"When it's 13-0 or 10-1, it's not a rivalry anymore": Suryakumar Yadav

[Usman Chadda]

First of all, don't call it a political rivalry, Pak as country is nothing in front of India w.r.t any aspects be it economy, be it army and defence, be it finance, be it education, be it sports, be it medicine..etc, there is no department pakistan is competing against India to call it a Rival..only thing that make you relevant is your terrorists whose only job is to destabilize India with the support of Pakistan army.. both in the battle ground as well as cricket ground, we have blasted you to the core frequently.. whatever happening is a political tensions at the aftermath of pahalgam attack by pak terrorists..if such event did not occur, India would have watched this match just as one another match with any associate nation..thats the reason we despise the ICC and BCCI for making business out of peoples emotion..this tournament could have been postponed till the tension settled down, so that cricket can be watched as cricket..but these greedy people wants to milk money from us..

It’s because of idiots like you that this a political rivalry.

 

[PAKFAN12]

As @Mamoon say " They deserved this humiliation " when you play like This in the name of intent.

 

[chakdeindian]

People confuse sports rivalry

India-Pakistan sports rivalry is deeply rooted in a shared, complex, and often hostile history. It has little to do with the recent record or overall H2H between the teams.

No matter what they say publicly, given a choice between Australia and Pakistan, an Indian fan would not want to lose to Pakistan and vice versa

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You are confused about sports rivalry.. sports rivalry is always to do with the sports..

It’s because of idiots like you that this a political rivalry.

Says an Idiot..

It’s because of idiots like you that this a political rivalry.

Only an Idiot quotes others as idiot without posting any facts..as I said we don't consider you a rival nor a political rivalry..you are more an irritating mosquito that we like to beat everytime with a racket..

 

[Mamoon]

As @Mamoon say " They deserved this humiliation " when you play like This in the name of intent.

Making tall claims in pressers is one thing, but doing it on the pitch in the moment is another matter.

We can only run our mouths because we don’t have the talent and the skill to deliver on the pitch.

 

[gazza619]

As claimed by Pakistan with proof furnished that it's all over social media.

Except for the fact that cricket matches are broadcast live and are real, not fabricated on "social media".

U can't win matches with fabricated stories

Tui main dard hogaya?

Enjoy living in a fool’s paradise.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Tui main dard hogaya?

Enjoy living in a fool’s paradise.

Haha that is you brother.

 

[Devadwal]

Tui main dard hogaya?

Enjoy living in a fool’s paradise.

Perfectly sum-up reality of Pakistanis

 

[Mr.Q]

Extremely well said. He stated an obvious fact and it puts more pressure on the Pakistan team. The likes of Kohli always tried to please the fans in Pakistan as well, so could never say something like this. This is India’s era of dominance and there’s no denying that. Pakistan might win a match here and there but overall India will continue to be the superior, dominant team.

@Mamoon is absolutely right about Indian fans. Most of them are too meek and afraid of losing. Even if Pakistan reaches the final and somehow beats India, so what? That doesn’t change the bigger picture. There’s a reason why Pakistanis celebrate a victory against India so much. For them it’s a massive achievement. For us, beating them is normal and expected.

The rivalry of course exists for reasons outside cricket, but as the Indian cricket team captain, he made the right statement. Not a fan of his sarcastic approach to the media though. (C) stands for captain, not clown. He should show a tad bit more respect to that title.

 

[Rajdeep]

I am not a fan of SKYs tulleybazi in batting and the reason I call him Shoonya Kumar Yadav. But boy oh boy, did he rile up Pakistan or what on 2 consecutive sunday's.

Bro...has single handedly destroyed Pakistan off the field.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

I am not a fan of SKYs tulleybazi in batting and the reason I call him Shoonya Kumar Yadav. But boy oh boy, did he rile up Pakistan or what on 2 consecutive sunday's.

Bro...has single handedly destroyed Pakistan off the field.

Just doing bakchodi this tournament. Sent Arshdeep and Harshit above him vs Oman.

 

[Mamoon]

These comments should make the Pakistani players blood boil. They should be so fired up that they end up killing Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and then go to war with India in the final and beat them to give Surya a shut up call.

However, you can’t expect anything from cowards like Hesson and Agha and these crap players. They will fold vs India in the final if they end up fluking past Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

 

[Pakistan150-0]

Never trust on two people
1) Pakistan cricket team
2) Indian Air force

 

[Usman Chadda]

These comments should make the Pakistani players blood boil. They should be so fired up that they end up killing Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and then go to war with India in the final and beat them to give Surya a shut up call.

However, you can’t expect anything from cowards like Hesson and Agha and these crap players. They will fold vs India in the final if they end up fluking past Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

We are not fluking past both Sri Lanka or Bangladesh as they have played some good cricket in this tournament, while we have scrapped by associate teams and got two poundings by India.

Farhan saying 'we will meet India again in the final' is downright stupid and pretty much sums up the dumb nature of our players.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That's so weak

@Bhaijaan is getting old.

 

[Aami]

SKY ..this rivalry is more than the results and you know it.

If, and its a big IF, you find yourself losing a final to Pakistan next Sunday, the stat will still be irrelevant, however, the noises in your head and around you will remind you of the depth of this rivalry.

 

[guard]

You lot cosplay as Indians abroad so what does that make you lol.

Bull sheet, absolutely no one, i mean no one ever wanted to cOsPLay or whatever as an ind..

The fantasies of some is mind blowing

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

Bull sheet, absolutely no one, i mean no one ever wanted to cOsPLay or whatever as an ind..

The fantasies of some is mind blowing

Tell that to all the "Indian" restaurants around the world lol.

 

[TexasRattlesnake]

SKY ..this rivalry is more than the results and you know it.

If, and its a big IF, you find yourself losing a final to Pakistan next Sunday, the stat will still be irrelevant, however, the noises in your head and around you will remind you of the depth of this rivalry.

Always putting the cart before the horse.

First get into the final.

I remember in 23 WC, Pakistanis after the NZ game were already planning strategies for the Kolkata semi vs India lol.

 

[straighttalk]

He’s speaking facts, is SKY.

Except that that it’s not just facts, Gautam Gambhir & co are playing the role of puppet masters, with a non cricket agenda, and forcing a weak captain to politicise a charged situation.

The way he was smiling and said things calmly..it didn't look forced

 

[jnaveen1980]

The beauty of sport is that it usually finds a way to humble you.

Yea.. As a captain i would never say such things even against Oman team. I think it is more to do with outside issues rather than cricket itself. There is no more virat kohli in the side. So it is going to be different from here on. But they rarely meet each other these days. This is a rare occasion where they are likely to play 3 matches if both qualify.

 

[HalBass9]

Extremely well said. He stated an obvious fact and it puts more pressure on the Pakistan team. The likes of Kohli always tried to please the fans in Pakistan as well, so could never say something like this. This is India’s era of dominance and there’s no denying that. Pakistan might win a match here and there but overall India will continue to be the superior, dominant team.

@Mamoon is absolutely right about Indian fans. Most of them are too meek and afraid of losing. Even if Pakistan reaches the final and somehow beats India, so what? That doesn’t change the bigger picture. There’s a reason why Pakistanis celebrate a victory against India so much. For them it’s a massive achievement. For us, beating them is normal and expected.

The rivalry of course exists for reasons outside cricket, but as the Indian cricket team captain, he made the right statement. Not a fan of his sarcastic approach to the media though. (C) stands for captain, not clown. He should show a tad bit more respect to that title.

If it is normal and expected then India shouldn't be losing the final.

 

[Adnan_Ilyas]

India has been leagues ahead Pakistan for a while now. Gotta agree with Yadav

 

[HalBass9]

This isn’t about whether it’s labeled a rivalry, it’s about what it represents.. But if we look at history, Pakistan held the upper hand throughout the 80s and 90s, World Cups being the notable exception.

It’s understandable that some Indian fans prefer to dismiss the idea of a rivalry altogether, especially in the current climate. Over time, political narratives have influenced perceptions, and for many, that has shaped how they view anything related to Pakistan.

But let’s be honest, when India plays Pakistan, the energy is different. The anticipation, the pressure, the reactions, it all means more. A loss to any other team stings, but a loss to Pakistan lingers.

That, in itself, speaks volumes. Had the result gone the other way by even 30 runs, the conversation would feel very different right now.

 

[Boyka]

You lot cosplay as Indians abroad so what does that make you lol.

Cosplay as Indians

Indians and making things up. If you repeat something enough times it doesn’t become true.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Y

Doesn’t seem like I’m in the minuscule minority anymore @cricketjoshila

You are trying to to find support against India on a Pakistani forum. Good that you got some

 

[JaDed]

Y

You are trying to to find support against India on a Pakistani forum. Good that you got some

You answered me twice for some reason.. and no I’m not.. but i understand you have become binary, you are with us or against us.

 

[HalBass9]

Y

You are trying to to find support against India on a Pakistani forum. Good that you got some

Against India? How so? He has criticized a player, not India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Cosplay as Indians

Indians and making things up. If you repeat something enough times it doesn’t become true.

Tell this to reuters

Pakistanis pose as Indians after NY bomb scare

Pakistani merchants and job seekers in the United States, still reeling from economic hardship since the September 11 attacks of 2001, are posing as Indians to avoid discrimination in the wake of the Times Square bomb attempt.

www.reuters.com

 

[cricketjoshila]

Against India? How so? He has criticized a player, not India.

Indian player and Indian team

Anything against India likely to find support in pakistan.

You answered me twice for some reason.. and no I’m not.. but i understand you have become binary, you are with us or against us.

What with us or against us?

Sky has received little criticism in India

So you are trying to justify your criticism of sky by mentioning pakistsnis

 

[cricketjoshila]

This isn’t about whether it’s labeled a rivalry, it’s about what it represents.. But if we look at history, Pakistan held the upper hand throughout the 80s and 90s, World Cups being the notable exception.

It’s understandable that some Indian fans prefer to dismiss the idea of a rivalry altogether, especially in the current climate. Over time, political narratives have influenced perceptions, and for many, that has shaped how they view anything related to Pakistan.

But let’s be honest, when India plays Pakistan, the energy is different. The anticipation, the pressure, the reactions, it all means more. A loss to any other team stings, but a loss to Pakistan lingers.

That, in itself, speaks volumes. Had the result gone the other way by even 30 runs, the conversation would feel very different right now.

There’s political rivalry but little cricketing rivalry in last few years

Cricketing rivalry is ashes its pure sports rivalry no political angle

 

[Boyka]

Tell this to reuters

Pakistanis pose as Indians after NY bomb scare

Pakistani merchants and job seekers in the United States, still reeling from economic hardship since the September 11 attacks of 2001, are posing as Indians to avoid discrimination in the wake of the Times Square bomb attempt.

www.reuters.com

This article is as ancient as your mindset.

Do you know the meaning of cosplay? Pick up a dictionary, improve your English and come back.

Nobody cosplays as an Indian, nobody. Stop it. The hatred towards Indians is growing since Modi came to power. Wake up.

 

[guard]

Cosplay as Indians

Indians and making things up. If you repeat something enough times it doesn’t become true.

Let them live in the alt universe ..

 

[JaDed]

What with us or against us?

Sky has received little criticism in India

So you are trying to justify your criticism of sky by mentioning pakistsnis

India is a lot of people you are stereotyping an opinion of many people.. I know many in south that don’t agree with his shenanigans.
As i said before he is trying to over correct himself after his meeting with Naqvi..

 

[cricketjoshila]

This article is as ancient as your mindset.

Do you know the meaning of cosplay? Pick up a dictionary, improve your English and come back.

Nobody cosplays as an Indian, nobody. Stop it. The hatred towards Indians is growing since Modi came to power. Wake up.

This was. 2010 so pakisatanis did identify themselves as Indians then but you dismissed the idea totally


India has become more assertive under Modi and isn’t willing to to surrender its interests for other countries. So some dis agreement is bound to to happen.our interest lies with israel andrussia if some people hste us for that so be it

 

[cricketjoshila]

India is a lot of people you are stereotyping an opinion of many people.. I know many in south that don’t agree with his shenanigans.
As i said before he is trying to over correct himself after his meeting with Naqvi..

Show me where in India was sky criticised if at all?

 

[charlie007]

Sky should score some runs for a change and not indulge in this political nonsense.

The way he got dismissed for nought on a harmless delivery had me seething and then without a care in world, he just marched towards team dugout, chewing on his quite visible bubble-gum. That was helluva ugly.

You want to be seen as reincarnation of Viv Richards but I never saw bubble-gum showing out of Viv's mouth.

Because Viv chewed chewing gum not bubble gum

 

[JaDed]

Show me where in India was sky criticised if at all?

You will call them congressi.. and that’s fine its ok, everyone agrees and Im a minuscule minority.

 

[Mirpuri Don]

The rivalry began to unravel in the mid or late 2000s I think, when India was beginning to see Aus more as a rival, at least in Tests (in the shorter formats Pak was still there).

In the early 2010s it virtually waned and there was not much organic hype (not taking media) about that series that Pak had eventually won (where Junaid Khan shone).

It’s manufactured by the media to generate revenue there’s not the feel you attach for ex with the Ashes, especially as rivalry is done in competitive but respectful mood while Indo/Pak clashes because of politics have evolved into something nastier.

 

[Red-Indian]

Yea.. As a captain i would never say such things even against Oman team. I think it is more to do with outside issues rather than cricket itself. There is no more virat kohli in the side. So it is going to be different from here on. But they rarely meet each other these days. This is a rare occasion where they are likely to play 3 matches if both qualify.

We're definitely going to have a fall and drop a game one of these days...just hope it's not in the final. The level of confidence in India on winning these games against Pakistan is absurd - bordering on arrogance. We just can't maintain THIS level of dominance even if we are the far better team. Just by sheer bad luck, we're going to lose the odd game.

 

[DTrump]

The game is too sanitized.
A bit of needle should be appreciated.

The onus is on Pakistan. Let's see what they can do. Right now, they are being toyed and mocked by a dangerous predator. Do they have any daleri?

 

[cricketjoshila]

The game is too sanitized.
A bit of needle should be appreciated.

The onus is on Pakistan. Let's see what they can do. Right now, they are being toyed and mocked by a dangerous predator. Do they have any daleri?

Without performance any needling looks clownish.

 

[jnaveen1980]

We're definitely going to have a fall and drop a game one of these days...just hope it's not in the final. The level of confidence in India on winning these games against Pakistan is absurd - bordering on arrogance. We just can't maintain THIS level of dominance even if we are the far better team. Just by sheer bad luck, we're going to lose the odd game.

Especially in T20 format it is impossible to win everything in sight. He should be more diplomatic.

 

[ataullah]

LOL, dominated India so much till 2010 that India won both the Test and ODI series in their tour to Pakistan in 2004, won both the Test and ODI series in Pakistan's tour to India in 2007.​

Pak won more head to heads. Test matches is above everything 12/9.

Also if u say icc events then is every pak india match not a world cup final in itself??? When it comes to this fixture no such thing as meaningless

 

[Devadwal]

Pak won more head to heads. Test matches is above everything 12/9.

Also if u say icc events then is every pak india match not a world cup final in itself??? When it comes to this fixture no such thing as meaningless

One 5 match test series is enough to overcome Pakistan head to head records.

Pakistan team is Minnows compared to India.

 

[DTrump]

Without performance any needling looks clownish.

He is the captain of the winning side.
Allowed to mouth off a bit

 

[Ali Active]

If india has made this statement then it should be backed up by winning asia cup .

 

[cricketjoshila]

We're definitely going to have a fall and drop a game one of these days...just hope it's not in the final. The level of confidence in India on winning these games against Pakistan is absurd - bordering on arrogance. We just can't maintain THIS level of dominance even if we are the far better team. Just by sheer bad luck, we're going to lose the odd game.

Let’s say we drop a game against Pakistan will it suddenly make this dead rivalry alive? No

 

[Hitman]

Pak won more head to heads. Test matches is above everything 12/9.

Also if u say icc events then is every pak india match not a world cup final in itself??? When it comes to this fixture no such thing as meaningless

The point is about the blatant lie that Pakistan dominated India till 2010.

 

[ataullah]

The point is about the blatant lie that Pakistan dominated India till 2010.

The point is about the blatant lie that Pakistan dominated India till 2010.

What's the head to head till that period? Depends how one defines dominance.

 

[Hitman]

What's the head to head till that period? Depends how one defines dominance.

Head to head is in Pakistan's favor in Tests and ODI's even now. That means Pakistan is dominating India now as well?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Y

You are trying to to find support against India on a Pakistani forum. Good that you got some

Joshili, what are you doing here then? Did you not find support against Pakistan on Indian forums?

 

[Red-Indian]

Let’s say we drop a game against Pakistan will it suddenly make this dead rivalry alive? No

As someone earlier said, we don't make statements like these even before games like Oman and that's even less of a rivalry.

Best to keep enjoying this period of utter dominance without overdoing the statements. Just say the normal platitudes, crush them in the game and get back to normal platitudes. It's very unlikely they'll be able to beat us more than a game or two in 10 but why tempt fate?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Because Viv chewed chewing gum not bubble gum

He won and he talked. Pakistanis are whining after losing

 

[cricketjoshila]

As someone earlier said, we don't make statements like these even before games like Oman and that's even less of a rivalry.

Best to keep enjoying this period of utter dominance without overdoing the statements. Just say the normal platitudes, crush them in the game and get back to normal platitudes. It's very unlikely they'll be able to beat us more than a game or two in 10 but why tempt fate?

He called a dead rivalry dead after winning the game nothing wrong there

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Rivalry is finished. India is dominant on the field and off the field the political stuff is finished. India is isolated and beaten, only able to appease their home populations, whereas Pakistan is responsible for regional security and it strength recognized by all global superpowers.

There is no common ground for rivalry. They have won at cricket whereas military far far behind according to all neutral obervers.

I implore Indian broadcasters to stop flogging this dead horse and Indian players should also realize that military defeat cannot be overturned on a cricket field. From the Pakistani side I would request our ex cricketers to tone it down too


Play the game as a normal game.

 

[Devadwal]

India humiliated Pakistan on and off field.

Rivalry is finished. India is dominant on the field and off the field the political stuff is finished. India is isolated and beaten, only able to appease their home populations, whereas Pakistan is responsible for regional security and it strength recognized by all global superpowers.

There is no common ground for rivalry. They have won at cricket whereas military far far behind according to all neutral obervers.

I implore Indian broadcasters to stop flogging this dead horse and Indian players should also realize that military defeat cannot be overturned on a cricket field. From the Pakistani side I would request our ex cricketers to tone it down too


Play the game as a normal game.

 

[ataullah]

One 5 match test series is enough to overcome Pakistan head to head records.

Pakistan team is Minnows compared to India.

They are now but we still ahead so long may that continue

 

[Mr.Q]

If it is normal and expected then India shouldn't be losing the final.

Not sure how that flew over your head. Your car is expected to start every time you press the start button, but it may not. India shouldn’t be losing the final but cricket is a sport. All three results are possible at the beginning of every match. So you look at the trend. If Pakistan gets to the final and beats India it’ll be an upset, but if India beats Pakistan, it’ll be a data point along the trend, therefore a normal result. Indians will celebrate due to it being a final of a tournament and for non cricketing reasons, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is the expected result and India has been the superior, dominant side.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Plz avoid political discussion here

 

[DeadlyVenom]

When Pakistan gets a rare win over India, it becomes a victory of Islam over Kafirs for them. Likes of Waqar Younis can openly say the best part of the win was Rizwan offering namaz in front of Hindus. And these people comes and lecture about keep sports as sports. Ha.

As I said, I am not a fan of Surya Kumar Yadav's batting and think his time is coming to an end. However, he is GOATED in my eyes for his actions alone in the past week. Modi ji should give him Bharat Ratna or something just to tease our pyare padosis more.

According to our educated US Indian @Local.Dada Vicky Bhai is an Aussie.

You can rely on him for education. He taught me Waqar was Aussie and what food stamps are. Clever guy.

 

[HalBass9]

Not sure how that flew over your head. Your car is expected to start every time you press the start button, but it may not. India shouldn’t be losing the final but cricket is a sport. All three results are possible at the beginning of every match. So you look at the trend. If Pakistan gets to the final and beats India it’ll be an upset, but if India beats Pakistan, it’ll be a data point along the trend, therefore a normal result. Indians will celebrate due to it being a final of a tournament and for non cricketing reasons, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is the expected result and India has been the superior, dominant side.

If you'd understand what you have written then you would stop arguing with yourself.

India is a top 3 team in the world.

Rivalry isn't just about who is dominating, it has many other factor.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Kyon ungli karta hai chintu. Kuch bolunga, mod delete karega. Chal stop squirming now from that b-hurt. Wannna biskoot?

Bro I don't know what this means.

Can you run another educational seminar so I can add it to your gems.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Sky shouldn’t even be in the team.

Let’s not forget that. We have far better players. He is a puppet captain.

Had Pandya not been so desperate to become India’s next permanent white-ball captain, he would likely be the white-ball, or at the very least the T20I, captain right now. But his willingness to become Mumbai Indians captain turned the fans against him. And BCCI either didn't want backlash, didn't like his attitude/desperation, or both. Because otherwise Pandya is the best choice to become India's white-ball captain right now.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If these players had any spine, they’d be furious about these comments and be motivated to reach the final and beat India. Otherwise, they’re nothing but a bunch of cowards.

 

[Mesozoic]

He literally stated facts lol.

If facts make you seethe uncontrollably like this, then there is seriously something wrong with your mentality.

 

[Mr.Q]

If you'd understand what you have written then you would stop arguing with yourself.

India is a top 3 team in the world.

Rivalry isn't just about who is dominating, it has many other factor.

Rivalry and enmity are two different things. It’s the enmity that makes winning important. In cricketing terms the rivalry is kinda dead. We used to be rivals, like Samsung and Nokia once were. We can call it a rivalry when Pakistan starts performing consistently well against India.

Don’t drag me into the OT forum bro. I don’t have the time. And if I did go there, I’d end up tearing down the false narratives you and your buddies have been building there for months .

 

[saabir]

That's sound very arrogant statement. U don't respect the opposition but he is stating the fact also. Trust me SKY is a very good, humble and easy going guy. I met him once. Jay Shah and Gambhir calling all the shorts to keep public back home happy. Public were demanding to boycott India Pak matches. They have to give them some lollypop to keep this politics going

 

[HalBass9]

Rivalry and enmity are two different things. It’s the enmity that makes winning important. In cricketing terms the rivalry is kinda dead. We used to be rivals, like Samsung and Nokia once were. We can call it a rivalry when Pakistan starts performing consistently well against India.

Don’t drag me into the OT forum bro. I don’t have the time. And if I did go there, I’d end up tearing down the false narratives you and your buddies have been building there for months .

Enmity is often a natural byproduct of rivalry, it fuels the competitive spirit and the desire to win. That’s exactly how it was when Pakistan regularly outplayed India in the '80s and '90s.

Let’s stay focused on the sport. If you can’t grasp the basic concept of rivalry, you won’t last long in the OT forum either. Start by understanding what’s actually being discussed.

 

[Mr.Q]

Enmity is often a natural byproduct of rivalry, it fuels the competitive spirit and the desire to win. That’s exactly how it was when Pakistan regularly outplayed India in the '80s and '90s.

Let’s stay focused on the sport. If you can’t grasp the basic concept of rivalry, you won’t last long in the OT forum either. Start by understanding what’s actually being discussed.

No, the enmity between India and Pakistan predates any sporting rivalry between them. I don’t think you’re understanding what I mean, so let’s drop it here.

 

[ChennaiFan]

There is no rivalry now. There are tensions between the two countries and the media is using it fool the audience.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Even if Pakistan goes on to win this Asia Cup, we cannot call it as a rivalry as the current Pakistan team needs to become consistent performers to be ranked among the top tier teams in cricket.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Good from Surya. Pakistani cricketers need to be given verbal belt treatment irrespective of whether we win or lose against them. Every.. single..time. The relationship has changed now for good.

 

[BouncerGuy]

IF YOU GUYS CAN TALK ABOUT CRICKET, THEN WELL AND GOOD; OTHERWISE YOU GUYS CAN LEAVE THE THREAD CLEAN FOR OTHERS WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC HERE.