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Where would Jacques Kallis rank amongst the great cricketers and all-rounders?

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On mere figures Jacques Kallis is the greatest all-rounder ever and amongst the top 5 cricketers of all. His figures are simply stupendous or staggering and surpass even those of Imran ,Sobers and Tendulkar as a cricketer.

However what went against him is that he lacked the 'x ' factor of stalwart like Sobers ,Lara ,Imran,Botham or even Kapil and often did not step the gas sufficiently to win games.Kallis also was not at his best with both bat and ball for most of his career and for major part was great batsmen who bowled.Also not at his best in tests in England and Australia.Eclipsed greatly by Sobers as a match-winner as well as Imran and Miller or Botham in his peak.Kallis was not as explosive as Sobers with the bat or Imran ,Botham,Hadlee or even Kapil with the ball.Kallis also capitalized greatly on the minnow sin test cricket.


Neverthless he was the best of all all-rounders to bat for your life and in that regard in the Tendulkar-Lara class.Kallis also took 5 wickets and scored a century twice which Imran .Miller or Kapil have never done.He also was outstanding with the ball in some series like against West Indies at home and England in 1998.Significantly he even opened the great South African attack with the new ball which is remarkable.Considering his era it would have been very difficult for Kallis to carry such a heavy load with the ball.Kallis made a major contribution in South Africa reaching the top of the pedestal in test cricket unlike Tendulkar,Lara,Botham or Hadlee even if he averaged more in draws than wins.If not the executioner he was the architect of many victories for his side.South Africa with Kallis retained top sport in test cricket for a greater duration than Pakistan with Imran but ofcourse Imran played when West Indies were at their best.Had he played in the 1980's with tracks much more helpful he may well have been the leading all-rounder even if overshadowed by the ball by Imran ,Hadlee,Botham and Kapil.His figures in ODI's were marvellous.Phenomenal performance averaging 44 as a batsmen and 31 with the ball.


Arguably he has been grossly under rated like at 52nd place in Cristopher Martin Jenkins best 100 list and 80th place in Geoff Armstrong's 100 best.Both rank him below Sobers,Imran ,Miller,Botham,Hadlee and Kapil .I wonder what their criteria was.Only David Gower does him true justice placing him in the top 15 just below Imran and Botham.Kallis in my evaluation overall as a cricketer may be a notch below Bradman,Hobbs,Sobers,Imran,Viv,Tendulkar,Warne,Hammond ,Lara etc and in the category of Wasim Akram,Sunil Gavaskar,Ian Botham,Adam Gilchrist ,Richard Hadlee etc.

Kallis could not define an era like Botham,Sobers or Imran or entertain crowds like Kapil Dev but was morally right up there.If I had to guess he may be 2nd to Sobers as an all-rounder and amongst the top 15 cricketers of all.However with a gun on my head on another day he would by a whisker be below the likes of Miller,Imran,Botham .I have unanimity that Sobers was no1 but often feel in no man's land where Jacques would actually rank.
 
In the top 5 all rounders of all time. Below Sachin ,Lara ,Ponting,and Viv as a batsmen.
 
In the top 5 all rounders of all time. Below Sachin ,Lara ,Ponting,and Viv as a batsmen.

Where as a cricketer Overall?Around equal to Gilchrist ,McGrath or Wasim?Would he be a more suitable candidate than Imran ,Miller,Botham or even Sobers in a World xi?
 
Definitely in top 5. Very underrated cricketer, always loved his fighting spirit. Would Always want him in my team as an allrounder.
 
Very close behind Sobers as greatest all-rounder. You can’t really argue with all those centuries, wickets and catches.
 
Well it goes without saying that he's the best cricketer of his generation.

As a batsman alone he's the second best of his generation after Lara.
 
Pretty darn high. He was a colossul player and South Africa's greatest. I'd rank him higher than specialists like Sachin, McGrath and Muralitharan on the greatest cricketers list.

Probably the third or fourth-best all-rounder of all time, after Sobers, Imran and perhaps, Miller.
 
The greatest allrounder ever. People take the captaincy exploits of Imran and Kapil in World cup wins into consideration. Take those away and there is no greater all rounder with 600 International wickets and 25000 runs and hundreds of catches.
 
Great player, one of the all time greats. personally I won't pay to watch him play though. Was more of a statistician delight rather than a fan.

For those I have the pleasure to seehere is who I will pay to watch for all roundes, in my order of choice s:
Kapil
Botham
Imran
Chris cairns
Flintoff
Akram
Hadlee
 
Where as a cricketer Overall?Around equal to Gilchrist ,McGrath or Wasim?Would he be a more suitable candidate than Imran ,Miller,Botham or even Sobers in a World xi?


I wouldn't rank him higher than Gilchrist. Gilchrist is the greatest keeper batsmen of all time whilst Kallis being the best all rounder of all time is debatable.

I would have Imran and Bottham ahead of him as an all rounder in a World XI.
 
The kind of stats Kallis has , its tough to exclude him from top 3 all rounders of all times.
 
CRICKET SOUTH AFRICA (CSA) today congratulated former Standard Bank Proteas all-rounder Jacques Kallis on being honoured with the Ikhamanga Award in the Silver Division for his excellence in cricket and the role he has played in putting South Africa on the world sports map.

The National Orders ceremony was presided over today by the President, the Honourable Cyril Ramaphosa, at a function in Tshwane. Kallis was not able to attend in person because of his involvement in the Indian Premier League as head coach of the Kolkata Knight Riders and the award was accepted on his behalf by his wife, Charlene, and former Proteas all-rounder, David Rundle.

“It is highly fitting that Jacques should be honoured in this way with this prestigious award,” commented CSA Chief Executive Thabang Moroe. “Jacques’ long list of achievements hardly need repeating but suffice it to say he stands alongside the great Sir Garfield Sobers as the greatest batting all-rounder of all time and is certainly our greatest player of the modern era. He earned his place in every Protea team he represented both as a top-order batsman and as an outstanding swing bowler of lively pace. In addition, his slip catching was legendary and contributed significantly to the successes our fast bowlers enjoyed throughout his career.

“Most of important of all is the outstanding example he has set for the highest standards of sportsmanship and the traditions of the game to inspire not just aspiring young cricketers but the youth of the entire country.

“He is indeed one of the crown jewels of the CSA family and indeed I can speak on behalf of the entire nation in congratulating him and saying how proud we all are of him,” concluded Mr. Moroe.
 
He's the greatest all rounder to have played the game. He lacked the x-factor and belonged to a country without much media hype so he will always be underrated as a cricketer.
 
As a test cricketer, right there at the top. Hitting 45 centuries is no joke then you add his bowling and fielding and he becomes the complete package.
 
A legend of the game. Hard to fill boots for someone like him with multi-skills, being an expertise in batting and slip catching as well.
 
Third best AR in history after Sobers and Imran ahead of Miller and Botham.
 
Tier 1: Imran+Sobers
Tier 2: Hadlee,Botham,Kallis
Tier 3: Pollock, Miller, Shakib
Tier 4: Kapil,Flintoff
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55356;&#57119; ICC Hall of Fame 2020: Jacques Kallis &#55356;&#56831;&#55356;&#56806; <br><br>&#55357;&#56613; 10,000 runs and 200 wickets in both Tests and ODIs<br>&#55356;&#57285; Record 23 Player of the Match awards in Tests<br>&#55356;&#57295; South Africa's highest run-getter in Tests and ODIs <br>&#55357;&#56490; An all-round legend <a href="https://t.co/5sDPlaCcQX">pic.twitter.com/5sDPlaCcQX</a></p>— ICC (@ICC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1297461591424798723?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Happy birthday, GOAT.

25,534 international runs.

577 international wickets.

Only player with 20K+ runs and 500+ wickets.

The true all-rounder of the game, Jacques Kallis
 
Ricky Ponting recently declared Kallis as the greatest cricket ever. It's hard to disagree with this.
 
I think Kallis is the best all-rounder of all time. He has 13,000+ Test runs and 11,000+ ODI runs. He has 292 Test wickets and 273 ODI wickets.

Kallis is also one of the best cricketers of all time. Among top 5 for me.
 
I think Kallis is the best all-rounder of all time. He has 13,000+ Test runs and 11,000+ ODI runs. He has 292 Test wickets and 273 ODI wickets.

Kallis is also one of the best cricketers of all time. Among top 5 for me.
He can also legitimately claim to be the best test bat of all time as well as all rounder.

He had a phenomenal career.
 
Kallis has had many great performances.

His best performance probably came in 1998 CT (which South Africa won). I believe he took a 5-fer in the final. He was both the man of the final and man of the series in that tournament.

 
Ricky Ponting recently declared Kallis as the greatest cricket ever. It's hard to disagree with this.

He’s not alone. I believe Kevin Peterson has said the same and a good number of modern day cricketers regard Kallis the greatest ever for being a prolific batter and pacer.

Terrific cricketer.

I personally do not believe the Kallis hype as much and consider him the actual greatest stat padder of all time. When Kallis played Australia and other major nations in top teams i never saw the urgency or fire in his eyes to dominate. South Africa was such a loaded side during his times and they were never able to beat the Aussies. I expected someone like Kallis to rise to the occasion but he was often just silently scoring runs and taking random wickets with no context.
 
He’s not alone. I believe Kevin Peterson has said the same and a good number of modern day cricketers regard Kallis the greatest ever for being a prolific batter and pacer.

Terrific cricketer.

I personally do not believe the Kallis hype as much and consider him the actual greatest stat padder of all time. When Kallis played Australia and other major nations in top teams i never saw the urgency or fire in his eyes to dominate. South Africa was such a loaded side during his times and they were never able to beat the Aussies. I expected someone like Kallis to rise to the occasion but he was often just silently scoring runs and taking random wickets with no context.

Indian posters just don't know how to credit non-Indian players.

They only want credits for Indian players.

Cringe.

BTW, South Africa won in Australia in the 2008 series.
 
Sure, one can argue that he didn't have that aagh and that dominating persona, but his stats are once in a LIFETIME that no-one has ever, or will ever get close to. The amount of wickets he has is a dream for most bowlers. And the amount of runs that he has is something that most batsmen never even imagine reaching because it's just so many runs.

And for a SENA batsman to average over 55 in Asia and the WI is a huge feat. 45 centuries overall. He's a silent assassin. He'd be given more love had he played for England or Australia.

I don't see how he doesn't walk into any all-time XIs.
 
Indian posters just don't know how to credit non-Indian players.

They only want credits for Indian players.

Cringe.

BTW, South Africa won in Australia in the 2008 series.
Agreed, @Bhaijaan isn't a bad poster but this post was just weak.

I mean this is a guy who batting wise in tests has

A) A 55 avg

B) 45 Test centuries (2nd highest)

C) 48 avg in aus, 58 avg in india, 59 in NZ, 56 in SA, 83 in pak, 55 in uae and WI(wi was a top tier teams at the time), Kallis has only been poor in England and even then he averages 35 and he literally dealt with the toughest bowlers of that era.

D) 13K + Test runs

And as a bowler he has 292 test wickets at an 32 avg which is ordinary for a bowler but for a batting allrounder it's out of this world, to top it off he bowled in a flat track era and not a bowling friendly era like we see today.

Even in odi he has a 44 avg and 17 centuries which is insane since many batters of his era including pointing and lara struggled to cross 40 to 42. 273 wickets in odi as well

If this isn't the best allrounder of all time then I don't know what is. My guess is Indians are salty cause just like root, Steve smith and Travis head, Kallis has bashed India more times then any other country 🤣🤣🤣
 
Agreed, @Bhaijaan isn't a bad poster but this post was just weak.

I mean this is a guy who batting wise in tests has

A) A 55 avg

B) 45 Test centuries (2nd highest)

C) 48 avg in aus, 58 avg in india, 59 in NZ, 56 in SA, 83 in pak, 55 in uae and WI(wi was a top tier teams at the time), Kallis has only been poor in England and even then he averages 35 and he literally dealt with the toughest bowlers of that era.

D) 13K + Test runs

And as a bowler he has 292 test wickets at an 32 avg which is ordinary for a bowler but for a batting allrounder it's out of this world, to top it off he bowled in a flat track era and not a bowling friendly era like we see today.

Even in odi he has a 44 avg and 17 centuries which is insane since many batters of his era including pointing and lara struggled to cross 40 to 42. 273 wickets in odi as well

If this isn't the best allrounder of all time then I don't know what is. My guess is Indians are salty cause just like root, Steve smith and Travis head, Kallis has bashed India more times then any other country 🤣🤣🤣
Sobers and Imran are both better than kallis
 
Kallis is the greatest cricketer ever and top 3 batsman of all time. If he was Indian, they would have crowned him the greatest batsman, bowler and fielder of all time and for a very good reason.
 
Agreed, @Bhaijaan isn't a bad poster but this post was just weak.

I mean this is a guy who batting wise in tests has

A) A 55 avg

B) 45 Test centuries (2nd highest)

C) 48 avg in aus, 58 avg in india, 59 in NZ, 56 in SA, 83 in pak, 55 in uae and WI(wi was a top tier teams at the time), Kallis has only been poor in England and even then he averages 35 and he literally dealt with the toughest bowlers of that era.

D) 13K + Test runs

And as a bowler he has 292 test wickets at an 32 avg which is ordinary for a bowler but for a batting allrounder it's out of this world, to top it off he bowled in a flat track era and not a bowling friendly era like we see today.

Even in odi he has a 44 avg and 17 centuries which is insane since many batters of his era including pointing and lara struggled to cross 40 to 42. 273 wickets in odi as well

If this isn't the best allrounder of all time then I don't know what is. My guess is Indians are salty cause just like root, Steve smith and Travis head, Kallis has bashed India more times then any other country 🤣🤣🤣

Agree.

If Kallis was an Indian, they probably would've made 5-10 Bollywood movies about him. But, since he is a South African, some Indians are stingy to give him credits I guess.

These people simply don't know how to respect legends. Even their own legends.
 
Among the Batting Allrounders in Test cricket Kallis comes next to Sobers. Ratings by some experts don’t make sense as they are like Movie Reviewers who don’t understand how the movie was made. Kallis will be in my all time XI along with Sobers.
 
Definitely a legend of the game.

Slightly overrated as a Test bowler because he didn't do as much outside South Africa. But still great numbers for an all-rounder and an absolute beast with the bat.

Not to mention one of the safest pair of hands in the field.

You add in his ODI exploits and it's obvious he's one of the greatest players to play the game.

One of the reasons he never got enough appreciation even when he was playing had more to do with play style. He never had the flair or entertainment factor expected of a star. Similar to Chanderpaul in a way. You realize these guys are great once you go through their stats but overlook them in the moment.
 
Arguably the best batting allrounder as far as Tests are concerned. Kallis did better as a bowler stats wise as I never saw Sobers bowl. He was someone who retired while still in top form. He could have played for 2 more years in tests and eyed the 50 test 100 mark.
 
Agree.

If Kallis was an Indian, they probably would've made 5-10 Bollywood movies about him. But, since he is a South African, some Indians are stingy to give him credits I guess.

These people simply don't know how to respect legends. Even their own legends.
Indians are not like Pakistani’s who shoot bullets into the legs of their Heroes like what happened to Imran Khan 🤣
 
Kallis is basically a batting all rounder.

He was not a front line bowler in the playing XI. Thus he has to be compared with other batting all rounders. So we should not mix batting and bowling all rounders in this thread.
 
Jacques Kallis doesn't rate despite having the best all-rounder's stats


No all-rounder in the history of Test cricket, including Sir Garfield Sobers, has statistics that compare with South African Jacques Kallis.

Yet ask cricketers, past and present, where Kallis sits on the list of great all-rounders and you won't find the 33-year-old in the top 10.

Kallis has scored 9801 runs in 125 Tests at an average of 55.06 and taken 245 wickets at a highly respectable 30.92. And while he has scored 30 centuries, he has never made a double hundred.

Those figures stack up very well against Sobers, who made 8032 runs at 57.78 in 93 Tests and took 235 wickets at 34.03.

And Sobers is widely regarded as the game's greatest all-rounder.

Why doesn't Kallis receive the recognition his record deserves?

It comes down to how you play the game, according to a couple of Australians who have played with and against some of the world's best all-rounders.

In Keith Stackpole's mind, Kallis is a "selfish cricketer".

"You watch him bat and you are left with the feeling he bats for his average," said Stackpole, who scored seven tons in 43 Tests as an opener.

"And you ask yourself, 'Would I have wanted to play with him?'. The answer is no because he plays for himself.

"He doesn't rate against players such as Gary Sobers, Imran Khan, Keith Miller, Adam Gilchrist, Richard Hadlee, Kapil Dev and Ian Botham.

"Of that group, I would have to place Sobers at one, ahead of Imran, Miller, Hadlee and Gilchrist. Imran Khan was a super cricketer.

"And don't forget another South African in Clive Rice, who was hurt more by apartheid than any other great cricketer.

"Tony Greig is another who doesn't get the recognition he deserves.


"To me he was every bit as good as Ian Botham."


Former Australia quick Rodney Hogg played against Imran, Hadlee, Botham, Kapil, Malcolm Marshall and Rice and saw Sobers on two West Indies tours of Australia.

"Sobers has to be rated on top but I have enormous respect for Imran, and while Hadlee wasn't as good with the bat, he is clearly the best bowler of those all-rounders like Kapil, Botham and Marshall," Hogg said.

"Botham's shocking record against the great West Indies teams counts against him.

"Rice I played against on two tours of South Africa in the mid-'80s and remember him as someone who wanted to kill you with every ball.

"Kallis is a flat-track bully, who dishes it out to the minnows like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe but goes missing against the Australians.

"Sobers played more than half of his Tests against England and Australia, whereas Kallis has picked up around 1000 runs and 40 wickets against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. They shouldn't count.

"Kallis is a player at age 33 that we will really target in this Test series. And he is boring to watch as a bowler, just constantly bowling outside off-stump."


Rice made 26,331 first-class runs (48 centuries) at 40.95 and took 930 wickets at 22.49 for Transvaal, Nottinghamshire, Scotland and Natal.

Irrespective of where you rate Kallis, what becomes evident when investigating all-rounders is the number of high quality batsmen-bowlers and batsmen-keepers produced in South Africa.

Eddie Barlow, Mark Boucher, Trevor Goddard, Kallis, Denis Lindsay, Brian McMillan, Shaun Pollock, Mike Procter, Rice and John Waite all qualify for the all-rounder tag.

All would walk into any Test team today, given the lack of genuine all-rounders. England's Andrew Flintoff is one such player, when fit, and New Zealand's Daniel Vettori has batted well enough in the past five years to be rated an all-rounder.

Australia continues to search for a genuine all-rounder, a search that has been going on since Miller retired 50 years ago.

Alan Davidson was a great cricketer but more a bowler than batsman, Gary Gilmour showed glimpses of class and there has been nobody since to nail down the spot, although players such as Phil Carlson, Ken Macleay, Trevor Laughlin and Glenn Trimble have been tried.

Steve Waugh was clearly the best, claiming 92 wickets at 37.44 before reducing his bowling output because of back problems.​
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Doesn't get enough credit. He is unquestionably one of the greatest cricketers to ever play the game. His name should be mentioned along with the greats of the game, rather than just the greatest all-rounders.
 
He is a Goat infact next level Goat , though he instilled the chokers mentality of 90s to next Gen like ABDV Miller Steyn Duminy Amla.

Still Kallis is the perfect definition of a great player , exceptional player
 
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