Virat Kohli should stay back and fight for his team in Australia

[Faizhassan]

You are beating around the bush. Being an authoritative figure doesn’t mean you have to be disrespectful. Absolutely not.

Let me explain with a simple example. Let’s say you want to buy house A; your wife wants to buy house B.

Both are adamant at their respective positions. Which house will you buy in the end? Who surrenders?

In traditional subcontinent households, the man has the final say. He will get to make the final call on whether to buy house A or B, and it is obviously better if he takes his wife opinion into consideration as well. However, ultimately when he makes the final decision, the wife accepts.

In non-traditional households where the wife gets to make the final call, the husband has to be docile because if he isn’t, there will be a clash between the two. When the couple will keep disagreeing on every minor and major decision, it will result in a divorce.

To maintain balance, one partner has to be dominant because then there will be no agreement on anything.

Okay, there are so many problematic things said by you in your post that it would be a waste of time to respond to you. So if your definition of traditional household is that man being a boss and taking every "major" decision then it means that there is lack of strong female role models in your house.

And dont enforce your opinion about that if husband and wife are respectfully agreeing without being assertive then it means that women is "dominant" and husband is being "docile".

I would suggest again to meet and interact with people, and try to expand your mind because traditional gender roles are changed. Its good to see that people with such regressive mindset are thing of past. As it is a cricket related platform, i would cite example of Wasim Akram, Shoaib Malik and Virat all have credited their wives for their success. And as per your definition, they all must be "docile" men and you are the only who is being a flag bearer of toxic masculinity.

 

[Mamoon]

Okay, there are so many problematic things said by you in your post that it would be a waste of time to respond to you. So if your definition of traditional household is that man being a boss and taking every "major" decision then it means that there is lack of strong female role models in your house.

And dont enforce your opinion about that if husband and wife are respectfully agreeing without being assertive then it means that women is "dominant" and husband is being "docile".

I would suggest again to meet and interact with people, and try to expand your mind because traditional gender roles are changed. Its good to see that people with such regressive mindset are thing of past. As it is a cricket related platform, i would cite example of Wasim Akram, Shoaib Malik and Virat all have credited their wives for their success. And as per your definition, they all must be "docile" men and you are the only who is being a flag bearer of toxic masculinity.

Who said anything about the absurd notion that your wife cannot play a role in your success?

You have gone on a tangent because you cannot support your feeble argument that both partners have equal decision making authority. No they do not.

Again, in traditional subcontinent households, husbands usually have the final decision making authority. This does not mean the following:

- they are tyrannical
- they treat wives like slaves
- they are misogynistic
- they are disrespectful
- their wives do not play an important role in their success

You fail to understand the point that it is impossible for both partners to have equal decision-making power. If their is a disagreement then one partner has to compromise, or at least make a bigger compromise.

If the role is reversed and the wife assumes the more assertive role, then the husband has to take a step back and accept her assertion. If he does not do that, the marriage will not function.

 

[Faizhassan]

Who said anything about the absurd notion that your wife cannot play a role in your success?

You have gone on a tangent because you cannot support your feeble argument that both partners have equal decision making authority. No they do not.

Again, in traditional subcontinent households, husbands usually have the final decision making authority. This does not mean the following:

- they are tyrannical
- they treat wives like slaves
- they are misogynistic
- they are disrespectful
- their wives do not play an important role in their success

You fail to understand the point that it is impossible for both partners to have equal decision-making power. If their is a disagreement then one partner has to compromise, or at least make a bigger compromise.

If the role is reversed and the wife assumes the more assertive role, then the husband has to take a step back and accept her assertion. If he does not do that, the marriage will not function.

I find it quite amusing that you are contradicting yourself, like you called Kohli a "docile" individual, which is a term that has negative connotation. And I dont know who your role models are, but there are many cases that wife and husband both are strong, and they use sound rationale argument so that other person can understand each other rather than "submitting" to the authoritative figure.

Again, I would like people like you to come out of your basement, expand your line of thinking and you might find people who would be different than your perceived notion about how a "functional" marriage is supposed to work out.

Case in point my own personal example, my wife is a Doctor and is quite assertive, but I also tend to get my point across. So again, I am quite fortunate that I am surrounded by good female role models and would really same is the case with other people.

 

[TeamPak95]

India minus Kohli, along with injuries, have won a test and drawn one. Even if they lose badly in the last test and the series, even with getting 36 all out, I wouldn't really call it a unsuccessful test series. People debate about who's the greatest Asian test team, but at the very least India of 2014-present are the best Asian test team to tour Australia.

 

[someone21]

Imagine people thinking a meaningless tour is more important than the birth of your own kid.

An individual's personal life is more important than Cricket.

Kohli had a choice, and choice is always a luxury. At least acknowledge that. He knows he won't lose out his place, if he takes a break for whatsoever reason.

There are many people out there who are not there for birth of their own child. They simply don't have choice, and have to work instead. Here, a less established cricketer would have given up his personal family time, just to be on the tour...

 

[Faizhassan]

Kohli had a choice, and choice is always a luxury. At least acknowledge that. He knows he won't lose out his place, if he takes a break for whatsoever reason.

There are many people out there who are not there for birth of their own child. They simply don't have choice, and have to work instead. Here, a less established cricketer would have given up his personal family time, just to be on the tour...

Its not about the choice, its about being right. And organizations around the world are even more receptive to giving men parental leaves. There must be something right with it. I mean at the end of the day it is a cricket match and has to be taken like one. He has his own life and does not owe anything to dimwits who are obsessed with a form of entertainment.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Kohli had a choice, and choice is always a luxury. At least acknowledge that. He knows he won't lose out his place, if he takes a break for whatsoever reason.

There are many people out there who are not there for birth of their own child. They simply don't have choice, and have to work instead. Here, a less established cricketer would have given up his personal family time, just to be on the tour...

His employer doesn't have a problem, and that is what matters. social media trolls are never happy.

 

[Mamoon]

I find it quite amusing that you are contradicting yourself, like you called Kohli a "docile" individual, which is a term that has negative connotation. And I dont know who your role models are, but there are many cases that wife and husband both are strong, and they use sound rationale argument so that other person can understand each other rather than "submitting" to the authoritative figure.

Again, I would like people like you to come out of your basement, expand your line of thinking and you might find people who would be different than your perceived notion about how a "functional" marriage is supposed to work out.

Case in point my own personal example, my wife is a Doctor and is quite assertive, but I also tend to get my point across. So again, I am quite fortunate that I am surrounded by good female role models and would really same is the case with other people.

What contradiction? Kohli has a dominating wife who is taking the big decisions for him. First he moved him out of Delhi, now she called him back from an Indian tour in Australia and in the future she will decide when he retires.

Kohli is one of the most committed and determined cricketers ever. An 18 year old who saved a FC match for his state with an unbeaten century hours after cremating his father and having not slept all night will not leave his team hanging in a Test series in Australia to attend the birth of his child.

King Kohli is no king at home.

 

[Faizhassan]

What contradiction? Kohli has a dominating wife who is taking the big decisions for him. First he moved him out of Delhi, now she called him back from an Indian tour in Australia and in the future she will decide when he retires.

Kohli is one of the most committed and determined cricketers ever. An 18 year old who saved a FC match for his state with an unbeaten century hours after cremating his father and having not slept all night will not leave his team hanging in a Test series in Australia to attend the birth of his child.

King Kohli is no king at home.

Its not about being dominating, if they have mutually decided to move to Bombay, as she is a producer and it benefits both of them then I dont see what wrong with that.

And people grow, evolve and their priorities change with the passage of time, there is nothing wrong with that. If he is putting his family first, and is happy doing so then I dont see any problem with that.

I mean guy has spent decade in a public sphere in a country which rips him to shreds for one failure, so he deserves his break.

 

[MenInG]

Dont get personal with each other

 

[someone21]

Its not about the choice, its about being right. And organizations around the world are even more receptive to giving men parental leaves. There must be something right with it. I mean at the end of the day it is a cricket match and has to be taken like one. He has his own life and does not owe anything to dimwits who are obsessed with a form of entertainment.

Incorrect. Its a right if everybody else can get it also. Kohli got “luxury” for many weeks off. Whereas, some regular people wont even get a day off, let alone weeks off.

They dont represent common man, as they have choices which is a luxury itself. All their statements about how they would “die for the team” is flimsy and nonsensical.

And its true for many sporting teams, many staff on lower tier dont even get liveable wages, insurance or other such employee benefits.

 

[Mean&Green]

This series win proves India play with freedom without Virat Kohli

This has been the most incredible win and series for any touring team in Australia. After being blown away for 36 in the first test no one had ever expected this. But this all came after kohli left the team and Rohit and ajinkya rahane took over. India plays totally differently without kohli they play fearlessly and with a lot of more freedom. I feel players are scared and inferior to kohli when they play under him. But rahane and Rohit are calm and smart captains they are aggressive but with their cricket tactics not with their mouth. I personally believe this wouldn’t have been achieved if kohli stayed and captained this side the result could have been very different. Also India had nothing to lose without their main 8 players this is an incredible incredible performance especially after their own coach said no other captain would achieve this in Australia other than kohli and ajinkya has even proved shastri wrong incredible incredible performance hats off.

 

[Napa]

You are probably right. The Indian team hasn't done well in NZ and AUS with Kohli as captain. Kohli is aggressive and that has value, but India has so much talent that if properly utilized by a captain like Rahane it becomes a better team.

 

[liam26]

Thank God the Bad Omen went back home. India avoided defeat in all the three tests without Kohli. India would have never won the series had he decided to stay with the team.

Serves him well to not be a part of this series win in Australia. His stocks have seriously fallen after this Series victory. The team can perform and achieve much better without him.

 

[Mean&Green]

You are probably right. The Indian team hasn't done well in NZ and AUS with Kohli as captain. Kohli is aggressive and that has value, but India has so much talent that if properly utilized by a captain like Rahane it becomes a better team.

Exactly I believe players are always scared of kohli as a captain and his decision making and the emotions he shows towards the players after they drop a catch or mis field. Which I have not seen rahane show even once during this series even though India had tons of drops and misfields in this series.

 

[Mamoon]

No, you are wrong as usual.

This is the latest coping mechanism by our fans and it is not true at all.

Please don’t try to disagree with me, it doesn’t age well.

Kohli is the GOAT Asian Test captain. The mentality and fight of this Indian team is his legacy.

If Kohli was not the captain over the past 6 years and Rahane was leading the side, the outlook of this Indian would have been different.

They would still be great, but Kohli has played a huge contribution in making them the GOAT Asian Test team.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Kohli does the same with RCB team even with Gayle/McCullum/ABDV/Himself

 

[Rafa]

Kohli must have expected that the fans would be crying and missing him but opposite happened.

Infact India should persist with Rahane as the Test Captain and give Kohli a break. Rahane can't do worse than him.

 

[MP2011]

We surely need Kohli the batsman but certainly not Kohli the captain.

 

[Ab Fan]

I think future is actually better, till now we have been beast only where you expect us to be. But now with Gill, Pant, Bumrah, Siraj, Sundar and rest, I feel the best is yet to come.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

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[Last Monetarist]

He's missed out on the series of his lifetime, but I hope that baby's cute.

At least, the PC brigade would be satisfied.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

[MENTION=139758]pillionrider[/MENTION]

Imagine what Kohli must be feeling now lol.

 

[Buffet]

Kohli won the last series in Aus. Kohli plays to win pretty much all tests and by doing so he will lose some tests as well. But it's far better to win some key away series than just trying to not lose.

This team had the attitude of Kohli.

 

[Abhilash93]

Kohli is an atrocious judge of talent.

Thanks to Rahane for finally getting Gill and Pant into the team.

 

[Proactive_]

No thanks.

I'm more than looking forward to an Indian Test team for 3 straight test matches without Kohli as the captain. Imagine if India manages to fight and maybe even take a game off Australia with a much more level headed captain in Rahane at the helm. He has the opportunity to continue what he started at Dharamsala 2017 - and that's proving how overhyped of a captain Kohli is.

Sounds like Rahane's more than delivered what I envisioned.

Now see Kohli come back to captaincy despite leading India to one humiliation after another overseas with full strength teams.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Test captain Kohli is very very good. Only aspect of his captaincy that is hit & miss is the team selection.

 

[Savak]

No need to take pot shots at Kohli. Indians can take pride and comfort at the fact that their team is much more than Kohli and that only augers well for their present and future. Can you imagine Australia without Smith and Warner? Imagine England without Root and the likes of Anderson-Broad? Imagine NZ without Williamson?

Lol an average Pakistani side was able to beat Australia in the UAE without Smith, Warner and apart from that series win, the likes of Sarfaraz-Mickey had an atrocious record in the UAE

 

[Mean&Green]

No, you are wrong as usual.

This is the latest coping mechanism by our fans and it is not true at all.

Please don’t try to disagree with me, it doesn’t age well.

Kohli is the GOAT Asian Test captain. The mentality and fight of this Indian team is his legacy.

If Kohli was not the captain over the past 6 years and Rahane was leading the side, the outlook of this Indian would have been different.

They would still be great, but Kohli has played a huge contribution in making them the GOAT Asian Test team.

It has always aged well for me to disagree to your essays but I’m sorry you are not my choice of audience here. When almost all the Indian posters here agree with me I couldn’t care at all what a kohli fan boy has to say.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Sounds like Rahane's more than delivered what I envisioned.

Now see Kohli come back to captaincy despite leading India to one humiliation after another overseas with full strength teams.

Rahane has to deliver with the bat as well.

 

[dildilpak]

The true worth of Kohli will be realised as soon as these guys travel to England or SA. Rahane did will here, but no doubt thus is Kohli’s team.

 

[Proactive_]

Rahane has to deliver with the bat as well.

He's much better than what Ganguly was at No.5 (especially overseas) and Ganguly captained for multiple years. It's a no brainer after this series to appoint Rahane as the full time captain. Not to mention he was one of the standout performers at Melbourne, an Indian overseas win in this very series so it's not all doom and gloom with his batting.

Rahane is far too good a leader and captain to sacrifice in search for a "potentially" better No.5.

 

[pillionrider]

[MENTION=139758]pillionrider[/MENTION]

Imagine what Kohli must be feeling now lol.

yeah. Every year, the kid's birthday will unfortunately be a bittersweet event. Feel a bit sorry for him because of the passion that he has played with India for. But he's taken himself a bit too seriously of late.

 

[Mamoon]

It has always aged well for me to disagree to your essays but I’m sorry you are not my choice of audience here. When almost all the Indian posters here agree with me I couldn’t care at all what a kohli fan boy has to say.

No, it hasn’t and never will. Besides, anyone who argues that India is better off without Kohli’s presence is talking complete nonsense.

This is Kohli’s team, this is his legacy.

 

[Varun]

Heh - who needs Kohli?

 

[Mean&Green]

No, it hasn’t and never will. Besides, anyone who argues that India is better off without Kohli’s presence is talking complete nonsense.

This is Kohli’s team, this is his legacy.

Not better without him but will definitely be better without his captaincy.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

yeah. Every year, the kid's birthday will unfortunately be a bittersweet event. Feel a bit sorry for him because of the passion that he has played with India for. But he's taken himself a bit too seriously of late.

Pretty much feel the same way lol.

 

[Mamoon]

Not better without him but will definitely be better without his captaincy.

Again, no. Kohli is the GOAT Asian Test captain.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Kohli already won us a series in AUS. Two major debutants Siraj and Sundar are his picks I believe and both delivered. Probably he has a good eye for talent for test cricket .. lol should give up IPL captaincy.

 

[MP2011]

yeah. Every year, the kid's birthday will unfortunately be a bittersweet event. Feel a bit sorry for him because of the passion that he has played with India for. But he's taken himself a bit too seriously of late.

True. He could have easily stayed on for a test more at least but no sir!

 

[MP2011]

Also it shows how many games/series/silverware we may have missed out in Kohli's presence as our captain.

 

[IndoorCricket]

Even Rohit is better captain. But I believe Kohli being a captain is instrumental for this team. You can see his attitude reflecting from this team.

 

[MP2011]

Kohli is an atrocious judge of talent.

Thanks to Rahane for finally getting Gill and Pant into the team.

I'm still shocked to see Shaw & Saha in place of Gill & Pant respectively in the first test. No wonder we lost badly.

 

[Manunited18]

Rehanie has a calming influence, a key ingredient to bring the best out of youngsters who have a attacking mindset

 

[Mean&Green]

No, it hasn’t and never will. Besides, anyone who argues that India is better off without Kohli’s presence is talking complete nonsense.

This is Kohli’s team, this is his legacy.

Yeah clearly better without him when he was doing baby Shona baby Shona with anuskha and Hardik. It’s not about him as a player but it’s about him as a captain ajinkya has proved that now and rohit has proved that in the past that they are better captains than kohli. What legacy are you talking other than that one series win in Australia against a garbage Australian side and Rahanes India smashed a full strength Australian team after kohli was on a plane to India and rahane was captaining India C to the greatest ever series win for India against Australia in Australia and breaching Fort gabba. Kohli will have a legacy once he beats England in England and newzeland in newzeland and South Africa in South Africa heck this Indian team would have smashed that 2018 Aussie team 4-0.

 

[Hasan123]

Mamoon is right. This is just a coping mechanism for our fans. Kohli played a major part in building this test team. He wasn’t playing much in this series, but I'll give him some credif for the mentality of this team.

 

[pillionrider]

This is a one-off and we will lose if we continue to play without Kohli the batsman.

But I think lesser power in his hands is better for India. For the first time with just Rohit and Pujara next to each other in the slips and Pant as wk, you could see the whole lot laughing and being chill even when Aus had partnerships going.

Tough call for the selectors to make because I don't see Kohli giving up captaincy on his own to Rahane.

After years of being camera-unfriendly, Rahane finally has his moment and good for him. There must be something right about him that the team didn't fall apart after Adelaide.

His field placings and bowling changes almost always seemed to work. The number of good shots by Australia that went to fielders was unbelievable after a while.

So awkward backroom conversations lie ahead

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Haha, so after a historic win for India , the only way to get some pleasure from it is blaming the ICC cricketer of the decade.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Haha, so after a historic win for India , the only way to get some pleasure from it is blaming the ICC cricketer of the decade.

Its all fun and games dude.

Dil pe mat Lena.

 

[pillionrider]

I was wondering if Isa would put Rahane on the spot by bringing in Kohli - something like, have you been in touch with Virat, he must be thrilled.

Interesting to note that no one, neither Pant nor Rahane mentioned the missing captain

Pant in fact mentioned missing the first game

 

[Rafa]

So Virat Kohli finally returned back to fight for his team and this happened.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Allahumduillah! Allah has blessed us with the baby girl. Welcome to our family my princess. I wish this little angel have wonderful dreams and May the almighty always be with her to fulfill her dreams on the walk of her life.Ameen please remember in your dua</p>— Hassan Ali (@RealHa55an) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealHa55an/status/1379287092086341633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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So Hassan Ali also away on tour but stays with team.

Guess cultural issues as in Pakistan men still dont consider that important a matter?

 

[ManFan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Allahumduillah! Allah has blessed us with the baby girl. Welcome to our family my princess. I wish this little angel have wonderful dreams and May the almighty always be with her to fulfill her dreams on the walk of her life.Ameen please remember in your dua</p>— Hassan Ali (@RealHa55an) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealHa55an/status/1379287092086341633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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So Hassan Ali also away on tour but stays with team.

Guess cultural issues as in Pakistan men still dont consider that important a matter?

No, it comes down to a personal choice.

And the fact that Kohli is LITERALLY the Indian cricket team while Hasan is on a comeback. Their places in the team are vastly different and thus so are their options.

 

[Mamoon]

Kohli is Anushka’s puppet. She is clearly the dominant partner and calls the shots at home.

Kohli is one of the most determined and passionate cricketers ever. There is no way he would have left the team in Australia to attend his child’s birth if it was his decision to make.

 

[AMSS]

Kohli is Anushka’s puppet. She is clearly the dominant partner and calls the shots at home.

She makes Kohli wear those dorky glasses and trains him in wokespeak.

 

[AMSS]

 

[Slog]

She makes Kohli wear those dorky glasses and trains him in wokespeak.

And I guess wear those tight pants and loafers without socks lol?

 

[iiqbal]

Kohli know he wil not able to run. So decided to run

 

[msb314]

You are beating around the bush. Being an authoritative figure doesn’t mean you have to be disrespectful. Absolutely not.

Let me explain with a simple example. Let’s say you want to buy house A; your wife wants to buy house B.

Both are adamant at their respective positions. Which house will you buy in the end? Who surrenders?

In traditional subcontinent households, the man has the final say. He will get to make the final call on whether to buy house A or B, and it is obviously better if he takes his wife opinion into consideration as well. However, ultimately when he makes the final decision, the wife accepts.

In non-traditional households where the wife gets to make the final call, the husband has to be docile because if he isn’t, there will be a clash between the two. When the couple will keep disagreeing on every minor and major decision, it will result in a divorce.

To maintain balance, one partner has to be dominant because then there will be no agreement on anything.

This is actually a really good analogy so let me add my opinion..

I believe it doesn’t matter who makes the final call. The decision maker is not the one who has power..

What does matter is who is making the compromise and has to back down. For example - whilst it maybe myself who makes the final call whether I buy house A or B - if my wife is unhappy with my preference and I chose to go with House B to satisfy her request. This obviously includes that her preferences and suggestions matter more than mine. She has more influence than I do so she would be considered more dominant at that point.

The fact that I have decision making power becomes irrelevant if my partner is not happy with my “decision” and then I have follow her preferences..

Also - my general observation in desi households is that women are usually subservient during the early years of marriage but gradually become more dominant (or atleast more influential..) as the years go by. Opposite is true of men. This is at least how I have noticed in my own family and with several other close relatives. Not sure if you or anyone else agrees with this..

 

[ManFan]

Kohli is Anushka’s puppet. She is clearly the dominant partner and calls the shots at home.

Kohli is one of the most determined and passionate cricketers ever. There is no way he would have left the team in Australia to attend his child’s birth if it was his decision to make.

You find that a lot in history actually.

Dominant, A-Type personalities are largely submissive in relationships. MJ, Napoleon, Ali, etc.

 

[Suleiman]

Man we need the old Kohli back. What is this Corporate Cohli.

He may need to leave Anushka and come back to the badtameez version of himself that was heading for GOAT status in ODIs.

 

[Bigboii]

Man we need the old Kohli back. What is this Corporate Cohli.

He may need to leave Anushka and come back to the badtameez version of himself that was heading for GOAT status in ODIs.

Imagine if someone actually leaves a woman he has a child with just so he can become better in a damn sport...
that would be both hilarious and sad

his priories in life deserve

 

[Bilal7]

I'm a fan of Kohli now but its funny how people try to credit him for a series win where he captained India for a game they lost badly and then went home.

 

[cricketjoshila]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Allahumduillah! Allah has blessed us with the baby girl. Welcome to our family my princess. I wish this little angel have wonderful dreams and May the almighty always be with her to fulfill her dreams on the walk of her life.Ameen please remember in your dua</p>— Hassan Ali (@RealHa55an) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealHa55an/status/1379287092086341633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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So Hassan Ali also away on tour but stays with team.

Guess cultural issues as in Pakistan men still dont consider that important a matter?

Hassan Ali is on fringes of pakistan team with no settled spot.He could lose his fringe place too of someone else performed during the tour. No such issues with Kohli.

 

[rhony]

I think it depends on a player's position in the team. The same Kohli played a domestic game a day after his dad's death. He's in a secure position now and made a choice. Also, team dynamics play a part. Bumrah was AWOL for the entire England LOIs because of marriage and honeymoon. That's literally weeks. Yes the quarantine issue played a part but I'd the team management can accommodate these requests, you will see players taking a well deserved time off for important events.

 

[Caved12]

This was always going to strengthen his relationship with Anushka, which was way more important than the test series against Australia. I have nothing, but respect for Virat as he was brave enough to say no to this series and flew back to India for the birth of his daughter after the first test. Cricket is just a game and it was only one series, so not a big deal.

 

[Indiafan]

Who said anything about the absurd notion that your wife cannot play a role in your success?

You have gone on a tangent because you cannot support your feeble argument that both partners have equal decision making authority. No they do not.

Again, in traditional subcontinent households, husbands usually have the final decision making authority. This does not mean the following:

- they are tyrannical
- they treat wives like slaves
- they are misogynistic
- they are disrespectful
- their wives do not play an important role in their success

You fail to understand the point that it is impossible for both partners to have equal decision-making power. If their is a disagreement then one partner has to compromise, or at least make a bigger compromise.

If the role is reversed and the wife assumes the more assertive role, then the husband has to take a step back and accept her assertion. If he does not do that, the marriage will not function.

Nope, in most happy relationship BOTH husband and wives compromise at various things depending on need and help each other because they want to and because they respect each other.

You seem to be blindly parroting a lot of MRA and icnely points which are not rooted in reality but the pipe fantasizes of lonely young men online

 

[Indiafan]

And Mamoon hits the ball out of the park.

The ball is gone. Never to return.

What a shot.

What a wonderful shot.

Damn.

Spits facts, triggers feminists (not referring to any poster here) and nails down the core truth.

I Would think such a post should trigger any decent human beibg. Imagine wanting to have just a slave whom you decide everything for. This not marriage, that's just selling your daughter into slavery. I have a daughter, I would never ever want her to enter in a marriahe where she is as an adult a puppet and only her husband decides on her behalf despite she being an adult human being

I am really surprised by lots of people here
Using and supporting vile sexist language, using incrly words like triggered. I guess this thread has exposed lots of peole who pretended to be sensible and civilized but in the end live in the stone age

 

[Slog]

I Would think such a post should trigger any decent human beibg. Imagine wanting to have just a slave whom you decide everything for. This not marriage, that's just selling your daughter into slavery. I have a daughter, I would never ever want her to enter in a marriahe where she is as an adult a puppet and only her husband decides on her behalf despite she being an adult human being

I am really surprised by lots of people here
Using and supporting vile sexist language, using incrly words like triggered. I guess this thread has exposed lots of peole who pretended to be sensible and civilized but in the end live in the stone age

I haven’t followed the thread in a while so don’t know the context but do you disagree with the notion that Kohli is Anushka’s puppet and if the roles were reversed, Anushka wouldn’t do the same thing. It’s not an equal relationship. I only see Kohli making all the compromises.

 

[Indiafan]

The woke posters and feminists will get angry at this, but in traditional south Asian households where men are the earners and women are housewives, husbands are the decision-makers and have the final say in family matters.

That was probably the case in Kohli’s household when he was growing up and in Anushka’s house as well.

However, when a woman becomes very successful and starts earning a lot of money, it is not easy for the husbands to asset their dominance in family decisions. As a result, either of the two partners have to compromise if they want the marriage to work.

In this case, it appears that Kohli is the one who is comprising and Anushka must have told him explicitly or implicitly that he has no business playing cricket during the birth of their child.

Kohli is an extremely committed cricketer. His intensity and determination are unmatched.

A person who scored a match-saving hundred for his state side hours after his cremating his father is highly unlikely to abandon his team during a Test series in Australia, that too as captain.

Kohli can publicly say what he wants, but I am positive that deep down, he would want to stay but he cannot argue with his bossy wife and impose himself because she appears to be the dominant partner.

King Kohli is no king at home.

Where does the child come into the picture here? You pretend it's between the husband and wife but as any would be father knows, seeing the birth of ones own child is one of the most rewarding experiences once can have in my life. By God's grace I have achieved many things in life and have come from a background where I had nothing to now where I have more than enough, had many wonderful moments in life. Yet I wouldn't trade them for missing the moment of my child's birth

Forgive me for saying this as I respect your as a poster, but your notion of marriage and childbirth seems only in abstract and in theory. I dont believe your marriage claim at all. No one who has witnessed their child birth will ever think its only a decision between wife and husband without considering how they feel about the birth and witnessing their child being born

Your points seem to be copy pasted from incel and MRA forums and have outdated debunked discussion points. It is 100% a person discussing a relationship in abstract and not someone speaking from own experience

 

[Suleiman]

Who said anything about the absurd notion that your wife cannot play a role in your success?

You have gone on a tangent because you cannot support your feeble argument that both partners have equal decision making authority. No they do not.

Again, in traditional subcontinent households, husbands usually have the final decision making authority. This does not mean the following:

- they are tyrannical
- they treat wives like slaves
- they are misogynistic
- they are disrespectful
- their wives do not play an important role in their success

You fail to understand the point that it is impossible for both partners to have equal decision-making power. If their is a disagreement then one partner has to compromise, or at least make a bigger compromise.

If the role is reversed and the wife assumes the more assertive role, then the husband has to take a step back and accept her assertion. If he does not do that, the marriage will not function.

You are correct. This is also the case in social dynamics where in a romantic relationship there is always one of the partners fulfilling a more dominant or leader type role while the other is more of a follower. This has been the case in human relationships since time immemorial and has been proven in psychology and study of human beings and behavior as well. As well as in other animals.

Those who think two people in a relationship have equal roles are completely wrong. That is not the case. There is always a masculine and feminine polarity, and btw it’s not always the male that occupies the dominant role, the female can too, meaning the male would follow in that regard.

Again, as you said it does not mean whoever assumes the leader role is to mistreat the other and be a control freak. Throughout the relationship it may also happen for both partners to swap roles as well given the circumstances.

Any relationship where there are two equals is not a relationship, but a platonic friendship.

 

[Indiafan]

I haven’t followed the thread in a while so don’t know the context but do you disagree with the notion that Kohli is Anushka’s puppet and if the roles were reversed, Anushka wouldn’t do the same thing. It’s not an equal relationship. I only see Kohli making all the compromises.

You have ben following too much social media and forums. Their personal equation is something only they know and not what you see in the media

No parent would want to miss their childbirth unless they absolutely have no choice. A new player has no choice as his career is at stake. A super star like kohli does.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION]

I haven’t had a child yet and I am sure it is a life changing experience/event, but deserting the team in that fashion does not look something that an individual like Kohli would do.

Players regularly go back from tours to attend their child’s birth, but the situation here was completely different because of the pandemic.

Kohli couldn’t simply go home for 2-3 days and then come back; it was either staying with the team or missing the entire series.

The way the first Test panned out, it seemed that the wheels were going to come off for India and the remaining series seemed to be a nightmare in the making.

The fact that India won from that point (which admittedly had a lot to do with the mentality Kohli has instilled in the players) does not justify Kohli deserting the team in that situation.

A player who had the mentality to score a match-saving hundred for his state team hours after cremating his father is not going to desert his team in a Test series in Australia as captain. It seems highly unlikely tor someone of his character and determination.

Hassan Ali had a daughter two days ago and he is still in South Africa even though the ongoing series is not a high profile one.

Kohli would have definitely stayed back in Australia if it was his decision to make.

I don’t why people take offense to the assessment that Anushka is a dominating wife.

She had him moved out of his house in Gurgaon where he was living with his mother. A beautiful house that he had built with his cricket earnings only a few years back.

The excuse that Bollywood is in Mumbai is not a valid one. She owns plenty of property in Mumbai already and she can easily move between Mumbai and their home in Gurgaon. There was no need for the relocate.

I wonder who his poor mother lives with now. She is probably on her own with house servants or maybe she has moved into her elder son’s place. Even if Kohli wants her to live with them in their luxury Mumbai apartment, Anushka will not let it happen.

I bet all the major decisions so far - the destination wedding, Italy as venue, when to have a child, whether to have more children in the future or not, when to show the baby’s face in public etc. - all of them are Anushka’s decisions. She is clearly the one wearing the pants in their household.

I get she will greatly influence the decision of his retirement as well.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I Would think such a post should trigger any decent human beibg. Imagine wanting to have just a slave whom you decide everything for. This not marriage, that's just selling your daughter into slavery. I have a daughter, I would never ever want her to enter in a marriahe where she is as an adult a puppet and only her husband decides on her behalf despite she being an adult human being

I am really surprised by lots of people here
Using and supporting vile sexist language, using incrly words like triggered. I guess this thread has exposed lots of peole who pretended to be sensible and civilized but in the end live in the stone age

lmao...projection much.

Keep at it buddy.

 

[Ab Fan]

[MENTION=3327]Indiafan[/MENTION]

I haven’t had a child yet and I am sure it is a life changing experience/event, but deserting the team in that fashion does not look something that an individual like Kohli would do.

Players regularly go back from tours to attend their child’s birth, but the situation here was completely different because of the pandemic.

Kohli couldn’t simply go home for 2-3 days and then come back; it was either staying with the team or missing the entire series.

The way the first Test panned out, it seemed that the wheels were going to come off for India and the remaining series seemed to be a nightmare in the making.

The fact that India won from that point (which admittedly had a lot to do with the mentality Kohli has instilled in the players) does not justify Kohli deserting the team in that situation.

A player who had the mentality to score a match-saving hundred for his state team hours after cremating his father is not going to desert his team in a Test series in Australia as captain. It seems highly unlikely tor someone of his character and determination.

Hassan Ali had a daughter two days ago and he is still in South Africa even though the ongoing series is not a high profile one.

Kohli would have definitely stayed back in Australia if it was his decision to make.

I don’t why people take offense to the assessment that Anushka is a dominating wife.

She had him moved out of his house in Gurgaon where he was living with his mother. A beautiful house that he had built with his cricket earnings only a few years back.

The excuse that Bollywood is in Mumbai is not a valid one. She owns plenty of property in Mumbai already and she can easily move between Mumbai and their home in Gurgaon. There was no need for the relocate.

I wonder who his poor mother lives with now. She is probably on her own with house servants or maybe she has moved into her elder son’s place. Even if Kohli wants her to live with them in their luxury Mumbai apartment, Anushka will not let it happen.

I bet all the major decisions so far - the destination wedding, Italy as venue, when to have a child, whether to have more children in the future or not, when to show the baby’s face in public etc. - all of them are Anushka’s decisions. She is clearly the one wearing the pants in their household.

I get she will greatly influence the decision of his retirement as well.

A proper Virat Kohli fan type statement this [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as everything you mentioned here is an assumption.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I'm a fan of Kohli now but its funny how people try to credit him for a series win where he captained India for a game they lost badly and then went home.

Finally Bilal bhai and me agree on something.

1000%.

We won COS Kohli left.

If he was there, no way in hell we would have won.

 

[Mamoon]

A proper Virat Kohli fan type statement this [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as everything you mentioned here is an assumption.

The contrary argument to the above is also an assumption, so it depends on which assumption you believe in.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Credit for Aus series win goes to Rahane, Pant and others not Kohli. I too don't think we would have won this series had Kohli played in all tests.

Also I won't blame Kohli for taking a break to see his newly born baby. He has earned so much money in his life but if he hadn't experienced this moment he would have regretted it later.

 

[Kroll]

A proper Virat Kohli fan type statement this [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] as everything you mentioned here is an assumption.

There has been a recent trend with celebrities / sports stars showing off like this and Anushka wanted to keep up with the Joneses. He's definitely right, Anushka wears the trousers in this relationship.

 

[Mahee]

the moment king kohli started falling for anushka sharma, India stopped winning ICC trophies