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One word: maulvi.
Anyone who actively promoted Aziza K and his brother and wrote shamelessly effusive praise for those two doesn't deserve a shred of respect or attention.
A liberal like hamid mir did same and most of the media was doing that not because of their love for aziz but in bughaz e musharraf the dictator
One thing i like about him is that he is optimistic always trying to give hope to his viewers while most others are selling 'nothing can be done and things will never change'
One of the three stooges of the khakis on TV.
Dr. Danish and Sabir Shakir.Who are the others?
A liberal like hamid mir did same and most of the media was doing that not because of their love for aziz but in bughaz e musharraf the dictator
One of the three stooges of the khakis on TV.
Nothing wrong with that as long as their political tilt aligns with yours which is why we don't hear from our supremly well informed public about Bol and ARY being 'paid' or 'lifafa' outlets the way we do about Geo or Dunya. Khaki propaganda outlets like 92, Bol and ARY are no better than Geo and N League or Capital TV and PPP, making their favored faction look like saints while having a go at all others.Nothing wrong with that almost everyone in media is working for some one and getting regular lifafas and inside stories from parties its pretty clear. Even some channels are working for different parties and also protecting powerful people like malik riaz. Only kashif abbasi looks like the one who try to stay neutral.
To add to my previous post, the only genuinely neutral media outlet in Pakistan is Dawn, both the newspaper and the TV channel. Everyone else has an angle. Kashif Abassi sounds reasonable but anyone who works for ARY or Bol is not to be trusted or taken seriously.
I disagree with Dawn, I have heard about their connections to Noon League and their newspaper only publishes anything anti-Nawaz when its obvious as daylight.
Dawn usually calls it right down the middle regardless of any connection their owners may have due to the editorial freedom their journalists have. Their editor is related to the previous DG ISPR and yet they were the o ly media outlet that was at least attempting to hold the army accountable for their misdeeds the way the rest of the media does to the politicos.
They usually run several articles a day where they rip into N league but being a proper old school professionally run newspaper, they do so in a dignified, understated manner so I can see how it could be considered "not anti N league enough" when contrasted with their more vitriolic counterparts who go after people for the sake of it instead of arguing on the issues. It's the same with the TV channel where the ZHK guys in particular dedicate at least one of their three segments every day to N league's shenanigans and despite not screaming at the top of their lungs, they do a better job of making N league look like the corrupt, incompetent buffoons that they are than Mubahar Lucman screaming at the top of his lungs ever could.
One word: maulvi.
Anyone who actively promoted Aziza K and his brother and wrote shamelessly effusive praise for those two doesn't deserve a shred of respect or attention.
I forgot to add, I only read Dawn noawadays as it has a very good ad-free app. Hence its my observation. As for army, entirely agree. However army provides a good check-balance to Nawaz/PPP. A system with no army would leave these 'democratic' buffoons drunk on power. When we have the correct leaders in place in the civilian gov then we can perhaps challenge the army. I know you don't agree so agree to disagree.
To add to my previous post, the only genuinely neutral media outlet in Pakistan is Dawn, both the newspaper and the TV channel. Everyone else has an angle. Kashif Abassi sounds reasonable but anyone who works for ARY or Bol is not to be trusted or taken seriously.
Any Idea about Rauf Klasra?
It's become a bit of a fad to label media outlets pro PML/PPP(depending on who's in power though you'll never see someone being labelled pro PTI or army with such disdain), paid Indian agents, anti Pakistan and other such things because instead of debating them on the issues, you can just shut them down with this Pakistani version of Godwin's Law. I can understand Express Tribune being labelled pro PML but as a long time Dawn reader, I fail to see the pro PML bias especially when they can't go a few hours without masterfully dismantling PML on one issue or the other. The editorial freedom is still there and you can see it compared to other media outlets. I can understand why PTI supporters would labelling them pro PML (PTI supporters would label a cheese sandwich pro PML) since it goes after their party regularly but labelling them PML stooges is the easy way out because instead of confronting them on their content your basically taking the tried and tested "faaarin khanspiracy/Noora/paid agent" way out.
All i said is quality of dawn is coming down and it's not like before as a follower i can easily notice it just like others but still it's far better than Jang/Tribune/Geo/ARY etc blind media.
And ARY also is criticized for being pro PTI and Samaa also jump on different bandwagons when needed so it's not like only Geo or PMLN is criticized.
And all I'm saying is that I respectfully but extremely strongly disagree. It's still the only trustworthy, world class newspaper in the country and their TV channel is the only one in the country that doesn't give you brain cancer.
ARY isn't even pro PTI. It, along with Bol, is essentially an extension of ISPR. I've never heard them being criticized for their pro PTI bias nor have I even seen one unless khaki and PTI interests were aligned a'la the first dharna in 2014. Most right wingers and nationalists see them as, and I quote, "pro Pakistan" while the handful of liberals left in Pakistan see them as the army's mouthpiece, not PTI's. Only once have I seen a news outlet being correctly accused of being pro PTI(Dunya, until the 2013 elections) and even they are now genuinely pro PML, a u turn worthy of Samaa.
Yeah, only option I guess. I couldn't agree less with your opinion here.Dawn still better thn others in the country? A big YES like i said before but not trustworthy anymore. Let's just agree to disagree.
What's wrong with Sethi aside from his obvious PML-N bias. And while we're at it, what do Asma Jehangir, Sethi, Salim Safi and Mahmood Achakzai have in common aside from all being widely considered traitors/India agents? I understand Sethi being bashed for being a Noora but this is not the reason most Pakistanis hate him and the likes of Asma Jehangir, Safi and Achakzai, it's the fact that they are all extremely critical of the khakis despite having very different political leanings - mildly pro ANP for Safi, Pakhtun nationalism for Achakzai, PML for Sethi and Asma who's not a fan of anyone - and the since the khakis are the ultimate opinion makers in Pakistan, they have spun this narrative that anyone opposed to their activities is a traitor and/or Indian agent. Hell, I can't go three days without getting messages from random people in my "other" inbox accusing me of being a paid agent so this kind of rubbish against Sethi etc and especially Asma Jehangir irks me massively.I got no problem if you or any liberal bash khakis where needed but i don't want to hear it from the big mouths like Sethi because in the end they are also taking sides. Klasra talk about good relations with india all the time i respect his views and agree with him most of the but if Sethi tells me that while bashing khakis and sitting on PMLN lap? No Thanks
Yeah, only option I guess. I couldn't agree less with your opinion here.
What's wrong with Sethi aside from his obvious PML-N bias. And while we're at it, what do Asma Jehangir, Sethi, Salim Safi and Mahmood Achakzai have in common aside from all being widely considered traitors/India agents? I understand Sethi being bashed for being a Noora but this is not the reason most Pakistanis hate him and the likes of Asma Jehangir, Safi and Achakzai, it's the fact that they are all extremely critical of the khakis despite having very different political leanings - mildly pro ANP for Safi, Pakhtun nationalism for Achakzai, PML for Sethi and Asma who's not a fan of anyone - and the since the khakis are the ultimate opinion makers in Pakistan, they have spun this narrative that anyone opposed to their activities is a traitor and/or Indian agent. Hell, I can't go three days without getting messages from random people in my "other" inbox accusing me of being a paid agent so this kind of rubbish against Sethi etc and especially Asma Jehangir irks me massively.
By all means hate on him for his Nooraness but dismissing his opinions on the khakis out of hand without checking if there's any factual basis to them is ludicrous. It's a part of our culture to shoot the messenger but Noora tendencies aside, Sethi's opinions on the khakis are not without merit, nor are those of any of the others. This national sport of labelling people traitors for taking exception to khaki activities is dangerous and will result in tragedy at some point.
See here is the problem in your earlier you said "Kashif Abassi sounds reasonable but anyone who works for ARY or Bol is not to be trusted or taken seriously." Same is the situation for me i can't take these nationalists and pro-anp/pti/pmln analysts and their channel seriously when i know they are taking sides and also working for their agendas. There are good people even on ARY and BOL and there are good people on GEO and Dunya but because of majority we paint them all with same brush because our mind isn't able to accept them anymore thanks to their colleagues.
An no i don't label anyone a traitor.
[mention=26195]dw44[/mention]any idea about rauf klasra?
Don't follow him much so can't say for sure.[mention=26195]dw44[/mention]
Best current affairs show on TV by some distance.I like the Dawn's Zara Hat Kay news programme.
How do you follow all this weird stuff despite living in the US?
Dr. Danish and Sabir Shakir.
Any Idea about Rauf Klasra?
I like the Dawn's Zara Hat Kay news programme.
Best current affairs show on TV by some distance.
Not a stooge but has sources there which is fine.
Not a Army stooge?His comments reflect that.
His statements are Patriotic but he does not needlessly defend Army left right nor his shows look " planted " , occasionally he also criticises them for negative things.
He is one of the very few people who calls for financial accountability of ex service men aswell.
What is that channel he does his show on?With that Ameer Mateen.
What is that channel he does his show on?With that Ameer Mateen.
Rauf is good. Hassan Nisar is decent as well, I like him and Kashif Abassi the most. The rest, even if I like them, are a bit too biased.
92NewsHD Monday to Thursday 8:30 to 9:30pm Indian time. It's not allowed to post the URL here otherwise there is a site that upload each and every news program from all Pakistani news channels within 15 to 30 minutes after the program ends so you can always watch the latest program without channel.
92NewsHD seem to swing between extremes.They have this programme with that lady anchor which is only couple of rungs below Lal Topi level.Then on the other hand they have Rauf Klasra.
All three mainstream political parties are, in one way or the other, created or facilitated by army(PPP-Ayub, PML-Zia, PTI-Hamid Gul and Durrani) and as long as the army has power, we will continue to get these lame duck rulers while the army holds the real power.
I'm aware Bhutto served in Ayub's cabinet but can you expand on how PPP was facilitated by Ayub ? Always enjoy reading up on Pak political history.
92 is very much in the army's camp a'la Bol and ARY though not controlled directly by them like Bol. Dr. Danish, one of the three aforementioned stooges runs their premiere talk show killing millions of viewers' braincells. Last I checked Rauf Klasra was on a different channel though I don't follow the right wing media closely so might have missed his move if he made one.
Our Doctor sb has been warning since a couple of days that 'badmashia' has planned a large-scale massacre to take place on 30 or 31st December. He says the country will go into an anarchy never seen before in our history. Watch his shows from last two days.
I don't take him seriously, acts like he knows everything on this planet earth and makes vague predictions that come true every now and then but mostly useless.
A day after presenting evidence to the Supreme Court, Dr Shahid Masood backtracked from his statement alleging Zainab’s murderer owned 37 bank accounts, hinting at a child pornography scandal, saying that things are often misreported.
Speaking to the Express News the anchorperson said that investigation was not his responsibility and it was the job of state institutions to find the authenticity of the news.
“I did not provide this information with any wrong intent,” he said.
Masood, in his TV show claimed that the government of Punjab has brazenly lied to people and was later summoned by the Supreme Court to clarify and back his accusations.
SC orders probe into claim Kasur rape might be part of possible child porn ring
However, the State Bank of Pakistan stated that there has been no bank account found of alleged murderer, Imran.
Masood was supposed to appear before the Joint Investigation Team to submit evidence on Friday but did not do so.
The Supreme Court, taking notice of Masood’s claims, on Thursday had ordered the Punjab police to probe into the TV anchor’s claims that Zainab’s alleged murderer is part of an international racket involved in child pornography and that he hold more than 37 foreign currency accounts.
The bench asked the Punjab police to investigate whether the accused, as claimed by Dr Masood, was actually working for some international group involved in child abuse.
During the hearing, Dr Masood also appeared before the bench and said the accused was not a mentally ill person, but was part of a racket. He claimed that influential people, including a federal minister, were backing him. He expressed fears that the accused might be killed in police custody.
The chief justice observed that responsibility of the suspect’s security during police custody lied with the IG Punjab while the inspector-general of jails was responsible for his safety after judicial remand.
The court asked the anchor to share the names of the prominent figures allegedly involved in the crime. The names would be kept confidential till the completion of the investigation, it added.
Dr Masood handed over a paper with the names of other suspects to the judges, who warned him of ‘grave consequences’ if the allegations were found incorrect.
The case was adjourned till Monday, January 29.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/161888...inabs-murderer-holding-foreign-bank-accounts/
Dr. Shahid Masood wrote a very emotional Story of 2 Sisters of Lal Mosque who according to Shahid Masood were killed by Pak Army Commandos in a brutal way during the operation (at time of FAJR prayer).
It was such an emotional story about the ZULM that all people cried when they read it.
But the story was also a total Fabrication by Dr. Shahid Masood.
Supreme Court heard whole case and Commissions were formed who took the witness of all 200+ Pak Army Commandos who participated in the Operation, and all of them witnessed that NO Taliba was killed during the operation as all of them were taken out before the operation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lal_Masjid
There were only 84 Terrorists and 11 Commandos who were killed during the Operation. While not a single Taliba was killed.
While Dr. Shahid Masood wrote that those 2 Sisters were present in the Mosque at 4 am (morning) when the Operation started, and they called Dr. Shahid Masood at that time and he was able to hear the explosions on the phone. And then first the elder sister was killed and phone was taken by the younger sister who told him that "Baji has died". After that one sentence the younger sister also died.
At the end Dr. Shahid wrote: "I am using their FAKE NAMES as I promised them". Nobody knows why those sisters wanted him to use their fake names even after their death. Actually Dr. Shahid Masood had to write these fake names while he was fabricating the whole story at his own and no such 2 sisters with these names were the students in the Jamia Hafsa.
At one side there is Shahid Masood and on the other side there are testimonies of 200 SSG Commandos, ... whom are you going to believe?
Lal Mosque Mullahs are also unable to present the name of those 2 sisters in the supreme court.
Lal mosque terrorists killed 11 of our SSG commandos and injured 33.
All of them became free while people were emotional after reading this ZULM upon the female Students by Pak Army Commandos and Pak Army became weaker and thus Taliban became stronger.
Pakistan lost millions of investment due to the unrest in Islamabad.
It is never a good idea to misguide whole nation.
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The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) on Sunday, acting on a tip by Interpol Canada, arrested in Jhang an alleged member of a group that shared child pornography videos.
no one is angel here. story can be fake or real.
but the real question is why you just created the thread after 10 yrs ?
I did posted this question after the Commission presented it's report to SC, but it seems Pakistani People love the conspiracy theories and they didn't listen to me and kept on defending Shahid Masood .
A phony, a fraud, a charlatan but also an agent of intelligence agencies. Watch this old interview of him taken by Iftikhar Ahmed on the show Jawab Deyh. The actual interview starts after 7 mins. A very nefarious person.
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yes SC also loves Kanspiracy theories. thats why they didnt pay much attention to the commission created by noon govt. and thats why they announced to create diff JIT for this case.
just sit and relax and pay attention on JIT.
btw you can read post #71.
does it look like some Kanspiracy theory ?
Characterless, third class person.