Warm-up game between Afghanistan (154/6) and Pakistan (19/0) ends in No Result due to rain

[MenInG]

AFG 154/6 (20) CRR: 7.7

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[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Tricky chase. Pakistan should treat it like a round 4 game. No need to relax and show bonhomie.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

As expected RizBab are opening against AFG, they will win it with ease

 

[IAJ]

With Pakistan fans it is only watch it and comment it there and then.

You have seen 3rd match on this ground, Aussie, English and Indian bowlers have all gone for runs here. These are pure batting wickets.
Mohammad Wasim who hardly connects with bat were hitting boundaries for fun.

And in T20s bowlers will go for run, it’s the batsmen who will have to step up here.

 

[daytrader]

Nabi, gives his bowler two slips. Such an experienced campaigner

 

[IAJ]

Lol Rizwan keeps missing and smiling, funny guy

 

[Sherazkhalid]

wides the top scorer for now.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Wides are the player of the match tonight.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Hope Rizwan haven't gotten out of form when we are already questioning middle order.

 

[7sins]

So much negativity from Pakistan fans and its just a warm up match. Just chill guys it's not the end of the world

 

[ExpressPacer]

Commentator grilling the Afghan WK batsman for all his drama loooool doesn't get better

 

[IAJ]

Lol, extras helping Pakistan here

 

[Bilal7]

Mods should not allow 90% of this forum from making any posts when Babar and Rizwan are starting off their innings in tough batting conditions. The negativity and whining here is enough to give anyone cancer.

The ball is hooping around in overcast conditions and Afghanistan were three down at this point. Our boys are doing very well even though it's probably better if they get out and let the middle order have some batting practice.

Haider should come in next.

 

[7sins]

Just like we helped Afghanistan by giving 20+ extras

 

[Usman Chadda]

Rizwan has no clue so far.

Rain stops play as expected.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

Rizwan has gone out of form at the very wrong time. 8 dot balls.

 

[7sins]

Exactly too much negativity here

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Rizwan as usual, 7 dots in a row

 

[D/DAhmed]

Rizwan has no class as a batsman. Don’t care what his average is, just doesn’t look like a world class opener at all

 

[Kianig89]

Rizwan blockathon T2o rankings is sucha sham

 

[Bilal7]

So much negativity from Pakistan fans and its just a warm up match. Just chill guys it's not the end of the world

These depressed aunties are always like this.

 

[Snowflake]

Rizwan gon be a deer caught in headlights in Aus )

I can bet it's going to be a miserable tour for him.

 

[7sins]

Do you have some Bradman waiting in pakistan to open instead of him ?

 

[Kianig89]

looks like no strategy so far even Hayden has been fooled down by Saqi n Co.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Doubt we will have more play today, it’s only going to get heavier.

 

[Kianig89]

Rabada et al have easy prey waiting for them

 

[Sherazkhalid]

90% chance of rain in India Pak game. Will be awesome

 

[Snowflake]

What is Rizwan trying to do differently to avoid this dot after dot? Not shuffling, not advancing down... Just letting the bowler bowl his lines and missing crucial PP overs. 8 dot balls! Unbelievable

 

[7sins]

Doubt we will have more play today, it’s only going to get heavier.

Good hopefully india game will be washed out today

 

[Usman Chadda]

What is Rizwan trying to do differently to avoid this dot after dot? Not shuffling, not advancing down... Just letting the bowler bowl his lines and missing crucial PP overs. 8 dot balls! Unbelievable

Good bowling aswell, no issue with riding out a good spell when the bowling side has already helped you out with the wides.

There is appreciable movement in the air and Rizwan isn’t the greatest when the ball is moving around this much.

 

[Kianig89]

on Current form 8-10 dots from Rizwan, 10-12 from Shan then where did we stand margin for fragile middle order gets shrink-ed fickle fellas need to understand this

 

[Kianig89]

hopefully Hayden will influence his tiki-taka style our batters

 

[7sins]

Good bowling aswell, no issue with riding out a good spell when the bowling side has already helped you out with the wides.

There is appreciable movement in the air and Rizwan isn’t the greatest when the ball is moving around this much.

Most of the Asian batsmen will struggle in this overcast condition

 

[Snowflake]

Good bowling aswell, no issue with riding out a good spell when the bowling side has already helped you out with the wides.

There is appreciable movement in the air and Rizwan isn’t the greatest when the ball is moving around this much.

Riding out a good spell? I can't believe we still use these kind of terms in this day and age; that too in a T20! I'd love to see England Aus and India riding out good spells.

 

[OmaIR1]

This Babar-Rizwan opening pair is like cancer for Pakistan in T20s. Both are slow T20 players and more often than not fail to capitalize on the PP overs.

Rizwan will throw his body around taking singles and doubles only to score at a SR of 110. Babar will play just as slow only to throw his wicket away to a nothing ball.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Do you have some Bradman waiting in pakistan to open instead of him ?

Well they have got two regular openers in Fakhar and Shan Masood

Shan opened against England and score 39(22) balls showed intent to hit hard from the start.

PP ended with 66-1

 

[Snowflake]

hopefully Hayden will influence his tiki-taka style our batters

Isn't that a football style of play?

 

[IAJ]

Why could they not wait another month for the WC or does it rain even more then Down Under?

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Most of the Asian batsmen will struggle in this overcast condition

Well there were widths offered to hit but Rizwan turns that into look like peach of a delivery

Farooqi in his first over was completely out of the radar not knowing to control swing , pace and bounce from this lively Aus pitches.

 

[OmaIR1]

Well they have got two regular openers in Fakhar and Shan Masood

Shan opened against England and score 39(22) balls showed intent to hit hard from the start.

PP ended with 66-1

Yea, in T20 you literally have to throw your bat at everything. Shan Masood did a great job against England in the last game.

Even if you look at AFG they went from 80-6 to 154. They played some brave cricket. Rizwan just stays at the crease in the name of being an anchor but can never win you the match. All the MOTM awards he has got there has been a supporting innings ( SR 200) which changed the game.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

This Pakistan team is in for a lot of trouble, only thing that will save them is early wickets from Shaheen but that too good teams will have better batsmen coming in to see them through early wicket loss

Batting pitches and Pakistan don’t have any qualified hitters , they will chase 150s but usually it looks like pitches are tailored for 200+

 

[Usman Chadda]

Riding out a good spell? I can't believe we still use these kind of terms in this day and age; that too in a T20! I'd love to see England Aus and India riding out good spells.

The ball was moving, it’s only eight balls. Calm down.

 

[Usman Chadda]

This Pakistan team is in for a lot of trouble, only thing that will save them is early wickets from Shaheen but that too good teams will have better batsmen coming in to see them through early wicket loss

Batting pitches and Pakistan don’t have any qualified hitters , they will chase 150s but usually it looks like pitches are tailored for 200+

Yet not even one 200+ score in any matches played so far?

Do you know what the par score is on Australian grounds?

 

[Snowflake]

The ball was moving, it’s only eight balls. Calm down.

Only 8 balls. Lol! What's too much for you then? 15 balls? 20 balls? Please show me when an opener from a top team is on zero from 8. I'm sure there will be other games in overcast conditions.

Yeah, the ball was moving, doesn't mean you can't take single. It's a T20 man. You only get 120 balls. Please don't defend gutless batting.

 

[daytrader]

The news from the venue is that the rain has gotten heavier

 

[Sherazkhalid]

The news from the venue is that the rain has gotten heavier

Guess time to hit the bed or do something else other than cricket.

 

[daytrader]

Game has been called off

 

[Usman Chadda]

Game has been called off

The first week doesn’t look great unfortunately. This might turn into a disaster.

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

The only problem with this slow save wickets approach is that these grounds are freaking huge and when we don't get runs from the fielding restrictions then it will become impossible to score big as our so called power hitters won't be able to hit sixes in these gigantic grounds.

Pakistan's batting approach may be favorable in asian conditions with small grounds but its tough to score here in Australia, i know we can't change the pair at this point in time but Babar and Rizwan need to change their approach and mindset.

 

[TheSultan]

Rizwan is doing the unthinkable - he’s making me appreciate Shan Masood

 

[Rana]

He will score a paltry 60 off 50 against Scotland and we will be told he is world class

 

[zaidihusain]

Someone should tell meaning of practice game to Rizwan. If you can't change your batting approach in a practice match against a team like Afghan, then that means you don't want to develop yourself as a batsman even after opening in numerous T20 games. Playing 8 dot balls in a powerplay of a practice match against Afghans and then expecting middle order to score @ SR of 200 after 15th over is not the right mindset

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Someone should tell meaning of practice game to Rizwan. If you can't change your batting approach in a practice match against a team like Afghan, then that means you don't want to develop yourself as a batsman even after opening in numerous T20 games. Playing 8 dot balls in a powerplay of a practice match against Afghans and then expecting middle order to score @ SR of 200 after 15th over is not the right mindset

RizBab rock, do not say anything against them

 

[angrypathan]

Slow approach at the start will cost Pakistan in rain affected games

 

[MenInG]

Highlights of the game

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[shamaan]

Rizwan has no class as a batsman. Don’t care what his average is, just doesn’t look like a world class opener at all

You don't average 50 if you ain't class.

 

[TheSultan]

Someone should tell meaning of practice game to Rizwan. If you can't change your batting approach in a practice match against a team like Afghan, then that means you don't want to develop yourself as a batsman even after opening in numerous T20 games. Playing 8 dot balls in a powerplay of a practice match against Afghans and then expecting middle order to score @ SR of 200 after 15th over is not the right mindset

Standard response below

“Oh they have to bat like this because of the brittle middle order”

Yes even in a practice match!

 

[ZafarKhan2022]

Contrary to what many posters here think, it's not Rizwan's responsibility to give up his spot. The fact is Rizwan keeps wicket where he is involved in fielding every single delivery and opens the batting as well. If you think you can do better than Rizwan's avg-strikerate combination then put up or shut up. You'll have to take his spot, dislodge him through your performances. Batting spots are not given away due to fans ranting on the internet.

 

[MRSN]

This Babar-Rizwan opening pair is like cancer for Pakistan in T20s. Both are slow T20 players and more often than not fail to capitalize on the PP overs.

Rizwan will throw his body around taking singles and doubles only to score at a SR of 110. Babar will play just as slow only to throw his wicket away to a nothing ball.

But but Rizwan averages 50+ lol. 0 from 8 balls in a practice game against Afghanistan is a terrible knock but not surprised one bit. It's standard Rizwan batting. This world cup will expose his batting.

 

[MRSN]

Contrary to what many posters here think, it's not Rizwan's responsibility to give up his spot. The fact is Rizwan keeps wicket where he is involved in fielding every single delivery and opens the batting as well. If you think you can do better than Rizwan's avg-strikerate combination then put up or shut up. You'll have to take his spot, dislodge him through your performances. Batting spots are not given away due to fans ranting on the internet.

Tough to dislodge when you are not given chance even in dead rubber games.

 

[MRSN]

Rizwan mindset is typical Misbah. The more runs I score the longer I play irrespective of how and where they are scored. This is why I don't rate his batting and don't expect Pakistan to do any thing big as long as Rizwan and Baber are allowed to play like this.

 

[OmaIR1]

Rizwan mindset is typical Misbah. The more runs I score the longer I play irrespective of how and where they are scored. This is why I don't rate his batting and don't expect Pakistan to do any thing big as long as Rizwan and Baber are allowed to play like this.

This issue in my opinion is not Babar or Rizwan but rather Babar and Rizwan. You need at least one of the openers to be aggressive, if both are just preserving their wicket and making personal milestones you won't win many.

 

[asfandyar]

The Naseem bubble has burst. M Wasim should be our third seamer. He goes for plenty, but gets some beauties every now and then.

 

[asfandyar]

I think we should leave the "Babar and Rizwan are slow" debate for after the WC. They are not going anywhere anytime soon, and both WILL open the innings. The real question is about the middle order. My picks: Fakhar, Shan, Iftikhar, Asif, maybe send Nawaz or Shadab up the order every now and then.

 

[rhony]

Hope Rizwan haven't gotten out of form when we are already questioning middle order.

When it bounces a bit more, his across the line batting is a bit risky. He was clearly out of balance in that first over. Falling over and then fishing outside offstump are ominous signs but was expected. Outside off stump on length is the way to bowl at him. No short bowling as he is strong square off the wicket.

To get out of jail when the bowling is tight, he uses his feet and moves forward outside legstump to meet the ball and score over covers or over mid off. Extra bounce will hurt that shot as well

 

[Rana]

I think we should leave the "Babar and Rizwan are slow" debate for after the WC. They are not going anywhere anytime soon, and both WILL open the innings. The real question is about the middle order. My picks: Fakhar, Shan, Iftikhar, Asif, maybe send Nawaz or Shadab up the order every now and then.

Nope

They are as accountable as the week middle order

 

[Suleiman]

The Naseem bubble has burst. M Wasim should be our third seamer. He goes for plenty, but gets some beauties every now and then.

Lol 1 warm up game and the bubble is burst? Typical Pakistani mentality when it comes to investing in young talent and being blind to potential and ability.

Anybody who has seen our bowlers bowl in the last few months can see clearly that after Shaheen and Rauf, Naseem and Hasnain have the ingredients to be world class. Both have pace and movement through the air. They lack the thinking ability but it will come.

Waseem is not fast, and has a very predictable game plan game after game. Even NZ figured him out toward the end of the series.

 

[sweep_shot]

The Naseem bubble has burst. M Wasim should be our third seamer. He goes for plenty, but gets some beauties every now and then.

I think Naseem is better than Waseem.

Naseem did good in the last Asia Cup.

 

[Saj]

What was Rizwan doing? 0 off 8 balls

 

[Kianig89]

In hindsight but team mgmt was definitely aware that it would rain so they should have batted first instead of chasing and make our bowlers chase the leather unnecessarily

 

[Rana]

What was Rizwan doing? 0 off 8 balls

Taking everything for granted

 

[Stewie]

I think the guy Shaheen hit, is probably going to be out of the world cup. I saw pictures of him being carried off the field. Reminded me of the 1992 world cup when Waz hit Lara on the toe with a similar delivery. Lara was carried off the field as well but he somehow managed to play the rest of the world cup, IIRC.

 

[Kianig89]

Tbh no matter how world class RizBar may be but with this approach you can't win Asia Cup let alone the WC flashy openers are req to win T20 games who can get the opposition under the pump from ball one, when the batting starts with attacking mindset bowling sides have to rethink their strategy and shuffle their bowlers which disrupts their game, with RizBar batting the other side is always in game knowing they motor along at 7.5~8 RPO and whatever partnership they have the opposition is always in game

On the other hand if you have aggressive openers and even if one of them clicks he makes it count imagine being 48_0 in 6 overs, or 65/2 in 6 overs, T20 is a game of fine margins and playing dot balls is criminal in this format

 

[sweep_shot]

I think the guy Shaheen hit, is probably going to be out of the world cup. I saw pictures of him being carried off the field. Reminded me of the 1992 world cup when Waz hit Lara on the toe with a similar delivery. Lara was carried off the field as well but he somehow managed to play the rest of the world cup, IIRC.

As per Cricinfo, he is good to play in World T20. No fracture.

 

[Bewal Express]

On the whole i have been pretty supportive of the Babar- Riz partnership. Solid and generally done better than what our other openers offer. But after the T20 WC, both need to go and we need to find others that will build for the next few years. The talent is pretty poor but if you throw enough darts, you do get to hit the bullseye now and then.

 

[Suleiman]

What was Rizwan doing? 0 off 8 balls

I’ve lost a bit of faith in him ever since he played a literal maiden Vs NZ in the Tri series. A maiden. In a t20.

No idea what’s happened to this guy’s playing style this year. He was definitely not always like this. Something in his mind surely..

 

[Grunge101]

The Naseem bubble has burst. M Wasim should be our third seamer. He goes for plenty, but gets some beauties every now and then.

Wasim shouldn't be playing imo. He's simply not skilled enough at this point. Infact the biggest problem I have with him in his low ceiling. Hes not tall, had not displayed any appreciable swing or Seam skills uptil this point and is generally the kind of pace batsmen love in Australia.

He can get the odd Yorker right but that in itself is not enough to merit a place in an international team. The only other thing going in his favor is the "allrounder" tag which at this point doesn't seem to be supported by his domestic record at all.

 

[asfandyar]

Lol 1 warm up game and the bubble is burst? Typical Pakistani mentality when it comes to investing in young talent and being blind to potential and ability.

Anybody who has seen our bowlers bowl in the last few months can see clearly that after Shaheen and Rauf, Naseem and Hasnain have the ingredients to be world class. Both have pace and movement through the air. They lack the thinking ability but it will come.

Waseem is not fast, and has a very predictable game plan game after game. Even NZ figured him out toward the end of the series.

They're both a league below Shaheen and Haris and a league above Hasnain and Dahani. Naseem was being touted as being in Shaheen's league, so the bubble sure has burst.

Naseem 0/38 1/31 2/38 2/27 0/18 0/41 1/40 1/19 1/45
Wasim 0/27 2/16 0/37 2/33 0/19 2/20 3/24 0/61 0/29

I have also marked the problem keywords in your sermon. Numbers matter, your visual pathway doesn't. Yorkers are more important than movement in T20s.

 

[riddu]

Do you have some Bradman waiting in pakistan to open instead of him ?

asif ali best bet

 

[Snowflake]

They're both a league below Shaheen and Haris and a league above Hasnain and Dahani. Naseem was being touted as being in Shaheen's league, so the bubble sure has burst.

Naseem 0/38 1/31 2/38 2/27 0/18 0/41 1/40 1/19 1/45
Wasim 0/27 2/16 0/37 2/33 0/19 2/20 3/24 0/61 0/29

I have also marked the problem keywords in your sermon. Numbers matter, your visual pathway doesn't. Yorkers are more important than movement in T20s.

Who said Naseem is in the same league as Shaheen?

Though, he's definitely far far ahead of Wasim. Wasim isn't international material.