Why Indian Hindutva supporters back Israel on Gaza bombing

At the moment, all countries are just a talk-show rather than doing anything practical for Palestine conflict. But the point is, You should at least condemn what is wrong and do it openly and be brave while doing so without taking any external pressure like Iran.
 
What does this brotherly community look like?

black september in jordan during?

West pakistan vs bengalis in the late 60 and early 70's

Iran Iraq in the 80's?

Are Ahmediya part of the brotherly?

how brotherly are Yemeni and Saudi?
I think it will be a closed community for you so no point giving a description or invitation.

But for brother @CricketCartoons the door is open.
 
Like every civilization, Indian civilization has its good and evil parts. We are no exception.

Your constant hints at widow burning is not going to guilt trip us into becoming self hating white liberals. Indian civilization has its bad parts and they should be reformed. Reforms have been happening for over a century. Can you say the same about whatever religion or culture you follow?

I follow a mix of British culture and Islamic, which one are you talking about?

Also no idea why you are referencing white liberals, what have they got to do with you?
 
As a Pakistani, I obviously care about what is happening in Palestine. However, it is quite entertaining to observe how impassive Indians contort themselves to defend genocide and Hindutva bigotry, despite most Pakistanis on this forum being firmly aware that Hindutva will inevitably reveal its bigotry, despite their many attempts to conceal it. This is especially ironic when many of them claim, that they do not care much about genocide in Gaza.

Well, sorry to disappoint you but none of this matters.

Israel is a land based American aircraft carrier permanently stationed in the Middle East and you would do best to channel your aggression to trying to take it down without worrying about Indian or Ethiopian or New Zealander opinions on the subject.
 
Well, sorry to disappoint you but none of this matters.

Israel is a land based American aircraft carrier permanently stationed in the Middle East and you would do best to channel your aggression to trying to take it down without worrying about Indian or Ethiopian or New Zealander opinions on the subject.
Who implied concern for Indian opinions? The majority were already acquainted with Indian perspectives; it's merely intriguing to observe that some individuals from India have yet to navigate expressing their views without resorting to bigotry, all the while attempting to conceal their support for genocide.

Regarding Israel, the tide has shifted, they do not have monopoly on the narrative anymore.
 
the filth being posted by thousands of RW aka #ModiKaPariwar handles on twitter exulting on this genocide is sickening - I can post 100's of tweets but do not wish to offend normal peeps !
 
Wasn't looking for an invitation.

Wanted to find out what is your definition of "brotherly".

In your shoes, I'd run from that question too.
Not running.

As I said no definition for you.

First decide if you are Indian or not, or Hindu or athiest.
 
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Not running.

As I said no definition for you.

First decide if you are Indian or not, or Hindu or athiest.
ah deflection. what difference would it make on your definition of brotherly?

looks your are not very confident in your definition of brotherly.

As one of poster said in the past, play the ball not the bowler.
 
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A mix of British and Islamic? Like how?

Both are polar opposite. You must be one confused individual.

Let's keep it simple so you may understand easier. Here are some examples of activities that don't clash with either British or Islamic cultures.
  • Eating a sandwich
  • Going for a swim
  • Watching football
  • Studying for an exam
  • Politely declining a call from an overseas call centre
Where is the confusion?
 
ah deflection. what difference would it make on your definition of brotherly?

looks your are not very confident in your definition of brotherly.

As one of poster said in the past, play the ball not the bowler.
An answer needs to be tailored to the recipient.
What's the point answering today if tomorrow you will assume a new identity?

Anyway from your analogy when the bowler is a bits and pieces pie chucker I don't have the motivation to play it. I'd rather preserve my energy and rest up.
 
the filth being posted by thousands of RW aka #ModiKaPariwar handles on twitter exulting on this genocide is sickening - I can post 100's of tweets but do not wish to offend normal peeps !
Modi ki army would be better word
 
Maybe the Hindutwa Pandits words were really inspirational for the RSS brigade, which has led to unwavering support for the Genocide in all platforms.

 
Israel doesn't need those people's support. That's like showing support to America when they invaded Afghanistan. In fact Israel needs no one's support. This madness will continue and people around the world will keep providing lip service to Palestinians. When has Israel ever been held accountable for their actions in the past? Never! Same this time.​
 
Israel doesn't need those people's support. That's like showing support to America when they invaded Afghanistan. In fact Israel needs no one's support. This madness will continue and people around the world will keep providing lip service to Palestinians. When has Israel ever been held accountable for their actions in the past? Never! Same this time.​
Israel requires American support.
 
Israel requires American support.
Hmm, you're right. Sorry, I missed out. Israel has always had America's right hand over it's head since it's inception. However, asking an even bigger bully like America to try and stop Israel would be like expecting Anjem Choudary to become a nuclear scientist.​
 
Hmm, you're right. Sorry, I missed out. Israel has always had America's right hand over it's head since it's inception. However, asking an even bigger bully like America to try and stop Israel would be like expecting Anjem Choudary to become a nuclear scientist.​
Both America and Israel possess nuclear weapons, with America having already deployed two of them.

Who is Anjem Choudary?
 
An answer needs to be tailored to the recipient.
What's the point answering today if tomorrow you will assume a new identity?

Anyway from your analogy when the bowler is a bits and pieces pie chucker I don't have the motivation to play it. I'd rather preserve my energy and rest up.
You are running at this point. I understand given that no answer you will survive the brutal reality in my post #1039

If you are confident in your brotherly community you would have no problem listing its positive attributes and that shouldn't depend on who is asking the question.

Ambedkar had your brotherly community properly figure out.

BTW, pie chuckers get blasted out of the park by proper bats.
 
Let's keep it simple so you may understand easier. Here are some examples of activities that don't clash with either British or Islamic cultures.
  • Eating a sandwich
  • Going for a swim
  • Watching football
  • Studying for an exam
  • Politely declining a call from an overseas call centre
Where is the confusion?
You don’t have to be British to do all that.
Lahore or Karachi would be enough.
 
Hindutva ideology mirrors Zionism. Xenophobic and racist to its core. But because Muslims are the primary victims of each, the world turns a blind eye. Doesn't make the ideology any less racist and vile however.
So anyone who does not share your views on Israel Palestine conflict is a racist, xenophobic and islamophobe person.
 
It's perplexing to discern whether Hindutva adherents are perturbed by the majority of Muslims opposing genocide or if they derive satisfaction from intra-Muslim conflicts perpetuated under dictatorship.

Anyways, why do Hindutva support Genocide in Gaza :)
 
So anyone who does not share your views on Israel Palestine conflict is a racist, xenophobic and islamophobe person.
Absolutely, it's akin to those who deny the Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis. It's probable that in every genocide, there's a segment of society that denies its existence, and currently, that segment encompasses Hindutva ideology.
 
It is not a surprise . The hindus have been brainwashed by RSS propaganda. RSS was banned thrice , and they do not take part directly into politics but works at found levels , propagating false things about Muslims and Christians. They have already poisoned the illiterate hindus. That is why they will support whatever is related to Muslims or Islam , even if they have to stoop to lowest of low levels.

These people have mental issue and inferiority complex of being ruled by Mughals and British. If you go through all the objections against Islam , they are the same cycle which they keep repeating , same 10 - 15 objections. Nothing new !!!

And when you question them about there books , they will proudly claim that they have changed that , modified that. So , they proudly proclaim that they no longer have any base . Today Hinduism is not about following hindu religion , it is about speaking against Islam. That is there only objective.
 
Israel thought them a lesson, if you brew terrorists in your country and they go attack another military might this what happens. Jihads still didnt learn from 9/11, lucky USA didnt decimate us out of existence like bush warned if they get involved in anyway… now thats one shameful comment to our country who kept BIN LADEN.. out of all terrorists :cautious:
 
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No surprise. Hindutwa extremism is no different to zionests or the Nazis of Germany.
All religious fanaticism is the same in thinking the following:

1. They think themselves to be unique and chosen to carry the true word of God
2. They are morally superior to others and are destined for glory
3. They are messengers of peace, violence is only carried by the other non-believers.
4. They have God given right to carry out blood shed because of above 3 points
5. Point 4 does not in anyway disprove the peaceful label in point no. 3
 
India really should be boycotted by the Muslim world, but somehow it's only been Pakistan showing the courage to do the needful. Well done neighbours.
 
India really should be boycotted by the Muslim world, but somehow it's only been Pakistan showing the courage to do the needful. Well done neighbours.
The day the world starts taking Pakistan's narrative seriously and starts acting accordingly, they too will book their next generation's future akin to that of current day Pakistan.
 
India really should be boycotted by the Muslim world, but somehow it's only been Pakistan showing the courage to do the needful. Well done neighbours.
Islamic world couldn't uniformly boycott Israel forget about boycotting India.
The only achievement of Pakistan has been is keeping India out of OIC and curbing the voice of 200 million Muslims in India at the world stage.
 
The day the world starts taking Pakistan's narrative seriously and starts acting accordingly, they too will book their next generation's future akin to that of current day Pakistan.
To be fair Imran Khan did do a good job of tagging Malaysia and Turkey along. A few more foreign tours with his flair and charisma..who knows what would have happened.

India got lucky with Shareef return. They can't take leadership of Ummah like Imran did.
 
To be fair Imran Khan did do a good job of tagging Malaysia and Turkey along. A few more foreign tours with his flair and charisma..who knows what would have happened.

India got lucky with Shareef return. They can't take leadership of Ummah like Imran did.
Pakistan has missed the timing. India is too valuable in global geo-political games to ignore.
Ignoring India means siding with China and that leads to being anti US and hence back to more Western support for India.
 
It is not a surprise . The hindus have been brainwashed by RSS propaganda. RSS was banned thrice , and they do not take part directly into politics but works at found levels , propagating false things about Muslims and Christians. They have already poisoned the illiterate hindus. That is why they will support whatever is related to Muslims or Islam , even if they have to stoop to lowest of low levels.

These people have mental issue and inferiority complex of being ruled by Mughals and British. If you go through all the objections against Islam , they are the same cycle which they keep repeating , same 10 - 15 objections. Nothing new !!!

And when you question them about there books , they will proudly claim that they have changed that , modified that. So , they proudly proclaim that they no longer have any base . Today Hinduism is not about following hindu religion , it is about speaking against Islam. That is there only objective.

Israel supported India twice during wars. A lot of Indians remember how Israel supplied India with arms during Kargil without which India would have found it difficult to win the war.
 
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The day the world starts taking Pakistan's narrative seriously and starts acting accordingly, they too will book their next generation's future akin to that of current day Pakistan.

I am amazed at the posts here. How pakistanis have this sense of entitlement that India and Indians have to follow Pakistan's view on Israel else Indians are extremists etc etc etc.
 
Hindutva ideology mirrors Zionism. Xenophobic and racist to its core. But because Muslims are the primary victims of each, the world turns a blind eye. Doesn't make the ideology any less racist and vile however.
Yes, we hindutva supporters are xenophobic. After suffering invasions and colonialism, we have natural xenophobia. We don't mind being victim shamed for that.
 
I am amazed at the posts here. How pakistanis have this sense of entitlement that India and Indians have to follow Pakistan's view on Israel else Indians are extremists etc etc etc.
Dada, you need to change those words to Hindus. It's Hindus they have a problem with. Anyone in this world who does not side with Palestine is a racist Islamophobe.
 
Dada, you need to change those words to Hindus. It's Hindus they have a problem with. Anyone in this world who does not side with Palestine is a racist Islamophobe.
When they say indians, they mean hindoos. Calling hindoos directly will sound bigoted, but using Indians sounds secular.

Any kind of bigotry can be hidden behind secular words.
 
No surprise. Hindutwa extremism is no different to zionests or the Nazis of Germany.
Islamic extremism is a real thing and probably the worse out there. Nobody other than Brit Paks and Paks takes this claim seriously.
 
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Hindutva ideology mirrors Zionism. Xenophobic and racist to its core. But because Muslims are the primary victims of each, the world turns a blind eye. Doesn't make the ideology any less racist and vile however.
Ya, unfortunately no one is as peaceful, tolerant and accepting as Islamic states. A lot to learn from Pakistan when it comes to these sort of things
 
Dada, you need to change those words to Hindus. It's Hindus they have a problem with. Anyone in this world who does not side with Palestine is a racist Islamophobe.

Yes that too. But i am really amused at their sense of entitlement.
 
This thread and posts by various Pakistani posters (including mods) proved @CricketCartoons right about his analysis in other threads about difference between Muslim and Hindus, and the need for Hindus to change their mindset. It’s really unfortunate but there is a lot of merit in it.
 
You want to change Hindu mindsets towards secularism? I find it somewhat confusing because many on here claim hindus are secular already.

I don’t want to, nor can I change anyone’s mindset.

What I said was the assertions the poster I tagged made in his posts on other threads is probably the need of the hour, given the posts in this thread.
 
All religious fanaticism is the same in thinking the following:

1. They think themselves to be unique and chosen to carry the true word of God
2. They are morally superior to others and are destined for glory
3. They are messengers of peace, violence is only carried by the other non-believers.
4. They have God given right to carry out blood shed because of above 3 points
5. Point 4 does not in anyway disprove the peaceful label in point no. 3
RSS has nothing to do with Hinduism. There objective is to make India Muslim and Christian free . They disregard contributions from those people. But irony is that these fake nationalists were hiding in there house with wives when the others were fighting for Independence.
 
RSS has nothing to do with Hinduism. There objective is to make India Muslim and Christian free . They disregard contributions from those people. But irony is that these fake nationalists were hiding in there house with wives when the others were fighting for Independence.
I would love to hear the source of such brilliant history. :troll
 
RSS has nothing to do with Hinduism. There objective is to make India Muslim and Christian free . They disregard contributions from those people. But irony is that these fake nationalists were hiding in there house with wives when the others were fighting for Independence.

Who contribution was disregarded?

FYI Hindu Mahasabha was leading the political fight for Hindus before independence. RSS was supporting HMS. RSS came into being only in 1927 after Dr. Hegdewar left Congress as he was disillusioned with Gandhi's tactics.

Majority of Muslims in India were with the Muslim league. They were more interested in having a muslim country than supporting independence movement.

The famous speech of Sardar Patel in Calcutta in 1948 laid bare the facts of Muslims in India.
 
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We are not here to judge Israel. Not our war. But Israel has a positive image in India and they have earned it.

By ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their own lands. Says a lot about hindutva movement if these actions are admired by you despite it "not being your war".
 
By ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their own lands. Says a lot about hindutva movement if these actions are admired by you despite it "not being your war".

By helping India in wars when others didn't. That's why they have a positive image in India.

Yes, Israel vs Palestine isn't our war.
 
Okay my dear friend , when RSS want to make it Hindu Rashtra , what do they mean? Will India be ruled according to Manu Smiriti , this is what they mean?
Brother, can you share some research or documentary of RSS which validate your claims? You talk about Manu Smriti, do you even know what does it deal. What are the other Holy texts of Hinduism. Its like saying that is Islam is defined by just Jihad and Sharia.
 
Ok, if you say so.
I know so.

You think the difference in mindset between Muslims and Hindus is secularism when it is the state that is secular not religion, and the state doesn't symbolise religion - hence secularism is the separation of state and religion.

What you actually mean is pluralism, but India is anything but. Look it up.
 
I know so.

You think the difference in mindset between Muslims and Hindus is secularism when it is the state that is secular not religion,

Are you saying Hindus and Muslims are equally secular and that it has nothing to do with their rrespective religions ?
 
Brother, can you share some research or documentary of RSS which validate your claims? You talk about Manu Smriti, do you even know what does it deal. What are the other Holy texts of Hinduism. Its like saying that is Islam is defined by just Jihad and Sharia.
What do you mean by Hindu rashtra ? If you mean majority , then India has always been Hindu majority country in all eras.

I know what Manu Smiriti deals with. But my question was will hindus in India accept the authority of Manu Smiriti instead of constitution as supreme law giver ?

Yes Islam is defined by shariah , I do not think any Muslim will say it is not.
 
What do you mean by Hindu rashtra ? If you mean majority , then India has always been Hindu majority country in all eras.

I know what Manu Smiriti deals with. But my question was will hindus in India accept the authority of Manu Smiriti instead of constitution as supreme law giver ?

Yes Islam is defined by shariah , I do not think any Muslim will say it is not.
Again, I think you lack some skills in comprehension. Let me ask and make the query simpler.
"Is entire Islam defined by Sharia only, are there no other facets to Islam?" Its a yes or no question. I hope thats clear.
First reply to this and then the other pending question about your claims about RSS please. no beating about the bush.
99% of Hindus do not about Manu Smriti in full but I am glad a great scholar like you knows all of it :troll
 
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Again, I think you lack some skills in comprehension. Let me ask and make the query simpler.
"Is entire Islam defined by Sharia only, are there no other facets to Islam?" Its a yes or no question. I hope thats clear.
First reply to this and then the other pending question about your claims about RSS please. no beating about the bush.
99% of Hindus do not about Manu Smriti in full but I am glad a great scholar like you knows all of it :troll

Yes entire Islam principles are dictated by sharia , what is the issue about that statement ? If my statement has any issues , please point out to that.

I am not saying all hindus know about Manu Smiriti. I said that will Manu smriti or any other hindu scripture replace constitution in Hindu Rashtra ? That was my question , not statement.
 
Yes entire Islam principles are dictated by sharia , what is the issue about that statement ? If my statement has any issues , please point out to that.

I am not saying all hindus know about Manu Smiriti. I said that will Manu smriti or any other hindu scripture replace constitution in Hindu Rashtra ? That was my question , not statement.
You are very shaky with your claims and keep switching between statements. Refine and be coherent.
Clear your thoughts and structure a good post that can be responded in a proper manner.
 
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