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Where do Yadav-Chahal rank among the most lethal spin-bowling duo in LOI cricket ever?

Usman Chadda said:
Wonder why Siddharth Kaul gets picked if there are 140+ kph bowlers in every domestic team
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Exactly. He is bowling in low 130s in England right now. Its a disgrace.

There is only real pacer in that side and that is Yadav who bowls at 135 kph average speed.

So technically we dont have a pace attack.
 
Once again out bowled by Rashid.

Not only he hasn't taken any wickets but didnt get the turn Rashid was being offered.

Has a lot more to prove yet.
 
India's KulCha is too hot & spicy for World Cricket

Kuldeep Yadav & Yuzuvender Chahal - Take a bow! :bow:

Two absolute match winners.

They paved the way for India winning 5-1 in South Africa and have been the backbone of India's LOI teams from last 2 years.

Both are capable of takign 5+ wickets on their day which is the ultimate proof of match winning LOI bowlers.

India must play them TOGETHER for when their forces unite the KulCha is too hot and spicy!
 
A good game for Kulcha brothers!

They are very crucial for India's chances.
 
The KulCha has been unleashed in their first ever global tournament.

Let’s see how they fare
 
They rank at the top. Their pace to bowl is amazing. They give the ball ample time to drift and flight, which invites the batsman to score a big shot and get them out. They are just wonderful
 
The best ever maybe? Have we ever seen such a lethal pair of spinners ever in ODI cricket? They routinely obliterate all batting lineups, everywhere. I have seen dangerous pace pairs but not spin.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
The best ever maybe? Have we ever seen such a lethal pair of spinners ever in ODI cricket? They routinely obliterate all batting lineups, everywhere. I have seen dangerous pace pairs but not spin.
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I feel the same

I can’t recall a spin combination obliterate batting line ups in ODIs like the way they have ever since they got unleashed.

It remains to this date Kohli’s biggest masterstroke as captain, replacing Ashwin-Jadeja with KulCha. Huge move it was which delivered royally for Indian cricket.

KulCha ranks alongside the Two Ws, Walsh/Ambrose
 
freelance_cricketer said:
I feel the same

I can’t recall a spin combination obliterate batting line ups in ODIs like the way they have ever since they got unleashed.

It remains to this date Kohli’s biggest masterstroke as captain, replacing Ashwin-Jadeja with KulCha. Huge move it was which delivered royally for Indian cricket.

KulCha ranks alongside the Two Ws, Walsh/Ambrose
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Well there's also McGrath and Lee
 
Another one for Chahal.

KulCha have already contributed 4 wickets in this game.
 
Flight n drift they give to the White ball is amazing. They don't look to defend but for wickets all the time 👍
 
KulCha contributes 5th wicket of the match.

Chahal has been exceptional today
 
hur rizvi said:
On a lighter note
😁
Hopefully Pakistan will eat kulcha for breakfast
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Hopefully you won’t realise the chillies we put in them before :yk

India’s best chances are if Pakistanis take the KulCha invite and go after them!
 
Who are they even competing against? Spin bowling duo are rare can't remember any maybe Ashwin jaddu? But they were more successful in tests.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Who are they even competing against? Spin bowling duo are rare can't remember any maybe Ashwin jaddu? But they were more successful in tests.
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Interesting.

Kumble Bhajji didn’t play a lot together in ODIs.

Same wth Saqlain and Mushy
 
Chahal and Kuldeep are future greats with Kuldeep being a slightly better bowler than Chahal.

They have amazing control and variations.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Interesting.

Kumble Bhajji didn’t play a lot together in ODIs.

Same wth Saqlain and Mushy
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Yup I don't think their have been any spin bowling duo like KulCha before.
Basically earlier teams used to play 1 spinner and get 10 overs from part time spinners while playing 3 fast bowlers.

The closest that comes is Murali and Jayasuriya they played for long time however they weren't a duo per say. They were players in same team and played always together.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Yup I don't think their have been any spin bowling duo like KulCha before.
Basically earlier teams used to play 1 spinner and get 10 overs from part time spinners while playing 3 fast bowlers.

The closest that comes is Murali and Jayasuriya they played for long time however they weren't a duo per say. They were players in same team and played always together.
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Murali and Dharmasena played a bit together.

I am surprised that despite having two of the best spinners - that too an offie and a leggie in Mushy and Saqlain - Pakistan did not play them together much.

Could someone post stats of how many matches they played together and how did they fair?

Could a Pakistani fan elaborate on why they were not played in Asia?
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Interesting.

Kumble Bhajji didn’t play a lot together in ODIs.

Same wth Saqlain and Mushy
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Yup I don't think their have been any spin bowling duo like KulCha before.
Basically earlier teams used to play 1 spinner and get 10 overs from part time spinners while playing 3 fast bowlers.

The closest that comes is Murali and Jayasuriya they played for long time however they weren't a duo per say. They were players in same team and played always together.
 
Sidilicious said:
Murali and Dharmasena played a bit together.

I am surprised that despite having two of the best spinners - that too an offie and a leggie in Mushy and Saqlain - Pakistan did not play them together much.

Could someone post stats of how many matches they played together and how did they fair?

Could a Pakistani fan elaborate on why they were not played in Asia?
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A talented pace battery plus Afridi’s emergence as a reliable spin AR meant Pakistan could only accommodate one of Saqi and Mushy.
 
Sidilicious said:
Murali and Dharmasena played a bit together.

I am surprised that despite having two of the best spinners - that too an offie and a leggie in Mushy and Saqlain - Pakistan did not play them together much.

Could someone post stats of how many matches they played together and how did they fair?

Could a Pakistani fan elaborate on why they were not played in Asia?
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Yes but dharamsena was mostly a containing second string to Murali. But then again Murali was one of the best spinners ever if not the best so anyone would have been in support role.

I think times were different that time. With the advent of T20 and variations spinners developed over the years now teams are realising important of spinners. So all teams are going for more spinners.

Basically earlier the par score was low and batsmen used to just take singles and hit bad balls of spinners for boundaries. Now par score is higher so batsman take more risks and that's where spinners with variations become vital to take wickets in middle order.
 
Afghanistan probably are nearest.

Rashid + Nabi + Mujeeb make for a great spinning bowling attack.

Bangladesh also have had good spin attacks
 
I"ve only seen them play yesterday for the first time. They are very good. Also saw rashid khan bowl in a odi for first time against pak.
2 questions-
1. Which is the better pair, the indian spin twins or rashid and nabi?
2. Pakistan dont have a rashid type bowler or a chinaman, but am sure we have spinners on par with these guys, but unfortunately, not selected -
Umer khan, zafar gohar, M. asghar, usama mir etc. What do pak fans think?
 
I feel Chahal is something special for ODI cricket probably only tahir can compare to him. I dont rate kuldeep as much I would probably play Jadeja over Kuldeep.
 
Captain caveman said:
I"ve only seen them play yesterday for the first time. They are very good. Also saw rashid khan bowl in a odi for first time against pak.
2 questions-
1. Which is the better pair, the indian spin twins or rashid and nabi?
2. Pakistan dont have a rashid type bowler or a chinaman, but am sure we have spinners on par with these guys, but unfortunately, not selected -
Umer khan, zafar gohar, M. asghar, usama mir etc. What do pak fans think?
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India have ditched spin bowling all-rounders (Ashwin and Jadeja) for superior spinners, who are not expected to contribute with the bat. Kuldeep can bat a bit, but he cannot be classified as an all-rounder like Ashwin or Jadeja. Chahal though is a complete bunny with the bat.

This is an important lesson for the Pakistani selectors and management - bowlers should be picked first and foremost for their bowling ability, and not how they fare with the bat. Batting depth is pointless if it compromises the quality of your bowling. Pakistan wasted two years on Faheem Ashraf and now they are repeating the same mistake with their spinners.

If you have 6 quality batsmen and 4 quality bowlers, you don't need more than 1 all-rounder. That is what India have done. Pandya is the only player who has been picked for his all-round ability.

For two years, Pakistan played Imad, Shadab and Faheem together, which was a recipe for disaster. Moving forward, only one of them has to be in the team.
 
Pakhs said:
I feel Chahal is something special for ODI cricket probably only tahir can compare to him. I dont rate kuldeep as much I would probably play Jadeja over Kuldeep.
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I got the same feeling watching them yesterday.
Pak have to be careful with this chahal guy.
Whose better chahal or rashid?
I think rashid khan.
 
Captain caveman said:
I got the same feeling watching them yesterday.
Pak have to be careful with this chahal guy.
Whose better chahal or rashid?
I think rashid khan.
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Kuldeep is good but I think jadeja can do the same job plus batting. Pakistan will have to play chahal and Bumrah carefully I will aim for 4 an over from these two and whatever else we get is a bonus. But for now Pakistan have to worry about other games.
 
Mamoon said:
India have ditched spin bowling all-rounders (Ashwin and Jadeja) for superior spinners, who are not expected to contribute with the bat. Kuldeep can bat a bit, but he cannot be classified as an all-rounder like Ashwin or Jadeja. Chahal though is a complete bunny with the bat.

This is an important lesson for the Pakistani selectors and management - bowlers should be picked first and foremost for their bowling ability, and not how they fare with the bat. Batting depth is pointless if it compromises the quality of your bowling. Pakistan wasted two years on Faheem Ashraf and now they are repeating the same mistake with their spinners.

If you have 6 quality batsmen and 4 quality bowlers, you don't need more than 1 all-rounder. That is what India have done. Pandya is the only player who has been picked for his all-round ability.

For two years, Pakistan played Imad, Shadab and Faheem together, which was a recipe for disaster. Moving forward, only one of them has to be in the team.
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Chahal's batting is so bad that he has made his career ambition to hit a six in an international match. :)))
 
Kuldeep is a disaster waiting to happen. A mental midget with no clue what to do when batsmen go after him. His novelty factor has worn off. I would go with Jadeja for his superior batting, fielding and minimum guarantee bowling.
 
WengerOut said:
Kuldeep is a disaster waiting to happen. A mental midget with no clue what to do when batsmen go after him. His novelty factor has worn off. I would go with Jadeja for his superior batting, fielding and minimum guarantee bowling.
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Way to go in backing a young talent.

I hope no one in the management has a cowardly and irresponsible mindset as you.
 
Kuldeep gets two set batsmen or just when it seemed the Pakistanis has started to dominate them.

Wonderful stuff.

Well done Kullu!!

Now Chahal needs to get a few
 
This change happened coz CT, thank GOD atleast we improvised a lil and two spinners in the ranks to take up the place.
 
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2nd time babar got out to kuldeep. bowled both time. beaten in flight and exposed stumps
 
After World Cup blip, Chahal spins way into India hearts

During the post-selection press conference for the Bangladesh series, chief selector MSK Prasad’s comments that his committee “wanted to try out Yuzvendra Chahal” came as a surprise as Chahal, along with chinaman bowler Kuldeep Yadav, had been India’s mainstays for the last couple of years.

They had often separated India from the rest, making the difference when it mattered. But that effectiveness fell apart at the World Cup as both proved ineffective with Yadav subsequently losing his spot in the squad. Their situation was somewhat similar to that of R Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja, who were dropped after the loss to Pakistan in the 2017 Champion Trophy final with India backing wrist spin ahead of finger spinners.

With the T20 World Cup approaching, the team management has tried out spinners Washington Sundar, Krunal Pandya and Rahul Chahar as well with Jadeja also back in the fray.

Chahal has proved in this series that he can be a match-winner. In the second T20 in Rajkot played on a batting wicket, he stifled Bangladesh batsmen and dismissed the experienced Soumya Sarkar and Mushfiqur Rahim, claiming 2/28.

With almost a year to go for the T20 World Cup in Australia, Chahal and Jadeja look ahead in the race for places in the squad. “Chahal is an important cog in the wheel. He has proved that in this series and (showed) how important he can be in the middle overs,” stand-in skipper Rohit Sharma said.

“He exactly knows what the batsman is trying to do. He’s basically trying to stay ahead of the game, ahead of the batsman. That makes him a little more challenging for any batsman.”

Only the selectors and team management know whether Chahal was overlooked or rested after the World Cup. However, he has risen to become the third-highest wicket-taker in T20s for India, and also has the best strike-rate for a spinner in the format.

Chahal will get another opportunity to display his skills on a Nagpur pitch that won’t be as batsman-friendly as Rajkot.

With the series on the line, India can’t afford any mistakes by the bowlers. Barring Chahal, the bowling is a little thin on experience, especially with pacers Khaleel Ahmed and Deepak Chahar having played only a few matches. While Chahar has bowled well, Ahmed has gone for 81 runs in the first two matches.

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It is learnt Shardul Thakur may be chosen for Sunday’s series decider at the Vidarbha Cricket Association ground here. While Thakur went full tilt in the nets, left-arm pacer Ahmed worked on sharpening his bowling around the wicket under the supervision of bowling coach Bharat Arun.

Sharma doesn’t want to put pressure on his bowlers, and wants to use these matches to assess their abilities.

“This is the right time for them to learn. We always say you should play domestic cricket and learn. But I feel that till you play international cricket, you won’t know where you stand as a bowler.

“We have seen that in this format when you have one or two bad games you can come under pressure and are not able to execute your skills. But this is the time for these bowlers to understand their bowling and execute their skills fearlessly. They will only learn by playing more games. You need to trust your skills, only then will you get results in the future.”

Bangladesh coach Russell Domingo wants his batsmen to put pressure on India’s inexperienced bowling. “It’s no secret that they have got a reasonably inexperienced bowling attack. If we bat well and stick to our strategies, we can put their bowling under pressure.”
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Is Yuzvendra Chahal is most overrated spinner in Indian cricket history?

His lack of variation and beating batsman's defence has cost crucial matches to India (WC semifinal). He usually takes wicket when batsman is over attacking or looking for 15-20 runs in his over.
 
Chahal has been atrocious for quite a while now.

I saw his bowling today and while he was unlucky to have catches been dropped a couple of times...he was lucky that his pies weren't deposited on the stands.
 
Hope some genuine leg spinner emerges for India ...or is he already there ? Tired of overrated chahal. And also seems the mystery of kuldeep is on the wane or getting found out..?
 
What's happened to these two? Couple of years back these two where blowing teams away. Hyped up to be the next best spin twins. Sadly both have fallen away and struggling now. What's changed?? Is it the pitches? Have they been found out??
 
Kashmirilion said:
What's happened to these two? Couple of years back these two where blowing teams away. Hyped up to be the next best spin twins. Sadly both have fallen away and struggling now. What's changed?? Is it the pitches? Have they been found out??
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Kuldeep doesn't know to bowl quicker and Chahal's go to trick after getting hit for a boundary is throwing it wide which has become predictable for batsmen.
 
Rana said:
That was something special today...
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Not everyone is mediocre like Babar. He still won’t have a clue against Kuldeep just like he didn’t two years ago.

The English batsmen are brutal and you virtually have no margin of error against them. Stokes is a phenomenal player and got hold of him but it doesn’t change the fact that Kuldeep is a special talent.
 
Mamoon said:
Not everyone is mediocre like Babar. He still won’t have a clue against Kuldeep just like he didn’t two years ago.

The English batsmen are brutal and you virtually have no margin of error against them. Stokes is a phenomenal player and got hold of him but it doesn’t change the fact that Kuldeep is a special talent.
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Kuldeep will be playing club cricket in England 2022. One of the most special overseas talents in club cricket history
 
Kuldeep has been badly dealt with. Chahal gets tonked every other match. But he does have match winning spells. He is no Rashid Khan.

Both Kuli and Chahal are one trick ponies. They can only bowl. Their places are under threat and to a large extent have been taken by the likes of Washi, Jaddu and Axar in Limited over Cricket. Unless you learn how to hold a bat and hit maximums, the place is never secured.
 
In today's times, against top oppositions, you need to have the talent of a Rashid Khan to survive forget thrive. Only other spinner who's been consistent is Imad. I don't know why Pakistan dropped him. I don't think spinners in general have a lot of hope in the shorter format. All the Pandyas and Axars will also get destroyed every now and then.

Jadeja and Ashwin are also not the solution. Especially the latter, who should stay away from LOIs and focus on tests where he is an ATG in making.
 
Mamoon said:
Not everyone is mediocre like Babar. He still won’t have a clue against Kuldeep just like he didn’t two years ago.

The English batsmen are brutal and you virtually have no margin of error against them. Stokes is a phenomenal player and got hold of him but it doesn’t change the fact that Kuldeep is a special talent.
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I agree with the part about Stokes, and that Babar right now isn't as fluent with spin as he'd like to be. But Kuldeep is being over-rated. I've been observing his bowling, and his regression is extreme. He is being picked and is being tonked over the park for fun.

The moment a wrist spinner tosses it up on a flat pitch, and also bowls as slow as Kuldeep, they are asking to be hit. His variations aren't coming out nicely, and he has been dispatched today. He needs to be dropped, he is not converting his talent into performance.

However, I will add that he is a fine spin prospect, better than any spinner in Pakistan at the moment (ODI, T20s). Both Kuldeep and Chahal are performing rather poorly, so India need to figure out what the issue is. A break would do both of them good, and the IPL will be extremely important as well. Rahul Chahar is next in line, and he should be given an opportunity from my standpoint.

Kuldeep seriously needs to work on his bowling. He is being demolished nowadays.
 
Both have been exposed

Ashwin is still the baap of all Indian spinners. Just because Fakhar Zaman played a fluke innings, India were too quick to discard him.
 
Mobashir said:
You can see the bias.
Maybe you meant Chahal is bad but Yadav is specially bad.
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This is why I sincerely hope that our Indian brothers on this forum do not use Mamoon as a reference scholar when it comes to his exaggerated views on Indian Cricketers, especially when those views are fuelled with a unnecessary hatred towards Pakistani players.
 
Rana said:
This is why I sincerely hope that our Indian brothers on this forum do not use Mamoon as a reference scholar when it comes to his exaggerated views on Indian Cricketers, especially when those views are fuelled with a unnecessary hatred towards Pakistani players.
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Amazing how there is no fluency or continuity in his views. He will consider other same level spinners as the worst thing in the world and Yadav as special.
Yadav is nothing but specialy bad.

India has no limited over spinner. Again shows the lack of talent. After so many years, their best LOI spinner is still Jadeja.
 
Mobashir said:
Amazing how there is no fluency or continuity in his views. He will consider other same level spinners as the worst thing in the world and Yadav as special.
Yadav is nothing but specialy bad.

India has no limited over spinner. Again shows the lack of talent. After so many years, their best LOI spinner is still Jadeja.
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He tried to justify how Stokes getting a hold of him doesn’t change the fact that Kuldeep is a phenomenal talent.

I doubt he saw the game, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Because if he did, then his comment about Stokes getting a hold of him is extremely poor.

Kuldeep bowled pure garbage, absolute trash. Half trackers tonked for six, bowling loopy balls in the slot tonked for six, and he continues to bowl those pies into the batsmen’s arc ball after ball. His bowling was extremely poor, and Stokes was just doing what he does in a casual training session. No effort needed to whatsoever. To top it off, the guy is a garbage fielder and where is this ‘occasional batting ability’ that he apparently has?
 
Rana said:
He tried to justify how Stokes getting a hold of him doesn’t change the fact that Kuldeep is a phenomenal talent.

I doubt he saw the game, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Because if he did, then his comment about Stokes getting a hold of him is extremely poor.

Kuldeep bowled pure garbage, absolute trash. Half trackers tonked for six, bowling loopy balls in the slot tonked for six, and he continues to bowl those pies into the batsmen’s arc ball after ball. His bowling was extremely poor, and Stokes was just doing what he does in a casual training session. No effort needed to whatsoever. To top it off, the guy is a garbage fielder and where is this ‘occasional batting ability’ that he apparently has?
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Everyone is getting hold of gim these days. It's actually surprising to be so poor in international cricket.
Over the past two years he averages 58 at an economy of near 6.
 
Kuldeep is a brilliant bowler but he is horribly out of form. He needs time out of the spotlight. India should try another spinner in the next LO series.
 
Mobashir said:
When was the last time he was in form?
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I don't think he has recovered since that 2019 WC match against England. He was taken to the cleaners and has not recovered since. I think he needs time away to get some confidence back. His body language right now is not great.
 
Hasan123 said:
I don't think he has recovered since that 2019 WC match against England. He was taken to the cleaners and has not recovered since. I think he needs time away to get some confidence back. His body language right now is not great.
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Ok thanks!
We actually agree on many points. He has been rubish since 2 years, so more than half of his career.
He did get a year out between feb 20 and march 21, but that isn't enough, he needs more time away.
How much time? 2-3 years will be good?
 
street cricketer said:
Kuldeep doesn't know to bowl quicker and Chahal's go to trick after getting hit for a boundary is throwing it wide which has become predictable for batsmen.
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Seems as if both have forgotten how to bowl. When things was going right for them they looked amazing. KULCHA was this new bowling partnership everyone was hyped about. What I don't understand how could they be so bad now. Is it possible the novelty factor wore out just like mendis from SL? do you think there's a chance they will return to the best or have they both been poor for too long to have any hope?


There in not one spinner in ODI cricket who we can say is world class and can single handedly win matches. Yes there's are some in T20 but odi cricket is the real test of spinners out of the two shorter formats.
 
Kuldeep and Chahal got found out. They bowl very slow so their bowling is essentially about deceiving the batsmen. And in this day and age (especially in limited-overs cricket) you can only do that for so long before the batsmen watch the videos, deconstruct you and take you the cleaners.

You need something extra to be successful. Just variations can't cut it anymore.

The best example of a perfect limited-overs spinner is Rashid Khan. Even if you watch endless videos of him there's nothing that can prepare you for the experience of actually playing him. Why? Because he is a multi-dimensional bowler. He doesn't just use variations but he can also bowl quick and even be skiddy on occasion. In certain respects he reminds me of Afridi who was also successful for such a long period of time for similar reasons.
 
Mamoon said:
Not everyone is mediocre like Babar. He still won’t have a clue against Kuldeep just like he didn’t two years ago.

The English batsmen are brutal and you virtually have no margin of error against them. Stokes is a phenomenal player and got hold of him but it doesn’t change the fact that Kuldeep is a special talent.
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Kuldeep would be lucky to be in the Indian playing eleven by then, let alone get a chance to bowl at Babar.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Kuldeep and Chahal got found out. They bowl very slow so their bowling is essentially about deceiving the batsmen. And in this day and age (especially in limited-overs cricket) you can only do that for so long before the batsmen watch the videos, deconstruct you and take you the cleaners.

You need something extra to be successful. Just variations can't cut it anymore.

The best example of a perfect limited-overs spinner is Rashid Khan. Even if you watch endless videos of him there's nothing that can prepare you for the experience of actually playing him. Why? Because he is a multi-dimensional bowler. He doesn't just use variations but he can also bowl quick and even be skiddy on occasion. In certain respects he reminds me of Afridi who was also successful for such a long period of time for similar reasons.
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Both of them are severely out of match practice. Kuldeep has hardly played matches in last few months.
 
According to a poster here, Shadab is a rubbish bowler because the Indian batsmen don’t think much of him,

I guess the same applies for Kuldeep who the English batsmen cannot seem to take seriously at all!
 
Rana said:
According to a poster here, Shadab is a rubbish bowler because the Indian batsmen don’t think much of him,

I guess the same applies for Kuldeep who the English batsmen cannot seem to take seriously at all!
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On the contrary, I think English batsmen think about him alot. They think about how they are going target him in the match. I mean that is the impression I get from the way they have been smashing him to the stands lately.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
On the contrary, I think English batsmen think about him alot. They think about how they are going target him in the match. I mean that is the impression I get from the way they have been smashing him to the stands lately.
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They are clearly worried about the psychological impact they have inflicted on Kuldeep because he was supposed to be ‘something special’. Each free swing from the bat of the English batsmen comes with sincere sympathy for the man, also the pain that he suffers whilst the game is stopped for 3-5 minutes each time in order to retrieve the cricket ball from the stands or the car park outside.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Kuldeep would be lucky to be in the Indian playing eleven by then, let alone get a chance to bowl at Babar.
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Considering how clueless Babar and other Pakistani batsmen are against spinners with variations, you would expect Kuldeep to make an impact even when he is in atrocious form.

But then again, India can beat full-strength Pakistan with their U-19 players 9 out of 10 times, so you are right they may not need to select Kuldeep.
 
Mamoon said:
Considering how clueless Babar and other Pakistani batsmen are against spinners with variations, you would expect Kuldeep to make an impact even when he is in atrocious form.

But then again, India can beat full-strength Pakistan with their U-19 players 9 out of 10 times, so you are right they may not need to select Kuldeep.
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Wow, what a great post! Surely that makes Yadav special.

Yadav is rubbish and your propaganda yo over-rate Indian players is also rubbish.

Chahal has an economy rate of 8.4 in T20's, now find me another one with that kind of economy rates.

Imad Wasim, who isn't a world beater himself is better than any Indian spinner in T20's.


Sundar
Axar
Yadav
Krunal
Chahal

They really have have a factory of poor spinners.
 
Mobashir said:
Wow, what a great post! Surely that makes Yadav special.

Yadav is rubbish and your propaganda yo over-rate Indian players is also rubbish.

Chahal has an economy rate of 8.4 in T20's, now find me another one with that kind of economy rates.

Imad Wasim, who isn't a world beater himself is better than any Indian spinner in T20's.


Sundar
Axar
Yadav
Krunal
Chahal

They really have have a factory of poor spinners.
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If you are talking about t2ois the you are right, wasim is better than our spinners.
In odis Chahl has an avg of 27 with economy 5.2 that is better than any other spinner operating currently.
The overrated Adil Rashid avgs 32 at 5.6 .

Also Sundar is a good t20 bowler, his econ is 7.2, which i think is good enough for a spinner these days
 
India policy to move away from the only two decent spinner they had has not worked. Ashwin and Jadega would have served them a lot better than the hit me all day along spinners Kuldeep and Chahal. Jadega atleast hopefully will get right back in team once fit.
Pace bowling is also pretty weak without Bumrah. Bhuvi is not much of wicket taking threat. Indian bowlers should thank their batsmen for giving them mammoth score to defend.
 
Anyone who wants to practice a free swing of the bat in order to perfect their six hitting ability should invest in hiring Kuldeep Yadav simply as a net bowler in franchise cricket.

He is something special when it comes to this talent.
 
Although Kuldeep has been absolutely terrible for the last 2 years, we shouldn’t be getting all excited considering our premier limited over leg spinner is yet to take a 5 wicket haul, averages 32.34 against top 8 teams and doesn’t even consider himself to be a full time leg spinner. Kinda sad that our standards are so low that we celebrate the failures of other cricketers
 
Abdurmirr said:
Although Kuldeep has been absolutely terrible for the last 2 years, we shouldn’t be getting all excited considering our premier limited over leg spinner is yet to take a 5 wicket haul, averages 32.34 against top 8 teams and doesn’t even consider himself to be a full time leg spinner. Kinda sad that our standards are so low that we celebrate the failures of other cricketers
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Beautiful post.

Our fans have been reduced to criticizing players of vastly superior teams because their own team is not capable of anything.

It is a pitiful situation.
 
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