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Which bowler would you prefer between Yasir Shah and Ravichandran Ashwin in Tests?

Who would you prefer between Yasir Shah and Ravichandran Ashwin (Tests)?

  • Yasir Shah

    Votes: 118 62.1%

  • Ravichandran Ashwin

    Votes: 72 37.9%
  • Total voters
    190
Hmm....preferential towards good leg spinners, but then jingoism infects this thread.
 
Rudi hater said:
Both are spinners one is finger spinner but the other is a wrist spinner. One is world number 2 and the other is tottering somerwhere in the bottom half.
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How about we look at the rankings after Yasir has toured abroad, and Ashwin has had a season of cricket at home
 
I see a lot of bias here. Yasir has been ordinary in Bangladesh and hasn't played outsite UAE and Sri Lanka yet. Ashwin has extraordinary in India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

Ashwin :
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Yasir :
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In Tests, whenver they have played on similar pitches, Ashwin has quite esily been the better bowler.
 
Yasir is number 2 Ashwin is number 8. Both are good but Yasir is the man. As the comparison is made now Yasir is clearly ahead. Aswin has played alot more cricket but wait till Yasir plays that many only then we will make a proper assessment. As far it concerned at present Yasir without a doubt.
 
Ashwin currently.If Yasir Shah does well in AUS and ENG next year then this may change.
 
I guess Ashwin takes this easily at this stage because

1. We have seen more of Ashwin - Ashwin has played for four years, seen ups and downs and emerged strong out of it. Yasir has been bowling on similar surfaces and is yet to face the big test outside Asia. (Even reputed leggies like Abdul Qadir averaged 46 outside Asia so being a leggie is no guarantee for success outside Asia). Without seeing Yasir's performance outside Asia, there is no reason to choose Yasir at this stage.

2. Ashwin is a crafty bowler - he is not the greatest of spinners in terms of talent, but he knows psychology and knows how to get the men out.

3. Ashwin's batting is a big plus. Ashwin has played as an opening batsman for his state team and his technique is nearly as good as regular batsmen, and if he applies himself he could finish with batting average of 40 and sub 30 with the ball - he has the potential to finish among the top all rounders of all time.

4. Good in all formats of the game, which is not a common skillset among bowlers.
 
Rudi hater said:
Yasir is number 2 Ashwin is number 8. Both are good but Yasir is the man. As the comparison is made now Yasir is clearly ahead. Aswin has played alot more cricket but wait till Yasir plays that many only then we will make a proper assessment. As far it concerned at present Yasir without a doubt.
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One spent last two years in Asia, other spent his time bowling in South Africa/England/Australia. That explains the ranking, doesn't it?

Look at Ashwin now, back in Asia and has outbowled Yasir at every given opportunity.
 
Zak_Fan said:
One spent last two years in Asia, other spent his time bowling in South Africa/England/Australia. That explains the ranking, doesn't it?

Look at Ashwin now, back in Asia and has outbowled Yasir at every given opportunity.
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Yes he is number 8.
 
In tests in the SC - Ashwin.
In tests overseas - I'm undecided since Yasir is yet to bowl away from Asia, and Ashwin has transformed greatly since the WC. I think Yasir will perform better than what Ashwin did, but Ashwin looks like a totally different bowler now and I'm sure he'll improve his stats in his next tour overseas.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Ashwin currently.If Yasir Shah does well in AUS and ENG next year then this may change.
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Agreed. Ashwin did extremely well in AUS and ENG. Yasir needs to out-do Ashwin's performances (which will be really hard believe me!) in order to be rated above Ashwin.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Agreed. Ashwin did extremely well in AUS and ENG. Yasir needs to out-do Ashwin's performances (which will be really hard believe me!) in order to be rated above Ashwin.
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Ashwins performance in ENG is better than YAsir's performance in BD.

And better spinners than Yasir has gone to Australia and come back bruised and battered.
 
Both quality bowlers though and it's great to have 2 world class bowlers in India and Pakistan competing to become the best spinner in the world. It'll be interesting the two along their careers and how they are at the end of their careers.
 
A simple way of looking at it.

Q) Who is better in Asia?
A) Ashwin.

Q) Who is better outside Asia?
A) We don't know but expect Yasir to be better.

Here's something about those expecations, Yasir's performance even in Bangladesh has been poorer than what Ashwin did in England. Who knows how poor he will be on dead Aussie tracks. Let him play there first, and then we can call him better.
 
Zak_Fan said:
A simple way of looking at it.

Q) Who is better in Asia?
A) Ashwin.

Q) Who is better outside Asia?
A) We don't know but expect Yasir to be better.

Here's something about those expecations, Yasir's performance even in Bangladesh has been poorer than what Ashwin did in England. Who knows how poor he will be on dead Aussie tracks. Let him play there first, and then we can call him better.
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Yasir may do well in England, but Australia will be much harder.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Ashwins performance in ENG is better than YAsir's performance in BD.

And better spinners than Yasir has gone to Australia and come back bruised and battered.
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If you really understood cricket, you would realise how Yasir Shah is getting his wickets. I am confident Yasir will do well abroad, provided he is used well by Misbah.

Ashwin's performance in ENG has no correlation with Yasir's performance in BD.
 
Usman Chadda said:
If you really understood cricket, you would realise how Yasir Shah is getting his wickets. I am confident Yasir will do well abroad, provided he is used well by Misbah.

Ashwin's performance in ENG has no correlation with Yasir's performance in BD.
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Yasir's performance in Bangladesh has a correlation with how well we can expect him to perform in tougher conditions.

It is the first sign of his potential struggles on even flatter pitches.
 
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Usman Chadda said:
If you really understood cricket, you would realise how Yasir Shah is getting his wickets. I am confident Yasir will do well abroad, provided he is used well by Misbah.

Ashwin's performance in ENG has no correlation with Yasir's performance in BD.
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Good that you are confident.Lets see what happens.As of now Yasir has played only in Asia and in Asia Ashwin trumps him.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Good that you are confident.Lets see what happens.As of now Yasir has played only in Asia and in Asia Ashwin trumps him.
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If you take out that one test against Bdesh (played on an absolute disgraceful track), Yasir has matched up to Ashwin quite well.

Ashwin does trump the likes of Rashid, Moeen, Tahir etc in Asia though

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Usman Chadda said:
If you take out that one test against Bdesh (played on an absolute disgraceful track), Yasir has matched up to Ashwin quite well.

Ashwin does trump the likes of Rashid, Moeen, Tahir etc in Asia though

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Why?Didnt Yasir play that match?Why take him out?He will have even less helpful pitches in Australia.

Ashwins 126 wickets @ 22 is the second best performance of any spinner in Asia. :sanga

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...ualval1=wickets;template=results;type=bowling
 
Usman Chadda said:
If you take out that one test against Bdesh (played on an absolute disgraceful track), Yasir has matched up to Ashwin quite well.

Ashwin does trump the likes of Rashid, Moeen, Tahir etc in Asia though

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Thing is, records don't get taken out like that. The track Ashwin bowled on agianst Bangladesh was equally disgraceful. If you open the commentary thread for that match, you will see how posters in different forums called it a disgrace to Test Cricket while India were batting.

But the moment Ashwin came to bowl, that particular track was taken out of the equation.
 
Zak_Fan said:
Thing is, records don't get taken out like that. The track Ashwin bowled on agianst Bangladesh was equally disgraceful. If you open the commentary thread for that match, you will see how posters in different forums called it a disgrace to Test Cricket while India were batting.

But the moment Ashwin came to bowl, that particular track was taken out of the equation.
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Yasir won us the next test.

I'm sorry but interms of impact, Yasir Shah has been as much a beast as Ashwin. He has won us tests in every series he has played basically.

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Whoever one prefers, it is good to see two spinners from Asia rivalling each other like this after a long time. :)
 
Yasir because I'm biased.

But thinking more objectively. I'll probably pick Ashwin given that he has more of a batting ability too and is a good bowler (and also there is no chance of him getting banned for chucking).
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Wow. Nice stat CJ. He's been our strike bowler in Asia and a match winner on his own.
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Some months ago i had said on PP that Ashwin will end up with more wickets and at a similar or better stats than Ajmal in tests.PPers were laughing,calling Ajmal a magician etc etc etc and Ashwin a good bowler only.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Some months ago i had said on PP that Ashwin will end up with more wickets and at a similar or better stats than Ajmal in tests.PPers were laughing,calling Ajmal a magician etc etc etc and Ashwin a good bowler only.
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Yeah but its surprising that a standard offbreak bowler has been the second most effective spinner in Asia considering he has no doosra etc. Normally leggies and SLA's tend to do better.
 
The error people are making here is that they are grouping uae and india as Asia.
Rank turners in India are totally different to what yasir has played on in the uae. Whilst it is difficult to say that yasir would better Ashwin on rank turners it is hard to agree that yasir will not do better than Ashwin in nz sa eng n aus.
Also would Ashwin be better in the uae than yasir. I doubt it.
It's close but in would rather have Yasir
(Looking at Test match bowling only)
 
Abdullah said:
The error people are making here is that they are grouping uae and india as Asia.
Rank turners in India are totally different to what yasir has played on in the uae. Whilst it is difficult to say that yasir would better Ashwin on rank turners it is hard to agree that yasir will not do better than Ashwin in nz sa eng n aus.
Also would Ashwin be better in the uae than yasir. I doubt it.
It's close but in would rather have Yasir
(Looking at Test match bowling only)
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Ashwin has performed great even in SL and Bangladesh where there aren't rank turners. And not every track in India is a rank turner.
 
Also u have to look beyond averages and economies as leggies are more expensive than offies naturally
 
street cricketer said:
Ashwin has performed great even in SL and Bangladesh where there aren't rank turners. And not every track in India is a rank turner.
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They spin a lot more than in the uae. Actually a heck of a lot more 80 percent of the time. The uae tracks hardly break up in truth
 
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The fact of the matter is that Ashwin's record in Asia is better because of the rank turners in India, if Yasir was to get such pitches as seen in this current Test between India and South Africa then he would also have a lower average and strike rate. In fact, we saw what Yasir got on the final day in Sharjah a 4fer.
 
Got to go with Yasir and rankings currently support that as well!
 
Haroon786 said:
The fact of the matter is that Ashwin's record in Asia is better because of the rank turners in India, if Yasir was to get such pitches as seen in this current Test between India and South Africa then he would also have a lower average and strike rate. In fact, we saw what Yasir got on the final day in Sharjah a 4fer.
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Both of them were equally good in Sri Lanka on similar pitches. I rate Yasir ahead by a whisker BTW.
 
Let's get certain things clear:

1. Ashwin's record in India can't be compared to Yasir's UAE for obvious reasons. Harder to bowl in UAE than India. So comparison have to be shifted elsewhere.

2. As of now, both played in Bangladesh/SL and were similarly good in SL with Ashwin being ahead in Bangladesh (but he bowled in just 1 innings cos there was 1 test only and there was rain). Also one must remember that Yasir came on to his own in SL (post Bangladesh tour) just like Ashwin did in Aus before the starting of WC. These things need to kept in mind when judging players CURRENTLY.

3. Overseas....none of them have really played much.

Yasir - None

Ashwin - As follows

Australia - 6 tests (averages 48) looks crap but you need context to judge this. In 2011/12 tour, he was not good. In 2014/15 series, he averaged same as Lyon in the tests he played but difference was he had to bowl alongside pacers who leaked at 6 rpo. It was at that point he had a transformation before WC 2015.

England - 2 tests (2 innings - 35 avg) 3/72 and 0/33 - what info can be gleaned from this? NOTHING.

SA - 1 test (2 innings) 0/24 (SA got all out) and 0/84 (failed to help India) - Deserves all the blame he gets for this fiasco. But his transformation happened later (just like Yasir in SL).

So what's the conclusion?

Stop judging both with stats and judge with potential.

With more games in Asia, we will know where each stands (form plus impact plus stats in common countries). And when both tour overseas and get to play games in England, NZ, SA, WI and Aus - we will know fully.

Of course, complete stats will take another 4 years to get. But Asian stats (bigger sample set plus common countries toured) plus current form plus here and tours outside Asia should give us an idea of who stands where.

The End.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
Let's get certain things clear:

1. Ashwin's record in India can't be compared to Yasir's UAE for obvious reasons. Harder to bowl in UAE than India. So comparison have to be shifted elsewhere.

2. As of now, both played in Bangladesh/SL and were similarly good in SL with Ashwin being ahead in Bangladesh (but he bowled in just 1 innings cos there was 1 test only and there was rain). Also one must remember that Yasir came on to his own in SL (post Bangladesh tour) just like Ashwin did in Aus before the starting of WC. These things need to kept in mind when judging players CURRENTLY.

3. Overseas....none of them have really played much.

Yasir - None

Ashwin - As follows

Australia - 6 tests (averages 48) looks crap but you need context to judge this. In 2011/12 tour, he was not good. In 2014/15 series, he averaged same as Lyon in the tests he played but difference was he had to bowl alongside pacers who leaked at 6 rpo. It was at that point he had a transformation before WC 2015.

England - 2 tests (2 innings - 35 avg) 3/72 and 0/33 - what info can be gleaned from this? NOTHING.

SA - 1 test (2 innings) 0/24 (SA got all out) and 0/84 (failed to help India) - Deserves all the blame he gets for this fiasco. But his transformation happened later (just like Yasir in SL).

So what's the conclusion?

Stop judging both with stats and judge with potential.

With more games in Asia, we will know where each stands (form plus impact plus stats in common countries). And when both tour overseas and get to play games in England, NZ, SA, WI and Aus - we will know fully.

Of course, complete stats will take another 4 years to get. But Asian stats (bigger sample set plus common countries toured) plus current form plus here and tours outside Asia should give us an idea of who stands where.

The End.
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when u talk about transformation of bowlers, u need to consider that ashwin played a lot of intl. Cricket before coming into his own. Yasir didnt take much time.
 
Madplayer said:
when u talk about transformation of bowlers, u need to consider that ashwin played a lot of intl. Cricket before coming into his own. Yasir didnt take much time.
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We are judging players at a given point (NOW).

Just cos someone transformed 1 year into world cricket doesn't automatically mean they will grow at the same rate. They may or may not. We can also say every team has absolutely complete clips analyzing Ashwin's every single move to death while Yasir's is just getting formed.

Fact is Yasir has become DAMN good within 1 year. But so was Ashwin when he was playing in Asia. Let Yasir have a couple of horrendous series (if he has) and then judge how he copes up. Ashwin when he broke into ODI team was an AMAZING ODI bowler. Easily better than Bhajji in 2011 WC (outbowled him all the time when they played together). Then came a period of getting carted around mercilessly in ODIs.

As you play more international cricket, you get better PLUS you get analyzed with your strengths cut out and weaknesses exposed. So just looking at improvement phase is not enough.

What we need to look at is:

1. Turn
2. Drift
3. Flight
4. Dip
5. Working out batsmen
6. How they respond when nothing is happening
7. Ability and willingness to improve themselves

At what level they are and what is their potential.

This is how you compare.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
Let's get certain things clear:

1. Ashwin's record in India can't be compared to Yasir's UAE for obvious reasons. Harder to bowl in UAE than India. So comparison have to be shifted elsewhere.

2. As of now, both played in Bangladesh/SL and were similarly good in SL with Ashwin being ahead in Bangladesh (but he bowled in just 1 innings cos there was 1 test only and there was rain). Also one must remember that Yasir came on to his own in SL (post Bangladesh tour) just like Ashwin did in Aus before the starting of WC. These things need to kept in mind when judging players CURRENTLY.

3. Overseas....none of them have really played much.

Yasir - None

Ashwin - As follows

Australia - 6 tests (averages 48) looks crap but you need context to judge this. In 2011/12 tour, he was not good. In 2014/15 series, he averaged same as Lyon in the tests he played but difference was he had to bowl alongside pacers who leaked at 6 rpo. It was at that point he had a transformation before WC 2015.

England - 2 tests (2 innings - 35 avg) 3/72 and 0/33 - what info can be gleaned from this? NOTHING.

SA - 1 test (2 innings) 0/24 (SA got all out) and 0/84 (failed to help India) - Deserves all the blame he gets for this fiasco. But his transformation happened later (just like Yasir in SL).

So what's the conclusion?

Stop judging both with stats and judge with potential.

With more games in Asia, we will know where each stands (form plus impact plus stats in common countries). And when both tour overseas and get to play games in England, NZ, SA, WI and Aus - we will know fully.

Of course, complete stats will take another 4 years to get. But Asian stats (bigger sample set plus common countries toured) plus current form plus here and tours outside Asia should give us an idea of who stands where.

The End.
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These days, batting has become an important factor for comparing bowlers who are not separated much in terms of bowling. Lower order batting often decides which team wins test matches. Since the OP did not mention that the comparison is strictly limited to their bowling, Ashwin will take this easily. We are comparing two bowlers who may be close to each other in bowling, but when one of is a good batsman capable of batting at #6,#7 with a couple of test hundreds, overseas fifties and a batting average of 30+, you know who is ahead.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Trying way too hard to be funny dude.
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It's not a joke. Just a comparison I made to associate between Yasir and Ashwin. Why you think it's meant to be funny ?
Look everything is not fun. Life aint a joke dude. It's a public forum..you can't give nonsensible posts. You might get banned. I am aware of this and so do you.
Even in Facebook I rarely joke and its Pakpassion.
 
IndianWillow said:
These days, batting has become an important factor for comparing bowlers who are not separated much in terms of bowling. Lower order batting often decides which team wins test matches. Since the OP did not mention that the comparison is strictly limited to their bowling, Ashwin will take this easily. We are comparing two bowlers who may be close to each other in bowling, but when one of is a good batsman capable of batting at #6,#7 with a couple of test hundreds, overseas fifties and a batting average of 30+, you know who is ahead.
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Anik Sharma said:
It's not a joke. Just a comparison I made to associate between Yasir and Ashwin. Why you think it's meant to be funny ?
Look everything is not fun. Life aint a joke dude. It's a public forum..you can't give nonsensible posts. You might get banned. I am aware of this and so do you.
Even in Facebook I rarely joke and its Pakpassion.
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Well if you were actually being serious then what can I say :)))
 
Anik Sharma said:
It's not a joke. Just a comparison I made to associate between Yasir and Ashwin. Why you think it's meant to be funny ?
Look everything is not fun. Life aint a joke dude. It's a public forum..you can't give nonsensible posts. You might get banned. I am aware of this and so do you.
Even in Facebook I rarely joke and its Pakpassion.
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And NOW you nailed it.

Second time's the charm.
 
Yasir right now is my choice, he's new and not proven over seas but his potential is huge. Much more talented, and explosive than Ashwin. If Yasir is this good now that Warne praises him so highly, imagine how amazing he will be with more experience and time.
 
Rudi hater said:
Yasir is number 2 Ashwin is number 8. Both are good but Yasir is the man. As the comparison is made now Yasir is clearly ahead. Aswin has played alot more cricket but wait till Yasir plays that many only then we will make a proper assessment. As far it concerned at present Yasir without a doubt.
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Agreed. Ashwin who?

But jokes aside, ajmal was 1000 times better than both.
 
Damn 2 min edit, I think Ashwin is at the top of his game. He's reached his full potential imo, and it's quite awesome especially for a offspinner, and he will continue to win matches for his side. But when the dust settles, Yasir will be better
 
Lesson on PP: No Indian bowler will ever be rated high. :)

But to be frank, a leg spinner has more chances of succeeding overseas than offies. So I will say Yasir for now. As someone mentioned next year by this time we will know where they stand. Till then we have to accept that Yasir has been better.
 
Itachi said:
Agreed. Ashwin who?

But jokes aside, ajmal was 1000 times better than both.
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Unfortunately Ajmal's banning has put a damper on all his achievements.

Even though he had been cleared twice before being subsequently banned, people would think he was chucking throughout all his performances.
 
Syed1 said:
Unfortunately Ajmal's banning has put a damper on all his achievements.

Even though he had been cleared twice before being subsequently banned, people would think he was chucking throughout all his performances.
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Yes. That was unfortunate. This shows how just a small taint can destroy a successful career which was otherwise, most part.... Clean.
 
Sample size is very small for Yasir,I think a comparison after 3 years will be better
 
Itachi said:
Yes. That was unfortunate. This shows how just a small taint can destroy a successful career which was otherwise, most part.... Clean.
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Same reason why people rate Warne higher than Murali
 
joly said:
Sample size is very small for Yasir,I think a comparison after 3 years will be better
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Agreed, something that is new and shiny always looks better.

Most teams that play Yasir now are playing him for the first time. We should wait for a couple of iterations before making any judgement.

I remember Ajanta Mendis blew away India in his first couple of encounters, and now look where he is.
 
They shouldn't be compared anyway.

A leg spinner and a finger spinner are different types of breeds. Leg spin is an art that is incredibly hard to master.

Yasir should be compared to Mishra, no doubt Yasir wins.
 
srh said:
Ashwin sometimes chucks. He himself has admitted it. So it is you who dont know what chucking is. :facepalm:
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How many times does he have to say that he chucked only in the asia cup to encourage the icc to take action against chuckers like ajmal and narine who were going scot free.
Does this need to be repeated in every thread?
 
battler said:
How many times does he have to say that he chucked only in the asia cup to encourage the icc to take action against chuckers like ajmal and narine who were going scot free.
Does this need to be repeated in every thread?
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There comes a time when you just have to keep quiet bro.

The moment a poster talks about stuff without understanding the whole topic...I mentally tune out.

And ignore any of the chucker comments.

Cos you ain't winning that battle.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
There comes a time when you just have to keep quiet bro.

The moment a poster talks about stuff without understanding the whole topic...I mentally tune out.

And ignore any of the chucker comments.

Cos you ain't winning that battle.
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It's really irratating man, you don't hear this nonsense from any other countries fans. It's only pakistani's who keep saying this and we know why. First they were insecure about Ashwin overtaking Ajmal and now same thing with Yasir.
 
battler said:
It's really irratating man, you don't hear this nonsense from any other countries fans. It's only pakistani's who keep saying this and we know why. First they were insecure about Ashwin overtaking Ajmal and now same thing with Yasir.
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See..the thing is India - Pakistan are rivals. Natural competition.

And then there is bias.

We will hear unfair comments about Indians here (but none of the rational ones say that if you see).

Same way...there are a lot of unfair comments about Pakistanis in Indian forums (by some people).

And then there are some who are NICE guys but don't get the full picture and hence may make misinformed or biased comments. But they don't mean ill unlike some others.

You should mentally sort out every poster (classify them) and interact accordingly.

Helps you to keep calm....kanna keep calm...watch pepsi ipl....on star sports dot com. :))
 
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battler said:
How many times does he have to say that he chucked only in the asia cup to encourage the icc to take action against chuckers like ajmal and narine who were going scot free.
Does this need to be repeated in every thread?
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Not that I think Ashwin is a chucker but a few Indian fans are guilty of this too.

Imran Khan too admitted tampering with the seam of the ball once in a County Match to experiment and see what happens and on the basis of that, some Indian fans here and almost everyone on the indian forums, call him a a ball tamperer and sully all his bowling achievements.

Same logic is used by Pakistani equivalents of such posters. Funny thing is neither group of posters on the either side agree to both claims and say that the opposition is a certified cheat due to admittance of guilt on one occassion but their guy was just experimenting :maqsood
 
battler said:
It's really irratating man, you don't hear this nonsense from any other countries fans. It's only pakistani's who keep saying this and we know why. First they were insecure about Ashwin overtaking Ajmal and now same thing with Yasir.
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Bro, is it any new news that some Pakistanis are insecure about India and vice versa? Try to ignore these comments and move on. Simply repeating that Ashwin is chucking is not going to make it true, and nothing is going to prevent Ashwin from becoming one of the leading spinners of his era.
 
The poll shows the obvious Pakistani bias on a Pakistani cricket forum but honestly, there is very little to separate to the two of them at the moment. A neutral poll would have both equal or Yasir a little ahead.
 
Haroon786 said:
The poll shows the obvious Pakistani bias on a Pakistani cricket forum but honestly, there is very little to separate to the two of them at the moment. A neutral poll would have both equal or Yasir a little ahead.
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No.

All the neutrals here support Yasir.

I can't name 1 neutral who is picking Ashwin.

Regardless of transformation, Aussie pitches....image is that Ashwin is a flop overseas and it will take quite a while to repair that and it won't get repaired fully unless he tours outside Asia and does well.

So regardless of margins....I think the final result is correct.
 
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