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No LOI trophies, serially choking in tournament finals. And now India got whitewashed in ODIs for the first time in 31 years. That's the world record for any team not being whitewashed in any format, which got broken today.

He also captained RCB in IPL for 10 years and didn't win a single time despite having Gayle and ABD in prime.

Kohli is a good test captain but he's clearly not good in LOIs, especially ODIs. He's been piggybacking Dhoni and Rohit. Now Dhoni is practically retired and Rohit is injured, thus India got demolished.

He should hand over captaincy to Rohit. Even Tendulkar quit when he had to.
 
He's given Thakur a career, you don't need to know much to know the guy isn't anywhere near good enough for this level.
 
What has Rohit Sharma done to ensure that he’s better option than Kohli. He lost a match against Bangladesh. MIGHTY BANGLADESH in a T20I
 
It's a seasonal thing. Right now IND lost so Kohli bashing will go on for a few weeks or months.
 
Oof .. this was a thrashing of sorts. Well done to the Kiwis! I don't think Kohli did much wrong apart from selecting this well connected Thakur guy.
 
He is too big a figure to play under someone else’s captaincy. He is the face of cricket today and it will be unfair to whoever leads the team in his presence. The spotlight will always be on him.

He is a very good captain but he doesn’t have any luck. However, he will eventually deliver a trophy for India under his captaincy,
 
Jadhav and Thakur were pivotal in losing India this series.

Team selection was terrible to say the least.
 
Check under whose captaincy India won their first ever odi series in SA and Australia before whining,He just needs to win an icc trophy..
 
Injuries to Rohit and Dhawan and the relatively poor form of Kohli and Bumrah were the major factor for this defeat and his captaincy.

Nevertheless, if you have an agenda you will back it no matter what. Losing matches isn’t always down to poor captaincy. There are so many factors and variables that play a part.
 
Mamoon said:
He is too big a figure to play under someone else’s captaincy. He is the face of cricket today and it will be unfair to whoever leads the team in his presence. The spotlight will always be on him.

He is a very good captain but he doesn’t have any luck. However, he will eventually deliver a trophy for India under his captaincy,
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Lol, Player like Sachin has played under many captains, so he can also do that.
 
He came up with a weird statement early on saying the ODIs are low priority. Surprising when your team is considered the best that you would take any match lightly especially when representing your country. I don’t think he deserves the captaincy if that is his mindset.
 
Mamoon said:
Injuries to Rohit and Dhawan and the relatively poor form of Kohli and Bumrah were the major factor for this defeat and his captaincy.

Nevertheless, if you have an agenda you will back it no matter what. Losing matches isn’t always down to poor captaincy. There are so many factors and variables that play a part.
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Kiwis missed Boult, Ferguson, Milne so that make up for the missing players and those in bad form. Try harder bro.
 
IAJ said:
Kiwis missed Boult, Ferguson, Milne so that make up for the missing players and those in bad form. Try harder bro.
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I don’t even have to try. India is ranked 2 in the world and New Zealand is ranked 3, so both teams are top quality and both were missing key players.

Number 3 team beat number 2 team but number 6 team fans are celebrating.
 
Mamoon said:
Injuries to Rohit and Dhawan and the relatively poor form of Kohli and Bumrah were the major factor for this defeat and his captaincy.

Nevertheless, if you have an agenda you will back it no matter what. Losing matches isn’t always down to poor captaincy. There are so many factors and variables that play a part.
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NZ missed Williamson for first 2 matches, Boult (their best bowler) and Ferguson (second best bowler).
I have no agenda here, I even mentioned his RCB record.
 
Tendulkar, Steve Smith etc. are different characters. Kohli is a big personality and the spotlight is always on him when he’s on the pitch.

Asking him to play under Rohit is like asking Imran to play under Wasim in 1992 World Cup. It is not practical.
 
NoBallZombie said:
He came up with a weird statement early on saying the ODIs are low priority. Surprising when your team is considered the best that you would take any match lightly especially when representing your country. I don’t think he deserves the captaincy if that is his mindset.
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That's the main reason I posted this. I can forgive his record but not the loser attitude. He's clearly not fit to be captain with such mindset.
 
Mamoon said:
Tendulkar, Steve Smith etc. are different characters. Kohli is a big personality and the spotlight is always on him when he’s on the pitch.

Asking him to play under Rohit is like asking Imran to play under Wasim in 1992 World Cup. It is not practical.
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Can some Indian poster here please Confirm that Sachin was not a big personality. Better to have this from proper indian fans rather than some wannabees.
 
So reaching tournament finals is not an achievement?

Ask those who go home before the knockouts.

He has been very unlucky in this particular series.

Rohit amd Dhawan injured.
Bumrah still finding his way back from injury.
Kuldeep injured.

Yes people can blame him for playing Thakur and resting Shami.

But that's just about it.

The OP forgets that he just white washed the NZ team in T20s.
 
Mamoon said:
I don’t even have to try. India is ranked 2 in the world and New Zealand is ranked 3, so both teams are top quality and both were missing key players.

Number 3 team beat number 2 team but number 6 team fans are celebrating.
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So your argument in previous post was just stupid as you now confirm both team missed key players.

Kiwis outclassed them, and who is celebrating?
 
IAJ said:
Can some Indian poster here please Confirm that Sachin was not a big personality. Better to have this from proper indian fans rather than some wannabees.
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Even the most loyal Sachin fan will tell you that Kohli is a bigger personality with far greater charisma. Tendulkar was a batting genius but not a leader like Kohli.

I’m not an Indian fan.
 
IAJ said:
Can some Indian poster here please Confirm that Sachin was not a big personality. Better to have this from proper indian fans rather than some wannabees.
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Sachin and Kohli are two different personalities.

FYI Sachin gave up his captaincy saying it affected his batting.
 
IAJ said:
So your argument in previous post was just stupid as you now confirm both team missed key players.

Kiwis outclassed them, and who is celebrating?
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Rohit is a better ODI batsman than anyone NZ has ever produced. His and Dhawan’s absence are bigger blows than Milne and Ferguson.

It’s harder for India to replace Rohit than it is for NZ to replace Milne or Ferguson. Boult is a big miss but it doesn’t compensate for missing both Rohit and Dhawan.
 
IAJ said:
So your argument in previous post was just stupid as you now confirm both team missed key players.

Kiwis outclassed them, and who is celebrating?
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And Pakistani fans are celebrating.

Once again they are “parai shaadi me Abdullah deewana” after the U19 WC final.

When your own team can achieve nothing, the fans are reducing to seeking joy in the defeats of vastly superior sides.
 
This is a year when teams are preparing for t20 WC.. when odi games are won by openers these days , india played 2 debut openers.. so it was all experimenting and positive is middle order is performing..
There are teams who don’t even reach finals and you are complaining of losing a finals.. results will come soon as team settles
Current weakness is lacking a power hitter in lower order and a genuine all rounder..
 
No Indian answered my question. How is Rohit Sharma any better than Kohli as a captain and a player overall.
 
minamino said:
No Indian answered my question. How is Rohit Sharma any better than Kohli as a captain and a player overall.
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Do you really think they will give valid reasons, They're just Kohli haters and nothing more,This was India's first series loss since cwc and they kept on harping about that till now and from now on they will whine about this series loss till he loses another one..
 
minamino said:
No Indian answered my question. How is Rohit Sharma any better than Kohli as a captain and a player overall.
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People are just basing based on Mumbai ipl captaincy.. but captaining a international side is different. Kohli has shown in tests how aggressive and a fine leader he is but just because of some losses in odi semis or finals, he looks bad to some ..
 
Kohli has taken some seriously bad decisions as captain even in tests like in 2018 in RSA he did not play Rahana in first two tests that India lost and they were closely contested tests but when rahana was selected in third test he contributed and played a significant part in winning the third test and he did the same mistake in England test series when Pujara was not first preferred he only got selected once the players kohli selected did not perform,I think England and South Africa test match series in 2018 could have been won by India had kohli captained well but he didn't.there is enough proof out there that suggests kohli dictates things and it did cost India,the test series in New Zealand England and Australia are now crucial for Kohli to prove his captaincy
 
Probably the Best LOI player ever but strangely a very average captain .. just goes to show good players don’t always make good captains or coaches but Kohli has time on his side to rectify this..
 
shahid10 said:
Do you really think they will give valid reasons, They're just Kohli haters and nothing more,This was India's first series loss since cwc and they kept on harping about that till now and from now on they will whine about this series loss till he loses another one..
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Who are you Kohli bh@kt?
 
Mamoon said:
Rohit is a better ODI batsman than anyone NZ has ever produced. His and Dhawan’s absence are bigger blows than Milne and Ferguson.

It’s harder for India to replace Rohit than it is for NZ to replace Milne or Ferguson. Boult is a big miss but it doesn’t compensate for missing both Rohit and Dhawan.
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Rohit averages 35 @ 69 in NZ and has never scored a century here. You could have replaced him with anyone in these conditions.

With the movement that was available, he would have been knocked over early. Dhawan the same.

He's never really worried me as I feel we have his number if the ball is moving and will get him early.
 
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Aman said:
Rohit averages 35 @ 69 in NZ and has never scored a century here.

With the movement that was available, he would have been knocked over early. Dhawan the same.

He's never really worried me as I feel we have his number if the ball is moving and will get him early.
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His game has gone up a notch in the last year and a half. He would have done very well on these pitches and small boundaries.
 
Mamoon said:
His game has gone up a notch in the last year and a half. He would have done very well on these pitches and small boundaries.
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You clearly don't watch the games, Rohit never looks like he's going to get away and the way he plays you feel he's one good ball away from heading back to the pavilion even when he's got a start.

It's not like Kohli who sees out the good balls and makes you earn his wicket, he has a plan and looks to play smart percentage cricket for what the situation requires.
 
It's about time we open a new thread naming "We've forgetten what voctory feels like! Thank you Kohli".

Rohit captained the side in Asia Cup & Nidahas Trophy, too, without Kohli. Didn't he find ways to utilise the available resounces well to win the cups?

Didn't Dhoni win tournament after tournament with the likes of Mohit Sharma, Karthik, Uthappa and Joginder Sharma?

All these excuses about Kohli being unlucky are just about nonsense. You find ways to win matches by using available resouces smartly. That's what you call a true leadership. This clown is an embarassment to Indian cricket. Destroyed the careers of many cricketers in LOIs and on the way to destroying Indian cricket's future, too. The sooner he steps down, the better it is for India and us fans.
 
Aman said:
You clearly don't watch the games, Rohit never looks like he's going to get away and the way he plays you feel he's one good ball away from heading back to the pavilion even when he's got a start.

It's not like Kohli who sees out the good balls and makes you earn his wicket, he has a plan and looks to play smart percentage cricket for what the situation requires.
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I do watch games, and I have seen him score more ODI hundreds in the last two years than probably the entire NZ team.

Your generic analysis of his batting actually suggests that you don’t watch him play. You are describing Rohit of 2014-2015, not 2018-19.

The idea that he only scored on flat tracks is just lazy. Take a look at his century against South Africa in the World Cup in swinging conditions. He is an ODI ATG and at the peak of his powers.

Please don’t pretend that his absence did not benefit New Zealand or did not hurt India. Your team played well and deserved to win, so you don’t have to justify anything.
 
IPL has got the blessings of Ambani so I would take the success of Rohit as a captain of MI with a pinch of salt.
 
Rohit Sharma's record when opening in NZ

Innings: 10
Average: 31.4
SR: 71.68
50s: 3
100s: 0
 
Aman said:
Rohit averages 35 @ 69 in NZ and has never scored a century here. You could have replaced him with anyone in these conditions.

With the movement that was available, he would have been knocked over early. Dhawan the same.

He's never really worried me as I feel we have his number if the ball is moving and will get him early.
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But but but...Rohit is better than Hayden and Dhawan is better than Gilchrist
 
Mamoon said:
I do watch games, and I have seen him score more ODI hundreds in the last two years than probably the entire NZ team.

Your generic analysis of his batting actually suggests that you don’t watch him play. You are describing Rohit of 2014-2015, not 2018-19.

The idea that he only scored on flat tracks is just lazy. Take a look at his century against South Africa in the World Cup in swinging conditions. He is an ODI ATG and at the peak of his powers.

Please don’t pretend that his absence did not benefit New Zealand or did not hurt India. Your team played well and deserved to win, so you don’t have to justify anything.
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I'm clearly talking about NZ, with the seam and swing available early on Rohit would never have survived.

He would have been a sitting duck in the last 2 games.
 
Tendulkar had zero personality literally. He was short, had effeminate voice and was average looking. That all makes Kohli a bigger superstar and personality than him. Give Kohli 5 years and he will break every record of Tendulkar.
 
Rana said:
But but but...Rohit is better than Hayden and Dhawan is better than Gilchrist
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Not sure about Hayden and Gilchrist, but they're surely better than any cricketer Pakistan has ever produced so far in the history of the game.
 
Hilarious reading the excuses and lengths some posters will go to bend over for india. I think the reason why so many pakistani fans are celebrating is because of the irony of some of the posters on here really laughable. Congrats NZ on their flukey 3-0 whitewash of the best thing since sliced bread.
 
cricketjoshila said:
So reaching tournament finals is not an achievement?

Ask those who go home before the knockouts.

He has been very unlucky in this particular series.

Rohit amd Dhawan injured.
Bumrah still finding his way back from injury.
Kuldeep injured.

Yes people can blame him for playing Thakur and resting Shami.

But that's just about it.

The OP forgets that he just white washed the NZ team in T20s.
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Lol, don’t know where to start. I will drop mentioning the players Kiwis did not field in this series and even the excuse of Bumrah. Kuldeep would have been killed on these small grounds.

But you call Kohli for being UNLUCKY after losing 3-0, but in the end you are reminding OP how Kohli whitewashed Kiwis in T20s and I loved the way you avoided using the word LUCK here, where games were much closer, in fact two games went to super over.
 
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I genuinely think Rohit would have fared as well as Shaw did in the last two games. Would have done better than Agarwal though, but who knows, he could have easily nicked off early against Southee, Jamieson or Bennett as there was sideways movement with the new ball and helped us in knocking over India's top order.
 
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Kohli is a terrible white ball captain period. Even in tests, he's okay even though he took some bizarre decisions on team selection during our last tours of SA and Eng.

The sooner the management sacks him as the white ball captain, the better our chances of winning some silverware. Rohit should be our skipper for '23.
 
silentkiller187 said:
Dhawans on par with Fakhar Zaman lets not get too carried away.
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See mate, I like Fakhar Zaman for playing that incredible knock against India. He's the reason you won CT and I adore him for that knock. Let him first come on par with Imam in your own team. Dhawan is a far fetched dream for now.
 
If Kohli is the King of soft runs than Rohit is the Emperor of soft runs. Rohit has hardly ever delivered when it mattered.
 
RainStopsPlay said:
Not sure about Hayden and Gilchrist, but they're surely better than any cricketer Pakistan has ever produced so far in the history of the game.
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Lol here comes the typical Pak v India rant.

Lala, we all know Pakistan have poor batsmen, noone is denying that.
 
minamino said:
Tendulkar had zero personality literally. He was short, had effeminate voice and was average looking. That all makes Kohli a bigger superstar and personality than him. Give Kohli 5 years and he will break every record of Tendulkar.
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What are you basing Kohli’s Uber masculinity on? His tattoos and abusive language?

Virat would get beaten up by one bouncer alone in a nightclub if he were to behave like the way he does sometimes on the field
 
Didn't he already bring shame to India in LOIs by beating Full strength NZ in their own backyard by 3-0 with 2 games to spare last year?
 
Mesozoic said:
:)))

What next ? Rohit on par with Abid Ali ?
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RainStopsPlay said:
See mate, I like Fakhar Zaman for playing that incredible knock against India. He's the reason you won CT and I adore him for that knock. Let him first come on par with Imam in your own team. Dhawan is a far fetched dream for now.
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minamino said:
Joke of the century goes to this post.
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Relax guys it was a joke, winding up indian fans is one of my favourite past times, Dhawan is actually one of my favourite players, but so is zaman :P
 
Rana said:
What are you basing Kohli’s Uber masculinity on? His tattoos and abusive language?

Virat would get beaten up by one bouncer alone in a nightclub if he were to behave like the way he does sometimes on the field
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Lmao Kohli has been very calm since he became the captain If you think King Kohli would get beaten up by one bouncer alone in a nightclub than think about Showbaaz Shadab or Hassan Ali.
 
Aman said:
I'm clearly talking about NZ, with the seam and swing available early on Rohit would never have survived.

He would have been a sitting duck in the last 2 games.
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There is no evidence to back your claim apart from his previous record in New Zealand that is years old.

My evidence is his outrageous record in the last two years against all position and in pretty much every country. Nevertheless, you are free to believe that he would have been a walking wicket in this series.
 
Rana said:
Oh but he is better than Hayden still
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Stop insulting Hayden like that. Hayden is a 3 time WC winner. He had a vital role in each of them whereas Rohit scored only when it was a weak opposition or a useless match.
 
I think we were a few players short at the top order and also missed Shami and late order hitting of Pandya. The best 15- man squad that India can pick for next series is as follows:-

Rohit Sharma
Shikhar Dhawan
Prithvi Shaw
Virat Kohli
Shreyas Iyer
KL Rahul(wkt)
Rishabh Pant(wkt)
Manish Pandey
Hardik Pandya
Ravindra Jadeja
Bhuvaneswar Kumar
Navdeep Saini
Yuzvendra Chahal
Mohammad Shami
Jasprit Bumrah

Outside this, they can fluctuate with Shubhman Gill, Deepak Chahar, Navdeep Saini and Kuldeep Yadav.

It's real high time to get rid of Thakur, Jadhav and Dubey.
 
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minamino said:
Lmao Kohli has been very calm since he became the captain If you think King Kohli would get beaten up by one bouncer alone in a nightclub than think about Showbaaz Shadab or Hassan Ali.
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Both of them would get beaten up together by one bouncer. Kohli would also, chahal would try to help him with his so called bahaduri but would end up in a hospital
 
minamino said:
Lmao Kohli has been very calm since he became the captain If you think King Kohli would get beaten up by one bouncer alone in a nightclub than think about Showbaaz Shadab or Hassan Ali.
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The barman would probably deal with Kohli to be fair, this aggressive nature on field is just an act.
 
Rohit is better than Gilchrist and Hayden, Dhawan is comparable to both but perhaps the Australia duo were slightly better.

Kohli is better than Ponting, so yes, the Indian top 3 is the greatest top 3 in ODI history 2:1, if not 3:0.

Again, please don’t mention the World Cups and all that. World Cup is a collective effort and not down to the top 3 only.

Replace the Australian trio with the Indian trio and they would still win the World Cups. In fact, just give McGrath and Symonds to this Indian team and they will be invincible.

Gilchrist failed in every semifinal of his career but his team was good enough to carry him to the final on each occasion. That’s the luxury of playing for an invincible side.
 
minamino said:
Stop insulting Hayden like that. Hayden is a 3 time WC winner. He had a vital role in each of them whereas Rohit scored only when it was a weak opposition or a useless match.
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What I find so annoying on this forum is that when a particular poster is producing gems like this on a daily basis, none of the sensible Indian fans come out to stop him. Now that it becomes clear like daylight, they decide to say “no Indian fans claimed this”.
 
Mamoon said:
Rohit is better than Gilchrist and Hayden, Dhawan is comparable to both but perhaps the Australia duo were slightly better.

Kohli is better than Ponting, so yes, the Indian top 3 is the greatest top 3 in ODI history.

Again, please don’t mention the World Cups and all that. World Cup is a collective effort and not down to the top 3 only.

Replace the Australian trio with the Indian trio and they would still win the World Cups. In fact, just give McGrath and Symonds to this Indian team and they will be invincible.

Gilchrist failed in every semifinal of his career but his team was good enough to carry him to the final on each occasion. That’s the luxury of playing for an invincible side.
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Here is your chance sensible Indian fans.

Prove me wrong
 
IAJ said:
Kiwis missed Boult, Ferguson, Milne so that make up for the missing players and those in bad form. Try harder bro.
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You forgot Williamson for the first 2 games, which meant Latham had to captain with no captaincy experience. And NZ came off a 5-0 thrashing and were low on confidence and their coach was on holiday.
 
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