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SandyB said:
Good points [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION].. Not agreeing fully though.. Eminem is still one of the top 5 GOAT..
I too used to think about Eminem as THE GOAT back when I thought Rap was just post-2000 songs.. I just hit up on the pre 1999 (Eminem era) material only much later..

Nas's N.Y. State of Mind , PAC's California love(featuring DRE) and Biggie's Juicy give Loose yourself a good run for its money in every metric of judging a RAP song. So are great pioneering numbers by N.W.A (Straight outta Compton & "FK the Police") .. or Ice T ("You played yourself") or Wu-Tang Clan.

Missy Elliot (" Get your Freak On") surely deserves mention too..

Regarding 2PAC and Biggie, neither lived long enough for us to see any appreciable decline/change in their output to judge them as Artists.

If you look at it, they died at their Peaks or to the end of it (in Biggie's case). And their death added a level of romanticism regarding their work.. They could easily have gone eminem's or Nas's way, unable to replicate their initial success. Let's see how Eminem launches a comeback to relevance, rather than piggybacking on Rihanna to bail out his songs..

Great Rappers like Ice Cube ("It was a good day", "You can Do it") , refused to adapt their music to changing times and faded away. So have good rappers like 50 Cent (not great but had GOAT hits like "In Da Club").

Snoop Dogg and Jay Z are strange cases too .. They have a long body of work but the really memorable songs MAYBE fewer. Snoop had some great FEAT numbers with many great artists..

Rap has changed far too much in the modern times.. It had to adapt . For the level of criticism Kanye Gets, he actually does a lot of innovation in his work and to an extend has made rap still relevant in modern music. I love "heartless" and "Homecoming"..
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That is a big misconception, it's like saying John Cena is better then Stone Cold because Austins prime was short or due to a lack of longevity; what Pac and Biggie achieved in a short amount of time is unprecedented and cements their legacy's and are already regarded as one of the greatest artists of all time across all genre's not just hip hop by many publications and expert peer reviews. This romanticism with their work due to their death belittles their achievements and the power of their music, it's nothing to do with nostalgia or martyrdom I on a personal level like many others thoroughly enjoy Pac's work and continue to listen to it because I love it in comparison to any other rapper and can listen to him for hours, the replay value of his records is astonishing. I don't find myself going back to another artist as much as Pac given how insightful he was or just great at making you feel good when you're a bit down.

It's also worth pointing out that during Pac's peak he shuffled outside the norm of his era and remained successful, many rappers during that time were narrative driven but they didn't cover social issues, politics, institutional discrimination, inner city hardship and motivations/positivity in times of hardships as much as him. If he was able to display such creativity/versatility in a short amount of time just imagine what he'd have been capable of had he lived longer, Ice Cube is great but he doesn't command the stage presence or aura of Tupac; also he didn't adopt but it was also due to him going to hollywood more then anything, he pretty much retired his own career; he didn't put as much effort into music, gangster rap made me do it was very well received critically it came out in 08 but times had changed.

Often they say how'd have Pac done in these times but we've seen more then enough evidence to suggest he'd be a success but how'd have the prominent names you mention survived during Pac's prime when you couldn't get away with piggybacking on Rihanna or rely on excellent beat production; you see the likes of Pac and Biggie were so skilled when it came to their art that adopting to 2000's would be an absolute walk in the park because it's just so non-sensical isn't it.

Yes, Heartless is my favourite Kanye song and Eminem is probably the best from the 2000's. I'd definitely put him in my top 5
 
[MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] you're telling me Pac and Biggie can't make a record better then this or similar:


:))) :))) :))) This is the hip hop at it's best amongst the current gen, has almost 300 million views on youtube and certified 2x Platinum in the US.
 
Even though I rate Pac and Biggie more than Em [MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] I don't think they have released a record that compares to Loose Yourself, although Juicy , Changes and Haily Mary compare for me; California I leave out as the theme is different so wanted to compare tracks which are similar in vein. I think that while at times it is fine to judge artists when it comes to the stats and longevity but we shouldn't limit the context and judge individual skill as well in addition to whom you enjoy listening to more to come to an objective conclusion. The ultimate GOAT debate will always be subjective, but Pac, Biggie and Eminem are regarded among the greatest artists of all time.
 
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Even though I rate Pac and Biggie more than Em [MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] I don't think they have released a record that compares to Loose Yourself, although Juicy , Changes and Haily Mary compare for me; California I leave out as the theme is different so wanted to compare tracks which are similar in vein. I think that while at times it is fine to judge artists when it comes to the stats and longevity but we shouldn't limit the context and judge individual skill as well in addition to whom you enjoy listening to more to come to an objective conclusion. The ultimate GOAT debate will always be subjective, but Pac, Biggie and Eminem are regarded among the greatest artists of all time.
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Have you listened to uppercut and dear mama by pac?
 
SL_Fan said:
Agree with shazzy bear eminem does have a bit of an annoying whiny voice. Still would put him in the top three tho. For mine biggie, pac and em.
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You have to you lil jobber, even when you don't or.... ! :))

Last song I listened to:

Lady Gaga - Chow was Born This Way
 
Madplayer said:
Have you listened to uppercut and dear mama by pac?
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Yeah love those songs and Brenda's got a Baby, Trapped, Troublesome 96 , Street Fame, I get around, Picture and Picture Me Rolling to name a few. Made Niggaz is another decent track was listening to today, the video is pretty cool refreshing camera work:

 
I like Ghetto Gospel to ft Elton John the combo actually worked really well, the record was ironically produced by Eminem who paid tribute to Pac by working with Afeni Shakur to release a posthmous album :)) [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] Rear View Mirror is great as well, there's a remix ft Phill Collins and it works really well again lol
 
Woke up with fifty enemies plottin my death
All fifty seein visions of me shot in the chest
Couldn't rest, nah brother I was stressed
Had me creepin 'round corners, homie sleepin in my vest
Shizzle, I'm like a hostage on this troubled block, call the cops
A thug brother screamin Westside, bustin double glocks
Hittin corners in my Chevy Surburban
Liquor got me drivin up on the curb, hand on the steerin wheel swervin
Bless me Father I'ma sinner, I'm livin in hell
Just let me live on the streets, cause ain't no peace for me in jail
Gettin world-wide exposure
with a bunch of niggaz that don't give a FISH, ridin as my soldiers
I just release 'em on a war path, not your average dealer
Westside Outlaw; Bad Boy killer, huh
Complete my mission my competition no longer beefin
I murdered all them bustas now I'm the last mother breathin

Vah ji WAH! :bow: :bow:
 

Whaaat aay legend, seriously stop comparing pansy's to the ultimate O.G! and ultimate GOAT
 
shaz619 said:
I like Ghetto Gospel to ft Elton John the combo actually worked really well, the record was ironically produced by Eminem who paid tribute to Pac by working with Afeni Shakur to release a posthmous album :)) [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] Rear View Mirror is great as well, there's a remix ft Phill Collins and it works really well again lol
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Woahhhhh you seem to be a bigger fan of his than i am . hahaha i have listened to most of these. The ones i haven't, i will listen to now.

The first one of his i ever listened to was hit 'em up. Damnn that was one heck of a ride for a guy in his early teens lol

He has lots of good work and i've listened to most but some of them come instantly to mind like hit em up , America's most wanted ft. Snoop , changes, uppercut etc because these are some of the very first ones i listened to.
 
shaz619 said:
You have to you lil jobber, even when you don't or.... ! :))

Last song I listened to:

Lady Gaga - Chow was Born This Way
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Yes it's me, the C.H.O.W.
Competition ripper ever since 13!
Used to steal clothes was considered a thief,
Until I started hustlin’ on Fulton Street.
Makin loot! Knockin' boots on the regular,
Pass the microphone I'm the perfect competitor.
Jewels and all that! My clothes is all that!
Chumps steppin' to me. That's where they took a FALL at!

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SL_Fan said:
Yes it's me, the C.H.O.W.
Competition ripper ever since 13!
Used to steal clothes was considered a thief,
Until I started hustlin’ on Fulton Street.
Makin loot! Knockin' boots on the regular,
Pass the microphone I'm the perfect competitor.
Jewels and all that! My clothes is all that!
Chumps steppin' to me. That's where they took a FALL at!

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:)))

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Arguably the best of Grime, So Solid Crew were pioneers who ensured the ascension of the genre.
 
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shaz619 said:
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Arguably the best of Grime, So Solid Crew were pioneers who ensured the ascension of the genre.
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That was shot in the old Feltham shopping centre. It has been pulled down and redeveloped since.
 
Robert said:
That was shot in the old Feltham shopping centre. It has been pulled down and redeveloped since.
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Robert's favourite song, he sings it in the shower:

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"Crunchy Garnola Suit" by Neil Diamond from his album 'Hot August Night (Live)'.
 
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Madplayer said:
I liked that song by ahmad jahanzeb and umair jaiswal in the last coke studio.
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Yeah great song. Jahanzeb has a very good vocal range. Jaswal however is a bit of try hard. Tries too much to be Rockstar which he clearly isn't.
 
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Big up to the Grime Scene in the UK! The last of what has been left of the great era which was Old School Hip Hop, the scene is buzzing more then ever! You won't find a crop of rappers like Skepta, Stormzy, Akala, Giggs, Lowkey and Kept+Konan who are more creative, intelligent, fluid, edgy and gritty when it comes to their work.

Obviously those whom have a unhealthy obsession with the talents in US will be more into the fruity brothers who mumble with autotune, piggy back of other singers and overly produced beats whilst looking like absolute clowns.
 
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Classic king crimson. No bands around like these anymore :(
 
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I was set up O.G ! :sharjeel [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

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[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] I added a 2hour long Pac/Biggie mix to my phone for the gym, man those two rappers wont be ever emulated :(

I listened to a few pieces by an American Asian(Chinese) woman who plays the violin , she did a Mario theme tune, it was epic. If anyone knows her name please let me know.
 
KingKhanWC said:
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] I added a 2hour long Pac/Biggie mix to my phone for the gym, man those two rappers wont be ever emulated :(

I listened to a few pieces by an American Asian(Chinese) woman who plays the violin , she did a Mario theme tune, it was epic. If anyone knows her name please let me know.
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I was just going to ask you that womans name, will need to find her :))

Totally agree with you bro, look at all these people get behind the fruity brothers; those two were the GOAT, 2pac provides incredible insight/depth on a range of topics across many themes, I've never listened to a rapper more intelligent then him and he just had this aura about him and power/influence, amazing command over his audience. It's like you can feel his music run through your veins, I doubt there are many artists in the genre who can have the same effect on you
 
shaz619 said:
I was just going to ask you that womans name, will need to find her :))

Totally agree with you bro, look at all these people get behind the fruity brothers; those two were the GOAT, 2pac provides incredible insight/depth on a range of topics across many themes, I've never listened to a rapper more intelligent then him and he just had this aura about him and power/influence, amazing command over his audience. It's like you can feel his music run through your veins, I doubt there are many artists in the genre who can have the same effect on you
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I think he was a rare modern rapper who connected with people from all types of backgrounds, people who came up against hardships could feel some empowerment that such a voice recognises their daily issues. Tracks such as Brenda got a baby in his early days showed this. He was a modern day poet, writing thousands of lyrics , sadly most never made it into records.

One of my favourite old school is Paris. Not sure if you have heard their album Guerrilla Funk, classic great rap.

 
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I think he was a rare modern rapper who connected with people from all types of backgrounds, people who came up against hardships could feel some empowerment that such a voice recognises their daily issues. Tracks such as Brenda got a baby in his early days showed this. He was a modern day poet, writing thousands of lyrics , sadly most never made it into records.

One of my favourite old school is Paris. Not sure if you have heard their album Guerrilla Funk, classic great rap.

https://youtu.be/K5PccNF_zrU#sthash.CUYGBhMB.dpuf
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Listening to One Time Fo Ya Mind by Paris and Trapped by Pac I just wonder what they'd make of the world we live in now :)) These days mans brag about how great life is in the hood which is complete rubbish while back then they'd highlight the issues they face and striving for a better life. Pac and Paris were cut from the same vein being influenced by the Black Panther party which led to socially and politically conscious material. Am not sure if the two ever made a song together? Anyhow given the state of the world and rap in general, grime is the closest style to old school hip hop; you ever listen to the likes of Skepta and So Solid Crew etc ? a new talented kid named Stormzy has managed to get a little bit of attention at the mainstream and has potential to be a big star but perhaps he may adapt, this is the latest single from his debut album which was released this week (think he has found a balance with this release, between staying true to grime and appealing a little to the current era):

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Know me from is my favourite release of his when he was still an underground MC plus I enjoyed the creativity in the video given the limited resources available to him like many others who produce music in the grime genre in the underground scene
 
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Btw [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] who was Kato? Pac, Outlaws, Sykes and even some east coast rappers get really emotional when they mention him in their songs; he seems like someone who was highly respected and almost like their own blood who done a lot for everyone. "How Long Will They Mourn Me" was dedicated entirely to him and he is mentioned many times on other tracks
 
Been listening to "Old Thing Back" by Biggie. It's probably my most listened to song of this past week. Absolutely brilliant song. Biggie is just unbelievable with his lyrics and flow on it. I'm talking about the Matoma version.
 
Anyone listen to The Prophec? Very underrated and one of my favorite artists.

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Nobody has done fusion better than Johnny Mac and his boys. :D
 
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shaz619 said:
Btw [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] who was Kato? Pac, Outlaws, Sykes and even some east coast rappers get really emotional when they mention him in their songs; he seems like someone who was highly respected and almost like their own blood who done a lot for everyone. "How Long Will They Mourn Me" was dedicated entirely to him and he is mentioned many times on other tracks
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From what I can remember, he was a gang member who met Pac and joined his group. He was killed shortly after. No I don't think Pac and Paris every collaborated unfortunately. I haven't listened to much new UK grime but Stormzy has been a big hit, he's an interesting artist but imo can improve a lot as his work needs something a little bit mature but a good prospect. Lowkey is a good UK artist, along with Immortal Technique they have done wonders for political rap. Have you checked them out?
 
KingKhanWC said:
From what I can remember, he was a gang member who met Pac and joined his group. He was killed shortly after. No I don't think Pac and Paris every collaborated unfortunately. I haven't listened to much new UK grime but Stormzy has been a big hit, he's an interesting artist but imo can improve a lot as his work needs something a little bit mature but a good prospect. Lowkey is a good UK artist, along with Immortal Technique they have done wonders for political rap. Have you checked them out?
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Have checked them out, was a fan of both; although they've not released anything as of late, Lowkey went on hiatus, I've read that his house was raided at one point and made things a bit uncompatible for his family
 
shaz619 said:
I was set up O.G ! :sharjeel [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

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That coachella hologram thingo few years back was something else


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Btw congrats on the potw shazzy bear. Welcome to the illuminati all through ya body like a twelve gauge shotty :))
 
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Been listening to "Old Thing Back" by Biggie. It's probably my most listened to song of this past week. Absolutely brilliant song. Biggie is just unbelievable with his lyrics and flow on it. I'm talking about the Matoma version.
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Gotta be one of the best mixes out there. Posted a few others earlier in the thread somewhere. This one by Kygo/Shota not too bad either. Check it out champ you might see fyah :))


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SL_Fan said:
That coachella hologram thingo few years back was something else


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Btw congrats on the potw shazzy bear. Welcome to the illuminati all through ya body like a twelve gauge shotty :))
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The Authority always wins :afridi they made an offer I could not refuse, let the darkness flow within us :akhtar When did you win POTW chow :))) what was it for bah gawd :yk Am guessing it was your outstanding defence of Murali, I loved how it riled you up to the point where you let all the monkey out the boot :))

Everyone was in absolute shock weren't they, am not sure how they even got that done; but man it seems incredibly surreal, wonder what it would have felt like to be there at coachella surely has to be one of the most enchanting performances ever at the event
 
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[MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION] O'kefe singing to India, mai yaaah haaa hoooon waaa haaa hooon yaaaaa haaa in your back yard with a shovel to bury you :))) [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION]
 
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Enya - Orinoco Flow

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The Authority always wins :afridi they made an offer I could not refuse, let the darkness flow within us :akhtar When did you win POTW chow :))) what was it for bah gawd :yk Am guessing it was your outstanding defence of Murali, I loved how it riled you up to the point where you let all the monkey out the boot :))

Everyone was in absolute shock weren't they, am not sure how they even got that done; but man it seems incredibly surreal, wonder what it would have felt like to be there at coachella surely has to be one of the most enchanting performances ever at the event
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Can't beat em so join em! #kevindurant :yk
 
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I have been listening this song "ammi" by sartaj so adorable and beautiful song by him today.wonderful singer this guy is!
 
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Saari Ummar.

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Abdul said:
The tone is nice.

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Think you might like this one. [MENTION=139288]Abdul[/MENTION] song starts at 0:28.

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Love the beat for people who get Punjabi Dilli de Sardarboys :p

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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] any other songs you know which are similar to Paris-One time fo ya mind? really enjoyed that :))
 
Andrea Bocelli, Sarah Brightman - Time To Say Goodbye

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Katie Melua - Nine Million Bicycles

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shaz619 said:
[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] any other songs you know which are similar to Paris-One time fo ya mind? really enjoyed that :))
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Have you listened to the album? My favourite is 'Bring it to Ya', imo the greatest ever police rap.

Check this out, proper old school. The days of break dance. Turn it up to the max for full appreciation. The lyrics make me laugh now but the beat/instrumentals are simply amazing.

'What people do for money'

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KingKhanWC said:
Have you listened to the album? My favourite is 'Bring it to Ya', imo the greatest ever police rap.

Check this out, proper old school. The days of break dance. Turn it up to the max for full appreciation. The lyrics make me laugh now but the beat/instrumentals are simply amazing.

'What people do for money'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dqm3WNB4b4
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You reckon that is even better then Trapped?

Need to listen to the entire album, no I haven't; was listening to an interview by paris in modern times was fascinating

Listening to what people do now
 
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You reckon that is even better then Trapped?

Need to listen to the entire album, no I haven't; was listening to an interview by paris in modern times was fascinating

Listening to what people do now
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It's always difficult to compare but it's very powerful, no holding back and the sirens mixed in the beat resonates. Let me know what you think.

This genre of electo/rap is vastly underrated as things moved onto to gangsta rap but this was original hip-hop, roots of what we have today. If you enjoy it check out others such as Planet Rock by Africaan Bambaata, Jam on it and the likes of Al naafiysh by Hashim. When DJ's had real skills scratching and mixing vinyl's.
 
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[MENTION=133972]shaykh[/MENTION] you can hate us now but we won't stop now :akhtar


Brothers fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer
Guess it's just the fury of man!
Became a monster, on top of the world, never fallin!
I'm as real as they come, from day one, forever ballin!

:yk2
 
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Katie Melua - Nine Million Bicycles

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Really enjoyed that! never came across her before, such records rarely get released now
 
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Enya - Orinoco Flow

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Always reminds me of the torture scene in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
 
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