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The notions of him having lost his batting MOJO were greatly exaggerated. He should have ideally batted in top 6.Jadeja on in his decline i guess, he is brilliant with ball but not contributing much with bat.
Just look how good he has been, and he keeps it simple:
- no half trackers
- keeping line and length tidy
- chages up his pace
And just by doing the basics right, he has a bowling average of 25.75 and an economy of 3.75 this WC! Def, one of the best bowling all rounders
Ravindra Jadeja this World Cup. Now Indian fans have more expectations from him in Semi-final against New Zealand.
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That will be Imran Khan by a country mile. Jadeja is a SC bully. Has only 1 5fer in SENA lol.Jaddu, the GREATEST allrounder to walk on the cricket field from subcontinent.
That will be Imran Khan by a country mile. Jadeja is a SC bully. Has only 1 5fer in SENA lol.
False for what calling him a SC bully? That's a fact. I see you have no comeback hence running away. Your deluded fans also think Ashwin who doesn't even have a 5fer in SENA is better than Imran. How ridiculous does that sound?False. But thanks for coming.
Averages 43 in Australia with the bat and 22 with the ball.One of the greatest htb of all time.
Small sample size. Only has 1 5 fer and 1 century in SENA. That is just awful. Neil brand the SA captain has the same amount of 5fers in SENA as jadeja and Ashwin and he's only played 2 games lol.Averages 43 in Australia with the bat and 22 with the ball.
Both Ashwin and Jadeja are clear of Imran in Test cricket.Small sample size. Only has 1 5 fer and 1 century in SENA. That is just awful. Neil brand the SA captain has the same amount of 5fers in SENA as jadeja and Ashwin and he's only played 2 games lol.
Just stated a fact which seems to have hit the nerve. Anyway, I don't have time to waste with someone who thinks Ashwin and jadeja are better than Imran.Both Ashwin and Jadeja are clear of Imran in Test cricket.
Averages 85 with the bat in SL and 28 with the ballAverages 43 in Australia with the bat and 22 with the ball.
Nah, IK was a better all-rounder unless you are only seeing it as someone who was turning it on as a bowler and batsman at the same time then IK falls behind. Botham comes to mind for turning it on with the bat and ball at the same time.Both Ashwin and Jadeja are clear of Imran in Test cricket.
If you are not performing with both bat and ball at the same time you are not really an all-rounder.Nah, IK was a better all-rounder unless you are only seeing it as someone who was turning it on as a bowler and batsman at the same time then IK falls behind. Botham comes to mind for turning it on with the bat and ball at the same time.
Agree with the bold.If you are not performing with both bat and ball at the same time you are not really an all-rounder.
Jadeja in the last 4-5 years has been as good as any all-rounder in history.
Could you please also share ashwin who is also better than Imran. Anyone who thinks these 2 are even close to Imran shouldn't be taken seriously.Let me lay this here before the forced Imran vs Jadeja "debate" gets out of hand.
Imran with bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (2445 runs at 34.43), (222 wickets at 23.98) Matches 55
Jadeja with bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
Hopefully, the joke ends here. It wasn't funny to begin with.
He averages more than 23.98 against each of these opposition away. Your stats are wrong.Let me lay this here before the forced Imran vs Jadeja "debate" gets out of hand.
Imran with bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (2445 runs at 34.43), (222 wickets at 23.98) Matches 55
Jadeja with bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
Hopefully, the joke ends here. It wasn't funny to begin with.
Let me lay this here before the forced Imran vs Jadeja "debate" gets out of hand.
Imran with bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (2445 runs at 34.43), (222 wickets at 23.98) Matches 55
Jadeja with bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
Hopefully, the joke ends here. It wasn't funny to begin with.
Let me lay this here before the forced Imran vs Jadeja "debate" gets out of hand.
Imran with bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (2445 runs at 34.43), (222 wickets at 23.98) Matches 55
Jadeja with bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
Hopefully, the joke ends here. It wasn't funny to begin with.
He averages more than 23.98 against each of these opposition away. Your stats are wrong.
You know times are tough when you start using fake stats to prove your point.Let me lay this here before the forced Imran vs Jadeja "debate" gets out of hand.
Imran with bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (2445 runs at 34.43), (222 wickets at 23.98) Matches 55
Jadeja with bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
Hopefully, the joke ends here. It wasn't funny to begin with.
Even with these stats Imran is on a different universe to jadeja. It's a joke that some think he's better than Imran.The said poster is known for hyping. Remember how he was adamant that Imam Ul Haq is better than KL Rahul prior to Asia cup & world cup but completely deserted that thread after those events.
Anyway below are the stats of Imran & Jadeja. There is no doubt that Imran was a much better test all rounder. However not sure why are we bringing Imran into this discussion as the thread is about Spin bowling all rounder and Ravi Jadeja is one of the best.
Imran Khan
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Ravi Jadeja
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The said poster is known for hyping. Remember how he was adamant that Imam Ul Haq is better than KL Rahul prior to Asia cup & world cup but completely deserted that thread after those events.
Anyway below are the stats of Imran & Jadeja. There is no doubt that Imran was a much better test all rounder. However not sure why are we bringing Imran into this discussion as the thread is about Spin bowling all rounder and Ravi Jadeja is one of the best.
I don't think Jadeja is better than IK. But seriously, this is lazy.
1 - You are picking 4 teams during Jadeja's career, all having W/L of greater than 1 during his playing days to NZ which had 0.5 W/L during IK's playing days and not among the top 5 teams in W/L.
2 - You are picking 4 pacers friendly venues to compare pace all-rounder vs spin all-rounder.
Comparison of bowling stats of a spinner and a pacer in SENA.
You know times are tough when you start using fake stats to prove your point.
First Kohli destroyed Imran’s legacy as Asia’s greatest Test captain. Now Jadeja has destroyed his legacy as Asia’s greatest Test all-rounder.
The bitterness is understandable.
Could you please also share ashwin who is also better than Imran. Anyone who thinks these 2 are even close to Imran shouldn't be taken seriously.
Don't care much about life outside PP but my response was only to correct your stats.Sorry for not responding in 10 minutes. I have a life outside of PP and the internet.
SureI didn't flick the away tag in Imran's profile accidentally, I have no ill intention overall, it was an unfortunate oversight. Might be due to me not caring about double-checking what I post anymore in order to write stuff in 5 mins. Time's valuable.
Luckily for me, my point still stands despite the(minor) error.
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Imran with the bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (1741 runs at 34.13), (157 wickets at 26.11) Matches 37
Jadeja with the bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
There we go. Has the crisis been averted?
I had 5 notifications so this must've been a big deal. Didn't mean to propagate a 170-wicket gap when in reality there was only a 110-wicket gap. I hope I did our boy Jadu a favor.
Imran only played against 6 test teams in his career and I picked NZ instead of IND and SL because he performed better against the latter two so I wanted to lower his stats by excluding them. Including them doesn't close or widen the gap by much.
And I'm pretty sure both IND and SL also had a losing record back.
If we are solely talking about Asia(which Jadu is designed for), then IK has a slightly better bowling average and Jadu has a slightly better batting average. The difference maker would end up being IK's much better away stats. J
Nah, NZ had much lower W/L and was practically a minnow in those days. I also don't get the logic of clubbing certain teams without a fixed rationale. If you are not going to pick the top 4 oppositions of their playing days or then you can as well just take Asia and outside Asia.
That's correct. IK is just better when talking about bowling plus batting( Ignoring fielding for a moment) and that's due to his outside Asia performance with the ball.
The only thing Jadeja will have an edge over IK will be fielding., he is light years ahead of IK in that because IK was a very ordinary fielder and Jadeja is top 2-3 fielders of his era. But IK was a safe enough fielder.
Another thing that may go in favor of Jadeja is his performance with bat and ball at the same time in his entire career and he is still playing and will opportunity to more all-around contributions till he retires.
I wasn't suggesting that you intentionally picked a filter to put IK higher. Anyway, no need to look too much. IK was a far better bowler outside Asia. Yes, Jadeja helped his team win 2 test series in Aus, but IK was just a better performer outside Asia. It's reflected in his career stats. I only caught the last phase of his career, but the stats are very clear.The point is that the other two were also minnows. Adding those in wouldn't have changed his overall stats much.
If you want performances against the top 6 to be the main criteria then all you have to do is look at his overall overseas record, which again doesn't change much other than the fact the overall number of wickets and runs increases. The averages stay pretty much the same other than minor adjustments.
True, IK was an average fielder.
Him being a spinner will help him play for a while longer, and the fact that India tends to rest him during overseas matches quite a bit.
One thing I appreciated about IK is that he skipped matches against the opposition he deemed weak. If he had the modern-day's player mindset he could've farmed runs and wickets for stats but he opted to show up for challenges. It's a different mindset.
Sorry for not responding in 10 minutes. I have a life outside of PP and the internet.
Read the thread, I didn't bring him in, some unique posters did.
I didn't flick the away tag in Imran's profile accidentally, I have no ill intention overall, it was an unfortunate oversight. Might be due to me not caring about double-checking what I post anymore in order to write stuff in 5 mins. Time's valuable.
Luckily for me, my point still stands despite the(minor) error.
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Imran with the bat, and ball vs AUS, WI, NZ, EN, Away - (1741 runs at 34.13), (157 wickets at 26.11) Matches 37
Jadeja with the bat, and ball vs AUS, SA, NZ, EN, Away - (853 runs at 30.46), (47 wickets at 37.80) Matches 19
There we go. Has the crisis been averted?
I had 5 notifications so this must've been a big deal. Didn't mean to propagate a 170-wicket gap when in reality there was only a 110-wicket gap. I hope I did our boy Jadu a favor.
Imran only played against 6 test teams in his career and I picked NZ instead of IND and SL because he performed better against the latter two so I wanted to lower his stats by excluding them. Including them doesn't close or widen the gap by much.
And I'm pretty sure both IND and SL also had a losing record back then so it wouldn't have made much of a difference in that regard. Again if you want me to include them I'll be happy to do so.
Most overseas venues are pace-friendly. If we are solely talking about Asia(which Jadu is designed for), then IK has a slightly better bowling average and Jadu has a slightly better batting average. The difference maker would end up being IK's much better away stats. Jadu doesn't even have 80 away wickets. This debate is an insult.
Yes, pace-allrounders tend to be better away from home compared to spin-allrounders. Thanks for the info.
Corrected. Now you can read the real stats(the keyword being "read").
In subcontinent, I choose Jaddu 9ver Imran.Even with these stats Imran is on a different universe to jadeja. It's a joke that some think he's better than Imran.
I don't think Jadeja and IK are like to like. One is a finger spinner while another is a pace bowler.In subcontinent, I choose Jaddu 9ver Imran.
In SENA countries, it’s IK obviously.
Yes, that's why Pakistan won so few when playing away in 80s. NZ, Pak, Aus, Eng ... all of them won 6-8 games with W/L 0.5 when playing away.The transformation is amazing but it doesn't help the team much as it seems statistically because you are not getting a world class batsman + world class bowler from one player.
His bowling suits more in home conditions like Ashwin.i will rate him best in Test cricket only which suits his batting style but in white ball cricket we have many superior options like shakeeb, stokes, Marsh etc.
Jadeja is very poor in LoIs and that has shown in our LoI results during last decade or so.i will rate him best in Test cricket only which suits his batting style but in white ball cricket we have many superior options like shakeeb, stokes, Marsh etc.
Obviously even in India Jadeja is not rated in LOIs.i will rate him best in Test cricket only which suits his batting style but in white ball cricket we have many superior options like shakeeb, stokes, Marsh etc.
Ravindra Jadeja completes 100 catches in IPLRavindra Jadeja shines once again in Chepauk. He has picked 3 wickets in just 8 balls.
His final figures after 4 overs are 3/18 against KKR in IPL 2024.