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Virat Kohli now has the most tons in ODI chases

Great to see Indians only value individual records guess somethings just never change.....
 
Bottled it when it mattered the most
once vs Johnson in 2015
twice vs King Amir in 2017
 
Kholi tujse nahi hoga chase!

Excellent player, will go down as an ATG batsman if he wins his team a semi final or a final in a Cricket World Cup
 
Kholi tujse nahi hoga chase!

Excellent player, will go down as an ATG batsman if he wins his team a semi final or a final in a Cricket World Cup

yapp he will. Lot of cricket left in him
 
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Great to see Indians only value individual records guess somethings just never change.....

Do you guys even think before post anything??? What individual record??? india is n.o 1 test side by a large margin and i dnt remember when was the last time i saw india outside of top3 ranked odi teams in the world and india is also one of the most consistent teams in icc tournaments. Its not like we are n.o 8 team some day or n.o 6 other day. So what is individual record??
Team is doing good even when there are lot of passangers in the team and we are not playing upto our ability yet.
 
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I admire Kohli. He is probably as big a match winner as warne, wasim, mcgrath, Waugh, gilchrist and Lara.

He is a greater ODI batsman of them all in my opinion. Always performs and the team wins.

Pakistani fans should not forget his achievements and shouldn't talk about only the CT final. The guy is class and deserves respect
 
This only proves what a massive choker he is. 18 centuries in ODI chases, a cyborg whenever he has a target to aim at and the bane of teams like Sri Lanka and West Indies but what does he do in the biggest games?

2015 WC semi-final: 1 (13).
2017 CT final and biggest Indo-Pak game ever: Dismissed twice.

Not to mention that none of these centuries led to his team winning games in Australia, England or South Africa against the respective home teams.
 
Will end up like ABD ,absolutely useless and his useless records in such ODIs.
 
Only foolish fans would celebrate this achievement considering the defeat of CT Finals is still do fresh.
 
Great achievement to have but failed when it mattered the most...
 
Means nothing. He still choked in the two biggest matches of his life that are the CWC 2015 Semi and the Champions Trophy 2017 final, stages where his so called "Chasing prowess" was needed more than anytime else. Having hundreds on these two aforementioned stages would have been better than any number of hundreds he scores in these useless bilaterals against 3rd string teams.
 
Means nothing. He still choked in the two biggest matches of his life that are the CWC 2015 Semi and the Champions Trophy 2017 final, stages where his so called "Chasing prowess" was needed more than anytime else. Having hundreds on these two aforementioned stages would have been better than any number of hundreds he scores in these useless bilaterals against 3rd string teams.

Went missing during 2011 WC Knock out matches too.

Poor AB gets so much stick for failing in WC but this ocerhyped king of Bi-laterals is championed for playing such useless knocks as the recent century in WI.

Got outclassed by Amir twice in two balls. Must hang his head in shame.
 
Went missing during 2011 WC Knock out matches too.

Poor AB gets so much stick for failing in WC but this ocerhyped king of Bi-laterals is championed for playing such useless knocks as the recent century in WI.

Got outclassed by Amir twice in two balls. Must hang his head in shame.

Exactly. Averages 22 in ODI Finals too btw. Most overhyped player of this generation.
 
The amount hate the prolific Kohli gets from Pakistani fans is astonishing. Only second to Viv in ODI's. He's still not even midway through his career and people are still calling him a failure on the basis of a couple of dismissals.
 
The amount hate the prolific Kohli gets from Pakistani fans is astonishing. Only second to Viv in ODI's. He's still not even midway through his career and people are still calling him a failure on the basis of a couple of dismissals.

Unless he scores massively in a WC and leads India to a Victory, Kohli will always remain second to SRT.

Want him to score some runs during the tournaments for which the Nation cares, not these useless Cycle Agarbatti Cups in Zimbabwe and WI.
 
Unless he scores massively in a WC and leads India to a Victory, Kohli will always remain second to SRT.

Want him to score some runs during the tournaments for which the Nation cares, not these useless Cycle Agarbatti Cups in Zimbabwe and WI.

I know this is going to hit a nerve, but SRT isn't even in my top 3 ODI batsmen. The only claim he has to the spot is for his longevity. At the end, he was just dragging on. Sure, he had an astonishingly great peak in the 90's but then again, many batsmen have peaks.
 
if bilateral wins have no meaning why are they played then, play just WCs and CTs in 4 years.
Winning most no. of games for your country is most important and ICC events tops that list.
PP guys behave like bilaterals are club games.

And even king viv choked in 1983 final then? 1975 semi and final, 1987 WC, 1985 benson and hedges cup.

even the worlds greatest player have 40% success rate/innings (except don) and you are judging kohli on just 2 matches?

and you are ignoring kohli's success in:
WC final 2011 (neither success nor failure)
CT 2013 semi : 54* in chase
CT 2013 final : 43 highest scorer for his team (20 overs reduced game)
T20 2014 : 78 and 77 in semi- final and final (mom and mos)
T20 2016 : 89* in semis (highest scorer in tournament)

he has won few games when we were in do or die situation in tri-series or ICC like 133* hobart, 82*vs aus 2016 t20 (this innings earned him ATG level praise from greats of the game- Ian chappel said he is now better than lara in finding gaps who I thought was greatest till now)

where is the outright failure then?? A big player can have failure on big day also its a matter of probabilty (40%) be it kohli sachin or viv
 
if bilateral wins have no meaning why are they played then, play just WCs and CTs in 4 years.
Winning most no. of games for your country is most important and ICC events tops that list.
PP guys behave like bilaterals are club games.

And even king viv choked in 1983 final then? 1975 semi and final, 1987 WC, 1985 benson and hedges cup.

even the worlds greatest player have 40% success rate/innings (except don) and you are judging kohli on just 2 matches?

and you are ignoring kohli's success in:
WC final 2011 (neither success nor failure)
CT 2013 semi : 54* in chase
CT 2013 final : 43 highest scorer for his team (20 overs reduced game)
T20 2014 : 78 and 77 in semi- final and final (mom and mos)
T20 2016 : 89* in semis (highest scorer in tournament)

he has won few games when we were in do or die situation in tri-series or ICC like 133* hobart, 82*vs aus 2016 t20 (this innings earned him ATG level praise from greats of the game- Ian chappel said he is now better than lara in finding gaps who I thought was greatest till now)

where is the outright failure then?? A big player can have failure on big day also its a matter of probabilty (40%) be it kohli sachin or viv

Totally agree. People love to hate greatness.

Kohli got a great ball from Amir. It happens. He did not choke, just got out to an extremely good ball from a good bowler. Essence of batting is one good ball=you can be gone. I am willing to be forgiving of batsmen. They cannot be judged on basis of one innings.
 
if bilateral wins have no meaning why are they played then, play just WCs and CTs in 4 years.
Winning most no. of games for your country is most important and ICC events tops that list.
PP guys behave like bilaterals are club games.

And even king viv choked in 1983 final then? 1975 semi and final, 1987 WC, 1985 benson and hedges cup.

even the worlds greatest player have 40% success rate/innings (except don) and you are judging kohli on just 2 matches?

and you are ignoring kohli's success in:
WC final 2011 (neither success nor failure)
CT 2013 semi : 54* in chase
CT 2013 final : 43 highest scorer for his team (20 overs reduced game)
T20 2014 : 78 and 77 in semi- final and final (mom and mos)
T20 2016 : 89* in semis (highest scorer in tournament)

he has won few games when we were in do or die situation in tri-series or ICC like 133* hobart, 82*vs aus 2016 t20 (this innings earned him ATG level praise from greats of the game- Ian chappel said he is now better than lara in finding gaps who I thought was greatest till now)

where is the outright failure then?? A big player can have failure on big day also its a matter of probabilty (40%) be it kohli sachin or viv

Allow me to shatter your dreams:

1) ODIs =\= T20s. It doesn't matter what he did in WT20s when thr discussion is about ODI cricket. So all those T20 matches don't count and neither does his 40 runs in the final of the 2013 CT, which was a T20 match.

2) 30 runs are apparently a success? Given that you didn't call it a success either, why even mention that innings?

3) Don't ever put Viv and Kohli in the same sentence again.

All Kohli has to show for all his 'tailunt' is a 50 in a CT semi-final, against who, I don't even remember.
 
Amazing batsman

He is also now the joint third in the most 100s (24) in ODI wins. Only behing ponting(25) and Tendulker(33)
 
Allow me to shatter your dreams:

1) ODIs =\= T20s. It doesn't matter what he did in WT20s when thr discussion is about ODI cricket. So all those T20 matches don't count and neither does his 40 runs in the final of the 2013 CT, which was a T20 match.

2) 30 runs are apparently a success? Given that you didn't call it a success either, why even mention that innings?

3) Don't ever put Viv and Kohli in the same sentence again.

All Kohli has to show for all his 'tailunt' is a 50 in a CT semi-final, against who, I don't even remember.

hehehe...you didn't got what I stated
 
People bringing pyjama cricket like T20 to try to hide Kohli's inadequacies is all you need to know about Kohli's so called "class". By that same yardstick, Marlon Samuels must be an all time great with not one but two MoTMs in WC Finals, something no one else in history has ever accomplished. Where are his garlands? Where is his publicity? At the end of the day, Kohli is just a mediocre pressure players who has FAILED many more times than he has delivered on the big stage. OVERRATED.
 
People need to chill. This is still a great achievement. Had it been Babar Azam or someone from our team, he would have been compared to Bradman.
 
Went missing during 2011 WC Knock out matches too.

Poor AB gets so much stick for failing in WC but this ocerhyped king of Bi-laterals is championed for playing such useless knocks as the recent century in WI.

Got outclassed by Amir twice in two balls. Must hang his head in shame.


He was too young in 2011 WC, can't count that.
 
Unfortunately Indian fans and their media focus too much on hundreds, centuries and individuality. Sir Len Hutton, Wally Hammond, Sutcliffe, Barry Richards Bradman, Viv Richards, Gary Sobers and Steve Smith are all higher in class and temperament than Kohli. Virat Kohli technically failed in 2011 World Cup Semi finals and Final. Obviously he failed in CT final and WC Semi Final 2015. His innings in WT20 Semi final against West indies was still not enough to win them the match. Kohli is like Lionel Messi, he will be good against mediocre teams in group stages of big tournaments but in bigger games they go missing. Until Virat Kohli does not play a Fakhar Zaman CT Final innings, Viv Richards 79 WC final innings or Gilchrist 07 final or Ponting 2003 final innings he will not be classified in the same books as ATG. His test average is just normal, Steve Smith averages 62. Kohli can never match such type of average. By the way Kohli was exposed in England tour 2014 as well. He does not have a Test 300. Since people want to makehim
Super human then he should match such super human things. Batting is so easier now a days due to helmets and small boundaries and patta flat wickets, his Test average should have been minimum 70. Yes since he is super human therefore his average should have been 70. Reality is Younis Khan has better average than him in Tests.
 
Virat the King Kohli once again silencing his critics. Champion human being. Champion player. King Kohli all the way
 
Will end up like ABD ,absolutely useless and his useless records in such ODIs.

Part of the problem is with Indian culture, why fans and media only focus on one guy? - First it was Gavaskar, then Tendulkar and now Kohli. India has Billion population, they could make more heros, why one guy in each era? That mentality is one of the reason they have not produce world class all-round team, like AUS and WI, despite lot of people and money at their disposal...We had world class players, GOATs but we never worship them like Indians do. Indian Fans also love their records lot more than fans another country do... Indian are still very touchy about Tendulkar records, quite a few of them are not that useful, he stall the team like Misbah for last 2/3 years and only won WC at the back of juniors like Yuvi and Dhoni, not on his own...
 
Part of the problem is with Indian culture, why fans and media only focus on one guy? - First it was Gavaskar, then Tendulkar and now Kohli. India has Billion population, they could make more heros, why one guy in each era? That mentality is one of the reason they have not produce world class all-round team, like AUS and WI, despite lot of people and money at their disposal...We had world class players, GOATs but we never worship them like Indians do. Indian Fans also love their records lot more than fans another country do... Indian are still very touchy about Tendulkar records, quite a few of them are not that useful, he stall the team like Misbah for last 2/3 years and only won WC at the back of juniors like Yuvi and Dhoni, not on his own...

Mate,many people I know have lost interest in records and its not about worshiping,Kohli has always been famous only in certain areas ,similar to Ganguly or Dhoni,the problem is Indian population is huge so even when a players is famous in 3-4 states it probably is near to population of Europe.

Also its basically media and interested parties creating superstars just for the game similar to in club football or even basketball.

Sachin is the only one who was liked in all quarters and yes one reason being the entire team was terrible and he was always carrying them around in 90's,he is the only exception.
 
Part of the problem is with Indian culture, why fans and media only focus on one guy? - First it was Gavaskar, then Tendulkar and now Kohli. India has Billion population, they could make more heros, why one guy in each era? That mentality is one of the reason they have not produce world class all-round team, like AUS and WI, despite lot of people and money at their disposal...We had world class players, GOATs but we never worship them like Indians do. Indian Fans also love their records lot more than fans another country do... Indian are still very touchy about Tendulkar records, quite a few of them are not that useful, he stall the team like Misbah for last 2/3 years and only won WC at the back of juniors like Yuvi and Dhoni, not on his own...

What are you talking about? SRT was the highest run scorer for India during the 2011 WC and second Highest Scorer of the tournament.

He was the second most important member of the WC Winning Side after Yuvraj.

You are comparing SRT with a Poor ODI batsman like Misbah as if Sachin in his last WC was reduced to levels of 1996 Miandad.

Tendulkar won WC on Back of Juniors :))):))):)) Shows your lack of knowledge of 2011 WC..... Maybe you are confusing him with Old Imran Khan whose legacy was sealed by Juniors during the 92 WC.
 
What are you talking about? SRT was the highest run scorer for India during the 2011 WC and second Highest Scorer of the tournament.

He was the second most important member of the WC Winning Side after Yuvraj.

You are comparing SRT with a Poor ODI batsman like Misbah as if Sachin in his last WC was reduced to levels of 1996 Miandad.

Tendulkar won WC on Back of Juniors :))):))):)) Shows your lack of knowledge of 2011 WC..... Maybe you are confusing him with Old Imran Khan whose legacy was sealed by Juniors during the 92 WC.
Sachin Choke Tendulkar failed in 2003 world cup final. Failed in 2011 world cup final. Imran khan who was actually an all rounder was highest scorer from both sides in 1992 world cup final. Lets not forget Chennai choke. And Imran's Test series win against Gavaskar in 87.
 
What are you talking about? SRT was the highest run scorer for India during the 2011 WC and second Highest Scorer of the tournament.

He was the second most important member of the WC Winning Side after Yuvraj.

You are comparing SRT with a Poor ODI batsman like Misbah as if Sachin in his last WC was reduced to levels of 1996 Miandad.

Tendulkar won WC on Back of Juniors :))):))):)) Shows your lack of knowledge of 2011 WC..... Maybe you are confusing him with Old Imran Khan whose legacy was sealed by Juniors during the 92 WC.

Dilshan was the highest scorer in that world Cup who scored a mere 18 runs more than Sachin.
 
Mate,many people I know have lost interest in records and its not about worshiping,Kohli has always been famous only in certain areas ,similar to Ganguly or Dhoni,the problem is Indian population is huge so even when a players is famous in 3-4 states it probably is near to population of Europe.

Also its basically media and interested parties creating superstars just for the game similar to in club football or even basketball.

Sachin is the only one who was liked in all quarters and yes one reason being the entire team was terrible and he was always carrying them around in 90's,he is the only exception.

India need to diversify their Cricket culture, without fast bowling as part of the culture, India can never be world beater, no matter how much money they have or can generate. For that to happen think tank, media and people associated to Cricket ECO system need a better strategy. They have gone the opposite way, a rather lazy attitude. All rules, conditions under BCCI running the cricket is doubling down to their strength (aka batting)... IPL is another example, they could make conditions where fast bowling is exciting to view in India... It still felt like one dimensional approach.
 
What are you talking about? SRT was the highest run scorer for India during the 2011 WC and second Highest Scorer of the tournament.

He was the second most important member of the WC Winning Side after Yuvraj.

You are comparing SRT with a Poor ODI batsman like Misbah as if Sachin in his last WC was reduced to levels of 1996 Miandad.

Tendulkar won WC on Back of Juniors :))):))):)) Shows your lack of knowledge of 2011 WC..... Maybe you are confusing him with Old Imran Khan whose legacy was sealed by Juniors during the 92 WC.


You still don't get my point and like most Indian fans jumped to rescue Sachin records :facepalm:

Who cares about the number of runs, in pressure match against AUS, it was Yuvi and in Final Dhoni. Pakistan dropped 5 catches of Tendulkar, and one rigged DRS, that's how Sachin got to 88. Back in 2003, he had his time but he missed that. He dragged his retirement to 2/3 years to make 100 100s and got hammered by 8-0 in AUS/ENG, fans forget the big picture of his records ;-)


Yes, Imran did not won WC 1992 as a bowler, his time was 1987, which he missed. 1992 WC was Wasim's Cup, everybody knows it. Imran's legacy was build on test performance on away tours and as an inspiring leader, his legacy was fast bowling powerhouse that followed him for more than decade. Nobody cares about how many wickets he took or runs he scored. :acp:
 
According to Pak fans Kohli only score in league matches ok I agree that's the only reason we reach finals so often you win tournaments when you reach finals it's a big thing indian team is to much dependent on him so when he falters team collapse under scoreboard pressure! !
 
You still don't get my point and like most Indian fans jumped to rescue Sachin records :facepalm:

Who cares about the number of runs, in pressure match against AUS, it was Yuvi and in Final Dhoni. Pakistan dropped 5 catches of Tendulkar, and one rigged DRS, that's how Sachin got to 88. Back in 2003, he had his time but he missed that. He dragged his retirement to 2/3 years to make 100 100s and got hammered by 8-0 in AUS/ENG, fans forget the big picture of his records ;-)


Yes, Imran did not won WC 1992 as a bowler, his time was 1987, which he missed. 1992 WC was Wasim's Cup, everybody knows it. Imran's legacy was build on test performance on away tours and as an inspiring leader, his legacy was fast bowling powerhouse that followed him for more than decade. Nobody cares about how many wickets he took or runs he scored. :acp:

Hello Imran Cheerleader, stop whinging. Still crying about sachin's lbw. Bringing in conspiracy on everything. Your fielders also dropped catches as they got money from bcci? Stop talking like sore loser. Try to give credit where it's due. Sachin scored run in all important semi. You are trying to give credit to Yuvi who didn't score in semi and final but don't want to appreciate second highest scorer of the tournament. Btw India has currently ton of top quality batsmen. Partly due to sachin. It's Not just your hero who could inspire.
 
Part of the problem is with Indian culture, why fans and media only focus on one guy? - First it was Gavaskar, then Tendulkar and now Kohli. India has Billion population, they could make more heros, why one guy in each era? That mentality is one of the reason they have not produce world class all-round team, like AUS and WI, despite lot of people and money at their disposal...We had world class players, GOATs but we never worship them like Indians do. Indian Fans also love their records lot more than fans another country do... Indian are still very touchy about Tendulkar records, quite a few of them are not that useful, he stall the team like Misbah for last 2/3 years and only won WC at the back of juniors like Yuvi and Dhoni, not on his own...

Btw when did individual player win a world cup on his own. Like to know who that great player his. It's not a single game or test match. Even there you need some support from other players.
 
You still don't get my point and like most Indian fans jumped to rescue Sachin records :facepalm:

Who cares about the number of runs, in pressure match against AUS, it was Yuvi and in Final Dhoni. Pakistan dropped 5 catches of Tendulkar, and one rigged DRS, that's how Sachin got to 88. Back in 2003, he had his time but he missed that. He dragged his retirement to 2/3 years to make 100 100s and got hammered by 8-0 in AUS/ENG, fans forget the big picture of his records ;-)


Yes, Imran did not won WC 1992 as a bowler, his time was 1987, which he missed. 1992 WC was Wasim's Cup, everybody knows it. Imran's legacy was build on test performance on away tours and as an inspiring leader, his legacy was fast bowling powerhouse that followed him for more than decade. Nobody cares about how many wickets he took or runs he scored. :acp:

You are very great at twisting facts. First you claim that Sachin won WC on back of juniors which is a lame statement, Sachin's tally of runs in the tournament is testimony to the fact that he provided great starts at the Top.

Before giving Bashans to Indians regarding their Cricket culture, you first need to understand that Cricket is a team Game. An openers job is to provide good starts at the top, if Sachin bats till the end against Australia, it wouldn't look like India were in pressure at all. He even scored a decent half century against Australia in the Quarters and gave a more than smooth start to the innings, which should have been a cakewalk if not for a minor collapse in the middle before Yuvraj rescued. Does it mean Sachin's runs at the Top have no value?

Dhoni choked in both the quarters as well as Semis, if not for SRT's runs India would have never got to the finals and Dhoni would have no chance to play the knock against SRL that he did.

India didn't pop up into the finals all of a sudden, it was a team effort and Sachin's role was equally crucial to the teams advancement if not more. Not even a single Indian would deny to discredit him but you seem to have a lot of problems. Sachin had a bad 2007 WC, we all agree to it and that's whats called a bad WC. 2011 was considered to be one of the best performances from him.

Sachin became the first batsman to score a double ton in 2010, that's one year prior to 2011 WC and hence was in on poor form where he was being supported by youngsters as you would like to claim. He played all the World's Cups while on Top of form.

Regarding the point of dropped catches at Mohali, even your Fakhar Zamane would have been dismissed for a low score and lost likely Pakistan would have lost the match if not for the no ball that was bowled.Its all part of the sport, Pakistan didn't take their chances and Sachin kept scoring and got India to a decent score in a match where both Yuvraj and Dhoni failed with the bat.
 
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