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[VIDEOS] Ravindra Jadeja announces retirement from T20Is [Post Updated #258]

Sir Alex said:
As a batsman yes. But not as an all-rounder. Pollock gives that definite edge being a strike bowler plus a very competent batsman.
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Pollock has like 16 5-fers in 100+ tests. He was a strike bowler in 90s but cum 2000s, he was playing second fiddle to Ntini also. As a batsman also, his stats are highly inflated by many not outs and has barely two hundreds. He is a level below Kallis as all rounder. Kallis as all rounder is one of the best ever.
 
There is no metric to measure whether a player walks into any XI logic in its weaker suit. The reason being most players won't walk into strong XI in its weaker suit anyways.

The simple criteria is whether a player is contributing enough in its weaker suit to qualify it as all rounder on.

For me, all these names are all rounders:

Sobers
Imran
Hadlee
Kallis
Miller
Ashwin
S Pollock
Botham
Kapil
Tony Grieg
Cairns
Jadeja
Shakib
Stokes
Flintoff

What doesn't qualify as all rounder? Steve Waugh for example - 160 tests, Bowl AVG 37 Wasim Akram 104 tests, Bat AVG 22
 
And to think Indians used to make fun of him not so long ago… Sir Jadeja & whatnot?
 
dildilpak said:
And to think Indians used to make fun of him not so long ago… Sir Jadeja & whatnot?
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Mostly because of his world T20 flops. He cost us some crucial games early in his career. I still don't rate him as a good T20 player although he would be better than what we carried to world T20. In the last 5 years his batting has been a breath of fresh air. His bowling in Tests was always decent.
 
He is combo of great spinner, batsman & fielder all in one. Don't think we have had player with such ability in test cricket history.
 
Ab Fan said:
There is no metric to measure whether a player walks into any XI logic in its weaker suit. The reason being most players won't walk into strong XI in its weaker suit anyways.

The simple criteria is whether a player is contributing enough in its weaker suit to qualify it as all rounder on.

For me, all these names are all rounders:

Sobers
Imran
Hadlee
Kallis
Miller
Ashwin
S Pollock
Botham
Kapil
Tony Grieg
Cairns
Jadeja
Shakib
Stokes
Flintoff
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This is also the list of 15 best international test all rounders the game has seen(not necessarily in that order), not counting the ones from amateur era here or those who didn't played enough international cricket for whatever reasons.
 
Ab Fan said:
There is no metric to measure whether a player walks into any XI logic in its weaker suit.
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Of course there is, the average of the "weaker suit". So the only players who could get in to a test side for either batting or bowling are Miller, Sobers, Botham, Imran, Kapil and Kallis.
 
Kallis doesn't even have 2 wickets per Test

was more of a 5th bowling option

Would make most XI with batting though
 
Robert said:
Of course there is, the average of the "weaker suit". So the only players who could get in to a test side for either batting or bowling are Miller, Sobers, Botham, Imran, Kapil and Kallis.
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Using this logic, I would add Stokes, Jadeja and Shakib, Flintoff, Cairns as well.

This basically means leaving out S Pollock, Hadlee and Ashwin who actually were way superior in strong suit and not much inferior in their weaker suit. It is unfair to put a boundary line for a weaker suit on these guys even though they definitely deserve to be in the league of great all rounders and were superior cricketers to the ones I mentioned in my first point.
 
Saurav said:
Kallis doesn't even have 2 wickets per Test

was more of a 5th bowling option

Would make most XI with batting though
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That's because he played 166 tests. Had he retired with 70 tests which is still enough, he would have qualified with your criteria then. So, basically it means he played from 70 to 168 test to not qualify for all rounder category? That doesn't sound well.

My point here is that when someone plays a lot of tests, the runs per innings and wickets per tests will go down even though they were capable players. If you don't agree, compare Kapil's runs per innings with others. He would also not qualify even as batsman.
 
Ab Fan said:
That's because he played 166 tests. Had he retired with 70 tests which is still enough, he would have qualified with your criteria then. So, basically it means he played from 70 to 168 test to not qualify for all rounder category? That doesn't sound well.

My point here is that when someone plays a lot of tests, the runs per innings and wickets per tests will go down even though they were capable players. If you don't agree, compare Kapil's runs per innings with others. He would also not qualify even as batsman.
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He had 155 wickets after 73 Tests. Still only slightly better than 2 WPM.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround

Therafter his batting went to another level but bowling suffered

Cricketers are judged on entirety of their careers. Kapil's batting returns were similar throughout career expect decline at end.
 
Saurav said:
He had 155 wickets after 73 Tests. Still only slightly better than 2 WPM.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround

Therafter his batting went to another level but bowling suffered.
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That's good enough because we are talking about his weaker suit. You can't compare his bowling with Botham or Kapil because that was their stronger suit. He is a batting A/R and close to 300 wickets in weaker suit is in itself an achievement. Look at Stokes now, his wickets per match is getting lower as he continues playing more and more tests. This is usual.

None of the other careers went as far as Kallis so there will be phases where priorities will change based on how the game is changing. If Tendulkar for example had 350 test wickets in 200 tests, he would have qualified as A/R too.
 
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Looking purely at wickets in case of Kallis is as bad as saying Harbhajan is an ATG because he has 400 plus wickets.
 
As of now yes, even ahead of Shakib IMO who gets more coverage because the BD team has fewer quality players, if Jadeja was in the same set-up he'd have more 5fers simply because he wouldn't have the Bumrah's, Shami's & co grabbing the wickets for example.

I think Jadeja is under-rated because he's less impactful in the shorter formats and also because he bloomed late (even though he always had potential.)

Perhaps if he has an "Imran Khan like peak", who averaged +50 with the bat/-20 with the ball in his last 10 years, he'd be considered ATG but as of now I think he's an "Indian great", of course not bad at all either, and as some have already noted it's also due to the fact that there aren't that many spin bolwing ARs, probably because unless it's legspin/doosra freaks it's not considered as lethal as fast bowling.

Just look the SR difference between a "good" spinner and between a "good" fast bowler, you'll rarely have spinners rip through teams unless home conditions, not many 10fers, so less "impressive graphically". For me the "image" plays a lot in the appreciation.
 
Ab Fan said:
That's good enough because we are talking about his weaker suit. You can't compare his bowling with Botham or Kapil because that was their stronger suit. He is a batting A/R and close to 300 wickets in weaker suit is in itself an achievement. Look at Stokes now, his wickets per match is getting lower as he continues playing more and more tests. This is usual.

None of the other careers went as far as Kallis so there will be phases where priorities will change based on how the game is changing. If Tendulkar for example had 350 test wickets in 200 tests, he would have qualified as A/R too.
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no he wouldn't

AR is someone who can be impactful even with their weaker skill. Kallis wasn't impactful with ball for majority of his career.
 
Saurav said:
no he wouldn't

AR is someone who can be impactful even with their weaker skill. Kallis wasn't impactful with ball for majority of his career.
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What is impact? How was Kallis not impactful? Kallis had five 5-fers inspite of playing in a strong bowling attack. Would you say the same if Tendulkar had taken 390 wickets in his 200 tests instead of picking say, 50 wickets? I highly doubt.

Using your criteria, Kapil for example has similar stats as Daniel Vettori with bat. So, he basically underachieved big time there with bat. Even with bowl, after playing 134 tests, he got 434 wickets. Thats hardly worth anything when compared with Botham, Imran, Hadlee.

So, if I use your criteria of number of innings per game, Kapil himself wasn't very impactful in his strongest suit if we strict our discussion to tests only. India faced several series embarrassment in 1980s in tests, thankfully they also got overshadowed because he won the WC in 1983.
 
Ab Fan said:
What is impact? How was Kallis not impactful? Kallis had five 5-fers inspite of playing in a strong bowling attack. Would you say the same if Tendulkar had taken 390 wickets in his 200 tests instead of picking say, 50 wickets? I highly doubt.

Using your criteria, Kapil for example has similar stats as Daniel Vettori with bat. So, he basically underachieved big time there with bat. Even with bowl, after playing 134 tests, he got 434 wickets. Thats hardly worth anything when compared with Botham, Imran, Hadlee.

So, if I use your criteria of number of innings per game, Kapil himself wasn't very impactful in his strongest suit if we strict our discussion to tests only. India faced several series embarrassment in 1980s in tests, thankfully they also got overshadowed because he won the WC in 1983.
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Five 5fers in 166 Tests is not much.

Vettori's stronger suit wasn't good enough itself

Kapil had good WPM until the decline in the end plus 30 avg with bat with tons in SA,Eng and WI. Obviously it would be better for Botham and Hadlee given the conditions they mostly bowled in. Hadlee and Imran were better bowlers anyway.
 
Ab Fan said:
What is impact? How was Kallis not impactful? Kallis had five 5-fers inspite of playing in a strong bowling attack. Would you say the same if Tendulkar had taken 390 wickets in his 200 tests instead of picking say, 50 wickets? I highly doubt.

Using your criteria, Kapil for example has similar stats as Daniel Vettori with bat. So, he basically underachieved big time there with bat. Even with bowl, after playing 134 tests, he got 434 wickets. Thats hardly worth anything when compared with Botham, Imran, Hadlee.

So, if I use your criteria of number of innings per game, Kapil himself wasn't very impactful in his strongest suit if we strict our discussion to tests only. India faced several series embarrassment in 1980s in tests, thankfully they also got overshadowed because he won the WC in 1983.
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Kapil carried on too long so he could pass Hadlee’s record. This messed up his bowling average. He could have cashed in harder with the bat though.

Botham carried on years too long in tests - about twenty tests of junk performance - which make his numbers look like the younger Cairns, though he was better in all three departments than Cairns.
 
Robert said:
I’m more stringent that this.

1950s - Miller

1960s - Sobers

1970s - nobody. Proctor hardly played tests and Greig averages north of 33 with the ball

1980s - Imran, Kapil, Botham

1990s - nobody

2000s - Kallis

2010s - nobody
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Botham is actually mediocre in this list. Seems like a HTB. Averaged 14 with bat and 40 with Ball in West Indies during that time.

Funny how people can be so hypocrites when applying standards to other team's player.
 
Saurav said:
Five 5fers in 166 Tests is not much.

Vettori's stronger suit wasn't good enough itself

Kapil had good WPM until the decline in the end plus 30 avg with bat with tons in SA,Eng and WI. Obviously it would be better for Botham and Hadlee given the conditions they mostly bowled in. Hadlee and Imran were better bowlers anyway.
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Kallis averages 31 with bowl alongwith 290 odd wickets. He is widely regarded as one of the greatest all rounders of all-time. His average is 31 over a large sample. It is not 35-37 that he doesn't qualify.

Even with the most stringent metrics, he qualifies for all rounder. Shaun Pollock might not qualify though if the benchmark set is very strict as his average is highly inflated by plenty of not outs
 
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Best figures for Jadeja in Tests

7/42 vs Aus Delhi 2023
7/48 vs Eng Chennai 2016
6/63 vs Aus Bengaluru 2017
6/138 vs SA Durban 2013
Jadeja's second inngs spell
First 7 overs: 1/36 (ER 5.14)
Last 5.1 overs: 6/6 (ER 1.16)
 
Ravindra Jadeja was the star for India as he claimed seven wickets to bundle out Australia for just 113 on Day 3 of the second Border-Gavaskar Trophy encounter on Sunday. Australia started the day on 61 for the loss of one wicket but a brilliant bowling display from Jadeja and Ravichandran Ashwin put the hosts in a commanding position. Among the seven wickets taken by Jadeja, five were bowled dismissals and it was the first time in around 21 years that a spinner achieved such a feat. Incidentally, the last time a spinner took five bowled dismissals in an innings was compatriot Anil Kumble against South Africa in Joburg in 1992. Overall, Shoaib Akhtar achieved a similar feat against New Zealand in Lahore in 2002.

At lunch, India's score read 14/1, with skipper Rohit Sharma (12*) and Cheteshwar Pujara (1*) at the crease.

Australia resumed their innings at 61/1, with Travis Head 39*, Marnus Labuschagne 16* seeking to build on the visitors' lead.

Ashwin struck for the hosts early in the session, dismissing a dangerous Head for 43 off 46 balls and reducing Australia to 65/2.

The duo of Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne then took the innings forward, adding 20 more runs before Ashwin sent back Smith for just 9. Australia was 85/3 in 19 overs.

Following this, Jadeja-Ashwin ripped apart the rest of the Aussie batting attack, with the ball keeping low and shooting off the surface.

The Aussies were eventually bundled out for 113 runs in just 31.1 overs. Only Head and Labuschagne could reach double digits.

Jadeja got the lion's share of Aussie wickets, finishing with his career-best figures in Test of 7/42 in 12.1 overs. Ashwin scalped 3/59 in 16 overs.

Chasing 115, India lost KL Rahul for just 1, extending his lean patch in the red-ball format. Nathan Lyon had him caught behind by wicketkeeper Alex Carey. The Indian score read 6/1 in 1.1 overs.

Rohit and Pujara then took India through to lunch without any further damage.

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Apart from being a world class all format spinner and arguably the best fielder in the world m, he’s also become a very reliable batter down the order for India. This is a guy who’s who’s genuinely worked on his craft over the years to earn all this respect and fame. I also consider him the style icon in the team. He’s totally morphed into a different individual if you compare the present day Jadeja to the rookie Jadeja.
 
Yeah he's made a good career for himself by performing in 80% of home tests under ultra spinning conditions.

Averages 19 at home and 35 away with the ball. That's decent numbers if your home/away games are close to 50%. But not if home tests are almost double compared to away tests.
 
Energy said:
Yeah he's made a good career for himself by performing in 80% of home tests under ultra spinning conditions.

Averages 19 at home and 35 away with the ball. That's decent numbers if your home/away games are close to 50%. But not if home tests are almost double compared to away tests.
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Away numbers would have been better had he played BD, WI, SL more. Unfortunately due to injuries and playing all formats, he couldn't. Otherwise averages in Aus and SA with bowl are astonishing.
 
Energy said:
Yeah he's made a good career for himself by performing in 80% of home tests under ultra spinning conditions.

Averages 19 at home and 35 away with the ball. That's decent numbers if your home/away games are close to 50%. But not if home tests are almost double compared to away tests.
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35 isn’t a very bad bowling average abroad for a touring Indian spinners considering they don’t get the advantage of eating off the tail these days, a responsibility well looked after by Bumrah, Shami, Siraj.
Don’t think any Indian fan ever claimed Jadeja to be in the league of elite spinners even though his numbers are up there. We all understand he’s a different level spinner at home. Where he gets his respect is by making up for deficiencies with the bat and in the field.
 
On Home condition Jadeja has astonishing numbers
Only 3 other players are ahead of him in that regard , 2 of which are batting AR

Player Span Mat Runs Bat Av 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5W Ave Diff
GS Sobers (WI) 1954-1974 44 4075 66.8 14 107 34.12 1 32.68
JH Kallis (SA) 1995-2013 88 7035 56.73 23 165 30.61 2 26.12
Imran Khan (PAK) 1976-1992 38 1540 45.29 3 163 19.2 10 26.08
RA Jadeja (IND) 2012-2023 38 1553 41.97 2 189 19.81 10 22.15
N Kapil Dev (IND) 1978-1994 65 2810 36.97 5 219 26.49 11 10.47
CL Cairns (NZ) 1991-2004 31 1860 37.2 4 109 28.35 5 8.84
Shakib Al Hasan (BAN) 2007-2022 43 2841 39.45 2 157 30.94 14 8.51
R Ashwin (IND) 2011-2023 53 1682 29 3 326 20.85 25 8.14
SM Pollock (SA) 1995-2008 59 1922 29.12 1 235 21.08 9 8.03
IT Botham (ENG) 1977-1992 59 2969 34.92 8 226 27.54 17 7.38
MH Mankad (IND) 1948-1959 23 1128 33.17 2 103 26.53 4 6.64
Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ) 1973-1990 43 1501 29.43 1 201 22.96 15 6.47
Wasim Akram (PAK) 1985-2001 41 1116 25.36 1 154 22.22 8 3.13
WPUJC Vaas (SL) 1994-2009 56 1533 26.89 1 180 26.32 5 0.56
MG Johnson (AUS) 2007-2015 34 1009 25.87 0 171 25.47 7 0.39
MM Ali (ENG) 2014-2021 35 1764 33.28 3 104 33.48 4 -0.19
A Flintoff (ENG) 1998-2009 40 2007 35.21 3 109 36.11 2 -0.89
HH Streak (ZIM) 1994-2005 33 1102 23.95 1 120 25.99 4 -2.03
A Kumble (IND) 1993-2008 63 1340 21.61 0 350 24.88 25 -3.27
DL Vettori (NZ) 1997-2012 57 2470 33.37 4 159 37.11 6 -3.73
SCJ Broad (ENG) 2008-2022 92 2417 21.97 1 370 25.89 13 -3.92
R Illingworth (ENG) 1958-1973 43 1228 22.74 2 102 27.14 3 -4.4
R Benaud (AUS) 1952-1964 29 1078 23.95 0 104 30.74 5 -6.78
SK Warne (AUS) 1992-2007 69 1533 19.16 0 319 26.39 15 -7.23
Harbhajan Singh (IND) 1998-2013 55 1047 18.36 2 265 28.76 18 -10.4
 
In Test cricket,

Bowling :

Ashwin - 8.5
Jadeja - 7.5
Kapil - 8

Batting :

Ashwin - 5
Jadeja - 6
Kapil - 6
 
If Jadeja can maintain/improve his stats after playing another 20-30 test he'll end his career as a test great. Amazing stats for an all-rounder.
 
Whom would u have in the team if u were to have one spin allrounder

Jadeja
Ashwin
Sobers
Shakib

In last three years , I would say jadeja has pretty much overtaken every spin all rounder . He comes ahead of shakib as he is a better batsman and better fielder. Haven’t watched Gary sobers but jadeja is now as good or better than sobers.

India is lucky to have jadeja and shastri - jadeja clone in sane team besides ashwin . Rare to have one good all rounder. To have three - two all time greats and one who has just started the greatness journey at same time makes the best spin bowling attack to visit india last 10 years look ordinary.
 
India all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja has progressed seven places to ninth after his 10-wicket match haul in the second Test in Delhi, the first time that he is in the top 10 since September 2019. His spin partner Ravichandran Ashwin has moved to second place while other India spinner Axar Patel’s late-order heroics have pushed him into the top five for all-rounders.
 
Jadeja needs to continue his form for another couple of years. That will surely give him place in the All Time Test XI of India. Currently Ashwin is ahead of him.

1. Gavaskar
2. Sehwag
3. Dravid
4. Tendulkar
5. Kohli *
6. Pant (w)
7. Kapil
8. Ashwin
9. Kumble
10. Zaheer
11. Bumrah

Shami can also be part of this team. He needs to take 300+ wickets with the same average.
 
Unleashed said:
Botham is actually mediocre in this list. Seems like a HTB. Averaged 14 with bat and 40 with Ball in West Indies during that time.

Funny how people can be so hypocrites when applying standards to other team's player.
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Botham was quite good in india so not a home track bully.
 
anoop said:
Botham was quite good in india so not a home track bully.
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Botham good years were till 1985 after that he regressed.

Botham Span Mat Runs Bat Av 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5W Ave Diff
Full 1977-1992 102 5200 33.54 14 383 28.4 27 5.14
Peak 1977-1985 79 4409 36.13 13 343 26.37 25 9.76
in Australia 1978-1983 14 748 29.92 1 60 27.78 2 2.13
in England 1977-1985 46 2551 36.44 8 209 25.36 17 11.07
in India 1980-1982 7 554 61.55 2 30 25.53 3 36.02
in New Zealand 1978-1984 6 438 54.75 2 24 27.7 3 27.04
in Pakistan 1984-1984 1 32 16 0 2 45 0 -28.99
in Sri Lanka 1982-1982 1 13 13 0 3 21.66 0 -8.66
in West Indies 1981-1981 4 73 10.42 0 15 32.8 0 -22.37
home 1977-1985 46 2551 36.44 8 209 25.36 17 11.07
away 1978-1984 33 1858 35.73 5 134 27.94 8 7.78
 
Unbiased-Fan said:
Jadeja needs to continue his form for another couple of years. That will surely give him place in the All Time Test XI of India. Currently Ashwin is ahead of him.

1. Gavaskar
2. Sehwag
3. Dravid
4. Tendulkar
5. Kohli *
6. Pant (w)
7. Kapil
8. Ashwin
9. Kumble
10. Zaheer
11. Bumrah

Shami can also be part of this team. He needs to take 300+ wickets with the same average.
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Too early for Bumrah. Let him pick 200 test wickets.
 
Statistically yes. But the fact that Axar Patel averages 11 with the ball tells you about home conditions. His batting is good and his bowling is ideal for home conditions. But looking at him he does not give me ATG vibes. Ashwin does though.
 
jeetu said:
Botham good years were till 1985 after that he regressed.

Botham Span Mat Runs Bat Av 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5W Ave Diff
Full 1977-1992 102 5200 33.54 14 383 28.4 27 5.14
Peak 1977-1985 79 4409 36.13 13 343 26.37 25 9.76
in Australia 1978-1983 14 748 29.92 1 60 27.78 2 2.13
in England 1977-1985 46 2551 36.44 8 209 25.36 17 11.07
in India 1980-1982 7 554 61.55 2 30 25.53 3 36.02
in New Zealand 1978-1984 6 438 54.75 2 24 27.7 3 27.04
in Pakistan 1984-1984 1 32 16 0 2 45 0 -28.99
in Sri Lanka 1982-1982 1 13 13 0 3 21.66 0 -8.66
in West Indies 1981-1981 4 73 10.42 0 15 32.8 0 -22.37
home 1977-1985 46 2551 36.44 8 209 25.36 17 11.07
away 1978-1984 33 1858 35.73 5 134 27.94 8 7.78
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Kapil's bowling also regressed post 1985.

He was having some 240 wickets in 60 tests.

Then he played 80 more tests and picked 190 odd wickets. That's Stokes level in second half.
 
zarak said:
Statistically yes. But the fact that Axar Patel averages 11 with the ball tells you about home conditions. His batting is good and his bowling is ideal for home conditions. But looking at him he does not give me ATG vibes. Ashwin does though.
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If you are talking about all rounders and gonna put Ashwin in ATG category, no reason not to pick Jadeja there. Jadeja has a century and a 6-fer in SENA which Ashwin doesn't have. Both dominant at home.

Purely on bowling, it is understandable because Ashwin has more variations and more arsenals in his kitty compared to Jadeja.
 
When it comes to spin AR this is a important stat to consider.
Top Spin AR away performance against major countries
Player Span Mat Runs Bat Av 100 Wkts Bowl Av 5W Ave Diff
Shakib Al Hasan (BAN) 2007-2022 18 1300 38.23 3 61 31.86 5 6.36
R Benaud (AUS) 1953-1961 34 1123 24.95 3 144 24.35 11 0.6
W Rhodes (ENG) 1903-1930 34 1598 30.15 2 60 33.43 3 -3.28
RA Jadeja (IND) 2013-2022 24 1066 31.35 1 70 34.65 2 -3.3
R Ashwin (IND) 2011-2022 34 1307 24.66 2 125 31.74 5 -7.08
RJ Shastri (IND) 1981-1992 41 2090 34.83 7 77 42.32 1 -7.49
DL Vettori (ICC/NZ) 1997-2014 46 1478 22.73 1 143 38.16 8 -15.42
MM Ali (ENG) 2015-2021 27 1058 23 2 80 42.68 0 -19.68
 
Ab Fan said:
If you are talking about all rounders and gonna put Ashwin in ATG category, no reason not to pick Jadeja there. Jadeja has a century and a 6-fer in SENA which Ashwin doesn't have. Both dominant at home.

Purely on bowling, it is understandable because Ashwin has more variations and more arsenals in his kitty compared to Jadeja.
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True but I cant get over Axar Patels home average. Obviously if someone like him can average 11 then these averages do not mean much. Performance wise Jadeja has the numbers. Maybe its the simplicity of his bowling that makes me undermine him.
 
zarak said:
True but I cant get over Axar Patels home average. Obviously if someone like him can average 11 then these averages do not mean much. Performance wise Jadeja has the numbers. Maybe its the simplicity of his bowling that makes me undermine him.
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Sample is small for Axar. Jadeja and Ashwin home averages are also around 19-20.
 
Ab Fan said:
Kapil's bowling also regressed post 1985.

He was having some 240 wickets in 60 tests.

Then he played 80 more tests and picked 190 odd wickets. That's Stokes level in second half.
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Regarding Kapil , i think he was hell bent on playing every match both ODI and Tests. That resulted in increased Strike Rate and higher average. If he had taken breaks like other fellow AR's his stats would have been much better. My guess would be 330 wickets at 26 around average with 55 SR.
Kapil has decent 1988-89. So his real regress started from 90 onwards.
You can check his year wise breakdown.

Kapil Mat Inns Runs Wkts Avg SR 5w
year 1978 6 11 714 13 54.92 92.6 0
year 1979 17 29 1699 74 22.95 48 5
year 1980 3 6 345 16 21.56 47.1 1
year 1981 9 16 1016 33 30.78 65.2 3
year 1982 9 14 1331 36 36.97 61.3 4
year 1983 18 25 1739 75 23.18 46.2 5
year 1984 4 6 311 5 62.2 139 0
year 1985 7 14 823 28 29.39 63.5 1
year 1986 9 16 632 15 42.13 100.5 0
year 1987 9 17 816 23 35.47 79.8 0
year 1988 4 8 260 11 23.63 54.5 0
year 1989 8 12 763 30 25.43 63.1 2
year 1990 7 12 800 17 47.05 94.7 0
year 1991 2 4 230 9 25.55 60 1
year 1992 7 14 736 25 29.44 88 1
year 1993 8 15 404 15 26.93 83 0
year 1994 4 8 248 9 27.55 54.4 0
 
jeetu said:
Regarding Kapil , i think he was hell bent on playing every match both ODI and Tests. That resulted in increased Strike Rate and higher average. If he had taken breaks like other fellow AR's his stats would have been much better. My guess would be 330 wickets at 26 around average with 55 SR.
Kapil has decent 1988-89. So his real regress started from 90 onwards.
You can check his year wise breakdown.

Kapil Mat Inns Runs Wkts Avg SR 5w
year 1978 6 11 714 13 54.92 92.6 0
year 1979 17 29 1699 74 22.95 48 5
year 1980 3 6 345 16 21.56 47.1 1
year 1981 9 16 1016 33 30.78 65.2 3
year 1982 9 14 1331 36 36.97 61.3 4
year 1983 18 25 1739 75 23.18 46.2 5
year 1984 4 6 311 5 62.2 139 0
year 1985 7 14 823 28 29.39 63.5 1
year 1986 9 16 632 15 42.13 100.5 0
year 1987 9 17 816 23 35.47 79.8 0
year 1988 4 8 260 11 23.63 54.5 0
year 1989 8 12 763 30 25.43 63.1 2
year 1990 7 12 800 17 47.05 94.7 0
year 1991 2 4 230 9 25.55 60 1
year 1992 7 14 736 25 29.44 88 1
year 1993 8 15 404 15 26.93 83 0
year 1994 4 8 248 9 27.55 54.4 0
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1991-1994 numbers aren't bad. 1984,86 and 87 are bad.
 
Ab Fan said:
1991-1994 numbers aren't bad. 1984,86 and 87 are bad.
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For 1984 number i can guess he had a very hectic 1983 , 18 test , WC meaning packed ODI schedule , captaincy pressure after WI drubbing.
92-93 has good average however Strike Rate got pretty worse. Perhaps he was getting too defensive or reduced pace made take wicket more difficult.
 
Chennai Super Kings (CSK) all-rounder Ravindra Jadeja completed 200 wickets in T20 cricket on Wednesday. Jadeja accomplished this feat during his side's Indian Premier League (IPL) match against Rajasthan Royals at the franchise's home arena of MA Chidambaram Stadium in Chennai. In the match, Jadeja was once again the leading bowler for CSK, taking 2/21 in his four overs at an economy rate of 5.20. This has taken his wicket-tally in IPL 2023 to six wickets in four matches, with best bowling figures of 3/20, an average of 13.83, and an economy rate of 6.38.

He is the second-highest wicket-taker for CSK this IPL season behind Tushar Deshpande (seven wickets) and overall at fifth-place, behind Tushar, Rashid Khan (eight wickets, Gujarat Titans), Mark Wood (nine wickets, Lucknow Super Giants) and Yuzvendra Chahal (10 wickets, Rajasthan Royals).

In 296 T20s, Jadeja has 200 wickets at an average of 30.25 and an economy rate of 7.54. His best bowling figures in the format are 5/16.

In 64 T20Is for India, Jadeja has taken 51 wickets at an average of 28.49 and an economy rate of 7.04. His best bowling figures for India in T20Is are 3/15.

The top-five wicket-takers in T20Is are Bangladesh's Shakib al Hasan (136 wickets), New Zealand's Tim Southee (134 wickets), Afghanistan's Rashid Khan (129 wickets), NZ's Ish Sodhi (115 wickets) and Sri Lanka's Lasith Malinga (107 wickets). Yuzvendra Chahal is the highest wicket-taker in T20Is for India with 91 scalps.

In IPL career spanning 15 overs, he has played for teams like CSK, RR and now-defunct Gujarat Lions and Kochi Tuskers Kerala. In 214 matches, he has taken 138 wickets at an average of 30.05 and an economy rate of 7.57. His best bowling figures are 5/16. He is the 11th-highest wicket-taker in IPL.

The top-five wicket-takers in IPL are Dwayne Bravo (183 wickets), Yuzvendra Chahal (176 wickets), Lasith Malinga (170 wickets), Amit Mishra (169 wickets) and Ravichandran Ashwin.

Overall, the top five-wicket takers in all of T20 cricket are Dwayne Bravo (615 wickets), Rashid Khan (536 wickets), West Indies all-rounder Sunil Narine (484 wickets), South Africa spinner Imran Tahir (469 wickets) and Shakib al Hasan (451 wickets).

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Jadeja 2/18 in 4 overs - and picked his 150th IPL wicket also during Qualifier 1 in IPL 2023

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Jadeja has had a good test match from personal point of view with 48 runs and 4 wickets at avg of 28.5. But can he contribute with bat in final inning to save/win this test match for India?
 
Ravindra Jadeja joins Kapil Dev as only 2nd Indian to achieve enormous ODI all-round feat in IND vs BAN Super 4 clash.

Ravindra Jadeja registered a brilliant feat during India's final Super 4 clash against Bangladesh on Friday.

Team India continued on its impressive performance in its final Asia Cup Super 4 match against Bangladesh on Friday, as the side ran through an inconsistent batting order after opting to bowl in Colombo. After reducing Bangladesh to 59/4 in 14 overs, the side did produce some resistance with captain Shakib Al Hasan (80) and Towhid Hridoy (54) bailing Bangladesh out of trouble, but Shakib's dismissal right after the drinks break in the 33nd over triggered another collapse. In the very next over, new batter Shamim Hossain was dismissed by Ravindra Jadeja as the India all-rounder registered an impressive feat in ODIs.

This was Jadeja's 200th wicket in the format as he joined legendary former India captain Kapil Dev in being the only second Indian to have 200 wickets and over 2000 runs in ODIs. Among overseas cricketers, Jadeja joined the likes of Sanath Jayasuriya, Shahid Afridi, Shakib Al Hasan, and Daniel Vettori among some of the leading names to have achieved the feat.

Additionally, Jadeja also became the seventh Indian to have reached the 200-wicket mark in ODIs. Anil Kumble (337), Javagal Srinath (315), Ajit Agarkar (288), Zaheer Khan (282), Harbhajan Singh (269) and Kapil Dev (251) are the others.

In his distinguished cricketing career, Kapil Dev registered 253 wickets and 3783 runs in 225 ODI matches. He held the distinction of becoming the first Indian bowler to reach the 250-wicket mark in ODIs for India. Jadeja's bowling statistics, meanwhile, include 200 wickets in 174 ODI innings, maintaining an average of 36.83 and an economy rate of 4.89.

Moreover, his contributions with the bat in ODIs were equally noteworthy, amassing 2578 runs from 123 innings at an impressive average of 32.22, along with securing 13 half-centuries.

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Ravindra Jadeja joins Kapil Dev as only 2nd Indian to achieve enormous ODI all-round feat in IND vs BAN Super 4 clash

Ravindra Jadeja registered a brilliant feat during India's final Super 4 clash against Bangladesh on Friday.
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He is certainly in top 3 when it comes to all formats. Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi and Shadab Khan are also good contenders in white ball cricket. In test cricket, I think he is the best at the moment.
 
hassan918 said:
He is certainly in top 3 when it comes to all formats. Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi and Shadab Khan are also good contenders in white ball cricket. In test cricket, I think he is the best at the moment.
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Shadab isn't even on the same level as shakib.
 
Jadeja on in his decline i guess, he is brilliant with ball but not contributing much with bat.
 
Ravindra Jadeja scalps three wickets

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Still remember how much trolling he had to endure when he made his debut in international cricket.
 
He is having an excellent time in this World Cup and that could well help him build a legacy in white ball cricket as well. Definitely the best Indian A/R since Kapil Dev across formats and is not very far behind from him either.
 
Ab Fan said:
He is having an excellent time in this World Cup and that could well help him build a legacy in white ball cricket as well. Definitely the best Indian A/R since Kapil Dev across formats and is not very far behind from him either.
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In Indian conditions he can still thrive. I say Ashwin will also enjoy bowling here.
 
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Ab Fan said:
He is having an excellent time in this World Cup and that could well help him build a legacy in white ball cricket as well. Definitely the best Indian A/R since Kapil Dev across formats and is not very far behind from him either.
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If you also include fast bowling all-rounders then Hardik Pandya is a serious contender as well.
 
The silent assassin exceptional bowler acrobatic fielder and level headed batsman highly underrated
 
World Class Spinner in Indian Conditions. Has a superior understanding of the line, length, pace at which to bowl on Indian wickets and where to put the fielders to chock the batsmen.

Rizwan and Babar were terrified of even thinking about taking risks against him and Jadeja gave them no freebies.
 
Savak said:
World Class Spinner in Indian Conditions. Has a superior understanding of the line, length, pace at which to bowl on Indian wickets and where to put the fielders to chock the batsmen.

Rizwan and Babar were terrified of even thinking about taking risks against him and Jadeja gave them no freebies.
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Yep. Jadeja is a very dangerous bowler. His record says so. We cannot expect him to bowl a bad delivery so we can hit, because he is not gonna offer any freehits. very accurate and lethal fielder as well.
 
On spinning pitches, Jadeja is a proper bowler first and batter second.
 
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Just look how good he has been, and he keeps it simple:
- no half trackers
- keeping line and length tidy
- chages up his pace

And just by doing the basics right, he has a bowling average of 25.75 and an economy of 3.75 this WC! Def, one of the best bowling all rounders
 
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