Yeah, sorry for that.It was @CricketCartoons who wanted to become like Pakistan, I think you are quoting the wrong person.
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Yeah, sorry for that.It was @CricketCartoons who wanted to become like Pakistan, I think you are quoting the wrong person.
What kind of question is this? Why do you like this and not that? You want to be like China, good for you. I want to be like Pakistan, why do you have a problem with that? learn to accept that others will not be sharing your likes and dislikes.Why do you want to become like Pakistan and not like China? The three countries got independence in the same time with roughly equal living and economic conditions. Now China is literally in another stratosphere from India and Pakistan. India itself is much more successful than Pakistan. It seems like the further a nation is from religion the more successful it is. So why do you wany to become like Pakistan and lower our standards?
That is only your wrong interpretation that he called the citizens as infiltrators.This is your PM. A guy that calls his own citizens "infiltrators". You should be embarrassed. I dare you to call him a terrorist
Seems like the more invested a nation is in religion, the more its chance to be mismanaged. You can want anything, but usually people don't want to lower their standards. I don't think you will see many Americans wanting to become like Iran. So that's what I found surprising.What kind of question is this? Why do you like this and not that? You want to be like China, good for you. I want to be like Pakistan, why do you have a problem with that? learn to accept that others will not be sharing your likes and dislikes.
It is your wrong assumption that religion causes failure. Pakistan's economic issues are not because of religion, but because of mismanagement and corruption. In fact because of less religion. If the musharrafs and shareefs were good muslims they would have put the interest of the nation first.
The defining character of Pakistan that it is a fortress of Islam. I want India to become a fortress of Hinduism. Nothing more and nothing less.
Another big lie. Show me any proof that Modi killed even 1 person.He is convicted terrorist. I have no sympathy. On the other hand Modi murdered 1000s and there is a whole army of you guys defending him
You can have your own hypothesis. Strange that someone who studied maths doesn't even know the basics of correlation and causality.Seems like the more invested a nation is in religion, the more its chance to be mismanaged. You can want anything, but usually people don't want to lower their standards. I don't think you will see many Americans wanting to become like Iran. So that's what I found surprising.
Oh that often repeated line correlation doesn't mean causality. You realise that for that for that to hold true you need different enough inputs right? And no in this case corruption and mismanagement are not inputs, they are outputs of different functions depending on the same set of inputs as the success of a nation function.You can have your own hypothesis. Strange that someone who studied maths doesn't even know the basics of correlation and causality.
Another big lie. Show me any proof that Modi killed even 1 person.
We don't defend Modi. We are defending the truth. Bring forth your truth to show that he murdered even 1 person. Even 1 is too many. But since you said 1000, it would be very easy for you to show. Go on. I will wait. Now it is my time to sleep.
Wrong interpretation eh? Why do you think we interpreted wrongly. You guys have history. Your ideology is hateful and you have been groomed.That is only your wrong interpretation that he called the citizens as infiltrators.
India has many infiltrators is a fact. Infiltrators steal resources meant for citizens (of any religion). Any person who puts the interest of the citizens first will speak against inflitrators.
Seems you have nothing to show so want to stretch your imagination and someone use the word terrorist for anyone you dislike.
This is a kid level statement from you, unlike the pro level other comments you made today. Try again.
It's all halal. These thugs can't be terrorist- The terrorism label only applies to Muslims.There was a Khalistani who was assassinated in Canada. Who ordered the hit job? Did it not happen under Modi's leadership?
What about those extrajudicial killings in Kashmir? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir#:~:text=The Indian government claims 14,000,7,200 died from custodial torture.
Tbf, if we assume that the hit was conducted by Raw there's a chance Modi didn't know about it. It's almost accepted that American intelligence like CIA doesn't entirely operate under the civilian government. Everyone knows that ISI doesn't really follow the Pakistan civilian government. There's a chance that same is true for RAW even if not to the same extent.There was a Khalistani who was assassinated in Canada. Who ordered the hit job? Did it not happen under Modi's leadership?
What about those extrajudicial killings in Kashmir? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir#:~:text=The Indian government claims 14,000,7,200 died from custodial torture.
people won't respond to this bro. Time to digressThere was a Khalistani who was assassinated in Canada. Who ordered the hit job? Did it not happen under Modi's leadership?
What about those extrajudicial killings in Kashmir? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir#:~:text=The Indian government claims 14,000,7,200 died from custodial torture.
You are trying too hard.Nah...that is a myth. Just read the Anjem Choudhary thread here.
Either you are intentionally acting ignorant or unable to comprehend what I am trying to say.
According to your admission in OP, hindutva (I presume you meant BJP bhakts) hates muslims.
Then from the recent incidents in the UK, it is clear that right wing here hates muslims too.
Donald Trump asked to ban all muslims entering United States as he is white supremacist.
So the question you should be asking is, what you or your community is doing wrong that most people hating you and you alone? Ofcourse you can blame hindus, jews, whites etc but that is called passing the buck.
Problem lies somewhere else which you seem to purposefully ignore. Gather courage to speak the truth.
Lol...people here call him extremist but do you have guts to call out Modi the same let alone a butcher. Infiltrators, baby boomer gange, mangalsutar stealer.Nah...that is a myth. Just read the Anjem Choudhary thread here.
Nah...that is a myth. Just read the Anjem Choudhary thread here.
Pretty much all religious conflicts worldwide involve muslims. Any reason why? When in minority, want full secularism. When in majority, want islamic sharia type of law and to hell with minorities. West gives freedom of religion, not impose others with your views.
Sshhh dont use the j wordHave you and my old buddy @Rajdeep forgotten that India's current best friend Israelites have been the most hated people in the last 2000 years but still indian Hindus get along with them well.
So Raj is here problem with haters too or with those who are despised? Or let me put it more plainly was the problem with holocaust or the jews condemning it?
If you want to stretch so far, then every head of state is a terrorist, including Obama, your khaleda zia, Manmohan singh.There was a Khalistani who was assassinated in Canada. Who ordered the hit job? Did it not happen under Modi's leadership?
What about those extrajudicial killings in Kashmir? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir#:~:text=The Indian government claims 14,000,7,200 died from custodial torture.
My ideology is the ideology of Pakistan.Wrong interpretation eh? Why do you think we interpreted wrongly. You guys have history. Your ideology is hateful and you have been groomed.
Don't play puzzles here with us. Let me put it blantly far right guys around the world including hindutva guys just hate muslim because of their insecurities and the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, with most number of new converts too from hinduism,christianity, Judaism and other religions too.
And state your reasons without beating around the bush and the sharia law implementation in western countries is just a myth so come up with something new this time
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Please discard your constitution first and the veil of secularism also
This is your PM. A guy that calls his own citizens "infiltrators". You should be embarrassed. I dare you to call him a terrorist
There was a Khalistani who was assassinated in Canada. Who ordered the hit job? Did it not happen under Modi's leadership?
What about those extrajudicial killings in Kashmir? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir#:~:text=The Indian government claims 14,000,7,200 died from custodial torture.
Lol...people here call him extremist but do you have guts to call out Modi the same let alone a butcher. Infiltrators, baby boomer gange, mangalsutar stealer.
I know you won't respond to my query directly. But let's hope
Tbf, if we assume that the hit was conducted by Raw there's a chance Modi didn't know about it. It's almost accepted that American intelligence like CIA doesn't entirely operate under the civilian government. Everyone knows that ISI doesn't really follow the Pakistan civilian government. There's a chance that same is true for RAW even if not to the same extent.
Obama ordered the hit of anwar al awlaki, an american citizen. He did the right thing. If a citizen turns traitor he loses any privilege of being a citizen.Let's assume RAW did the hit with Modi's knowledge, dont NATO countries led by US or Israel carry out assassination of individuals they consider terrorists?
No he didn't.He called infiltrators infiltrators. Illegal immigrants from Bangladesh or Rohingyas have no right to be in India. They have to be thrown out.
Opposition politicians fighting for these infiltrators are taking rights of Indians and giving it to them.
That's unacceptable.
No he didn't.
When he claimed some sort of divine birth you guys gave 10 different interpretations. I remember you were also denial then and i know you are embarrassed. You are here to make the fascist sound reasonable but it isn't working. He called his own citizens as infiltrators.No he didn't. There are opposition politicians who are going to courts to get these infiltrators rights in India. To stop their deportation.
Some states with the help of politicians are providing them false documents.
No matter what, ultimately they will have to leave. If they leave peacefully thats fine else they will be thrown out.
People are beginning to fed up and when people start coming on streets no political party will be able to save them.
Applies to all Hindus who dedicate themselves in the service of one Parmatma. It might not be working with your Islamic ideology and fair enough, leave it to ideological differences.When he claimed some sort of divine birth you guys gave 10 different interpretations. I remember you were also denial then and i know you are embarrassed. You are here to make the fascist sound reasonable but it isn't working. He called his own citizens as infiltrators.
Modi Claims On ‘Divine’ Origins: From Not 'Born Biologically' to 'Earn Punya From Good Deeds I Do'
Modi, starting from the special ‘divine’ energy he has claimed earlier, has steeply climbed the escalation ladder on ascribing divinity to himself.www.google.com
Narendra Modi while on a campaign in Uttar Pradesh’s Basti for the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on May 22, Tuesday tried to exalt himself and evoke a connection with the divine once again by saying, “Those who will vote will get the punya of good works I will do.”
During an interview with News18, on the Ganga, Modi, before filing his nomination papers from the Varanasi Lok Sabha constituency on May 14, uttered words, which suggested that he was urging viewers to believe that he was not “born biologically.” He told an unquestioning interviewer, “Pehle jab tak maa zinda thi mujhe lagta tha ki shayad biologically mujhe janam diya gaya hai. Maa ke jaane ke baad in saare anubhavo ko mai jod kar dekhta hoon to mai convince ho chuka hu, galat ho sakta hoon, aalochak, left log toh meri dhajjiya uda denge, mere baal noch lenge…mai convince ho chuka hoon ki parmatma ne mujhe bheja hai. Ye urja biological shareer se nahi mili hai, ye urja ishwar mujhse kuch kaam lena hai, isliye mujhe vidha bhi di hai, samarthya bhi diya hai, nek dili bhi di hai aur prerna bhi wahi de raha hai, purushartha karne ka samarthya bhi de raha hai aur mai kuch nahi hoon, ek instrument hoon jo ishwar mere roop me mujhse lena tay kiya hai aur isliye mai jab bhi kuch karta hoon to mai manta hoon shayad ishwar mujhse karwana chahta hai…. (When my mother was alive, I used to believe that I was born biologically. After she passed away, upon reflecting on all my experiences, I was convinced that God has sent me. This energy could not be from my biological body, but was bestowed upon me by God. I believe God has given me abilities, inspiration, and good intentions for a purpose… I am nothing but an instrument. That’s why, whenever I do anything, I believe god is guiding me.)” [Emphasis added]. This was an answer to a question which the same journalist had asked five years ago, “Aap thakte kyun nahi hain? (Why don’t you get tired?)”
When he claimed some sort of divine birth you guys gave 10 different interpretations. I remember you were also denial then and i know you are embarrassed. You are here to make the fascist sound reasonable but it isn't working. He called his own citizens as infiltrators.
Modi Claims On ‘Divine’ Origins: From Not 'Born Biologically' to 'Earn Punya From Good Deeds I Do'
Modi, starting from the special ‘divine’ energy he has claimed earlier, has steeply climbed the escalation ladder on ascribing divinity to himself.www.google.com
Narendra Modi while on a campaign in Uttar Pradesh’s Basti for the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on May 22, Tuesday tried to exalt himself and evoke a connection with the divine once again by saying, “Those who will vote will get the punya of good works I will do.”
During an interview with News18, on the Ganga, Modi, before filing his nomination papers from the Varanasi Lok Sabha constituency on May 14, uttered words, which suggested that he was urging viewers to believe that he was not “born biologically.” He told an unquestioning interviewer, “Pehle jab tak maa zinda thi mujhe lagta tha ki shayad biologically mujhe janam diya gaya hai. Maa ke jaane ke baad in saare anubhavo ko mai jod kar dekhta hoon to mai convince ho chuka hu, galat ho sakta hoon, aalochak, left log toh meri dhajjiya uda denge, mere baal noch lenge…mai convince ho chuka hoon ki parmatma ne mujhe bheja hai. Ye urja biological shareer se nahi mili hai, ye urja ishwar mujhse kuch kaam lena hai, isliye mujhe vidha bhi di hai, samarthya bhi diya hai, nek dili bhi di hai aur prerna bhi wahi de raha hai, purushartha karne ka samarthya bhi de raha hai aur mai kuch nahi hoon, ek instrument hoon jo ishwar mere roop me mujhse lena tay kiya hai aur isliye mai jab bhi kuch karta hoon to mai manta hoon shayad ishwar mujhse karwana chahta hai…. (When my mother was alive, I used to believe that I was born biologically. After she passed away, upon reflecting on all my experiences, I was convinced that God has sent me. This energy could not be from my biological body, but was bestowed upon me by God. I believe God has given me abilities, inspiration, and good intentions for a purpose… I am nothing but an instrument. That’s why, whenever I do anything, I believe god is guiding me.)” [Emphasis added]. This was an answer to a question which the same journalist had asked five years ago, “Aap thakte kyun nahi hain? (Why don’t you get tired?)”
On here most of you gave different explanations. Why was that? All of you were defending him but couldn't bring yourself to admit what he claimed. If you are right, why not say I am doing God's workYou have little knowledge of Hindu philosophy so no wonder you think he was claiming divine birth. He wasn't.
Embarassed why? Because the PM said god has destined him to work for the country.
He called infiltrators infiltrators. And these illegal immigrants are not Indian citizens and they never will be. No matter how long they stay here.
Why so many explanations. Go back to the original conversation and you see your Hindu friends were also giving different explanations because they couldn't bring themselves to accept what he was saying.Applies to all Hindus who dedicate themselves in the service of one Parmatma. It might not be working with your Islamic ideology and fair enough, leave it to ideological differences.
Remember brother, as Hindus we don't owe you an explanation, nor do we seek your approval. What's working and what's not working is for people of Modi's religion to decide.
I don't know what my Hindu friends said before, but it definitely didn't claim divine birth, what he did claim however is birth for the divine, two totally different things. Takes me a long time to explain things with my limited command over English language brother, but I'll do that when I can and tag you.Why so many explanations. Go back to the original conversation and you see your Hindu friends were also giving different explanations because they couldn't bring themselves to accept what he was saying.
You are doing a value judgement. For muslims, only prophets claim claim that God sent them for some special work. In Hindus it is just a matter of humility, that it is not me, but I am just a medium through which God is doing the work, and I was sent for this work by the Almighty.On here most of you gave different explanations. Why was that? All of you were defending him but couldn't bring yourself to admit what he claimed. If you are right, why not say I am doing God's work
He called the Muslims infiltrators because apparently the Hindutuva are the only people allowed to live in modern Ind
I am doing God's work isn't the same as claiming that he wasn't born biologically.You are doing a value judgement. For muslims, only prophets claim claim that God sent them for some special work. In Hindus it is just a matter of humility, that it is not me, but I am just a medium through which God is doing the work, and I was sent for this work by the Almighty.
He never said that he wasn't born biologically.I am doing God's work isn't the same as claiming that he wasn't born biologically.
On here most of you gave different explanations. Why was that? All of you were defending him but couldn't bring yourself to admit what he claimed. If you are right, why not say I am doing God's work
He called the Muslims infiltrators because apparently the Hindutuva are the only people allowed to live in modern Ind
These are all tactics so that people don't speak against infiltrators. This playbook was used successfully in UK, where cops didn't intervene against grooming gangs because they will be called racists.He called infiltrators infiltrators you are hurt because majority of them are Muslims.
The very basis of partition was a country for Muslims and another for Hindus. Yet the constituent assembly of India decided to have a nation with no state religion.
He called his own people infiltrators because they are Muslims. This is the level of discourse from the not biologically born born cretinHe called infiltrators infiltrators you are hurt because majority of them are Muslims.
The very basis of partition was a country for Muslims and another for Hindus. Yet the constituent assembly of India decided to have a nation with no state religion.
These are all tactics so that people don't speak against infiltrators. This playbook was used successfully in UK, where cops didn't intervene against grooming gangs because they will be called racists.
So whenever anyone speaks against infiltrators, accusations will be thrown of dog whistling, hate speech etc. The only response is keep speaking against infiltrators and taking actions against them.
Infiltrators don't deserve any sympathy. They are thieves who steal nations resources from citizens.
He called his own people infiltrators because they are Muslims. This is the level of discourse from the not biologically born born cretin
I have heard dozens of interpretations just on here. You guys covering up isn't going to change the facts. This was a guy in alliance with a rapist and believes he is not biologically bornHe never said that he wasn't born biologically.
This is what he said: Yeh Urja mujhe biologically nahi mili hai.
Means: This energy I have, I didn't receive it from the biological body, but from Almighty, who gave me strength and energy.
His interview is publicly available. Show the time stamp where he said what you are alleging.
I couldn't care less. Whether they stay or leave because him calling his own people infiltrators shows why he needed the teleprompter.These infiltrators will have to leave.
We will not fall in the trap like the Brits did.
Here is a reminder of his extra divine intellectThese infiltrators will have to leave.
We will not fall in the trap like the Brits did.
Covering up?I have heard dozens of interpretations just on here. You guys covering up isn't going to change the facts. This was a guy in alliance with a rapist and believes he is not biologically born
Reported by all news sites. The Guardian is a trusted source. Email them and get back to me. Thanks in advanceShow the time stamp in the publicly available video ( it is on youtube) where he said what you alleged (that he is not born biologically).
If you have the truth on your side, why are you afraid?
Your guy claims to be deity and can't string a sentence together. EmbarrassingCovering up?
The interview is publicly available.
Just show the timestamp where he said what you are alleging.
Just show the truth if you have it. Expose people like me who are covering up. Go on.
I am enjoying your desperate attempts to explain the racist rants of this idiot. Here is a reminder of his extra divine intellect
Reported by all news sites. The Guardian is a trusted source. Email them and get back to me. Thanks in advance
Your guy claims to be deity and can't string a sentence together. Embarrassing
Oh, a newspaper? If it is printed, it must be true, right? Who needs primary sources when you have the ultimate truth machine, the guardian.Reported by all news sites. The Guardian is a trusted source. Email them and get back to me. Thanks in advance
Not embarrassing. Even Biden and Trump have slip of tongues or struggle sometimes to express themselves.Your guy claims to be deity and can't string a sentence together. Embarrassing
Not trying to defend Modi or anyone. But aren't you a big fan of Imran Khan? What exactly was he upto when he claimed that Germany and Japan share borders, and that trees and plants produce oxygen at night?Your guy claims to be deity and can't string a sentence together. Embarrassing
Oh, a newspaper? If it is printed, it must be true, right? Who needs primary sources when you have the ultimate truth machine, the guardian.
Since you give up. Let me show you the primary source and expose your lies.
Here is the interview and the timestamp is 13:20. Now listen to it and update yourself. It is not wrong to be wrong. But it is wrong to not try to correct the wrong when truth is staring at your face.
So an error is compared with Modi claiming he is divine. That is a stretchNot trying to defend Modi or anyone. But aren't you a big fan of Imran Khan? What exactly was he upto when he claimed that Germany and Japan share borders, and that trees and plants produce oxygen at night?
Earlier I could give the benefit of doubt that you were mistaken. Now even after showing the truth, you are parroting the same, it only means you are lying.So an error is compared with Modi claiming he is divine. That is a stretch
This isnt a slip of the tongue, this is him claiming divinity or some sort prophethood. EmbarrassingNot embarrassing. Even Biden and Trump have slip of tongues or struggle sometimes to express themselves.
Why are you repeating the same conclusion again and again when you know it's inaccurate?So an error is compared with Modi claiming he is divine. That is a stretch
Earlier I could give the benefit of doubt that you were mistaken. Now even after showing the truth, you are parroting the same, it only means you are lying.
Why are you lying now?
Your interpretation is wrong. The guy got exposed and now you guys are embarrassed.Oh, a newspaper? If it is printed, it must be true, right? Who needs primary sources when you have the ultimate truth machine, the guardian.
Since you give up. Let me show you the primary source and expose your lies.
Here is the interview and the timestamp is 13:20. Now listen to it and update yourself. It is not wrong to be wrong. But it is wrong to not try to correct the wrong when truth is staring at your face.
It worked like a charm in UK.Its not that he doesn't know he is wrong.
Its to keep calling Modi a racist or fascist or trying to some how make Modi look bad.
This is a tried and tested method to attack political leaders who oppose illegal immigrants.
I gave you the ground truth. No slip of tongue.How many explanations have you guys given. Look at the original conversation. Now you claiming it was slip of the tongue. Make up your mind
Write him a letter and tell him that your fellow citizens( whichever religion) are equal citizens. this is called dog whistle politics. Its a tried and tested formula. Except this time it didnt quite work for ModiIf he is a deity, he is the deity of throwing infiltrators out. Worth the respect of all Indians.
I am not making any interpretation. I gave the RAW truth.Your interpretation is wrong. The guy got exposed and now you guys are embarrassed.
Bhai, I'm not a worshipper of Modi. I consider him an Indian politician whom I've voted for. He is not a God. The point is mistakes and slip ups can happen with anyone.So an error is compared with Modi claiming he is divine. That is a stretch
Citizens and infiltrators are two separate things. Don't mix them up.Write him a letter and tell him that your fellow citizens( whichever religion) are equal citizens. but this is called dog whistle politics. Its a tried and tested formula. Except this time it didnt quite work for Modi
Why argue with me when literally dozen of sites have reported this news. Surely, you need speak to them first so that deity becomes human againI gave you the ground truth. No slip of tongue.
I mean I will accept you even if you show a slip of tongue. But even that is not there.
I shared the video and the timestamp in this thread.
I double dare you to show where he said the things you are lying about.
But there was no slip up even. He never said that he is not biological born which this @Bewal Express is lying about. I shared the video with time stamp.Bhai, I'm not a worshipper of Modi. I consider him an Indian politician whom I've voted for. He is not a God. The point is mistakes and slip ups can happen with anyone.
You probably dont but look at the other 2 guys.Bhai, I'm not a worshipper of Modi. I consider him an Indian politician whom I've voted for. He is not a God. The point is mistakes and slip ups can happen with anyone.
Why argue with me when literally dozen of sites have reported this news. Surely, you need speak to them first so that deity becomes human again
@Bewal Express again, here is the video.Oh, a newspaper? If it is printed, it must be true, right? Who needs primary sources when you have the ultimate truth machine, the guardian.
Since you give up. Let me show you the primary source and expose your lies.
Here is the interview and the timestamp is 13:20. Now listen to it and update yourself. It is not wrong to be wrong. But it is wrong to not try to correct the wrong when truth is staring at your face.
Never. Show me once example where I have quoted ANY islamophobic website.Dont you already do that. Arent you the one that uses Right wing websites to post lies on here. and btw these arent anti Modi sites, they are all reporting "Until my mother was alive, I used to think I was born biologically"