stepped forward he didn't lay a hand on him. It was the other way round - he (Amaaz) headbutted him."
Mr Greaney told jurors the Crown's case was this was "not a complicated case" since events had been captured on CCTV.
"So you will not have to depend only on the recollections of witnesses. You will also be able to see with your own eyes what happened," he said.
He suggested the defendants would say "that at all stages they were acting in lawful self-defence or in defence of the other".
"Our prediction is that you will readily conclude that the defendants were not acting in lawful self-defence and that their conduct was unlawful," he added.
The trial is due to resume on Monday.
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A police officer who had her nose broken after being punched to the floor at Manchester Airport has told a court she was "absolutely terrified".
Jurors were shown footage of PC Lydia Ward with blood streaming from her nose following the incident.
The court heard she was attacked by Mohammed Fahir Amaaz in July 2024 after officers tried to arrest him for allegedly headbutting a man in an airport Starbucks.
Footage shows him resisting and a brawl breaking out between police, Amaaz, and his brother Muhammad Amaad.
PC Ward said they intended to detain Amaaz and take him outside but he started to "tense up and resist" when colleagues took hold of him.
"Things escalated very quickly. It just went from nought to a hundred," she told Liverpool Crown Court.
She said she had Amaaz's arm behind his back when he began kicking out at PC Marsden and then "punched me straight in the face".
"I can't really remember where it landed but I know where my injuries were. I remember falling on the floor and everything went black," she said.
The officer, who said she was "petite" and weighed eight stone, told the court it was the first time such violence had been used against her.
"As I came round, all I could feel was blood pouring out of my nose," said PC Ward.
"I was just thinking he has done something to my nose, face area, I didn't know what has happened."
The officer - who joined the force in 2018 after being a special constable - said she was "absolutely terrified".
"I didn't know who was going to come up at me next," she told the court. "I was scared of going after this male again and being punched in the face again."
She said other people in the car park pay area were filming on their phones and "shouting stuff".
"Nobody came to assist. I felt everyone in that room was against us," PC Ward added.
Defence lawyer Rosemary Fernandes suggested 20-year-old Amaaz had been "taken by surprise" and believed he was being attacked when police approached him.
She argued he punched PC Ward in "lawful self-defence on the basis that you were an assailant".
"It is important you identify yourselves as police officers, isn't it?" she asked.
"I don't think we had any time to do that," replied PC Ward. "We didn't have any time for rational discussion with this male as it turned violently quickly."
She said it would have been obvious to the defendant that she was a female police officer.
Amaaz is alleged to have caused actual bodily harm to PC Ward and PC Marsden.
He is also accused of the assault of PC Cook and the earlier assault in Starbucks of Abdulkareem Ismaeil.
His brother, Amaad, is also alleged to have caused actual bodily harm to PC Marsden.
Both men, from Rochdale, deny the allegations. The trial continues.
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Jurors were shown footage of PC Lydia Ward with blood streaming from her nose following the incident.
The court heard she was attacked by Mohammed Fahir Amaaz in July 2024 after officers tried to arrest him for allegedly headbutting a man in an airport Starbucks.
Footage shows him resisting and a brawl breaking out between police, Amaaz, and his brother Muhammad Amaad.
PC Ward said they intended to detain Amaaz and take him outside but he started to "tense up and resist" when colleagues took hold of him.
"Things escalated very quickly. It just went from nought to a hundred," she told Liverpool Crown Court.
She said she had Amaaz's arm behind his back when he began kicking out at PC Marsden and then "punched me straight in the face".
"I can't really remember where it landed but I know where my injuries were. I remember falling on the floor and everything went black," she said.
The officer, who said she was "petite" and weighed eight stone, told the court it was the first time such violence had been used against her.
"As I came round, all I could feel was blood pouring out of my nose," said PC Ward.
"I was just thinking he has done something to my nose, face area, I didn't know what has happened."
The officer - who joined the force in 2018 after being a special constable - said she was "absolutely terrified".
"I didn't know who was going to come up at me next," she told the court. "I was scared of going after this male again and being punched in the face again."
She said other people in the car park pay area were filming on their phones and "shouting stuff".
"Nobody came to assist. I felt everyone in that room was against us," PC Ward added.
Defence lawyer Rosemary Fernandes suggested 20-year-old Amaaz had been "taken by surprise" and believed he was being attacked when police approached him.
She argued he punched PC Ward in "lawful self-defence on the basis that you were an assailant".
"It is important you identify yourselves as police officers, isn't it?" she asked.
"I don't think we had any time to do that," replied PC Ward. "We didn't have any time for rational discussion with this male as it turned violently quickly."
She said it would have been obvious to the defendant that she was a female police officer.
Amaaz is alleged to have caused actual bodily harm to PC Ward and PC Marsden.
He is also accused of the assault of PC Cook and the earlier assault in Starbucks of Abdulkareem Ismaeil.
His brother, Amaad, is also alleged to have caused actual bodily harm to PC Marsden.
Both men, from Rochdale, deny the allegations. The trial continues.
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Violent criminals should be debarred from civilized society..countries should only admit people who can contribute positively
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Would have fun to see for this guy to try with American cops.
The community he belongs must be very proud
>>>>Junior counsel Adam Birkby asked: “The prosecution’s case is that during the incident at the pay station your use of force was offensive. It was not defensive. Do you agree or disagree?”
Mr Amaad replied: “I disagree.”
Mr Birkby continued: “And that level of force, in particular the six punches, was unreasonable.”
“No, I disagree,” Mr Amaad responded.
“And your use of force was unlawful?”
“I disagree,” said the defendant.
Mr Birkby then asked: “On reflection ... is there anything about your behaviour that you would change?”
Mr Amaad answered: “No.”
He told the jury that he believed Pc Marsden was choking his younger brother and said he only became physical to intervene. He also claimed that he acted in self-defence after Pc Marsden allegedly punched him first.
His barrister, Chloe Gardner, asked: “Did you believe you were under attack?”
Mr Amaad replied: “Absolutely.”
The community he belongs must be very proud
A tense courtroom scene as a man accused of assault at Manchester Airport boldly declares he has no regrets about his actions during the incident.
>>>>Junior counsel Adam Birkby asked: “The prosecution’s case is that during the incident at the pay station your use of force was offensive. It was not defensive. Do you agree or disagree?”
Mr Amaad replied: “I disagree.”
Mr Birkby continued: “And that level of force, in particular the six punches, was unreasonable.”
“No, I disagree,” Mr Amaad responded.
“And your use of force was unlawful?”
“I disagree,” said the defendant.
Mr Birkby then asked: “On reflection ... is there anything about your behaviour that you would change?”
Mr Amaad answered: “No.”
He told the jury that he believed Pc Marsden was choking his younger brother and said he only became physical to intervene. He also claimed that he acted in self-defence after Pc Marsden allegedly punched him first.
His barrister, Chloe Gardner, asked: “Did you believe you were under attack?”
Mr Amaad replied: “Absolutely.”
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Think the lawyer got it wrong. these idiots have no brain
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British Asians are always involved in some sort of brawls and controversies. Thankfully American Pakistanis are of a far higher class and heritage and bring a good name.
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Cause they know if such uncouth yobs try attacking American police they'd end up in a casket and not in a court.
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That's not justice. The yobs should have been charged, but the police officer who aimed the head kick should not have been cleared either. Two wrongs don't make a right.
The woke culture which saw the young policewomen getting punched to the ground is partly to blame as well. She ended up with a busted nose and crying, yet all the equality ponces who are outraged are culpable as well.
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I don't know about American Pakistanis, but British ones are usually from the rural communities and they end up in similar communites in Britain except the white version. These are two of the same kind, generally very aggressive, crime ridden areas. The type of Pakistanis involved in this brawl would see similar in small towns where they live. Britain was the home of the football hooligan, here we are seeing their brown counterpart.
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lol Pakistan at home has no good name. I've seen cops harrass, threaten and phyiscally assault ordinary Pakistanis in public, most of them allow this abuse. I assume you do to.
If cops attack you, any real man would fight back. Self defence is important.
This case is muddy and a guilty verdict was always coming for the youths.
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American Pakistanis and non-British Pakistanis in general are civilised and hard working people. Most of the bad name comes from the acts of Brit Pakistanis, I know people will not like to hear it.
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I don't have any problem hearing it. That bad behaviour either originates in Pakistan or is a reflection of the British society they are living in. Which do you think it is?
I have some opinions but will wait to hear back from you.
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If it originated in Pakistan - wouldn't it also affect other Pakistanis equally? Brit Pakistanis are a very specific breed; all the bad press we get as a whole can largely be traced to Brit Pakistanis. It doesn't mean that all of them are like that of course - I am sure many of them such as yourself are proud ambassadors and exemplary citizens.
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So if it didn't originate in Pakistan, then it must have originated in Britain right? It has to be one culture or the other which takes the majority of the blame here. Don't try to dodge the question by suggesting that it can't be Pakistan origin otherwise all of Pakistanis would be the same. This is a weak answer because different parts of Britain also have different culture.
I could pinpoint the blame in a few sentences accurately, but if people are making such claims then they should be able to do so as well. Otherwise the Indian tactic of bad mouthing British Pakistanis on these boards will be badly exposed.
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I can assure you one thing, Nawaz and Zardaris thugs who are brave in Pakistan , run like the little btchs they are in the UK. I met a few of Nawazs supporters last summer, we made them leave the restaurant, its hard to eat with such bhaigarait eating nearby, they quietly walked out.
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What weak answer? I am just asking you, if Pakistan were the problem, why aren't American Pakistanis or Canadian Pakistanis or European Pakistanis ever in the news for the wrong reasons? I only see enough evidence to rule Pakistan out. As a proud Brit PTI fan, you should be able to answer for Brit - I cannot answer for Britain as I have absolutely nothing to do with them or your little Joshilas or fellow Rotherham fans like @KingKhanWC
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Don't speak Urdu - it isn't your forte. English isn't either. Big talk from a bloke rejoicing attacking innocent people at a restaurant. Try the same stunt in Punjab and you would struggle to set foot outside of Rotherham again, or if you are lucky you might join your hero and can ask him for autographs and selfies.
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Patwori isnt your first language and neither is English. Nobody was attacked, they were asked to kindly leave due to their behaviour and ardent support for criminals. Ive been to Pakistan many times, never paid a bribe, told the cops to f themselves. Most are cowards and walk off, they target the innocent.
The point was in the UK people will defend themselves against anyone inc cops, as its the right thing to do as long as you are proportionate. Cops slap public in Pakistan esp the Punjabi cops in Lahore because they are slave of Sharifs. I suppose in that situation you offer the other cheek too.
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King Khan, stick to Roterham circles and don't talk about things you have no idea about including Punjab. Badmouth Lahore all you want - hopefully it won't come back to bite youPatwori isnt your first language and neither is English. Nobody was attacked, they were asked to kindly leave due to their behaviour and ardent support for criminals. Ive been to Pakistan many times, never paid a bribe, told the cops to f themselves. Most are cowards and walk off, they target the innocent.
The point was in the UK people will defend themselves against anyone inc cops, as its the right thing to do as long as you are proportionate. Cops slap public in Pakistan esp the Punjabi cops in Lahore because they are slave of Sharifs. I suppose in that situation you offer the other cheek too.
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Ok let me educate you on British life. It is not like what you see on your film screens with Harry Potter films. Outside of London and the major metropolitan city centres, the surrounding areas are pretty rough. Just one look at how the policeman took a kick at the man's head shows he has a hooligan side behind the uniform. Anyone familiar with British street life would recognise it. Look at the guilty Pakistani man as well, how he is swinging punches expertly. In Pakistan they just don't fight like that, they slap like sissies. Brit Pakistanis know how to defend themselves, this isn't a place for softies, unless you live in Mummy Daddy house and never step out of your bedroom without permission.
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You're just proving my point here, Cap. It doesn't help of course that a lot of Brit Asians are living in relative poverty doing odd jobs...not that there is anything wrong with that.
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But what point does it prove? We know a lot of Brit Asians are living in relative poverty, most of them are economic migrants in the first place. A lot of them are self employed and probably not declaring their earnings anyway.
They are a reflection of the culture they came from (Pakistan pinds mostly) and the culture they settle in (English pinds mostly).
Pakistani yobs fit right in with the English yobs, that is what infuriates the local population so much. They expect British Pakistanis to be "Please saar!" Yaas Saar!" And it just doesn't happen. This is why for me you have to look beyond the skin colour and see what is driving the yob mentality in the first place. Is it foreign or is it home grown?
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I am not sure what point you are making here, Cap? If you want to say Brit Pakistanis are all from the pind and that explains how they behave then that is your opinion. I see them as Brit Paksitanis, not as being representative of where they or their parents were born....this becomes even clearer when you consider the Pakistanis from these same pinds (your words) when they go to US, Canada, Australia, Europe - they are far more civilised and model citizens. Feel free to disagree.
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He explained it very well. What more do you need explaining... is too much for your IQ level?
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Brit Pakistanis are not all from the pind, but a good amount of them are. This is because Britain was importing a lot of them to do manual labour after the war due to labour shortages. But even if Pakistanis from pinds were not badly behaved in themselves, they tend to be quite hardened by physical labour, so when they landed in hard areas of Britain which were plagued by crime, they were able to handle it. Kids growing up also then adopt the local culture, could be drink, drugs, theft etc.
A lot of British Pakistanis have actually progressed out of these areas and are now being replaced by a new wave of refugee types. I hope that makes it clearer, but if you want any more detail let me know. The point is, the British Pakistanis are not bringing anything new to Britain, all the violence is locally cultured. Even the curse words which are blocked out by the forum are testament to this.
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Yes please explain more. As said this phenomenon is unique to British Pakistanis among Pakistanis and people of Pak origin. Who are these refugees you speak of?
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I have lurked the forum for a good while and I am aware of some of his...let's us say....unconventional views. They make me very uncomfortable to say the least and I have found that Brit Paks tend to harbor these views which most in the civilized world, Pakistan included, would find extreme.
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It's so disturbing to see someone advocate for violence and abuse in the most sacred Mosque in the world. It's inexcusable.
Even though I'm a British Pakistani, it makes me sad to see how far we lag behind our American counterparts in education and the way our community carry ourseleves.
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lol Someone who supports theft and someone who by admission goes to gay bars in soho can hardly call out anyone’s faith .
don’t understand the religion . Any known murderers and criminals will always be confronted in any masjid . Islam believes in justice.
don’t understand the religion . Any known murderers and criminals will always be confronted in any masjid . Islam believes in justice.
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The new wave of refugees I was talking about was Afghans, Africans, poor Arab countries, Tamils, etc.
A lot of the Pakistani immigration was from Kashmir region in the 60's and 70's I believe, and they bring a lot of their culture from there with them. Those might be what you refer to as Brit Pakistanis. Just depends which part of their yobbo culture you want to attribute to Pakistan, and which part Britain.
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lol Someone who supports theft and someone who by admission goes to gay bars in soho can hardly call out anyone’s faith .
Who goes to gay bars?
100%. That young lady officer crying uncontrollably with a bloodied broken nose is a tough video to watch.
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There is no need to change the title of the thread unless you support the violent kick aimed to the head of an immobilised man by the police officer.
What happened to the lady police officer was also deplorable, but that is part of the problem of woke equality laws which don't take into account reality of police work which can often involve violence. Do you support sending petite female police officers to deal with such situations?
That punch would have broken nose of a male officer as well. The point being, the guys was clearly at fault for trying to attack the police officer. Had it happened in United States, this guy would have forgotten his fathers name by now. Read the story of Kenneth DeHart for example.
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I see you avoided answering the question which I asked. I specifically asked if you supported sending petite female police officers to deal with violent situations. Instead you deflected weakly that a male officer would have had his nose broken as well. Not if he was strong enough to apprehend the perp in the first place genius. The poor girl tried to lay hands on our British Pakistani hero and he turned round and swung for her in true British hooligan fashion.
The male officer recognised this and that is why HIS British hooligan instincts took over and he aimed a football kick at the immobilised man on the ground.
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I agree with you Cap that police duty requires a certain kind of profile. However that doesn't excuse the deplorable behavior of the bloke. Rajdeep is likely a feminist who believes absurd things and has blue hair so there's that.
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Yes this is why I have said previously that we are not here to excuse the British Pakistani thugs, they were rightly apprehended and should be charged. But the police officer also acted in a thuggish manner and he should not have had the charges dropped, but this just shows how easily people are manipulated when they have no firm convictions of right or wrong.
Western people are just as susceptible to this as anyone else. Rajdeep is not a feminist, he is more likely a head nodding hindutva who looks to join in any opportunity to bash Pakistanis on behalf of the white community. He thinks it will earn him brownie points, but as we have seen in the rest of the world this does not win you any respect no matter how much you may crave it.
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No worries, I know you are expressing your grievances. As mentioned by Capt. - we're not here to excuse the extremists and thugs here. They give us UK Pakistanis a bad name. KKWC is a prime example of this when you read what he has to say. You may have known this before since you mentioned you were a lurker prior to joining PP.
Not only has he promoted the abuse and violence of Muslims in the most sacred Mosque in the world (as shown in post 299), he has also slandered me by accusing me of going to gay bars. I have never been to one, nor do I ever see myself visiting such a place, nor have I ever been "gay". I am glad he brought this up because I will tell you exactly when he started this around.
He was being his usual obnoxious self on the Arsenal forum whilst he was on Umrah earlier this year. I found it quite sad and pathetic, so I called him out on it and advised him to make better use of his time whilst he was staying in the two holy cities.
In response, he said something along the lines of "you go to gay bars, who are you to tell me what I should do in my own time".
Imagine going to Umrah and slandering someone, that too on a public forum visited by many people around the world. If he had any decency he would retract these remarks and apologise.
@sweep_shot - in response to your question (post 305).
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I see. Thanks for clarifying.
