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[VIDEOS/ PICTURES] Waqar Younis "Liked that Rizwan stood in the middle and read prayers in front of the Hindus"

Lets see if Fakhar e Alam has the audacity to ask him in the A Sports Pavilion coverage. Perfect platform for him to apologize where if he DOES apologize he will likely say he got carried away and would like to apologize to my Indian brothers and sisters. something like that.
 
Are you projecting your hate for the minorities of your country on others.

Did you find any comment of my defending any regressive organization?

Or

Did you see me getting upset if someone called out a regressive hate-driven organization?

Or

Do you understand the concept of 'projecting"?

The comment I replied to tried to judge those who criticized Waqar for his comments, and it seems that is a problem, it is almost as if you wanted every Pakistani to support and promote Waqar's insensitive remarks.
 
Even jinx is denoted by kufr(Urdu Word کفر - Kufr Meaning in English is Infidelity) . Such is the hate for other religions , what to do ?

in this case it has nothing to do with others. Kuffar toot gaya means the Jinx on someone is broken. the Kuffar in the idiom applies to the Pakistan team and the monkey on their back, nothing to do with the opponent in this idiom
 
Did you find any comment of my defending any regressive organization?

Or

Did you see me getting upset if someone called out a regressive hate-driven organization?

Or

Do you understand the concept of 'projecting"?

The comment I replied to tried to judge those who criticized Waqar for his comments, and it seems that is a problem, it is almost as if you wanted every Pakistani to support and promote Waqar's insensitive remarks.

You are the one assuming what other person might be thinking, so i assumed what you might be thinking while assuming what others might be assuming.
 
Waqar and Sh Rasheed have ruined great moments for Pakistanis. Can’t expect the letter to do anything but Waqar should apologize profusely and still should be sacked.
 
Waqar and Sh Rasheed have ruined great moments for Pakistanis. Can’t expect the letter to do anything but Waqar should apologize profusely and still should be sacked.


Waqar said is inner thoughts out loud. This is the mentality of a lot of Pakistanis. I wouldn't be surprised that apart from Wahab and Wasim Akram, Fakhar e Alam and Misbah harbor the same thoughts.
 
Too much religion in Pakistan. Each player has a prescription when he speaks - religion at the start and end of every sentence they utter. You dont have to do that to have and feel God in your own heart. At this point, the over exuberance comes across more as politics than reverence.
 
Too much religion in Pakistan. Each player has a prescription when he speaks - religion at the start and end of every sentence they utter. You dont have to do that to have and feel God in your own heart. At this point, the over exuberance comes across more as politics than reverence.

nothing wrong with personally applying words of faith in your words to yourselves and your team. but don't involve cricket opponents into that
 
Misbah and Waqar must be cussing themselves. Why did we quit, we could have a part of History in Making with India win.

What I really disappointed with is how Indian fans are trolling Mohd Shami. So sad to see that can only happen in India.

I’m very sure if MisWaq was part of the team this win against India wouldn’t have happened.

The presence of Saqlain, Hayden and philander seems to make a lot of difference

Especially the bowling department and I feel like Pakistan are playing like a champion team, never in their history they started an ICC tournament with 2 emphatic wins in a row.

Fielding , I was impressed with that against India. New Zealand didn’t see against them.

In batting, although they bat deep I still feel middle order is little weak. Just an area of concern
 
I always felt Waqar is stupid and this was just pathetic. Sitting on international platforms spitting garbage. Someone hold a mirror to this ******!
 
Man, you guys are giving too much importance to these non-issues. Such things exist on both sides. Someone has said something but it isn't the first time it has been said and won't be the last - move on, you guys are giving this type of hate and prejudice more importance by constantly discussing it.
 
Waqar said is inner thoughts out loud. This is the mentality of a lot of Pakistanis. I wouldn't be surprised that apart from Wahab and Wasim Akram, Fakhar e Alam and Misbah harbor the same thoughts.

It is not mentality of majority of Pakistanis. Or they would be electing right wing, religious leaders throughout their history.

Faith is extremely important to Pakistanis which is a fact, but their history shows it is not decisive in leader selection.

In fact, whenever their leaders have pandered to religious lobbies (e.g. Bhutto, Sharif, Musharaf etc) at the expense of general populace, they have lost elections.

Back to cricket: I think what Waqar has said was in rank poor taste and should be made to pay financially for it.

It also put Rizwan in the spotlight which wasn't needed. Players are making crosses, doing sajdas and other gestures in all sport - without it impacting any play at all. It will also impact minorities in sensitive places such as in India and Pakistan. I am seething.
 
I refuse to let the words of a narrow-thinking man influence what I think of the current Pakistan team.

But it also shows what 29 years of battering did to the fragile psyche of some legendary players. If you watch the video, Shoaib Akhtar has a knowing smirky smile in response.

No Gambhir and Sehwag s racism is very well known to everyone for a long period of time, if Waqar said that stuff chin up and take it as reply rather than getting emotional:sarf
Of course, everything is always a reply :Dah

Let's see who takes it on the chin :) the next time the two sides meet.
 
Wow, wow, wow, as Rameez would say. I knew Waqar was stupid, but I honestly didn't expect this from him. This is cringy to the nth degree and basically undoes all the goodwill generated by the maturity shown by the team in the aftermath of the win.
 
This what happens when you bring religion into cricket. I say the current players along with ex players should watch how they represent themselves on live television. Had Rizwan read his namaaz privately guys like Waqar would not have the imaginary of what we witnessed through his words.
 
The euphoria of this victory exposed the inner stupid person - just as an intoxicated person opens up when hung over. What an idiotic statement - if not an understatement from me. Thanks for the Mullah culture spread by Marde Momin.
 
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Our ex players are toxic and someone needs to give these idiots a shut up call. Cricket was between PK and Ind, and not between Islam and Hinduism. Shameful behaviour from these idiots. I hope no franchise ever employees this idiot.
 
Waqar really tainted a beautiful game of cricket for us with that third rate comment. Needs to be made an example of and disciplined from his media gig.
 
Poor comment from Waqar. Our Nimaz is our mandatory obligation. We pray it in front of hindu or muslim, it has same reward. There is no special thing here. He should apologise for inappropriate comments.
 
A muslim reading prayers in front of hindus is a common sight in India Waqar Bhai, maybe it's quite rare for someone who lives in Pakistan.
There is a mosque inside the premises of Krishna's birthplace temple.
 
I watched the interview. Maybe I didn't get it, but I didn't hear him say "hindoun k bech mai".
 
Wow .. when you've woken up Venkatesh Prasad from his decades long hibernation, you know you must have said something terrible :O

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Hinduon ke beech me khade hoke namaaz padi, that was very very special for me" - Waqar .<br>Takes jihadi mindset of another level to say this in a sport. What a shameful man.</p>— Venkatesh Prasad (@venkateshprasad) <a href="https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/status/1453025402369155072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Wow .. when you've woken up Venkatesh Prasad from his decades long hibernation, you know you must have said something terrible :O

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Hinduon ke beech me khade hoke namaaz padi, that was very very special for me" - Waqar .<br>Takes jihadi mindset of another level to say this in a sport. What a shameful man.</p>— Venkatesh Prasad (@venkateshprasad) <a href="https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/status/1453025402369155072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Prasad also added a needless Jihadi wording invoking his intent to use anti muslim language. so in essence Prasad has the same mindset as Waqar and this response shows it. but in the end it all started with a bad comment by Waqar
 
Wow .. when you've woken up Venkatesh Prasad from his decades long hibernation, you know you must have said something terrible :O

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Hinduon ke beech me khade hoke namaaz padi, that was very very special for me" - Waqar .<br>Takes jihadi mindset of another level to say this in a sport. What a shameful man.</p>— Venkatesh Prasad (@venkateshprasad) <a href="https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/status/1453025402369155072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Both are being ridiculous - "Jihadi mindset" is used as a derogatory term in India.

not the best reply.
 
Take it easy Englishman. He is not asserting that there is war going on between Islam and Hinduism there. Dont make a mountain out of molehill.

Sure Kohli and others are not anti-Muslim bigots but Muslim cricketers are not expected to show their religiosity in front of them. I doubt Muhammad Shami and Muhammad Siraj are even praying salat. If they ever does that, they will get in trouble. Its a fact that Indian cricket is infected with anti-Muslim sentiments at domestic level. Search about Wasim Jafar.

Any evidence to back that up or did you just pull it out of your behind?
 
Wow .. when you've woken up Venkatesh Prasad from his decades long hibernation, you know you must have said something terrible :O

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"Hinduon ke beech me khade hoke namaaz padi, that was very very special for me" - Waqar .<br>Takes jihadi mindset of another level to say this in a sport. What a shameful man.</p>— Venkatesh Prasad (@venkateshprasad) <a href="https://twitter.com/venkateshprasad/status/1453025402369155072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Both are being ridiculous - "Jihadi mindset" is used as a derogatory term in India.

not the best reply.
 
Check the twitter battle going on now between Harbhajan and Amir. Its getting ugly TBH.

I was always an advocate of Indo-Pak cricket resumption. But the way things happened during past couple of days, I think its better off we dont play. IPL/Eng tour was so peaceful..lol. And this is where education is so important.

One win in the shortest version of the game and so much arrogance. Just shocking.
 
To be honest, Waqar always came across as he had a bit of an axe to grind against Indians. Remember his tweets on losing respe for Dhoni in the 2019 WC.

In contrast, I don't think, at least to my memory, I ever remember Wasim making any controversial comment against India. It's probably why he is the most loved Pakistani cricketer in India. He's certainly my favourite Pak cricketer ever.
 
Check the twitter battle going on now between Harbhajan and Amir. Its getting ugly TBH.

I was always an advocate of Indo-Pak cricket resumption. But the way things happened during past couple of days, I think its better off we dont play. IPL/Eng tour was so peaceful..lol. And this is where education is so important.

One win in the shortest version of the game and so much arrogance. Just shocking.


To be fair Amir was talking about Harbajhan cricket performances and Harbajhan inserted match fixing as a reply back. below the belt comment in a taunt which was about cricket only
 
Any evidence to back that up or did you just pull it out of your behind?

There is no evidence of Muhammad Siraj or Muhammad Shami ever praying salat, on the ground or elsewhere in the presence of their Hindu teammates. It will become a huge controversy in India if some one takes a picture of them praying salat there and share it with media. We are talking about a country in which Muhammad Shami is asked to migrate to Pakistan simply for not performing well in one match.
 
What is the meaning of the statement "Kuffar toot gaya"?

I would assume based on what others are saying, that it means "the jinx has been broken".

I see no reason someone like Bazid Khan would indulge in derogatory remarks towards members of another religion.

Next time, he should be careful of the words he uses. That word has dangerous double meanings.
 
If Waqar ever returns as a coach, bowling or otherwise, I will convert to Hindu and start supporting India.
I will also promote a one nation theory

PK cricket is not predictable, so bro just be careful with your predictions. Looking at thr behaviour and toxicity of these guys, Is it any wonder why with all our talent in the 90s we fell to pieces when Kaptaan left.
 
There is no evidence of Muhammad Siraj or Muhammad Shami ever praying salat, on the ground or elsewhere in the presence of their Hindu teammates. It will become a huge controversy in India if some one takes a picture of them praying salat there and share it with media. We are talking about a country in which Muhammad Shami is asked to migrate to Pakistan simply for not performing well in one match.

So you want them to do dikhawa to show you
 
Waqar Younis clarifies his comments from yesterday

Those of you who know me know I'm not the type to talk about religion or religious issues, and I've often stayed away from it.

What I said wasn't meant to be a sly on anyone, and if it was I apologise for what I said. I got excited in the moment with seeing Rizwan praying and said things I shouldn't have.

Those who've been offended I would also like to apologise to them.

Quote via A Sports just now.
 
Good, he admitted and apologized for it. Move on now.
 
Stupid comment by Waqar. Indian players would have seen namaz been observed million's of time in India. These religious nutcases on both sides are not helping the Indo-Pak relationship one bit. The match was between India and Pakistan not Hindu's versus Muslim's.
 
someone was complaining not enough spice nowadays b/w Ind Pak rivalry... well u wanted it u got it....
 
There is no evidence of Muhammad Siraj or Muhammad Shami ever praying salat, on the ground or elsewhere in the presence of their Hindu teammates. It will become a huge controversy in India if some one takes a picture of them praying salat there and share it with media. We are talking about a country in which Muhammad Shami is asked to migrate to Pakistan simply for not performing well in one match.

There is also no evidence of Hashim Amla or Moeen Ali ever doing salat on the field in the middle of a cricket match after a fifty or a hundred. Are they not muslim enough to you?

In fact, I haven't seen many Bangladeshi cricketers doing the salat on milestones either. In fact, the only team that I've observed doing regular religious rituals on the field during a cricket match is Pakistan, which is of course their right. But not all cricket teams are like that, even ones with devout muslims like Amla or Moeen.

There's a huge cultural difference between India and Pakistan, which you fail to recognise. Religion is an ever present phenomenon in the Pakistani society and whatever happens on the field is only a manifestation of that. The Pakistani team can do a group sajdah and namaz on the field as a team because Pakistan is an islamic country that was ideologically formed for the cause of Islam. Therefore the Pakistani cricket team is as much a representative of Islam as it is for their country. Sure there's Islamophobia in India but by the rule of law, India is supposed to be a secular country and therefore its cricket team should not be seen as representing any religion in particular, but as a representative of people of all religions and communities. It would not be hard for the Hindu cricketers to do similar religious symbolism on the field after a victory but then they would be roundly criticised by many people and rightly so too because that would alienate the muslim players in our national team.

Pakistan doesn't have this problem because all of its players are almost always muslim and there's hardly any diversity in their cricket team unlike say India or Bangladesh. Pakistan is well within their rights to do group sajdahs, but what I would say though is that if a non muslim player ever gets to play for Pakistan by chance, he would feel a bit awkward and lonely when these group sajdahs happen after victories. It's why the Indian team doesn't wear its religion on its sleeve on the field. I'm sure almost all the hindu, muslim and sikh players in the Indian team pray in their respective homes, they just don't feel the need to do religious rituals on the field to advertise their faiths, like most other teams out there.
 
There is no shortage of brain-dead people from either sides. So many Farigh people have saturated the land of subcontinent and the worst are who bring religion in every conversation.
 
waqar is a first rate duffer, how this man blagged his way into 3 coaching stints with pakistan beggars belief.
 
Waqar shouldn't have said it but its being over analysed. It's a non-issue that has been blown out of proportion. He should apologise profusely and that should be the end of it.

Prasad's comment and Sehwag's comments are worse but will get swept under the carpet.

Also its a bit rich that this criticism is coming from Harsha Bhogle from cricbuzz. Didnt they deliberately stop covering Pakistan matches?
 
There is also no evidence of Hashim Amla or Moeen Ali ever doing salat on the field in the middle of a cricket match after a fifty or a hundred. Are they not muslim enough to you?

In fact, I haven't seen many Bangladeshi cricketers doing the salat on milestones either. In fact, the only team that I've observed doing regular religious rituals on the field during a cricket match is Pakistan, which is of course their right. But not all cricket teams are like that, even ones with devout muslims like Amla or Moeen.

There's a huge cultural difference between India and Pakistan, which you fail to recognise. Religion is an ever present phenomenon in the Pakistani society and whatever happens on the field is only a manifestation of that. The Pakistani team can do a group sajdah and namaz on the field as a team because Pakistan is an islamic country that was ideologically formed for the cause of Islam. Therefore the Pakistani cricket team is as much a representative of Islam as it is for their country. Sure there's Islamophobia in India but by the rule of law, India is supposed to be a secular country and therefore its cricket team should not be seen as representing any religion in particular, but as a representative of people of all religions and communities. It would not be hard for the Hindu cricketers to do similar religious symbolism on the field after a victory but then they would be roundly criticised by many people and rightly so too because that would alienate the muslim players in our national team.

Pakistan doesn't have this problem because all of its players are almost always muslim and there's hardly any diversity in their cricket team unlike say India or Bangladesh. Pakistan is well within their rights to do group sajdahs, but what I would say though is that if a non muslim player ever gets to play for Pakistan by chance, he would feel a bit awkward and lonely when these group sajdahs happen after victories. It's why the Indian team doesn't wear its religion on its sleeve on the field. I'm sure almost all the hindu, muslim and sikh players in the Indian team pray in their respective homes, they just don't feel the need to do religious rituals on the field to advertise their faiths, like most other teams out there.

I often wonder how much of this overt religiosity by Pakistani cricketers is for show to the Pakistani public

We rarely see Bangladeshis or Afghan guys do such stuff or for that matter guys like Amla, Moeen & Aadil Rashid
 
I often wonder how much of this overt religiosity by Pakistani cricketers is for show to the Pakistani public

We rarely see Bangladeshis or Afghan guys do such stuff or for that matter guys like Amla, Moeen & Aadil Rashid

Why does it pain you guys so much what Pakistanis do or don't do? The players are entitled to celebrate on the field however they see fit. Whether they want to bow and show thanks to their lord or not is entirely up to them. It takes like 20 seconds to celebrate a milestone in this way,

The only people I see get annoyed by Pakistanis doing the sajdah are Indians.

Maybe that's the point Waqar was trying to make?
 
waqar is a first rate duffer, how this man blagged his way into 3 coaching stints with pakistan beggars belief.

and multiple commentary stints while barely being able to string a few words together.

He is a master blagger.
 
I'm not going to quote Waqar, but he is genuinely apologetic about this.

Without being mean to the guy, he’s not the brightest. I can imagine him saying something like this and not thinking what the words even mean.

Whilst there is nothing to justify the clumsy language from Waqar, it should also be remembered that ex-Indian cricketers are notorious for saying some seriously disrespectful things about Pakistan. So Harsha Bhogle, if you’re going to start a twitter thread about how disappointed you are in Waqar, do the same every day when Ghautam Gambhir and his opening partner Sehwag open their mouths.
 
Why does it pain you guys so much what Pakistanis do or don't do? The players are entitled to celebrate on the field however they see fit. Whether they want to bow and show thanks to their lord or not is entirely up to them. It takes like 20 seconds to celebrate a milestone in this way,

The only people I see get annoyed by Pakistanis doing the sajdah are Indians.

Maybe that's the point Waqar was trying to make?

Nobody actually cares about it, but when Pakistanis like [MENTION=154193]Muhammad Kaleem[/MENTION] argue that Shami and Siraj don't pray because they are not allowed to observe religious rituals on the field by their hindu teammates, one has to call out the bulls***.
 
Nobody actually cares about it, but when Pakistanis like [MENTION=154193]Muhammad Kaleem[/MENTION] argue that Shami and Siraj don't pray because they are not allowed to observe religious rituals on the field by their hindu teammates, one has to call out the bulls***.

Bro you guys are going nuts about a Pakistani doing a sajda. I would shudder to think what would happen to an Indian player who prayed an Islamic prayer on the pitch.

Not by the team mates who genuinley seem like a supportive bunch but by your media and fans.
 
I would assume based on what others are saying, that it means "the jinx has been broken".

I see no reason someone like Bazid Khan would indulge in derogatory remarks towards members of another religion.

Next time, he should be careful of the words he uses. That word has dangerous double meanings.

It has no dangerous double meanings.

Its only dangerous to trouble makers.
 
I often wonder how much of this overt religiosity by Pakistani cricketers is for show to the Pakistani public

We rarely see Bangladeshis or Afghan guys do such stuff or for that matter guys like Amla, Moeen & Aadil Rashid

this post shows you dont even watch cricket and making up post here.

I follow Afhgan cricket and many times the Afghan players offer salat in the ground. They often pray during the innings break quickly before the innings start or during drinks break.
 
There is also no evidence of Hashim Amla or Moeen Ali ever doing salat on the field in the middle of a cricket match after a fifty or a hundred. Are they not muslim enough to you?

In fact, I haven't seen many Bangladeshi cricketers doing the salat on milestones either. In fact, the only team that I've observed doing regular religious rituals on the field during a cricket match is Pakistan, which is of course their right. But not all cricket teams are like that, even ones with devout muslims like Amla or Moeen.

There's a huge cultural difference between India and Pakistan, which you fail to recognise. Religion is an ever present phenomenon in the Pakistani society and whatever happens on the field is only a manifestation of that. The Pakistani team can do a group sajdah and namaz on the field as a team because Pakistan is an islamic country that was ideologically formed for the cause of Islam. Therefore the Pakistani cricket team is as much a representative of Islam as it is for their country. Sure there's Islamophobia in India but by the rule of law, India is supposed to be a secular country and therefore its cricket team should not be seen as representing any religion in particular, but as a representative of people of all religions and communities. It would not be hard for the Hindu cricketers to do similar religious symbolism on the field after a victory but then they would be roundly criticised by many people and rightly so too because that would alienate the muslim players in our national team.

Pakistan doesn't have this problem because all of its players are almost always muslim and there's hardly any diversity in their cricket team unlike say India or Bangladesh. Pakistan is well within their rights to do group sajdahs, but what I would say though is that if a non muslim player ever gets to play for Pakistan by chance, he would feel a bit awkward and lonely when these group sajdahs happen after victories. It's why the Indian team doesn't wear its religion on its sleeve on the field. I'm sure almost all the hindu, muslim and sikh players in the Indian team pray in their respective homes, they just don't feel the need to do religious rituals on the field to advertise their faiths, like most other teams out there.

There is a difference between salat( obligatory) and sajda( which is part of salat) but not obligatory when you score a few runs or take a few wickets and mostly done by PK cricketers to show their " piety", although for non muslims the confusion is understandable. You can off course give shukria to Allah without a Sajda but with us PKs, we wear our religion on our sleeves in public, but as the antics of many have shown anything goes in private.
 
Bro you guys are going nuts about a Pakistani doing a sajda. I would shudder to think what would happen to an Indian player who prayed an Islamic prayer on the pitch.

Not by the team mates who genuinley seem like a supportive bunch but by your media and fans.

Erm, where did this happen. Nobody is criticising Rizwan's sajdah. People are only criticising Waqar's comment that he felt proud that Rizwan did what he did in front of the Hindus. The objections, if any to Rizwan's sajdahs, that I've read here have come from Pakistanis rather than Indians.
 
this post shows you dont even watch cricket and making up post here.

I follow Afhgan cricket and many times the Afghan players offer salat in the ground. They often pray during the innings break quickly before the innings start or during drinks break.

So two countries with issues with radical clerics in political power ? Compare to Bangladesh
 
There is a difference between salat( obligatory) and sajda( which is part of salat) but not obligatory when you score a few runs or take a few wickets and mostly done by PK cricketers to show their " piety", although for non muslims the confusion is understandable. You can off course give shukria to Allah without a Sajda but with us PKs, we wear our religion on our sleeves in public, but as the antics of many have shown anything goes in private.

Tbh I've not seen Hashim Amla or Moeen Ali or Adil Rashid doing even the sajdah on the field.

Not saying that Rizwan shouldn't do, but just saying that doing so (on the field) doesn't seem a universal phenomenon among muslims outside Pakistan.
 
A muslim reading prayers in front of hindus is a common sight in India Waqar Bhai, maybe it's quite rare for someone who lives in Pakistan.
There is a mosque inside the premises of Krishna's birthplace temple.

There's also Temples and Gurdwaras in Pakistan so I don't get that point at all.
 
There is also no evidence of Hashim Amla or Moeen Ali ever doing salat on the field in the middle of a cricket match after a fifty or a hundred. Are they not muslim enough to you?

In fact, I haven't seen many Bangladeshi cricketers doing the salat on milestones either. In fact, the only team that I've observed doing regular religious rituals on the field during a cricket match is Pakistan, which is of course their right. But not all cricket teams are like that, even ones with devout muslims like Amla or Moeen.

There's a huge cultural difference between India and Pakistan, which you fail to recognise. Religion is an ever present phenomenon in the Pakistani society and whatever happens on the field is only a manifestation of that. The Pakistani team can do a group sajdah and namaz on the field as a team because Pakistan is an islamic country that was ideologically formed for the cause of Islam. Therefore the Pakistani cricket team is as much a representative of Islam as it is for their country. Sure there's Islamophobia in India but by the rule of law, India is supposed to be a secular country and therefore its cricket team should not be seen as representing any religion in particular, but as a representative of people of all religions and communities. It would not be hard for the Hindu cricketers to do similar religious symbolism on the field after a victory but then they would be roundly criticised by many people and rightly so too because that would alienate the muslim players in our national team.

Pakistan doesn't have this problem because all of its players are almost always muslim and there's hardly any diversity in their cricket team unlike say India or Bangladesh. Pakistan is well within their rights to do group sajdahs, but what I would say though is that if a non muslim player ever gets to play for Pakistan by chance, he would feel a bit awkward and lonely when these group sajdahs happen after victories. It's why the Indian team doesn't wear its religion on its sleeve on the field. I'm sure almost all the hindu, muslim and sikh players in the Indian team pray in their respective homes, they just don't feel the need to do religious rituals on the field to advertise their faiths, like most other teams out there.

You're confusing Sajda with Salat.

That's where the issues starts and ends.

Also may I point out Waqar saying what he did has also shown the thoughts of many on here with their responses.
 
Tbh I've not seen Hashim Amla or Moeen Ali or Adil Rashid doing even the sajdah on the field.

Not saying that Rizwan shouldn't do, but just saying that doing so (on the field) doesn't seem a universal phenomenon among muslims outside Pakistan.

Rizwan looks genuine and him doing Salat was what he would normally do, and i know Moeen Ali and i have seen him reading Salat at cricket grounds in some corner but he and Amla dont need to show their piety with Sajdas.
 
I am a Pakistani living abroad. It true a lot of people will not agree to what he said but a good portion of Pakistani and Indians are basically the same kind of xenophobic, religious hate mongers. They would both say, look we are fair and other party is a religious fanatic. Look we treat our minorities and the others dont. In reality, minorities in both countries suffer, anti hindu/any other religion than islam sentiment is quite common in Pakistan without acknowledging that is is there. While at the same time, India suffers form anti-muslim sentiment. Civil society of India is a bit bigger in terms of percentage and more secular than civil society of Pakistan but just by a small bit. The countries are quite the same. Insensitive comments like from waqar could just come from some bjp loving player in India against Pakistan's defeat and noone in India would notice. We are all the same. Just admit the truth and then try to improve it.
 
It's like some forgotten what Prasad tweeted and what Ghambir has said over the years.

If you're going to pitch the blame on Waqar and inturn Pakistan do us all a favour and also do the same for those two aswell, otherwise you're just as ignorant as Waqar's comments.
 
Not surprised to hear these kind of words coming from an illiterate serial bottler and failure.
 
He said he was happy that Rizwan did namaz standing in between the hindus. Not sure why he found it so special.

Probably because Of Kashmir and the treatment of Muslims there as well as many such incidents in India itself. However it has no place on the cricket field or cricketing fraternity at large especially given the sensitive nature of ties between the countries.
 
I am a Pakistani living abroad. It true a lot of people will not agree to what he said but a good portion of Pakistani and Indians are basically the same kind of xenophobic, religious hate mongers. They would both say, look we are fair and other party is a religious fanatic. Look we treat our minorities and the others dont. In reality, minorities in both countries suffer, anti hindu/any other religion than islam sentiment is quite common in Pakistan without acknowledging that is is there. While at the same time, India suffers form anti-muslim sentiment. Civil society of India is a bit bigger in terms of percentage and more secular than civil society of Pakistan but just by a small bit. The countries are quite the same. Insensitive comments like from waqar could just come from some bjp loving player in India against Pakistan's defeat and noone in India would notice. We are all the same. Just admit the truth and then try to improve it.

To some extent I agree.
Religion has been used as a tool by the wolves in the sheep's skin on both side of the border, to pit people against each other and take political advantage.

However, if it was some remote villagers then one would say, it's not surprising.
But coming this from someone's of Waqar's experience who has travelled the world and lives in Australia?

It's more of failure on the board's management that they had let this imbecilic mental level of a person to be placed on such a high post for so long?
 
It's like some forgotten what Prasad tweeted and what Ghambir has said over the years.

If you're going to pitch the blame on Waqar and inturn Pakistan do us all a favour and also do the same for those two aswell, otherwise you're just as ignorant as Waqar's comments.

Gambhir and Sehwag are recognised as hindutva cheerleaders within India itself by many people. Waqar seems to be a new revelation. Waqar always came across as a sensible person on the outside.
 
Probably because Of Kashmir and the treatment of Muslims there as well as many such incidents in India itself. However it has no place on the cricket field or cricketing fraternity at large especially given the sensitive nature of ties between the countries.

There's religious intolerance in Pakistan too. Would it make it okay for an Indian cricketer to say the same thing in reverse against Pakistan?
 
Disappointed comments from Waqar. No need to bring religion into this. In any case, Islam is about peace. Islam does not teach us to provoke other religions.

He should apologise and stick to talking about cricket.

As for that idiot Amir - his twitter rant with Harbajhan was a disgrace and he came out of it second best. The guy is an embarrasment and the last person Pakistanis need to speak on their behalf.
 
There's religious intolerance in Pakistan too. Would it make it okay for an Indian cricketer to say the same thing in reverse against Pakistan?

A lot of the country and media already does. So, no, it wouldn’t be surprising but probably not ok just as Waqar’s statement wasn’t but I can understand his sentiments.
 
We have some stupid thick heads who never think before opening their mouths.

Religion should be a personal matter.

I know many will disagree here but even on a sports field it should be kept to a bare minimum.

With comments like these you are only going to fuel the right wing government across the boarder and the idiots on social media.
 
A lot of the country and media already does. So, no, it wouldn’t be surprising but probably not ok just as Waqar’s statement wasn’t but I can understand his sentiments.

I'm not talking about the Indian media which is garbage and routinely indulges in Islamophobia. I'm talking about Indian cricketers, who I don't remember making any comments directed against muslims or Islam specifically. Whereas the likes of Afridi, Tanveer et al have made religious comments directed against Hindus or Hinduism.
 
We have some stupid thick heads who never think before opening their mouths.

Religion should be a personal matter.

I know many will disagree here but even on a sports field it should be kept to a bare minimum.

With comments like these you are only going to fuel the right wing government across the boarder and the idiots on social media.

Talking about idiots, what Waqar said, is that not right wing? You do know that Pakistan as a country is deeply right (conservative) wing (more so than BJP/RSS in India or republicans in USA)
 
I'm not talking about the Indian media which is garbage and routinely indulges in Islamophobia. I'm talking about Indian cricketers, who I don't remember making any comments directed against muslims or Islam specifically. Whereas the likes of Afridi, Tanveer et al have made religious comments directed against Hindus or Hinduism.

We can see that Indian cricketers are far more street smart and more groomed. I hope Pakistan players, ex-players and other staff can carry themselves more graciously but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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