WC2019: 66.6 per cent of tickets sold to India supporters compared to just 18.1 per cent to Pakistan

[Captain caveman]

Spot on!!.. To blame ICC for tickets is illogical. Even Indian fans Outnumbered England fans, did any England fan raised the concerk ??
It all about the interest and better planning.

Doesn't matter!
The game will be abandoned half way thru due to rain, according to weather reports.
And as the game would have been half played - NO REFUNDS!
A heck of alot more indian fans losing out than pak fans!

 

[Itachi]

Doesn't matter!
The game will be abandoned half way thru due to rain, according to weather reports.
And as the game would have been half played - NO REFUNDS!
A heck of alot more indian fans losing out than pak fans!

With the growing economy, the price of the tickets wont be even under consideration for Indians. No one cares about the refund.

We'll just watch it as t20.

 

[BlueBeamer]

With the growing economy, the price of the tickets wont be even under consideration for Indians. No one cares about the refund.

We'll just watch it as t20.

Exactly. Also an average Indian fan is much more affluent than a Pakistani one so ticket costs are the last thing they'll worry about. Most Indians fans will be disappointed if the game gets washed out.

 

[Captain caveman]

With the growing economy, the price of the tickets wont be even under consideration for Indians. No one cares about the refund.

We'll just watch it as t20.

You may not get a 20 over match!
Most likely abandoned part way thru.
Everyone wants a refund when they are short changed!

 

[Captain caveman]

Exactly. Also an average Indian fan is much more affluent than a Pakistani one so ticket costs are the last thing they'll worry about. Most Indians fans will be disappointed if the game gets washed out.

Arrogance and ignorance seems a common trait with alot of indian fans!

 

[BlueBeamer]

Arrogance and ignorance seems a common trait with alot of indian fans!

So stating facts now surmounts to arrogance?

 

[Hawkeye]

Exactly. Also an average Indian fan is much more affluent than a Pakistani one so ticket costs are the last thing they'll worry about. Most Indians fans will be disappointed if the game gets washed out.

A much higher percentage of Indians live below the poverty line than Pak. There's extreme poverty in huge parts of IND, much higher than the neighboring countries.

Stop fooling people and get a grip on reality.

Overseas, it's pretty much equal in terms of percentages for both the people.

 

[Itachi]

A much higher percentage of Indians live below the poverty line than Pak. There's extreme poverty in huge parts of IND, much higher than the neighboring countries.

Stop fooling people and get a grip on reality.

Overseas, it's pretty much equal in terms of percentages for both the people.

.... Those who buys tickets, they don't care about refund.

.... Those who cares about refund, won't buy tickets in the first place(like myself).

 

[emranabbas]

To be fair not many Pakistanis in uk are a big fan of cricket those who are majority are overseas Pakistanis.

Nobody likes paying to watch their team lose.

 

[Rana]

To be fair not many Pakistanis in uk are a big fan of cricket those who are majority are overseas Pakistanis.

Nobody likes paying to watch their team lose.

??? hain????

Ive heard it all now!

 

[shokz1408]

To be fair not many Pakistanis in uk are a big fan of cricket those who are majority are overseas Pakistanis.

You are seriously misinformed there.

 

[emranabbas]

You are seriously misinformed there.

No I am not, I live in UK and I'm talking by experience.

Younger generation prefere football or boxing over cricket.

 

[Revolution]

Doesn't matter!
The game will be abandoned half way thru due to rain, according to weather reports.
And as the game would have been half played - NO REFUNDS!
A heck of alot more indian fans losing out than pak fans!

LOL.. Then why this thread was opened.

Second thing you people told we are ready to buy tickets for any amount to show fan power in stadium

Statements are contradicting.

 

[Captain caveman]

So stating facts now surmounts to arrogance?

It depends on what parameters you are using in your stats .
More pakistanis than indians in each brackett per salary per month except for the top bracket where there are 38 % indians in this bracket compared to 18% of pakistanis. This is data for british asians from the office of national statistics(the govt uses these stats, i dont know if i am allowed to post the link, but you can google it).
Therefore, for a mean average what you say is true, but for a mode average, pakistanis earn more than indans!
And hence you would be WRONG!

 

[shokz1408]

No I am not, I live in UK and I'm talking by experience.

Younger generation prefere football or boxing over cricket.

You might be right on the preference of younger kids in this generation, but that would extend to outside the UK too. Otherwise, for other age groups, I think you'll find cricket a fan favourite, where most Pakistanis going to matches are likely to be UK based.

 

[Captain caveman]

It depends on what parameters you are using in your stats .
More pakistanis than indians in each brackett per salary per month except for the top bracket where there are 38 % indians in this bracket compared to 18% of pakistanis. This is data for british asians from the office of national statistics(the govt uses these stats, i dont know if i am allowed to post the link, but you can google it).
Therefore, for a mean average what you say is true, but for a mode average, pakistanis earn more than indans!
And hence you would be WRONG!

A mode average would be better than a mean average because a mean average spreads the income fom higher earners and distributes it to lower earners giving a tilted average.whereas, a mode averagentakes into the frequency of each person and what they earn, giving a closer average to what each individual earns.

 

[Captain caveman]

A mode average would be better than a mean average because a mean average spreads the income fom higher earners and distributes it to lower earners giving a tilted average.whereas, a mode averagentakes into the frequency of each person and what they earn, giving a closer average to what each individual earns.

I.e. only 18% of indians earn more than pakistanis but upto 82% of pakistanis earn as much or more than indians.

 

[Hawkeye]

It depends on what parameters you are using in your stats .
More pakistanis than indians in each brackett per salary per month except for the top bracket where there are 38 % indians in this bracket compared to 18% of pakistanis. This is data for british asians from the office of national statistics(the govt uses these stats, i dont know if i am allowed to post the link, but you can google it).
Therefore, for a mean average what you say is true, but for a mode average, pakistanis earn more than indans!
And hence you would be WRONG!

I.e. only 18% of indians earn more than pakistanis but upto 82% of pakistanis earn as much or more than indians.

Good stuff.

Thanks for talking some facts here - some of the 'patriotic' parosis love to cry over things, based on stuff they have no idea about.

 

[Itachi]

I.e. only 18% of indians earn more than pakistanis but upto 82% of pakistanis earn as much or more than indians.

Kindly add "in UK". This isn't what we the Desi ones talking about.

 

[Captain caveman]

They bought the tickets, were organised and got in there first.

So well done to them really.

Come on man, you know only half the tickets (12,000) were made available in the bidding process. The other half were allocated to india affiliated ticket agencies!

 

[Captain caveman]

Kindly add "in UK". This isn't what we the Desi ones talking about.

I said for british asians!

 

[emranabbas]

You might be right on the preference of younger kids in this generation, but that would extend to outside the UK too. Otherwise, for other age groups, I think you'll find cricket a fan favourite, where most Pakistanis going to matches are likely to be UK based.

You might be right too about the Pakistani crowd in UK and that would simply be because after Dubai most Pakistani are based in uk, but if you look at the overall percentage of Pakistan population then only a small amount is intrested in Pakistani cricket.

 

[Captain caveman]

I.e. only 18% of indians earn more than pakistanis but upto 82% of pakistanis earn as much or more than indians.

To be fair those 18% indians earn considerably more than the 82% of pakistanis and thats why a mean average gives a skewed result.

 

[BalluBalleBaaz]

This thread is about tickets guys not HDI. Keep it simple. From my point of view. Tickets sold depends on how one person's team is performing.

 

[Captain caveman]

You might be right too about the Pakistani crowd in UK and that would simply be because after Dubai most Pakistani are based in uk, but if you look at the overall percentage of Pakistan population then only a small amount is intrested in Pakistani cricket.

In the uk youngsters are more interested in football and behaving like gangstas!
But when it comes to an india vs pak cricket match in the wc, nearly every pakistani is interested in watching this!

 

[Captain caveman]

This thread is about tickets guys not HDI. Keep it simple. From my point of view. Tickets sold depends on how one person's team is performing.

And fairness of availability of tickets!

 

[Tiger96]

Pakistanis cannot compete against Indians in terms of purchasing power for Tickets, that's why low priced tickets for PSL matches are sold out but cannot shell out money for World Cup Matches .

 

[Revolution]

And fairness of availability of tickets!

How is the crowd for other pak matches?

 

[Captain caveman]

How is the crowd for other pak matches?

I dont have the figures but from what i have seen very good!
Look no one in their right mind is going to argue with the fact that india has the largest cricket fanbase in the world. Due to the popularity of cricket in india and its population.
But in the uk, pak cricket has a good following, especially for a wc match and that with india. So a 50/50 split would have been more fair.
Anyway, congratulations to all of you who have tickets, i genuinely hope there is a full match and it is a close match(obviously with pak winning in the end)!
I will be cheering from home and to my fellow pak fans attending the match, its your responsibility to make as much noise as our indian brothers and sisters!
Let the best team win(weather permitting)

 

[cricketjoshila]

Come on man, you know only half the tickets (12,000) were made available in the bidding process. The other half were allocated to india affiliated ticket agencies!

So ask the pakistani companies to go out there and shell out the money to get these allocations.

 

[cricketjoshila]

A package to UK with a avg hotel,airfare and ordinary tickets is selling for INR 300000. Thats 660k Pkr and close to $4000 and £3000.

Thats how much Indians are willing to pay.

PS: some packages include london tour.

 

[Revolution]

I dont have the figures but from what i have seen very good!
Look no one in their right mind is going to argue with the fact that india has the largest cricket fanbase in the world. Due to the popularity of cricket in india and its population.
But in the uk, pak cricket has a good following, especially for a wc match and that with india. So a 50/50 split would have been more fair.
Anyway, congratulations to all of you who have tickets, i genuinely hope there is a full match and it is a close match(obviously with pak winning in the end)!
I will be cheering from home and to my fellow pak fans attending the match, its your responsibility to make as much noise as our indian brothers and sisters!
Let the best team win(weather permitting)

In UK if pak has good supporters why other Pakistan matches were not full. Versus West Indies match it had poor turnout.

Stop crying for everything. Accept the fact that you people are not interested in cricket.

 

[Captain caveman]

So ask the pakistani companies to go out there and shell out the money to get these allocations.

The problem with people like you and i've seen many like you in the subcontinent, is you think money overrides fairness and basic humanity. The more money, the more important a person is and they don't have to abide by the law or basic fairness.
Thas why your part of the world is undeveloped and is considerably backward compared to the west!
Anyway, i had posted my last post in ths thread earlier, but i had to tell you straight, as you are a serial offender.
No need to reply( you will because your whole meaning on being on this forum is to show your hatred), as i'm done with this topic!
To all those indian and pak friends going to watch the match in old trafford, enjoy and whatever the result, remember its only a game and theres more important things in life!

 

[Captain caveman]

In UK if pak has good supporters why other Pakistan matches were not full. Versus West Indies match it had poor turnout.

Stop crying for everything. Accept the fact that you people are not interested in cricket.

I'm not crying!
I am trying to explain fairness to a country which is one of the most unfair in the world and from your responses and some of your country fellowman responses, i can see india will remain an unfair country for a considerable long time!

I will answer your question, before i end my participation in this thread.
We may not sell out matches against WI, as there is no rivalry between pak and WI, but we could have sold out old trafford many times over, to see us whoop you guys!

 

[Captain caveman]

Good day to you all and goodbye!

 

[jaf348]

Look at the Asia cup in the UAE last year. I can understand Indians but it was inexcusable for Afghans and Bangladeshis to even be outnumbering Pakistani supporters. Just listening to the crowd noise in the BD vs Pak semi final, you'd have thought it was being played in Dhaka. Maybe Pakistanis in general are simply losing interest in cricket.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The problem with people like you and i've seen many like you in the subcontinent, is you think money overrides fairness and basic humanity. The more money, the more important a person is and they don't have to abide by the law or basic fairness.
Thas why your part of the world is undeveloped and is considerably backward compared to the west!
Anyway, i had posted my last post in ths thread earlier, but i had to tell you straight, as you are a serial offender.
No need to reply( you will because your whole meaning on being on this forum is to show your hatred), as i'm done with this topic!
To all those indian and pak friends going to watch the match in old trafford, enjoy and whatever the result, remember its only a game and theres more important things in life!

Money pays the ICC bills, whining here doesnot.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

In UK if pak has good supporters why other Pakistan matches were not full. Versus West Indies match it had poor turnout.

Stop crying for everything. Accept the fact that you people are not interested in cricket.

That was partly to do with Ramadhan.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

Money pays the ICC bills, whining here doesnot.

I really hate your arrogance and your attitude.

Every great empire falls, Pakistan not at their best in this ere but we take comfort from the fact our head to head record is still better.

Pak will eventually takeover the throne.

 

[Chokli]

Look at the Asia cup in the UAE last year. I can understand Indians but it was inexcusable for Afghans and Bangladeshis to even be outnumbering Pakistani supporters. Just listening to the crowd noise in the BD vs Pak semi final, you'd have thought it was being played in Dhaka. Maybe Pakistanis in general are simply losing interest in cricket.

Do you blame them for losing interest? Been playing in the UAE since 2009 and have always lost to South Africa, New Zealand, India, Australia & England.

 

[Captain caveman]

Money pays the ICC bills, whining here doesnot.

3rd world mentality

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

3rd world mentality

I disagree..

It's Indian mentality, arrogance, no one else can afford tickets just indians.

 

[RajBan]

Difficult choices between 50:50 split, lottery or FCFS. Whichever way one goes I will be very inclined to see ICC ensuring that only the first hand buyer attends a match. If he/she is not able to then they have to return the ticket to the organizers within a cutoff period and cancel the booking. The ticket can then be given to the next available applicant in queue.

This open facilitation of black market needs to be curbed down at any cost. Nothing more unfair than that.

 

[Itachi]

3rd world mentality

that's the basic aspect of life.

Whoever brings more money to the table, will have his final say. If you want equal shares, then bring equal contribution. If tomorrow, india fails to bring money, then india will be in the same position as other nations. Instead of whining, ask PCB or other boards to be competent and face the battle.

BCCI didn't achieve this position in just one day. It struggled, it build a future vision, worked hard on it and then it has become the powerhouse in cricket. It deserves everything that it gets.

 

[shazia9000]

In UK if pak has good supporters why other Pakistan matches were not full. Versus West Indies match it had poor turnout.

Stop crying for everything. Accept the fact that you people are not interested in cricket.

lol ur game at the rose bowl vs south africa was not even 70 percent full. The pakistan vs west indies game was more packt. And I couldnt get hold of tickets for that game as their are issues with tickets not been returned by sponsors.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I really hate your arrogance and your attitude.

Every great empire falls, Pakistan not at their best in this ere but we take comfort from the fact our head to head record is still better.

Pak will eventually takeover the throne.

When you takeover the throne, the rest will keep their silence.

Right now, the ones who help ICC get their revenue will have their say.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I disagree..

It's Indian mentality, arrogance, no one else can afford tickets just indians.

So what stopped pakistani agencies from paying the ICC and getting tickets and then selling it to pakistanis?

 

[The Chaudrey]

How can ICC justify such lopsided ticket allocation for Pakistan-India fixture?

ICC claimed that ticket allocations were on a ballot system. Consequently, how have so many tickets ended up with Indian supporters?

The ICC need to be held to account as this indicates nefarious practices, but it seems even the commentators are not brave enough to raise this point (probably worried their valuable contacts will be mysteriously terminated).

 

[Revolution]

Good day to you all and goodbye!

Our fans have 200% entertainment. Worth the wait and money .

 

[shokz1408]

I was there. Where were you fellow pakistanis at? This stadium was 90% indian crowd, in my block I was surrounded by indian supporters left, right, behind.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

I was there it was about 75% Indian.

Some fans behaviour was disgusting.

 

[Zaz]

I was there. Where were you fellow pakistanis at? This stadium was 90% indian crowd, in my block I was surrounded by indian supporters left, right, behind.

The fellow pakistanis didnt get tickets I personally know dozens of pakistan fans who applied and didnt get any at all

Looks like ICC reserved them for the indian fans only

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

I was there it was about 75% Indian.

Some fans behaviour was disgusting.

Infact it was 90% Indian 10%Pakistani and i AGREE woth you a lot of the indian fans behaviout was disgusting and disrespectfull to say the least

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Infact it was 90% Indian 10%Pakistani and i AGREE with you a lot of the indian fans behaviour was disgusting and disrespectfull to say the least...

 

[topspin]

I was there it was about 75% Indian.

Some fans behaviour was disgusting.

What did they do?

 

[Bangladesh_Fan]

Look at the Asia cup in the UAE last year. I can understand Indians but it was inexcusable for Afghans and Bangladeshis to even be outnumbering Pakistani supporters. Just listening to the crowd noise in the BD vs Pak semi final, you'd have thought it was being played in Dhaka. Maybe Pakistanis in general are simply losing interest in cricket.

There is a big BD population in UAE , it wasn't surprising to see our support and BD don't play much in UAE either so more interest.

 

[MMHS]

There is a big BD population in UAE , it wasn't surprising to see our support and BD don't play much in UAE either so more interest.

No, it’s not the reason. Otherwise PCB won’t have been cautious about hosting BD in UAE - even WIN & NZ earns more money for them hosting in UAE.

The reason PAK supporters didn’t turn much in BD games is for their elite status - they are not interested watching minnows. While Bangladeshis are minnows in cricket field and beggars in financials - they had the lifetime opportunity to watch some natural talunt..... came in numbers selling their chaddi, lungi.

Haven’t you read that those Bangladeshi beggars cleaned the stadium because they do that job better - sweepers & cleaners?

 

[GLORY OF '92]

What did they do?

After the quick wickets were shouting in our faces etc. Took a lot of restraint to not use force

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

After the quick wickets were shouting in our faces etc. Took a lot of restraint to not use force

This is why there should have been even split.

The presenters said 700k applied for tickets, but non question why india got so many.

 

[topspin]

After the quick wickets were shouting in our faces etc. Took a lot of restraint to not use force

Seems like the mob mentality of BJP and others from back home have taught them well. Indians show their when it's cowardice 1 v 1, but 10 v 1 with a bit of booze their true colours come out.

 

[shazia9000]

I would have smacked anyone shouting in my face.

 

[gazza619]

After the quick wickets were shouting in our faces etc. Took a lot of restraint to not use force

Damn. Sounds like a awful experience.

Guess what, never mind. I made two lovely clips of our players giggling in another thread. Watch those. Will give you a very peaceful good night sleep.

 

[Itachi]

I would have smacked anyone shouting in my face.

You would have ended up in hospital.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Indians especially non-muslims take cricket as 2nd religion so there’s no way you’re going to have 50-50 in the crowds in UK, America where there’s big mix desi populations. Plus some of them fly in from other parts. Englands grounds capacity not big enough. Even in Melbourne 2015 huge capacity that was probably 80-20 to Indian fans, they will always most likely to out number you. Cricket is like a religion for them.

 

[Revolution]

You would have ended up in hospital.

No no.. He would have been behind the bars !!

 

[The Rope]

After the quick wickets were shouting in our faces etc. Took a lot of restraint to not use force

Seems like the mob mentality of BJP and others from back home have taught them well. Indians show their when it's cowardice 1 v 1, but 10 v 1 with a bit of booze their true colours come out.

Is this like your first time visiting a sports stadium?

 

[Babbar]

This is why there should have been even split.


The presenters said 700k applied for tickets, but non question why india got so many.

As per one source, 600K out of 700K applicants were Indians. Many Indian companies applied in advance to entertain their key employees and customers. I know of one Bangalore company that took 40 of its high performing employees from India to UK just to watch this match spending 200K dollars.

A 50-50 split would have been against the principle of equality as there are 7x Indians in the world and they have more reason to support their team.


India lost a crucial toss, Kohli was not out but still gone, Fakhar was out but not given, Umpire helping Pak by giving a non-existent No ball of Bumrah, Dhavan who took Aus to cleaners could not even play, Bhuvi got injured at the start with Indians having to use college-level bowler like Shankar, Rains reducing target for Pakistan, more pressure on India due to spectators, Dhoni, the great finisher, getting out on 2nd ball.

Everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong with India in this match, except the result.

Hopefully, India will play better against ENG and umpires will be less biased for a white team.

 

[Sir Alex]

Isn't 20 : 66 atypical of the population split ? Generally NRIs tend to wear their sleeves on their heart and be overtly national. Plus the booze and of course against Pakistan can only amplify their behaviour. But that's what spirited passion to follow the game brings with it.

For example when IPL was conducted in UAE the stadia were all filled in and we know how pathetic it is when Paksitan league was conducted here. And UAE is like 1 hours flight from Pakistan.

I think once Pakistan becomes formidable like it was in the 90s in cricket naturally fan following would restore to parity.

 

[Lovelydayall]

18% Pakistani fans should sue Pakistani cricket team for not showing up on the match day.

 

[nosundries]

After the quick wickets were shouting in our faces etc. Took a lot of restraint to not use force

Did any Indian fan asked the Pakistani players "Baap Kaun hai?" .. Remember a video of a Pakistani fan saying this to the Indian team after the CT final and Shami was unhappy ..

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

I was at the lords match yesterday, Waqar said to the lords crowd which was jammed packed with pakistan fans "where were you at the india game?"

Yet we have indian posters here sayin pakistanis cant afford tickets.

Icc did not play fair, SA players were really intimidated..

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

I have no issues if one team cant fill ther allocations then its given to the other side but icc and bcci played us..

 

[Captain caveman]

Pcb and the rest of the boards , especially ecb and bcb should lodge a formal complaint with the icc and demand an investigation to why 90% tickets for matches against india are sold to indian fans!
This is paramount to CHEATING!

 

[Kroll]

That was scandalous, the ICC should not be allowed to get away with it. There should have been a system in place where a large proportion of ticket should have been made available to the local population to reflect support for the teams. The north west has a much bigger support for Pakistan than India including Manchester.

 

[Babbar]

It’s a question of Demand-supply. Pakistan asked for 40-60K tickets in both matches, Against India, there was Indian demand for over 6 Lakh tickets so Pakistan just got 10% proportionately.

Against SA, 90% of ticket applicants were Pakistanis so they got almost all seats.

unlike Pakistan, the ROW does not run on conspiracies.

 

[Kroll]

It’s a question of Demand-supply. Pakistan asked for 40-60K tickets in both matches, Against India, there was Indian demand for over 6 Lakh tickets so Pakistan just got 10% proportionately.

Against SA, 90% of ticket applicants were Pakistanis so they got almost all seats.

unlike Pakistan, the ROW does not run on conspiracies.

This doesn't mean anything. Pakistan support could fill OT many times over.

 

[tahir_dj]

It’s a question of Demand-supply. Pakistan asked for 40-60K tickets in both matches, Against India, there was Indian demand for over 6 Lakh tickets so Pakistan just got 10% proportionately.

Against SA, 90% of ticket applicants were Pakistanis so they got almost all seats.

unlike Pakistan, the ROW does not run on conspiracies.

Its not conspiracy
For Over 500k aplication at least 100 to 200k were pakistanis
Including me and i told my family and friend to apply for them individually
Non of us got any tickets

 

[Technics 1210]

Indians especially non-muslims take cricket as 2nd religion so there’s no way you’re going to have 50-50 in the crowds in UK, America where there’s big mix desi populations. Plus some of them fly in from other parts. Englands grounds capacity not big enough. Even in Melbourne 2015 huge capacity that was probably 80-20 to Indian fans, they will always most likely to out number you. Cricket is like a religion for them.

It's a new found religion for them; most of today's India cricket fans started following when India was consistently winning post 2003, and since the brief economic expansion, the fans now have money, so are in a position to buy tickets. Before that it was mostly a case of "We do not follow cricket much". So much so, before 2011, the majority of new born fans didn't even know India had won a World Cup in 1983.

 

[barah_admi]

I clearly remember posting before ct 2017 that a scandal was occurring when it comes to tickets. People on here tired to claim there wasn't. Now they are seeing it with their own eyes.

Not enough Pakistani demands for tickets is the stupidest thing I have eve heard.

 

[Babbar]

This doesn't mean anything. Pakistan support could fill OT many times over.

Damn! I was trying to hide the fact but failed! Simple explanation is that Indians rule the world, at least the world of cricket!

Need to set up resistance before it’s too late.