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What to do with Pakistan's white-ball middle-order?

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So, the middle-order in white-ball cricket is clearly struggling.

Who deserves more chances? Who deserves to be dropped? Who deserves to be brought back? Who deserves their first chance?

Where are things going wrong and what needs improving?
 
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Do Pakistan even have a bench strength to replace the current ones? I don't think so!
 
People are calling for xyz in these positions. Let’s be honest the options are limited. We are going to be reliant our top 3/4 to do the job in LO. It’s a risky strategy, our bowling is also another issue. Shaheen is our only reliable seamer. We still don’t have a clue who our main spinner is. Shadab is only continually playing due to him being vice captain.
 
asif definitely needs dropping.

I would persist with Haider at no. 6 and Hafeez to no. 5, with Zaman at 4.

If Hafeez doesn't perform, then he also needs to be dropped later on.

Sharjeel> asif, haider and hafeez
 
Get Haris Sohail back in ODIs.

Get Shoaib Malik back in T20Is.

Get Imad Wasim back in both formats; at No.6 or 7 based on team composition.

Iftikhar as a possible back-up in both formats.

That should solve our middle-order problems.
 
Would still play Hafeez in 50 over cricket. The gap between T20 and ODIs is too wide to be bridged by stop-gaps.

Hafeez himself is a stop-gap with the road ending at CWC23. But given Haris’ fitness, he’s the best option. With him PAK should have Top 4-5 sorted if some combination of Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Rizwan and Hafeez occupy these slots.

Questions are more about No.6 and No. 7 for me. Imad, Nawaz, Shadab, Faheem? Or someone from outside this group.
 
I respect that a lot of experimentation has been done, but the biggest failing now would be to keep experimenting. There is no 'hitter' in Pakistan waiting to be discovered.

It's time to get back to the best TTF's that are available - Chacha Iftikhar and Shoaib Malik.

People can cry all they want but these two are the best options available for a WC in India and they may as well start getting international match experience from now.
 
While we are bringing back Shoaib Malik, might be an idea to bring back Azhar Ali also to add some experience ? Azhar Ali, Hafeez, Shoaib Malik at 4/5/6 with their wealth of experience in pressure situations could strengthen any middle order.
 
In my opinion, try out new guys until we find the right one, instead of going back to the tried ones.

I'll suggest to try the following players in ODI team middle order (no.5 and 6):

Saud Shakeel
Agha Salman
Aamir Yamin
Qasim Akram
Hussain Talat

In T20I team middle order (no.5 and 6):

Azam Khan (clean striker)
Zeeshan Ashraf (good boundary hitting skills)
Aamir Yamin (as batsman)
Amad Butt (as batsman at no.6 as he is a clean striker and will be more useful than someone like Haider Ali or Asif Ali. He can bowl a couple of overs as well)
Qasim Akram
 
Saud Shakeel and Iftikhar Ahmed in ODI'S at 5 and 6. Both can bowl as well.
Our all rounders cant bat that is another major issue.

In T20'S we've got no one
 
give azam khan a go in the t20 , maybe try out sharjeel in the middle order. our bench strength is very limited so we are going to have to go out of the box and hope we stumble on another superstar.
 
Asif Ali OUT Umar Akmal IN

Sarfaraz Ahmed OUT Azam Khan IN

Mohammad Nawaz OUT Shoaib Malik IN

Faheem Ashraf OUT Amir Yamin IN

This is what our batting line up should look like:

Sharjeel Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Mohammad Hafeez
Shoaib Malik
Umar Akmal
Azam Khan (wk)
Amir Yamin.
 
Babar Azam speaking after 4th T20I:

"We will sit together and talk about the middle-order batting and give the guys some confidence and see how we can fix this issue; We will see where we are making mistakes and try and fix those errors and play with a better combination next time"
 
Haider Ali has been a complete disappointment!

Asif Ali, the less said the better. He’s a terrible fielder also!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congratulations Pakistan on the series win! Despite the victory we need to review the middle-order performances where we seem to be struggling for a long time. I think Shoaib Malik must be considered again, especially since it's a T20 World Cup year</p>— Shahid Afridi (@SAfridiOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/SAfridiOfficial/status/1383100960512282624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
first of all pakistan need to develop at stratergy of what kind of players they want in middle order?

pure batsmen?
strikers of a cricket ball?
finishers?
All rounders?

Almost every other game the balance of the team is changed in the middle order with no thought being put into it. This is where the captain/coach/selectors are to blame. instead we are going back to selecting TTF or new domestic Hacks.

we have 2 T20 world cups in next 12 months plus an ODI world cup in 2 years and team management have been clueless in game plans and team building. pakistan will fail against best sides in whiteball games until thngs improve with selection.
 
Get Haris Sohail back in ODIs.

Get Shoaib Malik back in T20Is.

Get Imad Wasim back in both formats; at No.6 or 7 based on team composition.

Iftikhar as a possible back-up in both formats.

That should solve our middle-order problems.

Shoaib Malik in t20s???? The guy has a SR of 116 in t20 World Cups.
 
Asif Ali OUT Umar Akmal IN

Sarfaraz Ahmed OUT Azam Khan IN

Mohammad Nawaz OUT Shoaib Malik IN

Faheem Ashraf OUT Amir Yamin IN

This is what our batting line up should look like:

Sharjeel Khan
Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Mohammad Hafeez
Shoaib Malik
Umar Akmal
Azam Khan (wk)
Amir Yamin.

Yep that team would collapse in a minute lol.
 
asif definitely needs dropping.

I would persist with Haider at no. 6 and Hafeez to no. 5, with Zaman at 4.

If Hafeez doesn't perform, then he also needs to be dropped later on.

Sharjeel> asif, haider and hafeez

Forgot about Maqsood.

I'd bring him in at 5 and drop hafeez if he continues like this.

Basically:
1. Rizwan
2. Sharjeel
3. Babar
4. Zaman
5. Hafeez/Maqsood
6. Haider (will do well here)
 
For me i go with the following:

1. Rizwan (wk)
2. Babar Azam (c)
3. Fakhar Zaman
4. Sharjeel Khan/Imad Wasim/Sohaib Moqsood
5. Muhammad Hafeez
6. Muhammad Nawaz
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Usman Qadir
10. Shaheen Shah Afridi
11. Haris Rauf
 
I'd expect Imad and Haris are definitely back in the squad. For ODI's in particular, I'd let Haris & Saud battle it out for that 4th spot with Rizwan at 5. I do think Haider Ali deserves a longer role so I am fine to let him bat at 6 until he becomes more reliable.
 
i think malik and hafeez is fine for 4th and 5th slot they are reliable and do well on indian pitches
 
Theres no point going back to Malik Its time we moved on from him Hafeez is more than enough of the old brigade

Id drop asif ali Imad must come back

Ahmmad butt is one we must try as a bolwer who can bat a little He bats well down the order and can hit

Although pakistan is limited in choice Ifthiqar is probably the best option at 6 tbh A proper batsman with potential to hit a long ball
 
Bring Malik, Umar Akmal, Azam Khan and Imad Wasim. Much stronger middle order.

Iftikhar can also be brought as back up. Much better than this lot.
 
Ifty
Maqsood
Imad
Ahmmad

There are 4 players id bring into the next squad
 
Shoaib Malik in t20s???? The guy has a SR of 116 in t20 World Cups.

If you look at Shoaib Malik's numbers 2016 onwards, they are pretty good.

2016 - Avg: 52.8, SR: 131.2
2017 - Avg: 45.5, SR: 144.4
2018 - Avg: 41.0, SR: 164.0
2019 - Avg: 24.3, SR: 143.1
2020 - Avg: 72.0, SR: 128.6

He played in that No. 5, No. 6 spot during this time, lots of not outs and finishing off the innings on many occasions. He maintained healthy strike-rates pretty much through out and was a crucial player in the middle-order during Pakistan's rise to the top of the T20I rankings.

What surprises me is how quickly everyone has forgotten that he never did anything wrong to merit being dropped in the first place.

I think with the World Cup in India you need an experienced player like Malik who is one of the best players of spin in the world, along with Hafeez. And whose numbers back up the claim that he can still play. And hey, don't even take my word for it. Take Chahal's word for it. According to him Malik is a better player of spin than Steve Smith. And he has actually bowled at Malik.
 
People advocating for Umar Akmal's return cannot be taken seriously. Sorry, but talking about Akmal or Shehzad is an automatic disqualification.
 
If you look at Shoaib Malik's numbers 2016 onwards, they are pretty good.

2016 - Avg: 52.8, SR: 131.2
2017 - Avg: 45.5, SR: 144.4
2018 - Avg: 41.0, SR: 164.0
2019 - Avg: 24.3, SR: 143.1
2020 - Avg: 72.0, SR: 128.6

He played in that No. 5, No. 6 spot during this time, lots of not outs and finishing off the innings on many occasions. He maintained healthy strike-rates pretty much through out and was a crucial player in the middle-order during Pakistan's rise to the top of the T20I rankings.

What surprises me is how quickly everyone has forgotten that he never did anything wrong to merit being dropped in the first place.

I think with the World Cup in India you need an experienced player like Malik who is one of the best players of spin in the world, along with Hafeez. And whose numbers back up the claim that he can still play. And hey, don't even take my word for it. Take Chahal's word for it. According to him Malik is a better player of spin than Steve Smith. And he has actually bowled at Malik.

Look at that SR though it's dropped since 2018 and that will be our problem.

Malik would've been perfect in a low scoring affair like today and yes i would've felt more relaxed with him being out there rather than Haider but in a situation when we are building a score i think he's about average.

Pakistan Batting first (victories)- he averages 29 with a SR of 142 (however, a large majority of these are weak opponents and against the big powerhouses batting first such as South Africa and Australia he's been pretty poor in my view).

Pakistan Bowling first (victories)- average 62 with a SR of 112, no arguments there and goes to prove my point he's good in chasing but not in building a score.

Not arguing with you bhai but just making my point and to be honest there can only be one oldie in this t20 team.
 
Most batsmen in our current middle order are actually openers. Be it Hafeez, Haider or Fakhar. Now you can’t have a functional middle order with three openers hogging the spaces for specialist openers. However, the middle order specialists we’ve tried in the past aren’t that great either. We’ve tried Hussain Talat, Khudhdil Shah and Iftikhar Ahmed in the recent past with disappointing outcome.

It’s going to be huge responsibility on domestic coaches to develop middle order batsmen from now on. And it should be PCB’s first and foremost priority.
 
there is no way Fahim can be dropped,, he is a better bowler than everyone but SSA

I think Azam Khan and Ifftti Chacha deserve to be in the XI.

For me , ODIs

1) Fakhar
2) Imam
3)Babar
4)Rizwan
5)Haider
6) Harris
7) Imad
8) Fahim
9) Hassan
10) Usman Qadir / Zahid Mehmood / Sajjid Khan
11) Shaheen Shah Afridi

Imad is much better with ball and bat than Shadab and at par with Nawaz in bowling but much better than Nawaz in batting

I would take out Harris Sohail and bring in 2 of the 3 from Haider Ali, Azam Khan or Haffez in for T20, rest can remain the same. Azam khan will be a beast in T20s and the PSL will throw cat amongst the pigeons




Feel bad for Haider Ali... he is an opener with that mindset. the shot he got out to today (4th T20 vs SA), that would have been an easy boundary in first 6 overs... but with the top guys pushing firmly for the spot, it is difficult for him to break in at the min. But with Azam Khan making serious strides, he will somehow need to pull his sleeves up and do something about cementing his position for this T20 WC. Once Haffez is gone, i think Azam and Haider will make the 2 spots for sure
 
Top 4 in white ball cricket should be
Sharjeel
Fakhar
Baba
Rizwan

Rest of middle to late order sorry to say is not of international standard as seen today !
 
So, the middle-order in white-ball cricket is clearly struggling.

Who deserves more chances? Who deserves to be dropped? Who deserves to be brought back? Who deserves their first chance?

Where are things going wrong and what needs improving?

Below are the options for MO. what do you guys think?
options:

Untried recently in T20s: Sohaib Maqsood, Sarfaraz Ahmed and Haris Sohail.

Wildcards: Azam Khan, Asif Ali and Haider Ali.

Could be tried (not enough time): Saud

Tried but discarded after few games: Khusdil Shah, Hussain Talat and chachu

Please no Malik. 20 years or cricket nothing to show in WCs. No Imad Wasim is not a middle order batsmen, he’s later middle IMO

Other shuffling options:

Include Sharjeel and move Rizzie to MO.
Promote Haider to open and move Rizze to MO.
Promote Fahim to MO. He’s shown in test that he is solid and he’s shown in T20s that he can hit a long ball. Needs time on the crease but can be developed into a clutch player.
 
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In ODIs, get Haris at no.4 and work on Rizwan to become a better middle order batter. He struggles a lot while deciding whether to attack or defend or rotate the strike.
Rohail Nazir can be tried at no.6. Looks a very composed guy and plays according to the situation.
Could give Haider Ali a rope at no.6 and have him bat in top 5 in domestics. Hussain Talat could also be tried. Him and Haider are both mentally struggling atm. Haider with his temperament and Talat on his intent.
Imad and Shadab are fine for 7 and 8 in ODIs.
Fahim needs to improve his LOI batting a lot. His highest score in ODIs is 30 something I think which is unacceptable from an allrounder.

For t20is, there is a simple fix

Have Malik at no.5 with Imad at 6. Rohail Nazir and Talat could be tried as well. Have Haider as a backup.
 
Other than another shuffle of some known players I dont think much can be done at the moment.

Debutants and other inexperienced/young players’s mindset doesnt seem to be in the right zone as well. All the new middle order batsmen we have tried in last few months just dont look like themselves when they play for Pak. Yes quality of opposition in international cricket is usually much higher but, sometimes it looks like it has more to do with the mindset and overall confidence impacting them because they possibly have hit some better quality bowlers in domestic cricket or PSL than some they have faced at international level. They are struggling to mentally adapt to the level of international cricket cricket and I think they require better handling in that regard.
 
Other than another shuffle of some known players I dont think much can be done at the moment.

Debutants and other inexperienced/young players’s mindset doesnt seem to be in the right zone as well. All the new middle order batsmen we have tried in last few months just dont look like themselves when they play for Pak. Yes quality of opposition in international cricket is usually much higher but, sometimes it looks like it has more to do with the mindset and overall confidence impacting them because they possibly have hit some better quality bowlers in domestic cricket or PSL than some they have faced at international level. They are struggling to mentally adapt to the level of international cricket cricket and I think they require better handling in that regard.

I completely agree with this.
How much better are Magale, Lizad Williams or linde better than PSL bowling? Haider, Asif Khushdul all do well there. It definitely includes a mental block
 
Biggest mistake was dropping chacha and haris sohail from the white ball team.

They should have been persisted with they also both offer a part time bowling option

Asif ali should be nowhere near intl setup he is not intl material.


I would also bring hussain talat back discarded too quickly imo .
 
ODI XI: Fakhar, Imam, Babar, Rizwan, Saud, Iftikhar, Imad/Shadab/Nawaz, Faheem, Hasan, Shaheen, Haris/Qadir/Hasnain

T20 XI: Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, Hafeez, Iftikhar/Malik, Haider, Imad/Shadab/Nawaz, Faheem, Hasan, Shaheen, Haris/Qadir/Hasnain

Some names above most folks won't like but considering our middle order woes on this tour, it will suffice as there's no better options. It's not horrible but it's not the best either. I believe Haider Ali will come good but for now I feel he should bat at 6 in t20s for Pakistan; if and when he plays more FC cricket and develops better temperament and patience at the crease, then I feel he'll be ready for a top order spot both in ODIs and tests. Us fans need to be patient with Haider Ali as he is a diamond of a batsman and should be given the longest rope. Apart from him, I'm hoping to see Saud in action (it was a bummer for him not to be able to play the recently concluded ODI series). He healed from his quad injury, but I doubt management will give him a spot in the XI vs Zim in tests.
 
Saud Shakeel needs to be played at the #5 position for the ODI side, and should be persisted with because he actually has a solid domestic record that merits his selection unlike the likes of Asif Ali. In fact, he should have been debuted quite a while ago and God knows why he hasn’t already been tried.
 
Imam not opening solves a lot of problems but he’s been consistent as an opener.

If Fakhar and Rizwan open that lets us play both Saud and Haider in the middle order
 
Look at that SR though it's dropped since 2018 and that will be our problem.

Malik would've been perfect in a low scoring affair like today and yes i would've felt more relaxed with him being out there rather than Haider but in a situation when we are building a score i think he's about average.

Pakistan Batting first (victories)- he averages 29 with a SR of 142 (however, a large majority of these are weak opponents and against the big powerhouses batting first such as South Africa and Australia he's been pretty poor in my view).

Pakistan Bowling first (victories)- average 62 with a SR of 112, no arguments there and goes to prove my point he's good in chasing but not in building a score.

Not arguing with you bhai but just making my point and to be honest there can only be one oldie in this t20 team.

He only played 2 innings in 2020 where the SR was low. So its unfair to say it has dropped.
 
If you look at Shoaib Malik's numbers 2016 onwards, they are pretty good.

2016 - Avg: 52.8, SR: 131.2
2017 - Avg: 45.5, SR: 144.4
2018 - Avg: 41.0, SR: 164.0
2019 - Avg: 24.3, SR: 143.1
2020 - Avg: 72.0, SR: 128.6

He played in that No. 5, No. 6 spot during this time, lots of not outs and finishing off the innings on many occasions. He maintained healthy strike-rates pretty much through out and was a crucial player in the middle-order during Pakistan's rise to the top of the T20I rankings.

What surprises me is how quickly everyone has forgotten that he never did anything wrong to merit being dropped in the first place.

I think with the World Cup in India you need an experienced player like Malik who is one of the best players of spin in the world, along with Hafeez. And whose numbers back up the claim that he can still play. And hey, don't even take my word for it. Take Chahal's word for it. According to him Malik is a better player of spin than Steve Smith. And he has actually bowled at Malik.

After seeing our middle order yesterday, I also think we need malik back for WC, He always do well on subcontinent pitches.
 
I think we have to get out of box ideas and not be afraid to play openers as middle order batsmen
 
Malik at 5 until the T20 world cup in India. Keep experimenting with the #6 slot. Need a power hitter there. Haider Ali seems to be the only option at the moment but PSL might throw up someone else.
 
Saud Shakeel needs to be played at the #5 position for the ODI side, and should be persisted with because he actually has a solid domestic record that merits his selection unlike the likes of Asif Ali. In fact, he should have been debuted quite a while ago and God knows why he hasn’t already been tried.

Saud shakeel will end up like asad shafiq , younis khan , fawad alam average in white ball cricket

Why because they cannot accelerate and switch up a gear , plus non existent power hitting abilities . They will hardly win you any games.
 
Younis Khan on the middle order struggles:

"If we talk about Mohammad Hafeez, we see that when your top order is performing so well, then your lower order doesnt get so much of a chance to bat so when they are exposed to a crunch situation, we dont see the sort of form we expect from them"

"In 4th T20I, we had Babar and Fakhar playing so well and I have always told my batsmen never to leave a task half-done, and we saw that moment they were both out the situation became such that we were finding it difficult to hit a run a ball"

"I never wait to give my input to the players - In fact I have a meeting with the players in the airport lounge soon and sometimes players even get irritated by me as I am always talking about cricket with them"

"As a batsman, you need to learn from your mistakes and in that sense, Haider Ali is doing that and if we talk about the lower middle order, they are also doing that"

"In the past few series, our lower order would perform but the top order would not do that - which was the case in New Zealand and England"
 
Younis Khan on the middle order struggles:

"If we talk about Mohammad Hafeez, we see that when your top order is performing so well, then your lower order doesnt get so much of a chance to bat so when they are exposed to a crunch situation, we dont see the sort of form we expect from them"

"In 4th T20I, we had Babar and Fakhar playing so well and I have always told my batsmen never to leave a task half-done, and we saw that moment they were both out the situation became such that we were finding it difficult to hit a run a ball"

"I never wait to give my input to the players - In fact I have a meeting with the players in the airport lounge soon and sometimes players even get irritated by me as I am always talking about cricket with them"

"As a batsman, you need to learn from your mistakes and in that sense, Haider Ali is doing that and if we talk about the lower middle order, they are also doing that"

"In the past few series, our lower order would perform but the top order would not do that - which was the case in New Zealand and England"

Indian team in the last WC had the same problems. The only way to strengthen middle order is to bring in Sharjeel to open and bat Rizwan at 4, Hafeez at 5. But that would be messing up with a successful opening partnership. Need to have experience in the middle order as Pak always did.
 
I don't know how will Pakistan solve its middle order for T20, but for ODI I have a unique solution. Open with Rizwan and force Fakhar to bat at #5. Because you need someone with strong mentality to finish the game at #5, and in my opinion no one more strong minded than Fakhar at this moment in Pakistan. Many people would want to play a big hitter at opening, but what you need at opening in ODI is a stroke maker not big hitter. If you really want at big hitter at opening than open with Haider instead of Imam, but I have got a hunch that this will not work at all. But before anyone talks about Sharjeel, absolutely no. Anyone who do not have the fitness to stay at field for 100 overs should never be considered.

That way the final team should be:

Rizwan
Imam
Babar
Saud (Considering Hafeez will not be available and Haris simply is no longer fit to play, this is best solution to bring a new player)
Fakar
Imad
Fahim
Nawaz / Qadir / Amad
Hassan
Shaheen
Hasnain / Rauf
 
Younis is right. If the top 3 batsmen are performing so well, middle order will hardly get a chance to bat. Either they have slog/hit out, or they are under pressure to rescue the innings. They can not play with the freedom that those at top can play. And those at the top e.g. Rizwan, Imam will struggle down the order as shown too.

We see the same problem with India, their top 3 is so reliable, the rest of the batsmen struggle to do anything/make an impact.

In this situation, you I can see the sense of playing really aggressive middle order batsmen as they will usually come in with pressure to score. I'm not surprised we are playing Asif and Haider (but was surprised when Haider didn't play earlier) as a result. As when both come in, there's almost always pressure to hit quick runs. And while both have failings, both score at high SRs and can hit early on. There are people down the order like Kushadil, Iftikhar, Faheem, Shadab who average low and struggle to hit from the start.

The LOI game has changed, teams are way too top heavy, the game is decided by the top 3, pitches are flatter. Batting middle/late order is now way harder than top order. I think it's fine give players mid/late order extended chances, as long as they can score at good SRs, and preferably hit from ball one. Better to fail at least not playing selfish and going for it, than a slow innings down the order which hurts the team. We just don't need the rescue batsmen mid/late order anymore. And hitters that perform reliably in domestic mid order, I can't honestly think of any stand outs apart from Haider, Asif and Iftikhar to an extent. That is why we're stuck, these guys might be bad, but they are the best from domestic, PSL, the others are probably even worse.
 
Younis is right. If the top 3 batsmen are performing so well, middle order will hardly get a chance to bat. Either they have slog/hit out, or they are under pressure to rescue the innings. They can not play with the freedom that those at top can play. And those at the top e.g. Rizwan, Imam will struggle down the order as shown too.

We see the same problem with India, their top 3 is so reliable, the rest of the batsmen struggle to do anything/make an impact.

In this situation, you I can see the sense of playing really aggressive middle order batsmen as they will usually come in with pressure to score. I'm not surprised we are playing Asif and Haider (but was surprised when Haider didn't play earlier) as a result. As when both come in, there's almost always pressure to hit quick runs. And while both have failings, both score at high SRs and can hit early on. There are people down the order like Kushadil, Iftikhar, Faheem, Shadab who average low and struggle to hit from the start.

The LOI game has changed, teams are way too top heavy, the game is decided by the top 3, pitches are flatter. Batting middle/late order is now way harder than top order. I think it's fine give players mid/late order extended chances, as long as they can score at good SRs, and preferably hit from ball one. Better to fail at least not playing selfish and going for it, than a slow innings down the order which hurts the team. We just don't need the rescue batsmen mid/late order anymore. And hitters that perform reliably in domestic mid order, I can't honestly think of any stand outs apart from Haider, Asif and Iftikhar to an extent. That is why we're stuck, these guys might be bad, but they are the best from domestic, PSL, the others are probably even worse.

This is a very interesting observation! I mostly agree. In WC though when the pressure is on, matches go down to the wire where you need proper batsmen to see through the innings.
Remember how Eng played in the final 2019 WC? Butler had to play a very composed innings.
Although I think Pak still need 1 more solid batter who can play at a good clip and has the power game. I think Khusdil has the domestic list A stats with 100 SR at healthy average of 45ish. He deserves a long run at 5
 
For T 20. ODI
Haider Ali. Haider Ali
Sharjeel imam ul haq
Fakhar zaman. Babar
Babar. Haris sohail
Hafeez. Rohail nazir
Rizwan. Fakhar zaman
Hassan Ali. Faheem Ashraf
Zafar gohar. Zafar gowhar
Usman qadir/Zeeshan. Usman qadir
Afridi. Hassan ali
Haris rauf. Afridi
 
Play rizwan at 4 saud at 5 haider Ali at 6 in odis

In t20s
Hafeez at 4 haider Ali at 5 imad wasim at 6 In t20s
 
In addition to the t20 team Azam Khan and shaoib maqsood may get a chance.
 
Another disaster - not getting better this middle-order crisis.
 
How does Ahmed not get into this sorry team is beyond my understanding. Anyways Pakistan’s loss.
 
How does Ahmed not get into this sorry team is beyond my understanding. Anyways Pakistan’s loss.

What position would Ahmed occupy? The top 4 is already settled with Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar, and Hafeez. At the moment, the team is looking for #5 and #6 which should be occupied who can settle and score quickly.

Sheezy has never shown that he can settle in and score quickly. Instead, most of his career he played a similar game to Imam, who is not in consideration for a spot.
 
Inzamam on his YouTube channel:

“The weak link in this Pakistan side is its middle-order, which needs a lot of improvement. It looks as if the tailenders start coming after the number three position"

“The good thing at the moment is that Pakistan’s top-order is doing really well or else winning matches, with this weak middle-order, would have been very difficult. The players need to realise their responsibility and quickly learn from their mistakes. Right now, Pakistan team is winning but if they don’t the pressure on the players will increase significantly. Team management also has experienced players who need to focus on this area"
 
What's happened to Hafeez 3.0? [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]

Does he need another reboot?
 
What position would Ahmed occupy? The top 4 is already settled with Rizwan, Babar, Fakhar, and Hafeez. At the moment, the team is looking for #5 and #6 which should be occupied who can settle and score quickly.

Sheezy has never shown that he can settle in and score quickly. Instead, most of his career he played a similar game to Imam, who is not in consideration for a spot.

No Shezzy batting has only one issue sometimes which is that he plays straight to the fielders when the field is in during the power play. If he comes at #5, not everyone will be inside circle and he will be able to milk ones, two and fours all day long.

Pakistan management has to be brave and play him at #5 and reap rewards. Such decision are rarely taken but can then turn out to be master strokes. We cannot waste the talent of Shahzad
 
No Shezzy batting has only one issue sometimes which is that he plays straight to the fielders when the field is in during the power play. If he comes at #5, not everyone will be inside circle and he will be able to milk ones, two and fours all day long.

Pakistan management has to be brave and play him at #5 and reap rewards. Such decision are rarely taken but can then turn out to be master strokes. We cannot waste the talent of Shahzad

How about Sheezy does that for a domestic team and shows he is capable of doing that. At the moment, it's as good as saying I can do that for the national team if given the chance. This isn't a charity where spots are handed out, you need to earn them with some sort of performance.
 
What's happened to Hafeez 3.0? [MENTION=65183]freelance_cricketer[/MENTION]

Does he need another reboot?

3.0 was a demo version (30-day trial only - expired ) , after that the software appears to have downgraded back to 2.0 with same known bugs.

Although yesterday’s batting performance looks like a new bug , as the last time I checked the source code in 2.0 it had the line :

if (opposition==‘Zimbabwe’ and flatWicket==True) {
batLikeBradman()
}

Must be a one-off exception , will need to monitor closely.
 
How about Sheezy does that for a domestic team and shows he is capable of doing that. At the moment, it's as good as saying I can do that for the national team if given the chance. This isn't a charity where spots are handed out, you need to earn them with some sort of performance.

He has done more than enough in his career that he doesn’t need to prove anything. There are actual data and performances to back this up. He is a proven quantity. You are talking as if he is some teenager breaking into the game.
 
Time to try abdullah shafiq at no. 5. Haider Ali is horrible he doesn't even understand the basics of batting.
 
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