VVS Laxman vs Inzamam-ul-Haq - Better Test batsman?

[DeadlyVenom]

Not sure that it is to be honest.

Fair enough bro, if that how you feel I dont think I can convince you otherwise

 

[Zaz]

Gilly avgs 47 in tests as well and will walk into any team ahead of Inzy just on basis of his batting.

Is this the same gilly that has the same number of tests 100s as vvs but in nearly 40 less tests? ) )

 

[James]

IMO big gaps between players seem to develop when the average is a difference of 5+

You have your
56-60 players
51-55 players
46-50 players
41-45 players
36-40 players
and so on

It works pretty well when we look at career averages of batsmen and how good they actually were.

 

[Abhinav_MrCricket]

Inzamam-Terrific talent. Should have been in the league of Sachin,Ponting,Lara,Kallis but fell short maybe coz he din't work that hard.

Laxman-Not as much talented as Inzi but worked hard and achieved a lot.

ODI Cricket-Inzamam way way better.

Test Cricket-Inzamam slightly better. Juss a bit.

So,overall,widout a doubt Inzamam!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Inzamam-Terrific talent. Should have been in the league of Sachin,Ponting,Lara,Kallis but fell short maybe coz he din't work that hard.

Laxman-Not as much talented as Inzi but worked hard and achieved a lot.

ODI Cricket-Inzamam way way better.

Test Cricket-Inzamam slightly better. Juss a bit.

So,overall,widout a doubt Inzamam!

Agree with the majority of this post!

 

[intothevoid]

Inzi hands down.

 

[Gulldozer]

Inzi all the way

 

[Bullet Drive]

Inzi all the way.

 

[Mobashir]

Inzamam-ul-Haq is better than VVS Laxman in every format of the game!
Laxman is also a brilliant Test batsman, he has won many matches for India. He is also one of the best batsman when playing with the tail.

But Inzamam il as a class above Laxman, he plays equally well if not better with the tail, this is something many people are forgetting!

 

[ecstatic_freak]

Only if Inzy's love for Aaloo was not that strong he would have been among the greats but still, he is way better than Luxman in any format.

 

[Foozee]

Inzimam.. all the way..

 

[Romali_rotti]

No doubt Inzi is the more talented and complete bat but the fact that he never showed up vs OZ or SA is enuff for me to choose Laxman ahead of INZI...

 

[Monsee]

^^^Like he is showing up now, or any time in the past when conditions were a bit difficult?

His average against Aussies is highly inflated due to scores on dead dabba home pitches mostly...barring one or two innings in Australia which again only on helpful batting tracks

 

[Romali_rotti]

^^^Like he is showing up now, or any time in the past when conditions were a bit difficult?

His average against Aussies is highly inflated due to scores on dead dabba home pitches mostly...barring one or two innings in Australia which again only on helpful batting tracks

Take off the blinkers man, Inzi vs Oz & SA have always been like how Laxman is currently doing in a rare few bad series against Oz ohh and the series is still not over yet so an EGG might be coming your way.. Lets not open up the statbook as it will make INZI look quite bad against 2 of the best sides of his era...I mean seriously this thread got a bump when Laxman is having a bad series that alone tells you something....

 

[Zaz]

Take off the blinkers man, Inzi vs Oz & SA have always been like how Laxman is currently doing in a rare few bad series against Oz ohh and the series is still not over yet so an EGG might be coming your way.. Lets not open up the statbook as it will make INZI look quite bad against 2 of the best sides of his era...I mean seriously this thread got a bump when Laxman is having a bad series that alone tells you something....

Dravid has a pretty poor record against saffers and aus but that doesnt make laxman better than him

If laxman was that high a quality player then he would have feasted on the "poorer" test teams

The fact that he has been barely above decent against several other nations says more than him making runs against one or two

 

[Sir_Afridi]

No doubt Inzi is the more talented and complete bat but the fact that he never showed up vs OZ or SA is enuff for me to choose Laxman ahead of INZI...

Inzi never played Aus without Mcgrath/Warne unlike Laxman....Only time Laxman played against these 2 in Aus was in 99 series where he was epic failure....Laxman failed in 90s against good bowlers and cashed on poor bowlers & flat pitches in 2000s but still doesnt average 50+.....

Aussie fans might rate Laxman but Pakistan doesnt rate him because our fast bowlers destroyed him like your ugly little midget....

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[CORNERED-TIGER]

^

ON FIRE sir afridi

 

[Zaz]

Inzi never played Aus without Mcgrath/Warne unlike Laxman....Only time Laxman played against these 2 in Aus was in 99 series where he was epic failure....Laxman failed in 90s against good bowlers and cashed on poor bowlers & flat pitches in 2000s but still doesnt average 50+.....

Aussie fans might rate Laxman but Pakistan doesnt rate him because our fast bowlers destroyed him like your ugly little midget....

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I guess thats how fans rate players by how they performed against their respective teams

Laxman has never even remotely done anything decent against eng and pakistan - two teams i watch the most

 

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Romali_rotti
Take off the blinkers man, Inzi vs Oz & SA have always been like how Laxman is currently doing in a rare few bad series against Oz ohh and the series is still not over yet so an EGG might be coming your way.. Lets not open up the statbook as it will make INZI look quite bad against 2 of the best sides of his era...I mean seriously this thread got a bump when Laxman is having a bad series that alone tells you something....

Oh man, I don't even know where to begin comparing them...RR, you must be out of your mind to think Laxman has better record than Inzi or was/is a better player than Inzi!

Inzi trumps him big against every team except Aussies (but then Inzi trumps Laxman against England by the same margin) and against SA both have had barely decent averages so there is no clear winner there!

All rest is Inzi by a big margin in almost every other case...maybe you should be the one putting your glasses on

And as for his so-called earth shattering average/performances against Aussies is concerned, Sir_Afridi put the hype about that in the right light:

Originally Posted by Sir_Afridi
Inzi never played Aus without Mcgrath/Warne unlike Laxman....Only time Laxman played against these 2 in Aus was in 99 series where he was epic failure....

Laxman:
Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
v Australia 1998-2012 27 49 5 2284 281 51.90 4135 55.23 6 11 2 321 0
v Bangladesh 2004-2010 3 4 1 117 69* 39.00 172 68.02 0 1 0 13 0
v England 2001-2011 17 28 3 766 75 30.64 1696 45.16 0 6 2 103 0
v New Zealand 2002-2010 10 17 3 818 124* 58.42 1810 45.19 2 6 2 112 1
v Pakistan 1999-2007 15 25 7 775 112* 43.05 1532 50.58 1 6 2 105 1
v South Africa 1996-2011 19 31 5 976 143* 37.53 2044 47.74 1 6 1 126 2
v Sri Lanka 1999-2010 13 22 3 900 104 47.36 1884 47.77 2 8 1 98 0
v West Indies 1997-2011 22 36 6 1715 176* 57.16 3741 45.84 4 11 3 194 0
v Zimbabwe 2000-2005 6 8 1 280 140 40.00 426 65.72 1 0 0 46 1


Inzi:
Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s

v Australia 1994-2005 14 27 2 785 118 31.40 1697 46.25 1 6 4 100 0
v Bangladesh 2001-2003 6 8 3 404 138* 80.80 760 53.15 2 0 1 56 5
v England 1992-2006 19 32 3 1584 148 54.62 2735 57.91 5 10 3 192 8
v India 1999-2006 10 17 1 833 184 52.06 1348 61.79 3 4 1 109 2
v New Zealand 1993-2003 12 19 3 1059 329 66.18 1772 59.76 3 4 2 139 12
v South Africa 1995-2007 13 23 1 710 96 32.27 1350 52.59 0 6 1 103 1
v Sri Lanka 1994-2006 20 31 5 1559 200* 59.96 3187 48.91 5 7 2 177 7
v West Indies 1993-2006 15 24 3 1124 177 53.52 2123 52.94 4 5 1 125 9
v Zimbabwe 1993-2002 11 19 1 772 112 42.88 1373 56.22 2 4 0 104 4


Laxman's average against Aussies will be taking a nose dive fast unless Indian selectors end his misery soon: 5 runs in three outings, what a champ he is turning out when things are tough out there

 

[King Cobra]

And as for his so-called earth shattering average/performances against Aussies is concerned, Sir_Afridi put the hype about that in the right light:



104 4

what right light ? thats a pathetic comment and excessive nitpicking to deny someone his due credit .

Do you think the knock that laxman played in edens after following on was on a flat track ? Australians were unbeaten in 16 tests and were already leading 1-0 in that series , that series was Australia's one of the two series losses when they had a great team , all thanks to laxman .

and laxman's 148 at adelaide in 2003 , a match winning performance .


another 70+ score at perth which was a match winning performance .


then winning the match with only two wickets in hand at mohali , all these knocks are brilliant . Dont bring some utter bs nitpicking critereas here .

 

[Monsee]

what right light ? thats a pathetic comment and excessive nitpicking to deny someone his due credit .

Do you think the knock that laxman played in edens after following on was on a flat track ? Australians were unbeaten in 16 tests and were already leading 1-0 in that series , that series was Australia's one of the two series losses when they had a great team , all thanks to laxman .

and laxman's 148 at adelaide in 2003 , a match winning performance .


another 70+ score at perth which was a match winning performance .


then winning the match with only two wickets in hand at mohali , all these knocks are brilliant . Dont bring some utter bs nitpicking critereas here .

So now you know how it feels when someone nit picks...yet, when ever Inzi's name is mentioned, the first words that come out are oh what about his record against Aussies/SA?

Inzi has played 2-3 of his best knocks against Aussies/SA in worst conditions then Laxman (in the context that he had to shephard the tail every time, the pitch condition, strength of bowling attack etc.)...yet no one talks about those!

BTW, yes that 281 was a great effort but who did Aussies have who was turning the ball square to cause any issues...Warne, who has never had any success against India? Who else?

 

[King Cobra]

So now you know how it feels when someone nit picks...yet, when ever Inzi's name is mentioned, the first words that come out are oh what about his record against Aussies/SA?

Inzi has played 2-3 of his best knocks against Aussies/SA in worst conditions then Laxman (in the context that he had to shephard the tail every time, the pitch condition, strength of bowling attack etc.)...yet no one talks about those!

BTW, yes that 281 was a great effort but who did Aussies have who was turning the ball square to cause any issues...Warne, who has never had any success against India? Who else?

And the reason for which is that Indian Batsmen are good enough to play him brilliantly as Laxman did while Inzy Bhai was a sitting duck against warne .

Players are judged by how they performed against the best team of there era , Laxman literally always terrorized the Australians while Inzy was just another flop batsman for them .

Inzy has a pathetic record against the best side of his era which is too big a negative point to be ignored just so easily , while Laxman has been the best against the best .

 

[Monsee]

^^^Best against the best in comfortable batting conditions...anything beyond the mundane batting pitches and we start seeing exactly the same as 5 in 3 attempts

 

[King Cobra]

^^^

Not really . Has four hundreds against Australia in Australia while only got 2 hundreds at home againt them , averaged 50 before the start of this series in Australia .

Great Player .

 

[AZulfi]

Overall Inzamam hands down

Laxman (against Aus)

 

[Monsee]

^^^

Not really . Has four hundreds against Australia in Australia while only got 2 hundreds at home againt them , averaged 50 before the start of this series in Australia .

Great Player .

Great Player against one team only and in all those matches never got to play against their best bowlers at the same time barring one match!

A great player does not average Sub 50 against all stronger teams bar one.

As regarding one of your earlier points that Inzi was a sitting duck against Warne, in 11 matches against Aussies, Warne got him out 5 times out. Now, going by any standards, that is a good performance by Warne against Inzi but by no means a 'Sitting Duck' situation as you put it!

 

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Inzamam-Terrific talent. Should have been in the league of Sachin,Ponting,Lara,Kallis but fell short maybe coz he din't work that hard.

Laxman-Not as much talented as Inzi but worked hard and achieved a lot.

ODI Cricket-Inzamam way way better.

Test Cricket-Inzamam slightly better. Juss a bit.

So,overall,widout a doubt Inzamam!

Thank you, unbiased Indian fan

Though I would take Inzi over Laxman any day in tests making him more than slightly better

 

[Zaz]

And the reason for which is that Indian Batsmen are good enough to play him brilliantly as Laxman did while Inzy Bhai was a sitting duck against warne .

Players are judged by how they performed against the best team of there era , Laxman literally always terrorized the Australians while Inzy was just another flop batsman for them .

Inzy has a pathetic record against the best side of his era which is too big a negative point to be ignored just so easily , while Laxman has been the best against the best .

How do u justify laxmans comparitively poorer record against the other nations?

If he was that good hed have filled his boots against them But instead he made the odd century here and there at average averages

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Inzamam is a lot better than Laxman in all format. As Abhinav said he's in the league of sachin and Ponting.

 

[srh]

we should not be comparing a great (Inzamam) with an average (Laxman) player. This is not fair to both of them. Inzamam should be compared against Dravid or Tendulkar of India. Laxman should be compared against Salim Malik or Shoaib Mohammad of Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Inzamam is a lot better than Laxman in all format. As Abhinav said he's in the league of sachin and Ponting.

we should not be comparing a great (Inzamam) with an average (Laxman) player. This is not fair to both of them. Inzamam should be compared against Dravid or Tendulkar of India. Laxman should be compared against Salim Malik or Shoaib Mohammad of Pakistan.

Inzamam is not in the league of Sachin or Ponting.not by some margin.

Not saying that Inzy was not a very good players,but the likes of Lara Sachin are in a different league all together.

 

[aqeelPK]

Lol, All those talks of Laxman performing against Australia went to dust after his current performances against Australia

 

[King Cobra]

Laxman has failed against Australia in this series but overall he has still performed far better than Inzy has against Australia .

 

[Romali_rotti]

dLaxman might have played his last test series in international cricket and that is not a bad thing, Rohit Sharma will be coming in soo its all good.. Laxman's greatest contribution was in 2001, it put an end to that amazing but HORRIBLY ARROGANT australian side in its place which no other team has done as they were sweeping the opposition home and away without much effort............

 

[vic mackey]

VVS Laxman vs Inzamam-ul-haq : Who was the better batsman in Tests?

Discuss

 

[Ab Fan]

Dunno.. A close contest.

 

[pillionrider]

VVS played one of the greatest knocks of all time. Should be Top 3 even if you include one or two of the oldies.

Against Australia, he is well ahead of Inzy.

But overall, will have to say Inzamam.

 

[King-Misbah]

Inzamam as he was more consistent and the back none of Pakistan batting. VVS is glorified due to a few innings.

 

[Ab Fan]

VVS has played some fantastic innings against South Africa as well. Yet he averages 37 only against them.

While it is close, have to go with Inzy here.

 

[Hasan123]

Inzi wins this one for me.