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WC2019: 66.6 per cent of tickets sold to India supporters compared to just 18.1 per cent to Pakistan

Enough pakistani supporters in u.k who wanted the tickets for this match, applied for them and would have paid. I was one of them and got none of the tickets I applied for. 3 matches in total!!!
These tickets were not expensive as your making it out to be and that only Indians have the funds
 
Tickets should have been distributed evenly between fans like it is in football, we didn’t see Liverpool get more tickets than Tottenham in the CL Final because the have a bigger fan base! I don’t get why they asked about which team you support if they weren’t going to take it into consideration when allocating tickets.

This whole event has been organised by a brainless bunch, the worst WC in terms of organisation!
 
Last year when india played against England in T20 match here, crowd was predominantly Indians.

Night before the match, huge concert organised by bharat army with Punjabi singer Guru randhawa performing.

All the credit should go to bharat army team.

Coming to India, inox is screening in 25 screens across India which are already sold out.
 
Available tickets should always besplit 50/50 between teams . Only if theres is not enough demand from one side should this not be the case. Demand was there from both sid
 
Captain caveman said:
Available tickets should always besplit 50/50 between teams . Only if theres is not enough demand from one side should this not be the case. Demand was there from both sid
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This is how its done in international football competition matches !
The stadium should be split in two halves, pakistan halve and indian halve. Anyone lying about who they support, will be easily identified and ejected from the stadium with no refund, again like international football tournaments. This gives a fair and balanc
 
Captain caveman said:
Available tickets should always besplit 50/50 between teams . Only if theres is not enough demand from one side should this not be the case. Demand was there from both sid
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Why ? Indian are more in number they should get more tickets. Simple.
Otherwise it will be very unfair (to Indians) if tickets are split 50:50.
 
Kaptan said:
Why ? Indian are more in number they should get more tickets. Simple.
Otherwise it will be very unfair (to Indians) if tickets are split 50:50.
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Why not first come, first serve?
 
It's online booking. Anyone can book tickets. It doesn't matter where it is Indians or Pakistan.
 
Captain caveman said:
This is how its done in international football competition matches !
The stadium should be split in two halves, pakistan halve and indian halve. Anyone lying about who they support, will be easily identified and ejected from the stadium with no refund, again like international football tournaments. This gives a fair and balanc
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This is also safe, as opposing fans are segregated and enter via different entrances, just like football!
Indian fans are happy that they got more than 3 times the ticket allocation, but with mixed seating, they might not be so happy. I fear there will be fan violence after this match, due to recent political events!
 
MenInG said:
Why not first come, first serve?
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This is also a very good idea. But it will not solve the problem addressed in this thread as there will always be more Indians standing in queue to get tickets. (Considering all other factors like economic conditions, passion for cricket etc is constant for both teams.)
 
This first come first basis or more indians applied so they got more tickets is NONSENSE that only cricket can come up with.
Equal allocations to both fan sets, any unsold tickets then can be sold to the other set of fans. Any tickets bought on the black market and not from an official site should be rejected.
This is how football and all PROFESSIONAL sports sell tickets!
 
Kaptan said:
Why ? Indian are more in number they should get more tickets. Simple.
Otherwise it will be very unfair (to Indians) if tickets are split 50:50.
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Stupidest thing I’ve ever heard! People with your thought process are ruining cricket...
 
Captain caveman said:
This first come first basis or more indians applied so they got more tickets is NONSENSE that only cricket can come up with.
Equal allocations to both fan sets, any unsold tickets then can be sold to the other set of fans. Any tickets bought on the black market and not from an official site should be rejected.
This is how football and all PROFESSIONAL sports sell tickets!
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Exactly this... What was the reason for asking which team you follow if it wasn’t to allocate tickets evenly?
 
Captain caveman said:
This first come first basis or more indians applied so they got more tickets is NONSENSE that only cricket can come up with.
Equal allocations to both fan sets, any unsold tickets then can be sold to the other set of fans. Any tickets bought on the black market and not from an official site should be rejected.
This is how football and all PROFESSIONAL sports sell tickets!
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The posts on here saying more indians in the world or indians are richer than pakistanis, are just cheap digs by RACIST, UNEDUCATED people.
In northern parts of uk there is more pakistanis than indians. And we all have alot more money than your average indian living in india, at least 100 - 1000 times more and as most of the indian fans on PP are from india, so stick that in your pipe and SMOKE IT!
 
Im getting fed up of indian fans outnumbering pak fans, this is UNFAIR and paramount to CHEATING!.
No international football team would accept this.
This is why cricket is a RAGTAG THIRD WORLD sport
 
I'm really angry about this, so my last post on this subject as i might get banned with what i say if i post further.
Indian fans at the ground will be three times as many as pak fans, so three times as many of them will enjoy the WHOOPING PAK CRICKET TEAM WILL GIVE YOU ON 16 JUNE!
 
Kaptan said:
Why ? Indian are more in number they should get more tickets. Simple.
Otherwise it will be very unfair (to Indians) if tickets are split 50:50.
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No professional sport allocates tickets on population size of the team!
professional bodies always do a 50/50 split with any unsold tickets sold made available to the other side!
 
Captain caveman said:
I'm really angry about this, so my last post on this subject as i might get banned with what i say if i post further.
Indian fans at the ground will be three times as many as pak fans, so three times as many of them will enjoy the WHOOPING PAK CRICKET TEAM WILL GIVE YOU ON 16 JUNE!
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If this is the case, then why are you so upset about it?
 
QuickCrick said:
Wow even more stupid! I’ve not said it’s a conspiracy, just poorly organised.
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Just ICC are rubbish!
Its very easy to organise!
50/50 split in segregated parts of a ground . Each ticket has a ticket number and seat number, if an opposing fan presents such a ticket, they are rejected at the gate. If they manage to sneak in and start cheering their team, they are ejected from the stand and the stadium.
Simple, this is how its done in football!
 
Captain caveman said:
No professional sport allocates tickets on population size of the team!
professional bodies always do a 50/50 split with any unsold tickets sold made available to the other side!
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Did ICC promise 50-50 allocation of ticket?
 
Captain caveman said:
No idea!
Why a 50/50 split seems alien to people from india is beyond me!
I guess fairness is not a big issue in india!
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If there was a written statement, then one can legally sue ICC for uneven distribution of tickets. Otherwise, you don't have any weight except, it will be just your opinion that it should be 50-50.
 
Itachi said:
If there was a written statement, then one can legally sue ICC for uneven distribution of tickets. Otherwise, you don't have any weight except, it will be just your opinion that it should be 50-50.
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Every other sport splits tickets evenly between supporters, by your logic if India played England in a football game then 90% of the supporters will be Indian! Can you not see how flawed the thought process is?
 
QuickCrick said:
Every other sport splits tickets evenly between supporters, by your logic if India played England in a football game then 90% of the supporters will be Indian! Can you not see how flawed the thought process is?
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I am again asking, is there a written statement where ICC stated it will be 50-50?

Here logic is irrelevant unless it is in written form which the organizers will have to abide by.
 
I don’t want segregation in the stands as this makes a day out watching cricket unique but yes defo should be 50/50 split like in every other sport.
 
I’m the lead of the official Pakistan fan group for World Cup 2019. The “Pak fans.” We got tickets last May. Simply put, Pakistanis are not as well organised. We will have a loud presence though! 🇵🇰
 
Itachi said:
I am again asking, is there a written statement where ICC stated it will be 50-50?

Here logic is irrelevant unless it is in written form which the organizers will have to abide by.
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You’re missing the point.

Ticket allocation should have been thought out properly to give every country a fair representation in the stands.

It’s a neutral venue and this should be evident in the stands, all round it’d be a better spectacle if it was 50/50 split as there will always be atmosphere in the ground. CT is the best example of this, stadium was pretty much empty when Hardik got out.
 
Saj said:
They bought the tickets, were organised and got in there first.

So well done to them really.
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It wasn’t first come first served.

Me, my friends and family applied at every stage and didn’t get tickets to this game yet we’ve managed to get tickets for all the other Pakistan games.
 
QuickCrick said:
You’re missing the point.

Ticket allocation should have been thought out properly to give every country a fair representation in the stands.

It’s a neutral venue and this should be evident in the stands, all round it’d be a better spectacle if it was 50/50 split as there will always be atmosphere in the ground. CT is the best example of this, stadium was pretty much empty when Hardik got out.
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1. You are saying it "should be". What I am asking is, did ICC stated 50-50 allocation?

Secondly, the people who got tickets are saying Pak fans aren't well organized to obtain tickets. These are words from Pak fans and not from any other sources.
 
QuickCrick said:
Every other sport splits tickets evenly between supporters, by your logic if India played England in a football game then 90% of the supporters will be Indian! Can you not see how flawed the thought process is?
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Ticket was allocated on first come first serve basis during FIFA 2018.
Don't just make up things.
 
Itachi said:
1. You are saying it "should be". What I am asking is, did ICC stated 50-50 allocation?

Secondly, the people who got tickets are saying Pak fans aren't well organized to obtain tickets. These are words from Pak fans and not from any other sources.
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I’m not saying they've broken rules, read what I’ve said again.

Answer this or give me some logical reason as to why they asked which team you support if it’s not to split tickets evenly?

I can’t speak for every fan the same way the posters on here can’t so not the most reliable source however I can speak for myself and I’m pretty well organised and have tickets for every game except this one.
 
Mr.Q said:
Yeah the one who brings drinks and additional gear to the ground :P. Surely fans can’t do that.
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Atmosphere against England at Nottingham was nuts considering it was Ramadan and no additional gear lol
 
QuickCrick said:
No they weren’t, I actually went and won them through a ballot.
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The first Tickets for the 2018 FIFA World Cup RussiaTM went on sale on 14th September 2017.

Sales Phase (1) was divided into two Sales Periods. First, fans were able to request Tickets on a Random Selection Draw basis (from 14th September 2017 until 12th October 2017), and then after the Random Selection Draw has taken place and the successful Ticket Applications were determined, they were able to purchase the remaining Tickets on a First Come First Served basis from 16th November 2017 to 28th November 2017. During Sales Phase (1), fans were able to buy Tickets based on the date and venue of a Match (teams playing were determined later), or to follow a specific team (date and venue determined later). This is because during Sales Phase (1) it was not yet determined where specific teams were playing any given Match, with the exception of Russia as Team A1.

Sales Phase (2) commenced after the Final Draw when football fans found out where all participating teams would be playing. Sales Phase (2) is also divided into two Sales Periods. The first Sales Period of Sales Phase (2) was again a Ticket Application collection period with applications submitted from 5th December 2017 until 31st January 2018. Random Selection Draws took place in order to determine which Ticket Applications were successful. The remaining Tickets were available from 13th March 2018 to 3rd April 2018 on a First Come First Served basis, where Ticket purchases were processed as a real-time transaction, which means the Tickets were confirmed at the point of purchase.

In the Last Minute Sales Phase from 18th April 2018 up until the final Match day of the Competition, the remaining Tickets will be available to all customers online and, from 1st May, 2018 (subject to change) until the final Match day of the competition, remaining Tickets will also be available Over the Counter at the designated FIFA Venue Ticketing Centres. During the Last Minute Sales Phase, Ticket purchases are processed as a real-time transaction to the extent inventory remains available
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Were tickets split 50:50 ?
 
QuickCrick said:
You’re missing the point.

Ticket allocation should have been thought out properly to give every country a fair representation in the stands.

It’s a neutral venue and this should be evident in the stands, all round it’d be a better spectacle if it was 50/50 split as there will always be atmosphere in the ground. CT is the best example of this, stadium was pretty much empty when Hardik got out.
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What do u mean by give every country a fair representation? Propose a full detailed model on how u plan to do that? Who will u allow ? Who wont be allowed? And how this process will be done?

Did u go out and meet everysingle pakistani? Or u just saw cries on pp?
I too have many indian friends in london incuding my cousin and many of his friends who all applied and were rejected same way, i didnt see them cry likr this.

Do u have any report on how many tickiets were given to sponsers/partners/boardmembers.

Without knowing details of how distribution of tickets was done ,how can u come to conclusion how it shud have been done
 
Kaptan said:
Were tickets split 50:50 ?
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I doubt there were many tickets left for first come first served, maybe in Russia because of security issues.

They can only do 50:50 during group stages as they have no idea who is facing who in the knockouts but from I saw on TV and Live the stadium were split 50:50 so I guess they used the information fans gave them about who they support when allocating tickets.
 
Organisers know that the 66% will also purchase alcohol at the match compared to a small percentage of the 18% buying it (🙊)

It's all about the moneys 🤑
 
QuickCrick said:
Tickets should have been distributed evenly between fans like it is in football, we didn’t see Liverpool get more tickets than Tottenham in the CL Final because the have a bigger fan base! I don’t get why they asked about which team you support if they weren’t going to take it into consideration when allocating tickets.

This whole event has been organised by a brainless bunch, the worst WC in terms of organisation!
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Isn't it on first come first serve basis?
 
Harshu814 said:
What do u mean by give every country a fair representation? Propose a full detailed model on how u plan to do that? Who will u allow ? Who wont be allowed? And how this process will be done?

Did u go out and meet everysingle pakistani? Or u just saw cries on pp?
I too have many indian friends in london incuding my cousin and many of his friends who all applied and were rejected same way, i didnt see them cry likr this.

Do u have any report on how many tickiets were given to sponsers/partners/boardmembers.

Without knowing details of how distribution of tickets was done ,how can u come to conclusion how it shud have been done
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I’m just going by the OP and comments on here.

Simple solution would have been something like 40% allocated to both Pakistan and Indian fans and 20% to everyone else.. They asked which team you follow on during the application process, what is the point of asking this if it’s not to distribute equally? Everyone seems to be struggling to answer this question.

The stadiums holds 26000, ppl are making out that out of 400,000 applications 395.000 were Indians because they have a bigger population.
 
I reported this after the CT 2017, there are unfair allocation of tickets by the ICC itself, the ballot system is not transparent and there have been previous investigations in the UK as to corruption in selling ticketst o third parties for sport and music events.

This is not a new problem.
 
To the people who believe this has to do with affordability are woefully wrong.

A little education:

*It was almost 20 years ago, at the 1999 World Cup, that Raks and three other British-Indians formed the Bharat (meaning India) Army in response to the India fans being outnumbered by their Pakistani counterparts at a game in Manchester.*

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45464635

When India were minnows, Indians claimed they never watched cricket cos India was more than often at the losing end. Pakistan fans would snap up the tickets. Then india improved and the Indian fans started taking interestedthe birth of Bharat Army.

The reality is Indians out number Pakistanis by 6 to 1. Ticket sales were not just limited to those who live in England.

It is also a known fact that the grounds are packed when India is batting. It is also known Indian fans are outnumbered during Test matches in England.

66% are indian at the Pak/Ind encounter? Well there will be a lot of empty seats once India are skittled in the same manner as CT17 final. :)
 
Technics 1210 said:
To the people who believe this has to do with affordability are woefully wrong.

A little education:

*It was almost 20 years ago, at the 1999 World Cup, that Raks and three other British-Indians formed the Bharat (meaning India) Army in response to the India fans being outnumbered by their Pakistani counterparts at a game in Manchester.*

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45464635

When India were minnows, Indians claimed they never watched cricket cos India was more than often at the losing end. Pakistan fans would snap up the tickets. Then india improved and the Indian fans started taking interestedthe birth of Bharat Army.

The reality is Indians out number Pakistanis by 6 to 1. Ticket sales were not just limited to those who live in England.

It is also a known fact that the grounds are packed when India is batting. It is also known Indian fans are outnumbered during Test matches in England.

66% are indian at the Pak/Ind encounter? Well there will be a lot of empty seats once India are skittled in the same manner as CT17 final. :)
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If that was the case, CT17 should have had been the final nail in the coffin. But even after defeat against the Pak team in the final, indian fans still outnumber Pak fans. So this logic doesn't actually apply in reality.
 
Itachi said:
If that was the case, CT17 should have had been the final nail in the coffin. But even after defeat against the Pak team in the final, indian fans still outnumber Pak fans. So this logic doesn't actually apply in reality.
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Read again. Indians have outnumbered Pakistan fans at Pak/Ind encounter since India started winning matches. Nothing to do with affordability but to do with Indian demand. Did you read the BBC article?

Who can forget how Indian fans walked out during the CT17. My second point above.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Read again. Indians have outnumbered Pakistan fans at Pak/Ind encounter since India started winning matches. Nothing to do with affordability but to do with Indian demand. Did you read the BBC article?

Who can forget how Indian fans walked out during the CT17. My second point above.
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Walking out and not buying tickets are two different aspects. Defeats are making fans walk but it isn't stopping people to buy tickets.
 
Itachi said:
Walking out and not buying tickets are two different aspects. Defeats are making fans walk but it isn't stopping people to buy tickets.
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I never said they were the same.

Don't confuse a losing streak with a single loss.

Read the BBC article.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I never said they were the same.

Don't confuse a losing streak with a single loss.

Read the BBC article.
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I read. Didn't see anything related to the thread.

Point being, while unavoidable defeats may make fans walk out, buying tickets is different aspect. Hence, with regards to this thread, there won't be any impact in the sell of the ticket even if India loses to Pakistan.
 
Captain caveman said:
The posts on here saying more indians in the world or indians are richer than pakistanis, are just cheap digs by RACIST, UNEDUCATED people.
In northern parts of uk there is more pakistanis than indians. And we all have alot more money than your average indian living in india, at least 100 - 1000 times more and as most of the indian fans on PP are from india, so stick that in your pipe and SMOKE IT!
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Average Indian’s disposable income in India is 1100 Pounds per year, Every Pakistani in England disposable income is 17000 pounds per year. So that’s just 15-16 times, not 100-1000 times, Now what do you want to smoke where? And the reason is that one community stay uneducated and highly racist!

Average Indian in Uk earns 23000 Pounds per year, about 40% higher than a Pakistani.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...amilies-earning-less-white-britons-uk-pay-gap

“Disposable income, in part boosted by home ownership, is considerably higher among white British and Indian groups in the UK

Bangladeshi and Pakistani households earn about a third less on average than the median for white families.”

And the difference is increasing, both in UK and also own countries.

Let’s be humble and enjoy cricket.
 
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Itachi said:
I read. Didn't see anything related to the thread.

Point being, while unavoidable defeats may make fans walk out, buying tickets is different aspect. Hence, with regards to this thread, there won't be any impact in the sell of the ticket even if India loses to Pakistan.
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Then you didn't read the article properly. The rise of indians buying tickets is attributed to india's success in cricket post 2000. (did you miss the part where the article said pakistanis outnumbered indians?).

Nothing to do with affordability but everything to do with demand. Not to mention that anyone from anywhere in the world can buy tickets, meaning if tickets were restricted to just citizens of England, the percentage breakdown would be different, instead 1B vs 150M is a no brainer, Indians by laws of probability will end up with more tickets.

The above has everything to do with this thread.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Then you didn't read the article properly. The rise of indians buying tickets is attributed to india's success in cricket post 2000. (did you miss the part where the article said pakistanis outnumbered indians?).

Nothing to do with affordability but everything to do with demand. Not to mention that anyone from anywhere in the world can buy tickets, meaning if tickets were restricted to just citizens of England, the percentage breakdown would be different, instead 1B vs 150M is a no brainer, Indians by laws of probability will end up with more tickets.

The above has everything to do with this thread.
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First of all, I don't take words of an article as gospel. That's the opinion of an author.

With the rise of economy, more and more numbers of people in India could afford entertainment such as buying tickets for a cricket match which wasn't the case in previous generations.

The issue in this logic is, there are two undefined variables in the equation.

1. Success and winning habit.
2. Growing economy.

Both can impact the final result. But since these two can't be measured, it will be always an open debate.
 
Itachi said:
First of all, I don't take words of an article as gospel. That's the opinion of an author.

With the rise of economy, more and more numbers of people in India could afford entertainment such as buying tickets for a cricket match which wasn't the case in previous generations.

The issue in this logic is, there are two undefined variables in the equation.

1. Success and winning habit.
2. Growing economy.

Both can impact the final result. But since these two can't be measured, it will be always an open debate.
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The case in the previous generation was india wasn't as successful compared to these days so demand has changed. Even if your point of growing economy is granted it still adds weight to the point of demand. Facts is pakistanis outnumbered indians pre 2000 at Pak/Ind encounters, mainly due to demand. Remember, Bharat army was created because of pak fans outnumbering indian fans. Oh and the growing economy wasn't the case in early 00s, where indian were out numbering pak fans, so the economy is a moot point.

If you feel neither can be measured and that the words of an article cannot be taken as gospel, then why are you supporting the conclusion of an article in the OP?
 
half u guys are talking nonsense. talking about income per house. more than 25,000 pakistan fans would have applied in the ballots probably about 100,000 at a minimum.

The fact that this is a neutral venue, in a pakistani region of uk, and they couldnt even make it a 50-50 is pure stupidity.

I dont even have a job that pays anything decent yet i applied for these tickets and got rejected at every stage. Also every one of my bros got rejected thats another 4.

Also when india pakistan takes place, no one looks at the current form, everyone looks at the match itself so old wounds are healed and everyone wants a victory. Infact, pak beat india in 2017 so they must have a good memory of that.
 
Technics 1210 said:
The case in the previous generation was india wasn't as successful compared to these days so demand has changed. Even if your point of growing economy is granted it still adds weight to the point of demand. Facts is pakistanis outnumbered indians pre 2000 at Pak/Ind encounters, mainly due to demand. Remember, Bharat army was created because of pak fans outnumbering indian fans. Oh and the growing economy wasn't the case in early 00s, where indian were out numbering pak fans, so the economy is a moot point.

If you feel neither can be measured and that the words of an article cannot be taken as gospel, then why are you supporting the conclusion of an article in the OP?
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Because these %, if stated wrongly, one can legally sue the paper.
 
shazia9000 said:
half u guys are talking nonsense. talking about income per house. more than 25,000 pakistan fans would have applied in the ballots probably about 100,000 at a minimum.

The fact that this is a neutral venue, in a pakistani region of uk, and they couldnt even make it a 50-50 is pure stupidity.

I dont even have a job that pays anything decent yet i applied for these tickets and got rejected at every stage. Also every one of my bros got rejected thats another 4.

Also when india pakistan takes place, no one looks at the current form, everyone looks at the match itself so old wounds are healed and everyone wants a victory. Infact, pak beat india in 2017 so they must have a good memory of that.
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From your post, it looks like you are frustrated and angry because you didn't get the tickets.

As it has been stated by your own Pak fans (who got tickets), Pakistani fans aren't well organised like Indians to get the tickets. It's a chaos for you guys. That's why you didn't get it (not my words, your own fans told it)
 
There’s always more Indian supporters than Pakistanis. Was the same at the Champions Trophy. All we need is our team to do this play without any mental pressure...it’ll be a tough one but let’s see how it goes
 
May be the grand plan is to buy as many tickets as possible and then burn them. Because our patriotic fans wanted to boycott this match and teach Pakistan a lesson after Pulwama attacks? :inti
 
I find the fact that Indian fans like [MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] claim a paper can be sued for inaccuracy when said article is used as a basis to defend India. Simply put, an article which is the basis of his argument can be sued for in accuracy, but another article challenging his view cannot be taken for gospel.

Love it.
 
I think some are bringing into overall wealth between the two which has nothing to do with buying tickets.

Fact is tickets were suppose to be allocated evenly between the two sets of supporters just like uefa did in the final.
 
Majestic_Inzi said:
I think some are bringing into overall wealth between the two which has nothing to do with buying tickets.

Fact is tickets were suppose to be allocated evenly between the two sets of supporters just like uefa did in the final.
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I agree with you 100%.
But SOME indian fans are claiming pak fans are uneducated and too poor to afford to buy the tickets and thats why indians have bought more than three times as many tickets!
 
Captain caveman said:
I agree with you 100%.
But SOME indian fans are claiming pak fans are uneducated and too poor to afford to buy the tickets and thats why indians have bought more than three times as many tickets!
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Just arrogance by some of them who claim this...

I believe ICC and BCCI done this deliberately..
 
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