Which position is Misbah-ul-Haq best suited for?

[MenInG]

There have been many conflicting reports in recent times about Misbah's different roles but which one(s) is he best suited for?

 

[Major]

If Pakistan wants a chance at competing in the World Test Championship, then Misbah is needed in a decision making role.

But there are also some other decisions to be made.

The chief selector and the coach should be one person, and under him should be the other selectors but the final squad needs to be picked by the coach. 11 should be captains and not the coach, coach can only give input.

I prefer Misbah as head coach/selector. He is not going to be the batting coach.

Reason is only this guy has the confidence of getting 2 spinners in the line up. Sarfraz and other team management were too scared to play 2 spinnerrs in UAE, they ended up selecting Bilal asif who was not suited for test as a full time spinner. Yes he could had been uused as a part time.

Misbah goes with logic in team picking, he is the few players who backs the top performers of domestic or likes to pick those odd players that would be suited for a certain role.

Iftikhar Ahmed is a gem of a player that has no ones backing but Misbah sees him as a potential no.6 batsmen (which the team has been trying to use Asif Ali as)

Misbah is an asset on the field in such position not in the office.
If they dont give such a position than we are just wastiing Misbah.

I think the next best job for Misbah would be to give him one of the Cricket Association teams.

It is important that our first class is improved. In the old first class structure, Misbah's SNGPL was the best team and gave good competition to all the teams in the tournament. Infact, they won consecutive Quaid e Azam trophies.

Reason behind it?
Misbah was scouting and stealing players. If Misbah liked any player interms of skill or reminded Misbah of his Aukaat, misbah didnt take insult but he ended up getting that player a SNGPL contract.

He stole Azhar Ali from KRL
He stole Asad Shafiq from karachi
He saw the u19 performance of Azizullah and took him in his team
His Faisalabad Wolves team once got destroyed by Iftikhar, he decided to buy him for SNGPL
He faced Yasir Shah from Abbotabad he decided to bring him in his team
He once batted with Shadab Khan whon ended up winning a match he decided to give him an Islamabad United contract
He used to practice agianst Imran Khalid who would make it diffuclt for him to bat he ended up recruiting him for Faisalabad.
Mohammad Abbas made him look like his bunny, he ended up selecting him for Pakistan

These are just few names, the list goes on. Basically what im trying to say is, that how Misbah made SNGPL a great competitive team, he can easily make one of the domestic teams as great.

But at the same time, we also need 5 other Misbah like people for the other associations who can field similar kinds of competitive team. Or else this will be like the SNGPL all over again, where Misbah has a strong team and the others are just playing to make up numbers.



Its either Pakistan Team Management or a whole Cricket Association.

Having Misbah an assistant Coach is just a waste, because the assistant coach is never made the full time coach.

And also, while Misbah might not be respected by forum members here, he is highly respected by the fellow cricketers. He has good command over them

 

[Hawkeye]

Should become both the head coach and the chief selector. I have to applaud Wasim Khan here in thinking out of the box.

A lot of the times there's tons of tension between the team management and the selection committee. Shouldn't be like that.

Fascination of some people here with an English-sounding or foreigner's name is at times sickening. People like Mike Hesson don't deserve to coach Pakistan. It's a really really tough job, he's more of a T20 mercenary coach.

We should go for a professional, educated, resilient coach who will have no trouble communicating with the players and knows the domestic system inside out. For IND, it is Shastri.

For Pak, there's no other good local option available apart from Misbah. Previously there used to be no local options with jealous ex cricketers in the running.

This time we're lucky a professional like Misbah is there, and it's no surprise that Wasim Khan is also his fan. He's an excellent people manager and leader.

 

[MMHS]

I would have liked to see another option - Director, National Cricket Teams. Basically, a man in charge for the operation of 4 teams - PCT, PAK A, PAK U19 & PAK U16. A role, where he'll be in charge of

1. The coaching staffs (all 4 Head Coach reporting to him)
2. The scouting/selections (Including appointment of Chief Scout and his team)
3. Team (s) practice schedule, tour plan (In a matrix structure, with PCB)
4. Squad's high performance conditioning camps
5. Performance evaluation (Central Contract criteria & selection)
6. Player rotation and selection of playing XI (Along with respective Head Coach, Captain)

AND accountable for -

1. Team(s) performance - W/L, Tournaments, Series
2. Individual player performance - ranking, stats, contribution
3. Players skill development at various levels
4. Discipline - on & off the field
5. Fitness level, including diet and conditioning - on & off season
6. PCT's ranking in 3 formats


It should be a paid role and Misbah must be paid handsomely, so that he can focus for at least 4,800 hours/years, for 4 National teams. And, the contract should be for 4 years, so that he can plan till next WC. Misbah was quite good a Captain in Asian condition - should be a good pick for the role considering next WC is in IND (an T20 WC as well), and PAK will play lots of Test in Asian condition.

Scope of No. 1 & 2 are too narrow for him (& he isn't a subject matter expert either), No. 3 is under his scope as Director at a broader perspective, while No. 4 is an useless high profile position - good for the likes of Wasim Akram & Mohsin Khan.

 

[Markhor]

Coach of one of the new First Class teams.

 

[Shazzam]

Tv Analyst.

 

[topspin]

Specialist Tactician for Australian away tests.

 

[topspin]

If Pakistan wants a chance at competing in the World Test Championship, then Misbah is needed in a decision making role.

But there are also some other decisions to be made.

The chief selector and the coach should be one person, and under him should be the other selectors but the final squad needs to be picked by the coach. 11 should be captains and not the coach, coach can only give input.

I prefer Misbah as head coach/selector. He is not going to be the batting coach.

Reason is only this guy has the confidence of getting 2 spinners in the line up. Sarfraz and other team management were too scared to play 2 spinnerrs in UAE, they ended up selecting Bilal asif who was not suited for test as a full time spinner. Yes he could had been uused as a part time.

Misbah goes with logic in team picking, he is the few players who backs the top performers of domestic or likes to pick those odd players that would be suited for a certain role.

Iftikhar Ahmed is a gem of a player that has no ones backing but Misbah sees him as a potential no.6 batsmen (which the team has been trying to use Asif Ali as)

Misbah is an asset on the field in such position not in the office.
If they dont give such a position than we are just wastiing Misbah.

I think the next best job for Misbah would be to give him one of the Cricket Association teams.

It is important that our first class is improved. In the old first class structure, Misbah's SNGPL was the best team and gave good competition to all the teams in the tournament. Infact, they won consecutive Quaid e Azam trophies.

Reason behind it?
Misbah was scouting and stealing players. If Misbah liked any player interms of skill or reminded Misbah of his Aukaat, misbah didnt take insult but he ended up getting that player a SNGPL contract.

He stole Azhar Ali from KRL
He stole Asad Shafiq from karachi
He saw the u19 performance of Azizullah and took him in his team
His Faisalabad Wolves team once got destroyed by Iftikhar, he decided to buy him for SNGPL
He faced Yasir Shah from Abbotabad he decided to bring him in his team
He once batted with Shadab Khan whon ended up winning a match he decided to give him an Islamabad United contract
He used to practice agianst Imran Khalid who would make it diffuclt for him to bat he ended up recruiting him for Faisalabad.
Mohammad Abbas made him look like his bunny, he ended up selecting him for Pakistan

These are just few names, the list goes on. Basically what im trying to say is, that how Misbah made SNGPL a great competitive team, he can easily make one of the domestic teams as great.

But at the same time, we also need 5 other Misbah like people for the other associations who can field similar kinds of competitive team. Or else this will be like the SNGPL all over again, where Misbah has a strong team and the others are just playing to make up numbers.



Its either Pakistan Team Management or a whole Cricket Association.

Having Misbah an assistant Coach is just a waste, because the assistant coach is never made the full time coach.

And also, while Misbah might not be respected by forum members here, he is highly respected by the fellow cricketers. He has good command over them

Your opinion on this thread became irrelevant (as per usual), when you mentioned this line here.

 

[MenInG]

Chief Selector is my opinion - any other role will get him into a lot of trouble.

 

[Shafi]

Admin where he has to lots of paper work.

 

[Junaids]

Make him learn his trade as a coach: first with the Under-19’s (to teach him to value young talent) then at First Class level.

Once he has won a major junior international tournament or series and then two QEA First Class championships, let him apply for a senior national job.

 

[Shafi]

Make him learn his trade as a coach: first with the Under-19’s (to teach him to value young talent) then at First Class level.

Once he has won a major junior international tournament or series and then two QEA First Class championships, let him apply for a senior national job.

Not in Pakistan. Here people start from the top and use an international team as an experiment. Most of our former players have ego problem and they feel shamed to work with junior teams.

 

[King Khan]

I would have liked to see another option - Director, National Cricket Teams. Basically, a man in charge for the operation of 4 teams - PCT, PAK A, PAK U19 & PAK U16. A role, where he'll be in charge of

1. The coaching staffs (all 4 Head Coach reporting to him)
2. The scouting/selections (Including appointment of Chief Scout and his team)
3. Team (s) practice schedule, tour plan (In a matrix structure, with PCB)
4. Squad's high performance conditioning camps
5. Performance evaluation (Central Contract criteria & selection)
6. Player rotation and selection of playing XI (Along with respective Head Coach, Captain)

AND accountable for -

1. Team(s) performance - W/L, Tournaments, Series
2. Individual player performance - ranking, stats, contribution
3. Players skill development at various levels
4. Discipline - on & off the field
5. Fitness level, including diet and conditioning - on & off season
6. PCT's ranking in 3 formats


It should be a paid role and Misbah must be paid handsomely, so that he can focus for at least 4,800 hours/years, for 4 National teams. And, the contract should be for 4 years, so that he can plan till next WC. Misbah was quite good a Captain in Asian condition - should be a good pick for the role considering next WC is in IND (an T20 WC as well), and PAK will play lots of Test in Asian condition.

Scope of No. 1 & 2 are too narrow for him (& he isn't a subject matter expert either), No. 3 is under his scope as Director at a broader perspective, while No. 4 is an useless high profile position - good for the likes of Wasim Akram & Mohsin Khan.

Exactly, a Director of Cricket like what Ashley Giles currently and previously Andrew Strauss did for England.

He has an MBA, use him in an administration role.

 

[Sir-fraz]

any administrative role would suit misbah very well, especially going by his academic background

 

[moghul]

He should leave Pakistan cricket alone for good. We don;t need people with negative, defensive and selfish mindset.

 

[shah_1]

NCA cricket director
General Manager Domestic Cricket Operations
National team head Coach
Chief Selector

He will be suited in any of the above list

 

[King Khan]

He should leave Pakistan cricket alone for good. We don;t need people with negative, defensive and selfish mindset.

Geez, did he step on your toys or something?

Going into every thread about Misbah and trashing him is not going to change the fact that he is well respected - not only with many cricketers and the now management of PCB, but also with the vast majority of the fans.

Piece of advise - better to write something positive about people than trashing people you hate.

 

[shahidbhai]

Geez, did he step on your toys or something?

Going into every thread about Misbah and trashing him is not going to change the fact that he is well respected - not only with many cricketers and the now management of PCB, but also with the vast majority of the fans.

Piece of advise - better to write something positive about people than trashing people you hate.

First of all "well respected with a vast majority of the fans" ? highly doubt that... I dont respect him, hes been a burden on the side and pushed us towards a style of cricket that opposed what the world was going....and even if he was "respected" ...that respect doesn't suddenly give him good coaching abilities... when selecting a coach or a leader for anything you have to understand what your goals and objectives are....if your goal is to win the upcoming t20 world cup...ask yourself truthfully does Misbah have the aggresive mindset to win you a tournament like that?

Besides that, I feel like he should prove himself at a lower level, first class or under 19, groom some players and prove that you have what it takes to lead the national side in this day and age. If it was upto me....as of right now...he's out of the picture for sure.

 

[Hawkeye]

Geez, did he step on your toys or something?

Going into every thread about Misbah and trashing him is not going to change the fact that he is well respected - not only with many cricketers and the now management of PCB, but also with the vast majority of the fans.

Piece of advise - better to write something positive about people than trashing people you hate.

[MENTION=141839]moghul[/MENTION] seems to have a personal grudge against the guy. Perhaps they were classmates and Misbah used to steal his lunch.

He's like a broken record now, same rhetoric in every thread.

 

[Saj]

I'd like to see him coaching the Under 19s or working at the NCA as a coach with the upcoming players.

 

[Major]

Even ponting got directly admitted as an assitant coach of national team

 

[Hasan123]

An administrative role.

 

[Kroll]

none, should be left alone to enjoy his retirement - the man deserves it.

 

[MenInG]

An administrative role.

He is a very honest person and would fit in any such role - why not COO?

 

[Hasan123]

He is a very honest person and would fit in any such role - why not COO?

Don’t see him as a batting coach if I am honest. There are also better coaches than him.

He has the qualifications for a administrative role. It’s a better fit for him.

 

[Rayyman]

Middle order. Preferably #4 or 5.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Even ponting got directly admitted as an assitant coach of national team

Misbah is not fit to clean Ponting's shoes.

 

[maqbool]

Shouldn't he coach at least U19 or a first class side before coaching the National Team? Thats the option I will select for the poll.

Better to have a coach who has done this before rather than have a first time coach, whatever the stature of the player.

 

[moghul]

Geez, did he step on your toys or something?

Going into every thread about Misbah and trashing him is not going to change the fact that he is well respected - not only with many cricketers and the now management of PCB, but also with the vast majority of the fans.

Piece of advise - better to write something positive about people than trashing people you hate.

I'm not the only one on this forum who doesn;t care about Misbah, due to his selfish career. Please look at the forum and the poll result in thread about Misbah as Pakistan coach. See how many people voted for and against Misbah and just read people's comments also.

Vast majority of the posters at PP possess very good cricketing knowledge and like me , they put Pakistan cricket ahead of any personality, hence MIsbah is not a well respected ex-cricketer for majority here. Some, like you like him, that;s OK, I won;t question you for that.

 

[Suleiman]

Something where being a yes man doesn't deter results.

So I guess it takes chief selector and head coach out of the equation.

 

[Firebat]

Don't think with such limited experience that he should be head coach at all.