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What are the options left for the Palestinians in Occupied Lands?

What are the options left for the Palestinians in Occupied Lands?


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Two state solution will not work with so many holy sites at stake even for the Palestinians.
 
Yet many Pakistanis consider the Hamas and Kashmiri militants as "freedom fighters" while militants from the above groups as "terrorists". So let's agree it all depends on which side of the line you stand.

In todays world bhagat singh would also be a terrorist
 
Palestinians dont claim the land because they believe God gave it to them. Thats the other side who says God gave them the land, and they allegedly had ancestors who lived there 2,000 years ago.

The Palestinian claim is that they were the overwhelming majority in the land.

1922 census of Palestine conducted by British - Jewish Population 11%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_census_of_Palestine

Ottoman census of 1878 - Jewish population 5%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)#Late_Ottoman_period

They did not ask people from Europe, who looked European, spoke European languages, had a European culture to immigrate there.

Ottoman empire had to pay the price of being involved in the ww1
 
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Shocking....

My Dear Palestinians, please end this shooting of fire crackers at Israel, they will destroy you with their bombs, no prophets or god is coming to save you. Please please act smart, please save the lives of your loved ones...
 
In todays world bhagat singh would also be a terrorist

It's why I said who's a terrorist and who's a freedom fighter depends on what side of the line you stand on.

For Pakistan, the LTTE were a terrorist organisation because it is geopolitically allied with the government of Sri Lanka. The PKK are a terrorist group because it's allied with Turkey while the Kurds don't have a country for their own. But the Hamas are freedom fighters as it's geopolitically/culturally aligned with the Palestinian cause. Same with the Kashmiri militant groups for Pakistan and the vice versa applies to India.

Who's a freedom fighter committing "resistance" and who's a terrorist committing "atrocities" in today's world depends on your geopolitical alliances more than freedom, human rights and things like that. This applies not just to Pakistan, but also to India and pretty much every other country out there.
 
Sitting in their cozy rooms people asking others to engage in violence.

This.

How many of the proponents of 'resistance' are actually willing to pick up a gun, get at the scene of the action and actually do something to help their 'brothers' resist the occupation? Zilch.

Couch potato warriors.
 
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Damn.. This video is like something straight out of a dystopian movie. I can only feel for the poor people living there with constant fear of missiles falling from the sky.
 
While death, damage and suffering have been caused to both sides in the escalating hostilities between Palestinian militant groups in the Gaza Strip and the Israeli military, this remains a hugely asymmetric struggle.

Israel is the vastly more powerful player and its air force, armed drones and intelligence-gathering systems enable it to strike targets in Gaza pretty much at will. It insists that its targeting is restricted to sites used for military purposes but the density of the Palestinian population and the fact that Hamas and Islamic Jihad facilities are located close to, and often hidden under, civilian buildings makes the avoidance of civilian casualties altogether impossible.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad, though the weaker parties, have weapons enough with which to attack Israel. They have already tried a variety of tactics. Israeli defences shot down a drone - possibly armed - that had sought to cross into Israel from Gaza. And an Israeli military spokesman said an "elite Hamas unit" had attempted to infiltrate Israel through a tunnel from the southern part of the strip. The Israeli military, it seems, had advance warning of this and, according to the spokesman, was able to "cause the tunnel to implode".

But by far and away the most significant weaponry in the Palestinians' arsenal is their wide variety of ground-to-ground missiles. Some of these (along with other systems employed like the Kornet guided anti-tank missiles used during recent days), are believed to have been smuggled in through tunnels from Egypt's Sinai peninsula.

But by far the bulk of the Hamas and Islamic Jihad arsenals come from a dynamic and relatively sophisticated manufacturing capability inside the Gaza Strip itself. Israeli and outside experts believe that Iranian know-how and assistance have played a significant role in building up this industry. Accordingly, weapons manufacturing and storage sites have been among the chief targets of the Israeli strikes.

Estimating the stockpile of Hamas missiles is impossible.

It certainly includes many thousands of weapons of varying ranges. Clearly the Israeli military has its own estimates that it is not willing to share. All a spokesmen would say was that they believed Hamas could sustain this level of fire for "a significant period of time".

The Palestinians are employing a variety of missiles, none of which, so far, appear to be especially new in terms of basic design. But the overall trend is for the weapons to have increased ranges and larger explosive payloads.

While the names and designations of specific missiles can be a bit confusing, Hamas has a huge inventory of shorter-range systems like the Qassam (up to 10km or 6 miles) and the Quds 101 (up to about 16km); bolstered by the Grad system (up to 55km); and the Sejil 55 (up to 55km). These probably make up the bulk of its inventory and for the shortest ranges can be bolstered by mortar fire.

But Hamas also operates a variety of longer-range systems like the M-75 (up to 75km); the Fajr (up to 100km); the R-160 (up to 120km); and some M-302s which have a range of up to 200km. So it is clear that Hamas has weapons that can target both Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, and threaten the whole coastal strip which contains the greatest density of Israel's population and critical infrastructure.

The Israeli military says that of the more than 1,000 or so rockets fired into Israel over the past three days, some 200 have actually fallen short in the Gaza Strip itself (perhaps an indicator of the problems of a home-grown and dispersed weapons manufacturing process).

The IDF also say 90% of all missiles reaching Israel have been intercepted by their Iron Dome anti-missile system. However, at one stage the battery defending the city of Ashkelon appears to have been off-line due to a technical malfunction, underlining that for all its remarkable technical success, this is not a missile-proof screen.

To counter missile fire you only really have a limited number of options. You can employ anti-missile defences. You can target stockpiles and manufacturing facilities. You could in theory also mount a ground operation to push the missile-launchers back beyond effective range.

That is not going to be possible in this case. Part of the Palestinians' vulnerability is that they have no strategic depth and nowhere to go. A ground operation to stifle the missile fire is possible. But as was shown in Israel's last major incursion into Gaza in 2014, the human cost would be considerable. During the operation, 2,251 Palestinians, including 1,462 civilians, were killed, while on the Israeli side 67 soldiers and six civilians were killed.

This repeating cycle of rocket-fire, response and incursion gets neither side anywhere. At best, it buys a period of calm before the next round begins. Many might argue that it was the tensions in Jerusalem that started this particular episode. A signal once again that the Israel-Palestinian dispute cannot be ignored forever.

But with more and more Arab governments making their peace with Israel; with the Palestinians politically as divided as ever; and with this issue being far from the agenda of Israel's current leadership, it is hard to see how any progress towards a real peace can be made. For that you would need a real desire for progress on the ground and a strong and sustained effort by outside players. The conditions for this just do not appear to be there.

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Israel kills senior Hamas figures

Israel-Gaza Attack Today Live News Updates: The death toll in Gaza rose to 48 Palestinians, including 14 children and three women, according to the Health Ministry. More than 300 people have been wounded, including 86 children and 39 women.

Israel on Wednesday charged forward with a fierce military offensive in the Gaza Strip, killing as many as 10 senior Hamas military figures and toppling a pair of high-rise towers housing Hamas facilities in a series of airstrikes, AP reported.

Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to reaffirm America’s support for Israel’s right to defend itself from Hamas rocket attacks from Gaza. The State Department said that he stressed on the need for de-escalation of violence and the Biden administration’s belief that both Israelis and Palestinians have the right to live in safety and security.

Israeli airstrikes toppled most of a massive high-rise building in central Gaza City, in the latest escalation in Israel-Hamas fighting which has killed at least 48 Palestinians in Gaza, including 14 children and three women. More than 300 people have been wounded, including 86 children and 39 women. The Gaza building collapse was broadcast on Israeli TV channels, with commentators predicting Gaza militants would respond with a rocket barrage. In response to Israeli strikes, Hamas has said it has launched 130 rockets at Israel, according to AFP.

Earlier in the day, the Israeli military said it has killed several senior Hamas militant commanders in airstrikes in Gaza and Khan Younis. The army released a statement on Wednesday, saying that it carried out a “complex and first-of-its-kind operation.” Those targeted, it said, were “a key part of the Hamas General Staff” and considered close to the head of the group’s military wing.

Israel carried out hundreds of air strikes in Gaza into Wednesday morning, as Hamas and other Palestinian militants fired multiple rocket barrages at Tel Aviv and Beersheba. The severity of violence has escalated as 43 Palestinians were killed in Gaza and five in Israel following airstrikes. One multi-story residential building in Gaza collapsed and another was heavily damaged after they were repeatedly hit by Israeli airstrikes. Israel said its jets had targeted and killed several Hamas intelligence leaders early on Wednesday.

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/israel-palestine-gaza-violence-live-updates-7311895/
 
You think the Israeli government is the only party in this conflict? :)) You're acting like any Palestinian leader would agree to keep squatters, anti-settler politics are are also too powerful in the Palestinian community.

Of course in an ideal world these settlers would be booted out but unfortunately the reality is Israel's Govt has never been forced to pay a price for illegal settlements by the international community as the US will block sanctions, and Israel itself shows no sign of reining in the settler groups who've virtually taken over the Likud and other right wing parties.

Meanwhile the Palestinians have little leverage in negotiations. They have no army, no superpower on their side, little real support from Arab Governments, and no economic strength. Gaza would be uninhabitable without international aid.

Look no solution will perfectly satisfy everyone, but it's time to stop looking at outdated solutions (two states) that are no longer viable, or fantastical solutions (one state). It's very also easy calling for Palestinians to resist sitting on our beds when it's not our blood we'll shed.

The only realistic solution left is a loose confederation with joint institutions to tackle common issues of resource planning, security and economic development.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eid Mubarak to our Muslim Ummah. This is a very different Eid which we must celebrate in a quiet manner with our families, for 2 imp reasons. One: there is the Corona pandemic. In Pak we are now again beginning to control the spread so it is vital for our ppl to observe SOPs.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1392751631217856513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two, equally critical is the need for us all to show solidarity with the Kashmiris & Palestinians who are suffering oppression by Occupation Powers in complete violation of their international guaranteed basic human rights.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1392751633629683712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eid Mubarak to our Muslim Ummah. This is a very different Eid which we must celebrate in a quiet manner with our families, for 2 imp reasons. One: there is the Corona pandemic. In Pak we are now again beginning to control the spread so it is vital for our ppl to observe SOPs.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1392751631217856513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two, equally critical is the need for us all to show solidarity with the Kashmiris & Palestinians who are suffering oppression by Occupation Powers in complete violation of their international guaranteed basic human rights.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1392751633629683712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 13, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Attacks shown on live TV and social media

In one incident, camera crews broadcast the moment live on television when a crowd of Jewish Israelis attacked a driver in Bat Yam, a coastal city just south of Tel Aviv.

After vandalising Arab-owned property in the city, the group turned on the driver on the beachfront promenade. While they say the man was trying to ram them in his car, some argue that the footage appears to shows him trying to reverse away and then speed past the crowd.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="iw" dir="rtl">מהומות גם בבאר שבע: יהודים מפגינים ברחובות העיר וקוראים בקריאות גנאי כלפי ערבים<a href="https://twitter.com/pozailov1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@pozailov1</a> <a href="https://t.co/PSjoXTT1uW">pic.twitter.com/PSjoXTT1uW</a></p>— כאן חדשות (@kann_news) <a href="https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1392548038057545737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
A 2 state solution is dead in the water.

How on earth is that possible ? You have Hamas controlling Gaza which is an open air prison while the West Bank is in power by a total different ideological party called Fatah that is also surrounded by illegal Jewish settlements that are growing everyday for the past 50 years - some of them have become small cities.

That ship has sailed, there is only going to be one state. The question is if the Palestinians will be treated as human beings or second class citizens.
 
Palestinians only sensible option is to stay alive to fight another day. They are in no position to take on Israel in their current state so best they can do is avoid confrontation, as that is what the Zionists are looking for - any excuse to wipe out as many Palestinians as possible without triggering a wider war.

Jews also faced similar hardships during the 20th century, but they survived and are now strong enough to punish their perceived enemies. Palestinians need to have a likewise long term view.
 
MULTAN: Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Thursday said that Pakistan and Turkey have decided to jointly move the United Nations, with consensus among the Muslim ummah, for an urgent meeting of the UN General Assembly on the Palestine issue to stop the horrendous brutalities of the Israeli army targeting Palestinians.

Talking to journalists after saying his Eid prayers at the mausoleum of Hazrat Bahauddin Zakariya Multani, Qureshi said that the whole Pakistani nation stands united on the issues of Kashmir and Palestine.

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The foreign minister added that Turkey and Pakistan have adopted a joint strategy to convene a ministerial-level meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to develop consensus among the 57 Muslim countries to convene an urgent UNGA meeting on the Palestine issue.

The FM strongly condemned the brutal acts of violence by Israeli forces targeting Palestinian worshippers at Al-Aqsa mosque, forced eviction of Palestinians from Al-Jarrah neighbourhood, and air strike on Gaza city targeting civilians including children.

He said that Prime Minister Imran Khan talked with Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Saudi King Shah Salman on this sensitive issue.

Qureshi added that he was also tasked by PM Imran to talk to his Turkish counterpart, adding that he would contact the Turkish Foreign Minister (Today) Thursday.

FM Qureshi said that Pakistan has adopted a clear stance during the permanent representatives' meeting of the OIC held at Jeddah and added that other countries, including Turkey, have also expressed the same.

He said that they had presented a proposal and the Arab League also suggested convening an urgent ministerial-level meeting of the OIC on the Palestine issue to unite the 57 Muslim countries.

Qureshi said that the issue has been discussed at the security council and hoped it will be discussed further.

The foreign minister said that international organisations have faced troubles in Palestine due to Israeli violence and air strikes.

"And these organisations are also demanding immediate stoppage of atrocities in Palestine," he said, adding that world leaders should intensify efforts for peace and find out a solution to the longstanding dispute.

Qureshi said that Palestine and Kashmir issues are resolvable.

He, however, added that mobilising the Muslim ummah and international public opinion was vital to secure peace and protect the rights of the oppressed.

He requested the 65 million Muslims living in European countries to write letters to members of their respective parliaments, the European Parliament, the British Parliament and the Muslims living in the US should write letters to US Congress to convey their grievances regarding the brutalities in Palestine and Kashmir.

About the Afghan peace process, Shah Mahmood Qureshi said that the world has acknowledged and hailed the role of Pakistan for peace in Afghanistan.

Qureshi welcomed the Eid truce between the Taliban and the Afghan government, adding that the Intra-Afghan dialogue, which had started from Doha, has been heading forward.

He said it was a positive step of the Taliban and the Afghan government to opt for no hostility during Eid days.

Qureshi said that Pakistan wished and tried for permanent and lasting peace in Afghanistan and that it was in the best interest of Pakistan.

"Peace would mean safe borders and would enable Afghan refugees living in Pakistan to return to their country respectfully," he said.

The foreign minister said that peace in Afghanistan would also impact the national economy positively through regional connectivity.
 
Not only the Palestinians rather the Israel wants all Arab's dead. The "kill all Arab's" written on the walls of the region is such a common thing seen by all. We live in a world where only power and weapons are respected to keep the enemy at bay, nothing else. The Arab's are so helpless that they have to side with Israel otherwise the likes of Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi and the UAE are not far from being invaded under some false pretence. Allah gave the Arab's centuries to build decent armies and produce weapons to defend themselves instead they were belly dancing, partying and gambling. I recall years back Dr Israr Ahmed saying how punishment of unparalleled level is awaiting the Arab's. Many Arab countries banned the Dr's speeches in their country thinking they were above divine law.
 
NATO is a military entity because they have the economic power, the scientific resources to invent and produce weapons and much more. Most muslim nations lack that.


Muslims are sadly in conflict with many non muslims. With Buddhists, with christians, with hindus, with jews. The reasons are both political and religious.


Do you condemn the Muslim acts of attacking, killing people and conquering lands? Because many here take them as their heroes.


With respect, your post indicates that you have issues with Muslims. That is something for you to resolve.

My post was about the inability of Muslims to unite, to form a Muslim Army - along the lines of NATO - resulting in Muslim suffering.

The Zionist entity is perpetrating human rights abuses and war crimes against Palestinians - this is widely acknowledged by many non-Zionist Jews, amongst others - your unwillingness to accept this fact is very revealing.
 
Yet many Pakistanis consider the Hamas and Kashmiri militants as "freedom fighters" while militants from the above groups as "terrorists". So let's agree it all depends on which side of the line you stand.


Poorly-armed 'freedom fighters' cannot be compared to nuclear/heavily-armed nation states, that deploy their troops in territories they militarily occupy. If India and Israel complied with and implemented UN resolutions, uprisings in Kashmir and the Palestinian Occupied Territories would not have occurred.

India has 600,00 troops in Kashmir - in fact, no-one knows the true number because the Indian government refuses to release relevant data. Kashmir and the Occupied Territories are heavily militarized zones, that tells us all we need to know about the aggressive nature of India's and Israel's policies towards Kashmiris and Palestinians.
 
Poorly-armed 'freedom fighters' cannot be compared to nuclear/heavily-armed nation states, that deploy their troops in territories they militarily occupy. If India and Israel complied with and implemented UN resolutions, uprisings in Kashmir and the Palestinian Occupied Territories would not have occurred.

India has 600,00 troops in Kashmir - in fact, no-one knows the true number because the Indian government refuses to release relevant data. Kashmir and the Occupied Territories are heavily militarized zones, that tells us all we need to know about the aggressive nature of India's and Israel's policies towards Kashmiris and Palestinians.

You have misunderstood my post. I was not comparing nation states and their armies with the Hamas, but other insurgent groups from different regions of the world like the PKK, LTTE, etc., with the Hamas and the insurgent groups of Kashmir.

P.S.: I don't agree with what's happening in Kashmir and I'm strongly against human rights violations, but the Indian policy towards Kashmiris is not comparable to Israel's policy towards Palestine. For starters, Israel doesn't consider the Palestinians as their own citizens and they're laying siege to Gaza but blockading them of essential rights and services. They have been actively occupying and settling Israelis in Palestinian lands where the demographics between Israelis and Palestinians have been completely reversed since 1940s. And by occupying, I don't mean having soldiers on ground which Indian army has plenty of in Kashmir, but actively settling Jews in Palestinian lands after evicting them from their homes to reverse the demographics of the area.

In the case of Kashmir, India has been controlling the valley since 1947 but the muslim population of the valley still remains more than 96%. If anything, the hindu population in the valley has decreased with the exodus of the Kashmiri Pandits. The Kashmiris are recognised as Indian citizens by India, it's just that the majority of Kashmiris don't want to be recognised as such. Also I don't think India ever rained missiles and rockets on the Kashmiri civilian population, never mind hundreds of them that happen in Israel and Palestine.
 
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Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi contacted Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al-Saud on Friday to express "Pakistan's serious concerns" on the "grave situation" in Palestine, according to a statement from the Foreign Office (FO).

"FM Qureshi expressed Pakistan’s serious concerns on the storming of the Al Aqsa Mosque and grave human rights violations.

"He condemned the continued attacks by the Israeli Defence Forces against the Palestinians, in particular innocent civilians and children, adding that the Israeli acts defied all norms of humanity and international law," said the statement.

It added that Qureshi also recalled the Pakistan-Saudi Arabia joint statement issued during PM Imran Khan's recent visit to the country, recalling that the statement included the shared perspective of the two countries on the Palestinian issue.

"The foreign minister reaffirmed Pakistan’s full support for the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, especially their right to self-determination and establishment of their independent state with pre-1967 borders and East Jerusalem as its capital, in accordance with the Arab Peace Initiative and relevant UN resolutions."

The Saudi foreign minister, in turn, also expressed his reservations on the "serious developments in Palestine" and briefed FM Qureshi on the initiatives being taken to address the situation.

Qureshi further welcomed Saudi Arabia's initiative to convene an emergency meeting of the Organi*sation of Islamic Cooperation's (OIC) executive committee at the foreign ministers' level on May 16 (Sunday) and assured his Saudi counterpart of "Pakistan’s unequivocal support for the just cause of Palestine".

"Expressing gratitude for the warm Saudi hospitality during the prime minister’s recently concluded visit, FM Qureshi apprised his counterpart of the post-visit telephone call between Prime Minister Imran Khan and the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques His Majesty King Salman bin Abdul Aziz, during which the two leaders also conferred on the serious situation in Palestine and the need for urgent steps to address it.

"The two foreign ministers agreed to continue close consultations and coordination on the evolving situation in Palestine," said the statement.

Qureshi had said on Wednesday that Pakistan was concerned about the recent violence in Palestine and that Muslims countries needed to unite in order to raise awareness about the issue.

"We can raise our voices individually [but] the issue will be noted when all 57 OIC members voice their support. A lone Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia can't do anything," he had said.

Palestinians flee amid Israeli attacks on Gaza
Israeli forces stormed the Al-Aqsa mosque on the 27th of Ramazan earlier this month after Palestinians' resistance to forced evictions from the East Jerusalem neighnourhood of Sheikh Jarrah.

In response to tear gas and shelling at Islam's third holiest site on Laylatul Qadr, rockets were fired at Israel by Hamas from Gaza, to which Israel responded by a barrage of air strikes on Monday, which have intensified in six days since then.

Around 120 Palestinians, including dozens of children and women, have been killed by Israeli forces in the past week with several neighbourhoods and apartment buildings destroyed.

On Friday, Palestinians grabbed their children and belongings and fled neighbourhoods on the outskirts of Gaza City as Israel unleashed a heavy barrage of artillery fire and airstrikes, killing a family of six in their home. Israel said it was clearing a network of militant tunnels ahead of a possible ground invasion.

Israel has massed troops along the border and called up 9,000 reservists as fighting intensifies with Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip. The Israeli military has launched more than 600 airstrikes, toppling at least three high-rise apartment buildings, and has shelled some areas with tanks stationed near the frontier.

The Gaza Health Ministry said the toll from the fighting has risen to 119 killed, including 31 children and 19 women, with 830 wounded. Palestinians living outside Gaza City, near the northern and eastern frontiers with Israel, fled the intense artillery bombardment on Friday. Families arrived at the UN-run schools in the city in pick-up trucks, on donkeys and by foot, hauling pillows and pans, blankets and bread.

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Palestine appreciates Pakistan’s principled, steadfast, and unflinching support


Palestine on Friday expressed deep appreciation for Pakistan’s principled, steadfast and unflinching support to Palestine, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement.

The statement came during a telephonic conversation between Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi and his Palestinian counterpart Dr Riyad Al Maliki, the statement said.

Dr Maliki appreciated Prime Minister Imran Khan’s clear and unambiguous position on the recent crisis and thanked Pakistan for the consistent diplomatic support received to Palestine at regional and international fora.

FM Qureshi strongly condemned Israeli forces’ attacks on Al-Aqsa Mosque and continued airstrikes on Gaza that have so far killed at least 122 innocent civilians, including children.

The foreign minister reiterated Pakistan’s unequivocal support for the rights of Palestinian people and their just struggle.

He briefed Dr Maliki on Pakistan’s efforts to sensitise the international community on the serious situation and the violations of human rights and international law.

Recalling the recent telephonic call between PM Imran Khan and the Palestinian President, the foreign minister reassured Dr Maliki of Pakistan’s steadfast support to Palestinian people during these testing times.

FM Qureshi also contacted Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, today, to discuss the grave situation in Palestine.

He expressed Pakistan’s serious concerns on the storming of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and grave human rights violations. He condemned the continued attacks by the Israeli Defence Forces against the Palestinians.

"Israeli acts defied all norms of humanity and international law," he said.

FM Qureshi recalled the Pakistan-Saudi Arabia Joint Statement issued during the recent visit of the prime minister to the Kingdom, on 8 May 2021, which, inter alia, included the two countries’ shared perspectives on the Palestinian issue.

The foreign minister reaffirmed Pakistan’s full support for the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, especially their right to self-determination and establishment of their independent state with pre-1967 borders and East Jerusalem as its capital, in accordance with the Arab Peace Initiative and relevant UN resolutions.

The Saudi foreign minister expressed concerns at the serious developments in Palestine and briefed FM Qureshi regarding the initiatives being taken to address the situation.

FM Qureshi welcomed the initiative of Saudi Arabia to convene an Emergency Meeting of the OIC’s Executive Committee at the Foreign Ministers level on 16 May 2021.

Expressing gratitude for the warm Saudi hospitality during the prime minister’s recently concluded visit, Foreign Minister Qureshi apprised his counterpart of the post-visit telephone call between Prime Minister Imran Khan and the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques His Majesty King Salman bin Abdul Aziz, during which the two leaders also conferred on the serious situation in Palestine and the need for urgent steps to address it.

The two Foreign Ministers agreed to continue close consultations and coordination on the evolving situation in Palestine.

Moreover, FM Qureshi also received a call from Afghan Foreign Minister Hanif Atmar during which both sides exchanged greetings on the auspicious occasion of Eid-ul-Fitr.

FM Qureshi conveyed wishes for a happy and joyous Eid for the brotherly people of Afghanistan.

The foreign minister underlined that Pakistan welcomed the announcement of the three-day Eid ceasefire by the Afghan parties recently and emphasised that efforts should continue for a permanent ceasefire.

FM Qureshi reaffirmed Pakistan’s support for the Afghan peace process and underscored that the intra-Afghan negotiations provide a historic opportunity to achieve an inclusive, broad-based, and comprehensive political settlement in Afghanistan for ending the 40-years long conflict.

The two foreign ministers also exchanged views about the current situation in Palestine and Masjid Al-Aqsa.

FM Qureshi condemned the indiscriminate use of force and attacks by Israeli forces in Al-Aqsa and Gaza, called for the protection of civilians, and underscored the need for the international community to take urgent steps to address the grave situation in the occupied territories.

The two foreign ministers agreed to remain in contact on the Palestine issue. They also agreed to maintain high-level bilateral exchanges and work together for the further consolidation of Pakistan-Afghanistan relations.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/350214-palestine-appreciates-pakistans-principled-steadfast-and-unflinching-support
 
Thousands have people have gathered on the streets of central London to protest in solidarity with Palestinians amid the ongoing conflict with Israel.

"Immediate action" is needed by the UK government, organisers say, to help end the "brutal" violence against the people of Palestine.

By midday on Saturday, thousands of people had begun marching through Hyde Park in central London, chanting "free, free Palestine" and holding banners, heading towards the Israeli embassy.

Labour MPs Zarah Sultana and Diane Abbott are expected to give speeches, as is former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.

It comes after thousands of Palestinians were forced to flee their homes after days of sustained attacks.

Since Monday evening, Hamas, a Palestinian militant group, has fired hundreds of rockets towards Israel, which responded by attacking the Gaza Strip with tanks and air strikes.

In Gaza, at least 126 people have died, including 31 children and 20 women, while in Israel, seven people have been killed, including a six-year-old boy and a soldier.

Saturday's demonstration in London was organised by Palestine Solidarity Campaign, Friends of Al-Aqsa, Palestinian Forum in Britain, Stop The War Coalition, Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament and the Muslim Association of Britain.

A spokesperson for the organisers said: "It is vital that the UK government takes immediate action.

"It must stop allowing Israel's brutal violence against and oppression of the Palestinian people to go unpunished.

"The bombardment of Gaza which is killing civilians including children is a war crime.

"The UK Government is complicit in these acts as long as it continues to offer Israel military, diplomatic and financial support."

SKY
 
Protest in Manchester

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With respect Hon SG this is not a conflict but a massacre by an Occupation Power & UN needs to enforce its responsibility to protect the Palestinian people against Israel's state terrorism. Remember Ch VII of UN Charter! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GazaUnderAttack?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GazaUnderAttack</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PalestineBleeding?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PalestineBleeding</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IStandWithPalestine?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IStandWithPalestine</a> <a href="https://t.co/PgIrSZ1XrG">https://t.co/PgIrSZ1XrG</a></p>— Shireen Mazari (@ShireenMazari1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShireenMazari1/status/1393408828918620160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Brave child. All Palestinians are brave, may the Almighty end their suffering.
 
An estimated 100,000 people marched through london today in support of palestinians
 
If you spend too much time here you miss out on the other side of this.

Child soldiers and women used as suicide bombers

Terrorist Attacks in market places and crowded areas

An agenda based on a religious template (mostly a violent interpretation) than actual societal/equal rights.

No real worthwhile or significant contributions to art,culture, economy except for creating religious based violence and nuisance.

Living on handouts and charity.

You are a sad and pathetic individual.
 
Brave child. All Palestinians are brave, may the Almighty end their suffering.

Not a word from Ozil on the actions of his war criminal friend Erdogan and the way he has butchered the Kurds.

These days, Ozil would struggle in the third division. He has been as rubbish at Fenerbahce as he was in his last 2 years at Arsenal.

He has become a pseudo-humanitarian activist on social media to remain relevant among football fans.
 
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Sunday condemned Israel's massacre in Gaza in strong words, urging the international community to take steps to stop the genocide in Palestine immediately.

The foreign minister was addressing an emergency meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) where he lambasted Israel for its tyrannical measures, which include bombing Gaza and killing scores of innocent children.

"Israel is violating human rights laws in Gaza," slammed the foreign minister. "The attack on the Palestinians is a violation of international law as well."

Blaming the Israeli Army for killing unarmed Palestinians, the minister said it was up to the international community to take concrete measures to stop the bloodbath in Palestine.

"Pakistan condemns Israel's aggression in strong words," he said. "Israel's aggression in Gaza should stop immediately."

The foreign minister also thanked the OIC for arranging an emergency meeting to condemn Israeli atrocities in the region.

Israel continues to pummel Gaza as death toll surges to over 140

Israel continued with its deadly bombing on Sunday, as the death toll of Palestinians in Gaza surged past 140, with more than 30 children and scores of other women killed in the bombings as well.

A day earlier, 10 members of a single extended family were killed in an Israeli air strike early Saturday on the western Gaza Strip, medics in the Palestinian enclave said.

The eight children and two women were killed when a three-storey building in Shati refugee camp collapsed following an Israeli strike, medical sources said.

Israeli warplanes had struck multiple targets in Gaza since aerial strikes began on Monday.

Speaking outside Shifa hospital in Gaza City, the father of four of the children, Muhammad al-Hadidi, had said he wanted "the unjust world to see these crimes".

"They were safe in their homes, they did not carry weapons, they did not fire rockets," he had said of his children, who were killed "wearing their clothes for Eid-ul-Fitr", the holiday marking the end of Ramadan.

Both Hadidi and Mohammad Abu Hattab, his brother-in-law and host, were away from Hattab's home when it collapsed. The Abu Hattabs' five-month-old baby also survived.
 
Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Chief Siraj ul Haq on Sunday announced nationwide protests against Israel's oppression in Gaza on Friday, May 21, Jang reported.

As per details, Haq plans to lead protests in Islamabad against the massacre in Gaza being conducted by the Israeli Army, on May 21.

The JI chief, in a statement, called on the nation to take part in the protest for the rights of Palestinians, saying that human tragedies are taking place on a daily basis in the occupied land of Palestine.

Haq said the United Nations and American human rights activists are deaf and dumb, calling upon the Muslim Ummah to stand with the Palestinians during their hour of need.

He stressed that Muslim rulers must go beyond statements and tweets, urging Muslim countries to formulate a plan of action to protect the lives, property, and honour of the citizens of Gaza.

Pakistan condemns Israel's massacre in Gaza
Pakistan on Sunday condemned Israel's massacre in Gaza in strong words, urging the international community to take steps to stop the genocide in Palestine immediately.

Read more: Gaza massacre: Pakistan demands immediate end to Israeli tyranny in OIC meeting

The foreign minister was addressing an emergency meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) where he lambasted Israel for its tyrannical measures, which include bombing Gaza and killing scores of innocent children.

"Israel is violating human rights laws in Gaza," slammed the foreign minister. "The attack on the Palestinians is a violation of international law as well."

Israel continues to pummel Gaza as death toll surges to over 140
Israel continued with its deadly bombing on Sunday, as the death toll of Palestinians in Gaza surged past 140, with more than 30 children and scores of other women killed in the bombings as well.

A day earlier, 10 members of a single extended family were killed in an Israeli airstrike early Saturday on the western Gaza Strip, medics in the Palestinian enclave said.

The eight children and two women were killed when a three-story building in Shati refugee camp collapsed following an Israeli strike, medical sources said.

Israeli warplanes had struck multiple targets in Gaza since aerial strikes began on Monday.

Speaking outside Shifa hospital in Gaza City, the father of four of the children, Muhammad al-Hadidi, had said he wanted "the unjust world to see these crimes".

GEO
 
Not a word from Ozil on the actions of his war criminal friend Erdogan and the way he has butchered the Kurds.

These days, Ozil would struggle in the third division. He has been as rubbish at Fenerbahce as he was in his last 2 years at Arsenal.

He has become a pseudo-humanitarian activist on social media to remain relevant among football fans.

He has annoyed hostile non-Muslims with his words, and that is testament to his effect. Good on him.
 
Not a word from Ozil on the actions of his war criminal friend Erdogan and the way he has butchered the Kurds.

These days, Ozil would struggle in the third division. He has been as rubbish at Fenerbahce as he was in his last 2 years at Arsenal.

He has become a pseudo-humanitarian activist on social media to remain relevant among football fans.

And whats your excuse? Hes free to defend whatever he likes At least he doesnt defend xenophobic zionist islamophobic people.
 
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And whats your excuse? Hes free to defend whatever he likes At least he doesnt defend xenophobic zionist islamophobic people.

Excuse for what?

I have said many times I don’t care about Palestine or Israel, but I do not let my religious beliefs from preventing me from recognizing Israel’s contribution to the world.

Islamophobia is a consequence of the collective failure of the Muslim world. The Muslims have been the least successful nation in the world over the past century. It is the real reason for the rise of Islamophobia.

Playing the victim card will not change the ground realities and will not put an end to Islamophobia. Only introspection and improving the image and status of Muslim countries will put an end to Islamophobia.

Hatred for Muslims will evolve into respect and admiration for Muslims when the Muslims have achieved a position of respect and admiration.
 
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I think migration is the best solution. There are already a lot of Palestinians in the West and even other Arab countries so it should not be a problem. Going for war would set the world back by another 10 years and we can’t afford it anymore.

Now hypothetically speaking, even if they wage a war and Palestinians win the war and set Palestine free (highly unlikely to happen) then what would happen next? What about the economic effects of the war and it’s not like Palestinians who are living outside Palestine ( a much better life than Palestine) would come back and Palestine would suddenly become a superpower or economic powerhouse.
 
A league of Muslim nations on Sunday demanded that Israel halt attacks killing Palestinian civilians amid heavy fighting between it and Hamas in the Gaza Strip, even as fissures between countries over their recognition of Israel emerged.

A statement by the 57-nation Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) hewed closely to previous ones issued by the Saudi-based group, including backing the decades-old call for Palestinians to have their own nation with East Jerusalem as its capital.

It called for an immediate halt to what it described as Israel’s barbaric attacks on Gaza and blamed “systematic crimes” against the Palestinians for hostilities now in their seventh day. The OIC statement came after a virtual meeting in which Saudi Arabia condemned the violation of the sanctity of Muslim holy sites and evictions of Palestinians from their homes in East Jerusalem.

Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud opened the OIC meeting by urging the global community to end the escalation in violence and revive peace negotiations based on a two-state solution.

The 57-member body accused the United Nations Security Council of inertia. Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei issued a separate statement on Sunday, tweeted by Malaysia's premier, calling for an emergency UN General Assembly meeting.

Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates called for a ceasefire. "De-escalation and the highest degree of restraint are important to avoid dragging the region to new levels of instability," said UAE Minister of State for International Cooperation Reem al-Hashimy.

However, recent normalisation deals between Israel and some nations in the group — as well as their own concerns about Hamas — saw diplomats at points instead criticise each other.

“The massacre of Palestinian children today follows the purported normalisation,” Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif said. “This criminal and genocidal regime has once again proven that friendly gestures only aggravate its atrocities.”

The past week has seen some of the worst violence across Israel and the Palestinian territory since the 2014 war in Gaza, with militants launching missiles and Israel pounding the blockaded coastal strip home to two million people with heavy fire. At least 188 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza with 1,230 people wounded. Eight people in Israel have been killed.

The OIC statement called on Israel to respect Muslims’ access to Al Aqsa Mosque, the third-holiest site in Islam, as well as stop settlers from forcibly evicting Palestinian families from their homes.

“The plight of the Palestinian people is the bleeding wound of the Islamic world today,” Afghan Foreign Minister Mohammad Haneef Atmar said.

But the video conference meeting saw some delegates instead turn their fire toward countries like Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates, Muslim nations which reached normalisation deals last year to recognise Israel. While Egypt and Jordan earlier reached peace deals, supporters of the Palestinians criticised the new countries for recognising Israel before the formation of an independent Palestinian state.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu joined Zarif in criticising the normalisation, though Israel maintains diplomatic ties with Ankara.

“There are a few who have lost their moral compass and voiced support for Israel,” he said. “If there are half-hearted statements within our own family, how could we criticise others? Who will take our words seriously?”

FM Cavusoglu also called for an international protection mechanism for Palestinian civilians and told the OIC that Israel should be held accountable for war crimes and that the International Criminal Court could play a role.

Zarif accused Israel of “genocide and crimes against humanity”.

“Make no mistake: Israel only understand the language of resistance and the people of Palestine are fully entitled to their right to defend themselves,” Zarif said.

Hamas, which seized power in Gaza in 2007, didn’t take part in the meeting, which came before consultations at the United Nations over the crisis.

Across the Arabian Peninsula, reactions to the fighting similarly have been mixed. In Qatar, home to the Al Jazeera satellite network, hundreds turned out late on Saturday night to listen to a speech by Hamas’ top leader Ismail Haniyeh. Kuwait’s parliament speaker reportedly spoke with Haniyeh on Saturday, as did Qatar’s foreign minister.

Meanwhile, in Bahrain and the UAE, government-linked media hasn’t been covering the current flare-up of violence nonstop like other networks in the region.

There are murmurs of dissent though. In Bahrain, civil society groups signed a letter urging the kingdom to expel the Israeli ambassador. In the UAE, where political parties and protests are illegal, Palestinians have expressed their anger quietly, worried about losing their residency permit. Some Emiratis have also expressed concerns.

“The region’s only democracy,” tweeted the Emirati writer and political analyst Sultan Sooud Al Qassemi in writing about Israel’s strike on a Gaza building that housed the offices of The Associated Press and Al Jazeera.

DAWN
 
Not a word from Ozil on the actions of his war criminal friend Erdogan and the way he has butchered the Kurds.

These days, Ozil would struggle in the third division. He has been as rubbish at Fenerbahce as he was in his last 2 years at Arsenal.

He has become a pseudo-humanitarian activist on social media to remain relevant among football fans.

Its not Ozil, its a child in Palestine with Ozil's footie shirt. :genius

Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Put yourself in their shoes. I ask again, If im more powerful, come to your house, kick you & your family out, would you accept might is right? Because this would be cowardly, the Palestinians are anything but.
 
Its not Ozil, its a child in Palestine with Ozil's footie shirt. :genius

Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Put yourself in their shoes. I ask again, If im more powerful, come to your house, kick you & your family out, would you accept might is right? Because this would be cowardly, the Palestinians are anything but.

You are a very emotional guy. Online warrior as put in other words.

What do you think of the Saudi Arabian led invasion of Yemen which has created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world?

What do you think about the fact Israel being a small country surrounded by huge Muslim majority countries is able to dominate them and kick them non-stop?

What do you think regarding Saudi Arabians being in bed with Israel?
 
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You are a very emotional guy. Online warrior as put in other words.

What do you think of the Saudi Arabian led invasion of Yemen which has created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world?

What do you think about the fact Israel being a small country surrounded by huge Muslim majority countries is able to dominate them and kick them non-stop?

Emotions are a sign of humanity when it comes to standing up for the oppressed. I feel sorry for you not having any.

Stick to the topic.

The size of Israel doesnt give them any right to murder, steal, torture, burn or jail innocent people. What a strange thing to suggest.
 
Emotions are a sign of humanity when it comes to standing up for the oppressed. I feel sorry for you not having any.

Stick to the topic.

The size of Israel doesnt give them any right to murder, steal, torture, burn or jail innocent people. What a strange thing to suggest.

Yes, we humans are emotional beings but one must think with logic too. You didn’t answer a single question. These questions are related to the topic. I will ask again.

What do you think about the Saudi led invasion of Yemen which has created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world?

Why does a small tiny country like Israel with a mere population of 10 million I guess can take on the Muslim ummah? Its a tiny country surrounded by huge Muslim countries. Taking them down shouldn’t be so hard.

Why is Saudi Arabia and few other Muslim countries in bed with Israel?
 
Yes, we humans are emotional beings but one must think with logic too. You didn’t answer a single question. These questions are related to the topic. I will ask again.

What do you think about the Saudi led invasion of Yemen which has created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world?

Why does a small tiny country like Israel with a mere population of 10 million I guess can take on the Muslim ummah? Its a tiny country surrounded by huge Muslim countries. Taking them down shouldn’t be so hard.

Why is Saudi Arabia and few other Muslim countries in bed with Israel?

Not willing to post off topic only to be deleted.

Diverting is not debating.

Israel was created by the British, supported by Nato & given $4 billion in US aid. On their own they would have ran off a long time ago. Its a temporary outpost nothing more.

Educate yourself on history, Saudis were installed by the Brits, puppets.
 
Emotions are a sign of humanity when it comes to standing up for the oppressed. I feel sorry for you not having any.

Stick to the topic.

The size of Israel doesnt give them any right to murder, steal, torture, burn or jail innocent people. What a strange thing to suggest.

world doesn't run on emotions. it runs on running after own interest.

life isn't bed of roses. one should be realistic even if he feels he has recived the short end of the stick.
 
Its not Ozil, its a child in Palestine with Ozil's footie shirt. :genius

Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

Put yourself in their shoes. I ask again, If im more powerful, come to your house, kick you & your family out, would you accept might is right? Because this would be cowardly, the Palestinians are anything but.

If we live in a state of lawlessness where there is no authority to enforce law, I would be a fool to try and fight you when I know that you are much stronger than I am. Fighting you would simply bring more harm to me and my family.

I would try and come to an arrangement with you whilst accepting your dominance. You call it cowardice but I call it damage limitation and fighting for survival.

As I educated you the other day, international law is not enforceable. The Palestinians will continue to see their youth die and their civilians and children brutalized if they continue to fight a war that they cannot win.

Fighting when you have no chance of winning and have no resources is not bravery. It is stupidity of the highest order.

The people of Palestine should not be encouraged by the statements of armchair supporters like yourself who do not have the courage to leave their homes and join them in this war.

After decades and decades of misery, it is time for Palestinians to choose between preserving the future of their children by showing diplomacy and intelligence or to continue to get butchered like they have for the past 70 years.
 
If we live in a state of lawlessness where there is no authority to enforce law, I would be a fool to try and fight you when I know that you are much stronger than I am. Fighting you would simply bring more harm to me and my family.

I would try and come to an arrangement with you whilst accepting your dominance. You call it cowardice but I call it damage limitation and fighting for survival.

As I educated you the other day, international law is not enforceable. The Palestinians will continue to see their youth die and their civilians and children brutalized if they continue to fight a war that they cannot win.

Fighting when you have no chance of winning and have no resources is not bravery. It is stupidity of the highest order.

The people of Palestine should not be encouraged by the statements of armchair supporters like yourself who do not have the courage to leave their homes and join them in this war.

After decades and decades of misery, it is time for Palestinians to choose between preserving the future of their children by showing diplomacy and intelligence or to continue to get butchered like they have for the past 70 years.

Just say might is right.

It may be foolish to you but imo its cowardly to just accept oppression. This is the difference between you and the Palestinians, which why they are great human beings. Im sure if you ran off with your tail between your legs, you would live a great life. Thanks for confirming who you are.
 
Not willing to post off topic only to be deleted.

Diverting is not debating.

Israel was created by the British, supported by Nato & given $4 billion in US aid. On their own they would have ran off a long time ago. Its a temporary outpost nothing more.

Educate yourself on history, Saudis were installed by the Brits, puppets.
Because your Muslim Ummah’s leadership is corrupt. They are corrupt to the deepest levels of whatever ground you can think off. That’s why powerful people/nations buy them and use them as puppets to further their own interest. The Ummah’s leadership can’t touch a feather a Israel of because they have sold themselves to the highest bidder.

If it’s a temporary outpost then what’s stopping huge Muslim countries to take down a tiny Israel? It’s a golden opportunity in my view. It will be 56 Muslim countries vs 1 tiny Israel.

I really want to know your stance and many other online warriors of the Saudi led invasion of Yemen. The Saudis have created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. Why not a single word or statement regarding the Yemeni war?
 
Just say might is right.

It may be foolish to you but imo its cowardly to just accept oppression. This is the difference between you and the Palestinians, which why they are great human beings. Im sure if you ran off with your tail between your legs, you would live a great life. Thanks for confirming who you are.

Might is right when there is no one to enforce law, it is human nature.

You can call the Palestinians great human beings but they will achieve nothing with this greatness if they do not realize that their tactics and resistance will never produce anything positive.

The only way out for Palestine, and the only way they can preserve their future, is to realize that they will never overpower the most intelligent nation in the world with one of the most advanced armies with a bunch of untrained civilians with no weapons.

Moreover, the Muslim countries including Pakistan do not have the courage to fight Israel. Verbal criticism and chest-thumping on social media will not hurt Israel.
 
Might is right when there is no one to enforce law, it is human nature.

You can call the Palestinians great human beings but they will achieve nothing with this greatness if they do not realize that their tactics and resistance will never produce anything positive.

The only way out for Palestine, and the only way they can preserve their future, is to realize that they will never overpower the most intelligent nation in the world with one of the most advanced armies with a bunch of untrained civilians with no weapons.

Moreover, the Muslim countries including Pakistan do not have the courage to fight Israel. Verbal criticism and chest-thumping on social media will not hurt Israel.

Spin it like Anil Kumble(no spin).

Palestians are great humans, they would rather die like this than live like cowards. You are welcome to be who you are but dont tell others they should be like you.

No surprise you did support India bombing Pakistan. You have no credibility at all.
 
Three options:
1. Immigrate
2. Migrate
3. Move to another country

Those who think they should continue resisting should quit their lives and move to Palestine front line with their relatives and fight against a superpower and see how it feels.

Those who think Palestine should accept Israel and shout against Hammas, nope this aint happening in a million years!

The only way I can see the bloodshed stopping is for them to move somewhere else. For this to happen some of the other countries will have to step in and share responsibility and give Palestinians the residence and visas.
 
I think the best option would be to stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no option but to stop the attacks if there were no missiles being fired at them. Whilst Hamas keep firing missiles then Israel will keep destroying the buildings that they are fired from.

I'm not suggesting anything other than stop firing missiles.
 
I think the best option would be to stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no option but to stop the attacks if there were no missiles being fired at them. Whilst Hamas keep firing missiles then Israel will keep destroying the buildings that they are fired from.

I'm not suggesting anything other than stop firing missiles.

Then they would just get away with displacing muslims in West Bank, ofcourse the pr would completely turn against them, but its not like anyone is stopping Chinas oppression of muslims, what happened in Burma was not stopped, its not even an agenda against muslims, because west is not even saving Christians in Pakistan.

Israel is not even interested in Gaza, what they want is the west bank.
 
For the sake of the Palestinians they should try migrating to nearby lands like Egypt or Jordan. They should try engaging other countries for migration because fact is things are going to get only worse with time. Ofcourse it's easier said than done to just leave your home but what is the other option for them?
 
Three options:
1. Immigrate
2. Migrate
3. Move to another country

Those who think they should continue resisting should quit their lives and move to Palestine front line with their relatives and fight against a superpower and see how it feels.

Those who think Palestine should accept Israel and shout against Hammas, nope this aint happening in a million years!

The only way I can see the bloodshed stopping is for them to move somewhere else. For this to happen some of the other countries will have to step in and share responsibility and give Palestinians the residence and visas.

Move/immigrate/migrate, where? (Not a rhetorical question).

We're talking about realistic options here not kumbaaya-join-hands-for-humanity-fantasy.

Palestinians are on their own. Only Pakistan and Turkey are talking for them, zero action tho (so far). Rest of Arab/Muslim world either don't care or have their own wars/problems going on since forever.

West (freedom and democracy™) brigade are Israel allies to begin with.

This is the reality.

They are suffering a lot of casualties and most probably will keep on... their only valid action is the continuous grind and resistance in whichever manner they possibly can.
 
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Move/immigrate/migrate, where? (Not a rhetorical question).

We're talking about realistic options here not kumbaaya-join-hands-for-humanity-fantasy.

Palestinians are on their own. Only Pakistan and Turkey are talking for them, zero action tho (so far). Rest of Arab/Muslim world either don't care or have their own wars/problems going on since forever.

West (freedom and democracy™) brigade are Israel allies to begin with.

This is the reality.

They are suffering a lot of casualties and most probably will keep on... their only valid action is the continuous grind and resistance in whichever manner they possibly can.

tbh, move/ immigrate/ migrate is already happening in other places of unrest in middle east.
 
Might is right when there is no one to enforce law, it is human nature.

You can call the Palestinians great human beings but they will achieve nothing with this greatness if they do not realize that their tactics and resistance will never produce anything positive.

The only way out for Palestine, and the only way they can preserve their future, is to realize that they will never overpower the most intelligent nation in the world with one of the most advanced armies with a bunch of untrained civilians with no weapons.

Moreover, the Muslim countries including Pakistan do not have the courage to fight Israel. Verbal criticism and chest-thumping on social media will not hurt Israel.

Diplomacy is not the same as submitting to an apartheid state taking your land and discriminating against you. They cannot sit idle as well.
 
I think the best option would be to stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no option but to stop the attacks if there were no missiles being fired at them. Whilst Hamas keep firing missiles then Israel will keep destroying the buildings that they are fired from.

I'm not suggesting anything other than stop firing missiles.

Expanding illegaly and disposession of the palestinians will continue even if a ceasefire takes place. There's no win scenario here for the Palestinians
 
Even if a 2 state solution is adopted (which I prefer) there will be an obvious discrimination when resources are to be shared. It's simply not enough that one recognises the other. Israel still hold the majority of resources even in the west bank.
The problem is atleast under Netanyahu Israel won't back down as in, they won't give the land back. In fact they're doing the opposite and expanding more.
 
I think the best option would be to stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no option but to stop the attacks if there were no missiles being fired at them. Whilst Hamas keep firing missiles then Israel will keep destroying the buildings that they are fired from.

I'm not suggesting anything other than stop firing missiles.

Best options would be israel to stop bombing and maiming kids and innocent civilians

Stop the daily incitement and apartheid of palestinians and the land grabbing Stay out of al aqsa compound where they have no legal jurisdiction

Finally Ship themselves out of the occupied territories and stop the illegal occupation
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Sunday urged the US to play role in addressing the worsening Palestine crisis and restore peace in the region.

The development came during a telephonic discussion between Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Sunday and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

The two leaders discussed bilateral relations and important regional developments particularly the deteriorating situation in Palestine.

FM Qureshi, who had earlier called for immediate steps to stop the ongoing aggression against the Palestinian people during a meeting of the Organisation of Muslim Countries, apprised Secretary Blinken of the Pakistani people’s deep concern and anguish on the worsening humanitarian situation in the Israeli Occupied Palestinian Territories.

GEO
 
Prime Minister Imran Khan today received a telephone call from Malaysia's former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, a statement issued by the Prime Minister's Office said Sunday.

Per the statement, the two leaders greeted each other on the auspicious occasion of Eid ul Fitr and exchanged views on the grave situation in Palestine.

They condemned the Israeli aggression and expressed solidarity with the innocent, defenceless Palestinians.

The Prime Minister strongly condemned the attacks on innocent worshippers in Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Israeli air strikes on Gaza.

The two leaders underscored the need for the international community to take urgent steps to halt the ongoing attacks, protect the civilians, and facilitate a just and lasting solution based on UN resolutions and two-state vision.
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Move/immigrate/migrate, where? (Not a rhetorical question).

We're talking about realistic options here not kumbaaya-join-hands-for-humanity-fantasy.

Palestinians are on their own. Only Pakistan and Turkey are talking for them, zero action tho (so far). Rest of Arab/Muslim world either don't care or have their own wars/problems going on since forever.

West (freedom and democracy™) brigade are Israel allies to begin with.

This is the reality.

They are suffering a lot of casualties and most probably will keep on... their only valid action is the continuous grind and resistance in whichever manner they possibly can.
Countries like Pakistan and Turkey should put money where their mouth is and start offering citizenship to Palestinians. But then who again would be willing to accept a nation who grew up in a war zone...

When it is not safe to live somewhere you move on. I know easier said than done, but I am so frustrated to see innocent souls dying in such numbers.
 
It’s quite a loaded question ...

One issue with any conflict is to refer to different groups as absolutes who have exactly the same wants and opinions...it’s as reductive as someone saying ‘English people’...

20% of Israel is Arabs...and their situation is very nuanced...it’s not unusual for someone to view themselves as both Israeli and Palestinian while being furious with say what happens in Gaza...Christian Arabs for example are wealthier on average than Jews...Druze Arabs tend to join the army more...Bedouins view themselves as Bedouins...but obviously within those subgroups there will lots of exceptions...some despise Israel’s politics but would prefer Israel to living in Palestine cos they are secular...you will have those who hate Israel, don’t believe it should exist and want a Palestinian state...

One concern in any conflict is who gets the keys if you have a new victor...do you prefer the devil you know?...obviously if you’re in Gaza the answer is simple...yes...if you’re in Haifa it isn’t ...as with anything there is no one size fits all solution...
 
I think the best option would be to stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no option but to stop the attacks if there were no missiles being fired at them. Whilst Hamas keep firing missiles then Israel will keep destroying the buildings that they are fired from.

I'm not suggesting anything other than stop firing missiles.

Assuming you're not trolling...


People like you are the reason why all the villains of different times have been getting on with their atrocities.

I understand your and Indians' hate for Muslims but facts matter.

Watch the video (if YouTube does not delete it) before getting red and typing further propaganda.
 
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Islamic countries should represent their people's voices regarding Palestine issue: Shahbaz

Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Shahbaz Sharif on Monday addressed the floor of the Lower House and spoke in detail about the ongoing situation in Palestine.

The PML-N president said he would not shed light on the government's tactics against the Opposition as the lawmakers had gathered today to voice their concerns against Israel's attacks on Palestine.

Innocent people were attacked in Al-Aqsa Mosque after which Israel's air force pummeled the Gaza strip and destroyed numerous homes, the Opposition leader said.

"Since 1948, the way that Israeli governments and their armed forces have attacked Palestinians is not hidden from anyone," he said.

In East Jerusalem, extremists had chanted "Death to Arabs" and the entire world witnessed the attacks on innocent Palestinians after that, he said.

He said that six to seven million Palestinians have been displaced from their homes because of Israeli aggression, adding that if a Muslim country had restored to such atrocities, then war would have been started against it.

"Today, international media is silent. If another country had killed so many innocent civilians, the whole world would have imposed sanctions on it," said Shahbaz.

Shahbaz further said that Islamic countries should represent people's emotions regarding the Palestine issue, adding that Muslim nations should unite and voice their concerns without wasting time.

He also suggested that Pakistan should observe "Youm-e-Quds" on Friday to show solidarity with the people of Palestine and said that Pakistan should send relief to Palestine through the Red Cross.

"The ruthless murder of Palestinians should stop immediately," Shahbaz said. "Otherwise, history will not forgive us if we do not raise our voices for the people of Palestine and Occupied Kashmir."

Shahbaz, however, praised the international human rights watch for terming Israel's atrocities against Palestinians as "apartheid" — a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa and South-West Africa (now Namibia) from 1948 until the early 1990s.

"A similar situation is prevalent in Indian Occupied Jammu and Kashmir," he said. "I was shocked to hear that the foreign minister [Shah Mahmood Qureshi] said Article 370 — the revocation of Kashmir's special status — was India's internal matter," he said.

The Opposition leader noted the statement "had caused a setback for Pakistan's cause for Kashmir."

https://www.geo.tv/latest/350521-is...e-peoples-emotions-on-palestine-issue-shahbaz
 
Faisal Edhi files visa application for Palestine to help war-torn country

Pakistani humanitarian Faisal Edhi has announced that he has submitted a visa request with the Palestinian embassy in Pakistan to fly to Palestine and help the country that has been under attack by the Israeli forces.

“We want to take part in the relief work in Palestine via the Edhi Foundation. Five people, including my son Saad Edhi [and myself], will be going to Palestine,” Faisal told Geo News on Monday. He said that he will be going to Palestine via Egypt, adding that he has applied for a visa for the country.

The son of renowned philanthropist Abdul Sattar Edhi and chairman of the Edhi Foundation said that representatives of his organisation met with the Palestinian envoy in Islamabad and were informed that there is an urgent need for medicines in the war-torn country.

Faisal said that his organisation will buy food and medicine from Egypt, adding that the foundation has set aside a budget of “Rs25-30 million” for the purpose.

“We do not want any support from the government as we will do everything with the help of people,” vowed Edhi. However, he added that the five people visiting the country will be in touch with the Pakistani embassy in Cairo.

Regarding the duration of his trip, Faisal said that the decision will be taken once the team reaches Palestine and assesses the situation there.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/350513-fa...cation-for-palestine-to-help-war-torn-country
 
Faisal Edhi files visa application for Palestine to help war-torn country

Pakistani humanitarian Faisal Edhi has announced that he has submitted a visa request with the Palestinian embassy in Pakistan to fly to Palestine and help the country that has been under attack by the Israeli forces.

“We want to take part in the relief work in Palestine via the Edhi Foundation. Five people, including my son Saad Edhi [and myself], will be going to Palestine,” Faisal told Geo News on Monday. He said that he will be going to Palestine via Egypt, adding that he has applied for a visa for the country.

The son of renowned philanthropist Abdul Sattar Edhi and chairman of the Edhi Foundation said that representatives of his organisation met with the Palestinian envoy in Islamabad and were informed that there is an urgent need for medicines in the war-torn country.

Faisal said that his organisation will buy food and medicine from Egypt, adding that the foundation has set aside a budget of “Rs25-30 million” for the purpose.

“We do not want any support from the government as we will do everything with the help of people,” vowed Edhi. However, he added that the five people visiting the country will be in touch with the Pakistani embassy in Cairo.

Regarding the duration of his trip, Faisal said that the decision will be taken once the team reaches Palestine and assesses the situation there.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/350513-fa...cation-for-palestine-to-help-war-torn-country

I fear for Faisal Edhi's safety. In a country like Pakistan, men like Edhis are rarely born. We need him in Pakistan so at least poor people have a chance to reach hospitals.

I hope his visa gets rejected.

Bloodthirsty israeli terrorists will murder him in cold blood.
 
Countries like Pakistan and Turkey should put money where their mouth is and start offering citizenship to Palestinians. But then who again would be willing to accept a nation who grew up in a war zone...

When it is not safe to live somewhere you move on. I know easier said than done, but I am so frustrated to see innocent souls dying in such numbers.

Palestinians dont want citizenship elsewhere neither should they leave their country They ll live and die on their forefathers lands

Israel wants them to up and leave Its not gonna happen

The struggle will continue No justice No peace
 
Palestinians sadly have no options left. Power & might is with the Israel & the west. Only USA can solve this matter. Let's be honest here, Israel wants whole of palestine exclusively for the jews. If they can, they will get rid of every arabs from the land of palestine. Israel is basically a jewish version of an Islamic State(Daesh) which can only be controlled through might.
 
Unfortunately I don't see realistic options that ends in a good outcome for our Palestinian brethren.

They will keep up resisting to the bitter end while slowly being grinded down by Israel as they eventually take over the entirety of West Bank as that is their end goal. Israel have no interest in Gaza as its to their advantage to keep it alive so as they can play the 'Hamas' card whenever they want (Israel has a hand in their creation). As it stands Palestinians will end up being refugees to other countries, killed/displaced or just swallowed up by Israel.

Western nations are not going to come to their aid, US is still alpha dog and the rest of the world fall in tow. China and Russia are pipe-dreams equivalent to how Muslims in the US see the president from the other party will be their saviour. UN only came to save Bosnians after they were mostly wiped out, paid lip service to the Rohingya flight until the military deposed their darling Aung and only displays 'concerns' about the Uighyurs due to their anti-Chinese intentions.

If it wasn't due to the sheer incompetency and corruption of the Arabic/Muslim world, Israel would have been held in check with what they are able to get away with but we are way past that point now. We should have had the clout, influence and strength to prevent this farce but we as a community failed and this is also extends to the Rohingyas, Kashmiris, Uighyurs and Yemenis. Its with absolute disgust I see the dramatic fall and state of these lands that are led by weak willed, corrupted men and puppets to foreign powers in the past 100 - 150 years (though this is a resultant to the decay of the Ottomans).
 
Gaza is beyond saving. I pray that the folks there just get out, if there is one thing as an Ummah we could do is help them get out . It's uninhabitable by all accounts and Akin to a pressurized laboratory for Israel to breed anger. If you see the death stats it is overwhelmingly Gaza. Water is not potable.

I think the Arabs that are already Israeli citizens (15-20%) and the Palestinians living under apartheid in West bank should stay. History has shown that, unless there is a genocide to wipe them out, their struggle will eventually succeed.
 
England should take in any refugees from Palestine, England created this mess so it would be a good fit if they take in all the refugees and allow them to resettle in England.
 
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