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insaftak said:
About a month ago. I spoke to one of my cousin and he told me Jamshed Dasti was going to join PTI and my first reaction to that was.

Allah Na Karey!

I just hope he contests election as an Azzad Candidate and doesn't join PML(N).
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PAF said:
Some news going around that Jamshed Dasti may join PTI, after Saturday's CEC meeting.

I hope he stays as far as!
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Insaftak bro, here u go :)))


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I wasn't expecting this from Imran Khan :facepalm:
It'll be a huge blow to the PTI if Dasti joins the party. Quite a few disgruntled members for IK to deal with.
 
^^ Won't be a blow. That's how the politics is done, Sadly!. He is a confirmed MNA!
 
Law said:
^^ Won't be a blow. That's how the politics is done, Sadly!. He is a confirmed MNA!
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Dasti isn't an honest person! He was disqualified on contesting the elections with a fake degree.
He has also been involved in torturing doctors in Muzaffargarh.

I don't mind old faces as long as they have a clean record. But Dasti? :facepalm:
 
The only thing in favor of Dasti is his stand against Mukhtaran Mai. His story on Mukhtaran Mai turned out to be the truth in court.
 
0tt0man said:
Dasti isn't an honest person! He was disqualified on contesting the elections with a fake degree.
He has also been involved in torturing doctors in Muzaffargarh.

I don't mind old faces as long as they have a clean record. But Dasti? :facepalm:
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Principally, I agree with you. Being not a supporter of PTI, I also find this against their own policy BUT again, He is a confirmed seat. Who wouldn't take him.
 
0tt0man said:
Dasti isn't an honest person! He was disqualified on contesting the elections with a fake degree.
He has also been involved in torturing doctors in Muzaffargarh.

I don't mind old faces as long as they have a clean record. But Dasti? :facepalm:
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he maybe morally corrupt but not financially :ik's spokesperson :P

Jokes apart, its not good for pti but as brother law said, politics in pakistan ain't easy n if imran misses out on him, nawaz will grab him wid both hands n dat truly will be a blow to pti in south punjab.

Compromising yes, but need of the hour !!
 
Did he :O:O?

Hahahahah! So he just wanted to trend worldwide on twitter :)))
 
usman7 said:
All the Imran supporters.... Can some one clarify this story to me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JElrkMHNkUY

This portrays him as a liar...
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with all the respect, i beg to say that he is imran khan, he ain't no basheer gujar or nazeer doodh dahi wala... he meets hundreds of people daily, so can't really keep everyone's name in mind. n wat do u think, i.k wud have called him up every day?? "kiyani sb kya haal hai aap ka... bachay theek hain??"

he might have met him once or twice, but that doesn't bound him to remember everyone's name...:)
 
zimmz said:
^ That make sense...but perhaps not to propaganda machinery.
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pml (n) guys portray themselves, as if they n their leadership never did anything wrong... they wud always throw baseless allegations at pti leadership coz they knw the fact dat when someone has nothing substantial against anyone else, then try defaming the latter wid baseless cheap shots....

they alhamdoLILLAH have nothing against imran khan to show, so they always come up wid some baseless propaganda :facepalm:
 
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was watching kal tak wid javed chaudhary n imo it was one of the most epic n hilarious show ever lol

it was mehreen anwar raja n jamshaid dasti vs abid sher ali vs imran ismail.

imran ismail called zardari beghairat n as a result zardari's jayala jamshaid dasti called him "meerasi" n then went on to say dat "aap nay aaj bohat pee hui hai aur aap ka leader england ja k wapis aa gya tha" n bla bla bla....


dis stance of dasti on imran khan assures dat he is not joining pti, so its a big sigh of relief for insaftak n PAF :D

n then abid sher ali wid his soothing voice took mehreen n dasti to the cleaners coz they both were speaking against punjab gov.

all in all a hilarious show n a must watch.
 
all the talk that SMQ was going to bring along 20 parlimentarians from PPP and Hashmi will get the same number from PML. N seems like just all talk so far.

Only ppl who have come along mainly are those from PML q who are siyasy yateem and looking to get back into the fold.
 
Majid Khan said:
all the talk that SMQ was going to bring along 20 parlimentarians from PPP and Hashmi will get the same number from PML. N seems like just all talk so far.

Only ppl who have come along mainly are those from PML q who are siyasy yateem and looking to get back into the fold.
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who is not a siyasi yateem here?,there are not much visionary leaders in pakistan,if there are some those are in PTI.
 
Majid Khan said:
all the talk that SMQ was going to bring along 20 parlimentarians from PPP and Hashmi will get the same number from PML. N seems like just all talk so far.

Only ppl who have come along mainly are those from PML q who are siyasy yateem and looking to get back into the fold.
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lol u gotta be kidding... noon league was never ever ready to give up on hashmi sb but he ditched 'em, is he a siyasi yateem?? noon league met shah mehmood 3 4 times to make him join them which he never did, is he a siyasi yateem?? jahangir tareen gave up his national assembly seat to join pti, is he a siyasi yateem??

i knw there are some siyasi yateems in pti but u can't stereotype it, can u??
 
saj001 said:
Definetly cleaner than current President and PM. ;-)
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On a serious note, no less than a coup for PTI is Sargodha/Bhera/Bhalwal region.

They are a very strong political (feudal :facepalm:) family.
 
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ahsan88 said:
On a serious note, no less than a coup for PTI is Sargodha/Bhera/Bhalwal region.

They are a very strong political (feudal :facepalm:) family.
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They are what you call siyasi lota. Problem is you need them to get to the power! sad reality.

Dr. Azhar Jadoon (Runner up NA-17 Abbottabad) decides to join PTI. Apperantly he has very good reputition in Abbottabad.
 
saj001 said:
They are what you call siyasi lota. Problem is you need them to get to the power! sad reality.

Dr. Azhar Jadoon (Runner up NA-17 Abbottabad) decides to join PTI. Apperantly he has very good reputition in Abbottabad.
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Why sad?

That is politics, Pakistani style.
 
Dr. Shiren Mazari trying to become a proper politician.

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Decent gathering for someone like Shiren Mazari. She is really thinking of contesting election from Rajanpur of all places.
 
^^

Nothing wrong with it. I would have had her contesting from maybe a city where party votes counts more than the individual vote bank. More Power to Shiren Mazari and PTI if they think they could win from there with party vote.

In other news Dr. Azhar Jadoon the 2nd man in Sooba Hazara Tehreek has joined PTI. He got around 38.000 votes as an independent candidate in last election.

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For all those that are wondering where Rajanpur is. Here is a Map. P = Punjab, S= Sindh & B = Balouchistan.
 

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insaftak who is this saif ullah khan niazi guy ?
Imran was really praising him in one video.Tells that he was one of the few active members of the party when the party was reduced to merely 10 active members.
Btw what a turnaround from 10 members to a tsunami of members :ik
 
Interview: With Imran Khan through thick and thin (The News: January 16, 2012)


Islamabad

Saifullah Khan Niazi, the PTI Central Additional Secretary General, epitomises the ideological worker who is the backbone of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaaf. He has been with Imran Khan in laying the foundations of the Party in 1996 and continues to work quietly to ensure that the Party’s organisational structure is developed along modern and scientific lines from the grassroots up. Saifullah is a man who is driven by the Party ideology and has single-mindedly devoted his life — literally — to this cause.

In 1993, he made a conscious decision to leave the USA and return to Pakistan so that he could do something for his country which he sees as “a land rich in natural resources which can be made into a flourishing nation where all the people are prosperous, and a country which can take its rightful place in the global community. It is these ideas that drove me to return to Pakistan where I finished my higher education by getting a Masters in Business Administration (MBA).”

Contrary to the popular perception that the PTI has suddenly gained a tsunami-like popularity or that it is a new phenomenon on the political scene of Pakistan, the reality is that the PTI today stands where it does because of the persistent hard work by people like Saifullah Khan Niazi over the last 16 years. This band of committed workers not only vowed to serve Pakistan but believed in the leadership of Imran Khan enough to dedicate their lives to the PTI in the hope of realising their dream for this country.

Saifullah was asked why when every Pakistanis dreams of going to the USA, he left that country and headed back to Pakistan despite the prevailing feeling of despondency amongst the younger generation? Without hesitation he responded by saying that this is precisely what brought him back. This prevailing sense of despondency caused him concern. “I was worried about Pakistan’s future. Here was a country bestowed with God’s bounty and all we needed to do was to use these resources to give our people hope and justice and become a role model for the rest of the world.”

When asked, cynically, how this could happen now when for 64 years this had not been possible, Saifullah was equally clear in his response. “Until now Pakistan, after the Quaid, had not found a brave, honest and capable leader who was neither purchasable nor vulnerable to disappointment and setbacks. During the Pakistan Movement we had Quaid-i-Azam Mohammed Ali Jinnah to lead so we snatched Pakistan from the British imperialists and the Hindu majority of the subcontinent. Today, after a long time we have in Imran a figure like the Quaid, who is Imran’s role model. Imran wants to realise the Quaid’s vision for Pakistan. His honesty is unquestionable and his resolve and determination are also there for everyone to see.”

Again, on being asked how this vision can be made a reality in the face of the opportunists and self-seekers now entering the PTI’s fold and dominating it, Saifullah had a different view. While he conceded that all sorts of people were entering the PTI after the Lahore ‘jalsa’, he was equally vehement in denying that these new entrants had taken over the Party. According to Saifullah, even though some people with questionable integrity also flocked to the Muslim League during the Pakistan Movement, the Quaid still succeeded because of his resolve and integrity. “We say that with the same tools of honesty and dedication, we will also secure our Party against such opportunists.”

Saifullah proceeded to explain that as the PTI moves from being a Movement to an Organisation, it will achieve its goals and keep the opportunists at bay. As he explained, despite the popular perception being created of election commitments being doled out to new entrants, the PTI has in fact made no commitment or promise to anyone for a Party ticket. He reiterated that there is no confusion on this point that the CEC will decide on this issue just as it will decide on who gets what Party Office. “Close to the elections we will have in place a Parliamentary Board and a Scrutiny Committee with people like Justice (r) Wajiuddin Ahmed and Hamid Khan as members and their credentials are impeccable.” The Parliamentary Board would be given its operational parameters and the PTI works on the principle that its ideological workers and youth are the Party’s main assets, so they cannot be left out when it comes to tickets and party offices. “After all, these are the people who clung on to their dream for 16 years”, remarked Saifullah. He went on to add that new people will be welcomed since many of them are sincere and if rules were followed then there will be no battle line between the old and the new.

Talking of the Party organisation in which he is playing a key role, Saifullah explained that they are building on the foundations of “census block code” upwards, reaching out to workers so that competent people rise up from the grassroots’ level. To educate the party workers study circles are being created so that the Party can familiarise itself with the thinking of the common man and the workers can learn about the Party ideology and policies — a “two-way” learning process as Saifullah put it.

How will the party approach the common man? “By adopting all modern means of communication including the social media. www.insaf.pk is our website, managed by ideological workers, which keeps everyone updated on our activities and is a forum for dialogue and information”, Saifullah pointed out.

Saifullah Khan Niazi has before him the whole history of the PTI and he has been involved not only in the organisational build up of the Party since 1996 leading to the 2002 elections, but also in the PTI’s frontline role in the Restoration of the Judiciary Movement of 2007. His organisational skills came to the fore on 13th August 2011 at the extraordinary rally in front of the parliament in Islamabad where he was the main organiser. Most recently the Karachi ‘jalsa’ was also a result of this evolving organisational structure.

It is Saifullah’s optimism that stands out when he talks of Pakistan and the PTI. “The blessings described in ‘Sura Rahman’ are all present in Pakistan”, he declares. Then he enthuses, Pakistan is again getting united under PTI as people join the Party on the basis of ‘Pakistaniat’. ‘Hum ek Hain’ (we are One) is our rallying cry and this is the new phase of Pakistan’s history when Pakistanis will be proud again of being Pakistani.

Only time will tell if his optimism will prove correct but for now it is sustaining him and the PTI workers through the trying times confronting this country today.


http://insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/artic...-thick-and-thin-The-News-January-16-2012.aspx
 
RUMORS are that JUI Central Leader Hafiz Hussain Ahmed will Join PTI soon!
 
lo jo panga karta hai uske sath hath ho jata,Allah kese game chala rha hai inn mafia k sath.
 
He is definitely leaving the hypocrite,no other party caan take him ,sure
 
^ That's from a recent interview he gave to NDTV's Burkha Dutt.

Here is the quote from that interview:

Imran Khan: Who are these liberals? I want to know because if you look at our rallies, for me it was very satisfying because I have struggled for 15 years, but it was all cross-sections of society. It was girls coming in jeans. It was women coming from deeni madrassas, it was Urdu medium, English medium, the religious. All of them came. It's the only party in Karachi that does a rally and all sections of society come; the Pashtuns come and the Urdu speaking come and the Balochis, Sindhis. So it is a party that hopes to get all the country on one platform. I don't know whom you talk about. These liberals. I don't know these liberals, because these liberals back bombing of villages. They back drone attacks. I mean, I don't call them liberals. I call them fascists. In my book these people are fascists. They have criticised me because I opposed this War on Terror. I opposed this criminal bombing, aerial bombing of villages, women and children getting killed. And these people were applauding it. These are not liberals. This is the scum of Pakistan who call themselves liberals, who have brought this country to this stage. Because of them we have extremism in this country. When they look at these people who stand behind every American policy which allows this country to, all human rights being violated, people being picked up and disappeared, and they've applauded all that. These liberals, so called liberals, applauded the incineration, where they bombed this mosque when there were children and women in it, students in it. And these liberals were in the forefront. I don't call them liberals. I agree. I really think these are the scum of this country
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So basically exterminate liberals from Pakistan and all terrorism and extremism will go away. What about the genocide being committed by our armed forces in Balochistan, what about real terrorists blowing up mosques, schools, shops, killing people indiscriminately, are they not the problem. What about people in his own party like Kasuri and SMQ who were in power when these drone attacks were going on and people were being picked up and disappeared by our intelligence services. What is he doing to those liberal scums. I guess once you join and support him you can wash all your sins and discard the liberal tag and become pure.
 
This is a good example of the one sided and simplistic mentality and ideology displayed by people who (either intentionally because of some agenda or because of their limited knowledge of the facts) make a mockery out of the issue of extremism in our society. Forget our military's role in creating and nurturing the jihadi outfits, forget our state's policy of harboring terrorists so they can use them later once the Americans leave, forget the Saudi sponsored Madrassa's who are indoctrinating our young kids, forget the lack of education, health and opportunities in creating a breeding ground for extremism in our society, forget everything else and blame it all on the liberal fascists. Who called them a soft target. Only someone brave can challenge such a dominant and menacing force in our society. It's true that they can't bomb you, they can't kill you, they won't even come out and protest in front of your house. But you can count on them to write a few articles criticizing you and maybe even make a music video if you really push them. So yeah why not, go after them, blame them for all the problems. It's good solid material. It's political gold. Sure to get you a huge applause in a jalsa and bunch of votes in the elections.
 
Another interesting comment made by Imran during this interview. Just makes one wonder who is the real Imran Khan.

NDTV: You wrote in your book that you had two idols in university, Mick Jagger and Karl Marx. That's quite funny.

Imran Khan: In university, yes, Mick Jagger and Karl Marx. Even now I think I find someone like Tariq Ali who is not religious but who is a Leftist. I find my views are far closer to Tariq Ali than probably anyone else.
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ahsan88 said:
What is this furor about Imran Khan calling liberals a scum?

Any truth to it?
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I would like to highlight my own part from the interview instead of the one that was highlighted by Saadi


Imran Khan: Who are these liberals? I want to know because if you look at our rallies, for me it was very satisfying because I have struggled for 15 years, but it was all cross-sections of society. It was girls coming in jeans. It was women coming from deeni madrassas, it was Urdu medium, English medium, the religious. All of them came. It's the only party in Karachi that does a rally and all sections of society come; the Pashtuns come and the Urdu speaking come and the Balochis, Sindhis. So it is a party that hopes to get all the country on one platform. I don't know whom you talk about. These liberals. I don't know these liberals, because these liberals back bombing of villages. They back drone attacks. I mean, I don't call them liberals. I call them fascists. In my book these people are fascists. They have criticised me because I opposed this War on Terror. I opposed this criminal bombing, aerial bombing of villages, women and children getting killed. And these people were applauding it. These are not liberals. This is the scum of Pakistan who call themselves liberals, who have brought this country to this stage. Because of them we have extremism in this country. When they look at these people who stand behind every American policy which allows this country to, all human rights being violated, people being picked up and disappeared, and they've applauded all that. These liberals, so called liberals, applauded the incineration, where they bombed this mosque when there were children and women in it, students in it. And these liberals were in the forefront. I don't call them liberals. I agree. I really think these are the scum of this country
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Fully agree with Imran!

Pakistani "wannabe" Liberals bring shame to all real liberals of the world.
 
salaam insaftak!!

can u tell me, when will the bhera(sargodha) jalsa be held??

i initially heard dat it will be on the 20th, but now, the news has it dat its on 22nd.... any clue??
 
Wsalam Jack_Sparrow!

I think the 20th Jalsa is in Swat not sure about Sargodha. I will post it here if I find anything about it.
 
ahsan88 said:
Ahh Imran Khan, nah idhar kay rahey, na udhar kay.
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Therefore, you need a different approach and while this is depressing, what was most encouraging was my rallies, everyone came, religious people, westernised people, everyone came to the rally. Therefore, there is a chance of reconciling people, getting people together on one stage and this is really my hope, you know, that I become a bridge and get people together rather than polarize the society more.
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:imran
 
ahsan88 said:
Yes, by calling a part of the society as scum.
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only those that fully endorse bombardment of villages. I am sure you don't endorse bombardment of villages, abduction of civilians, extra judicial murders.

A true liberal would never stand for that rubbish.
 
insaftak said:
only those that fully endorse bombardment of villages. I am sure you don't endorse bombardment of villages, abduction of civilians, extra judicial murders.

A true liberal would never stand for that rubbish.
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Burning bridges.

Oh well, not that it matters. Liberals hain hi ginay chunay.
 
insaftak said:
I am one of them but I have some what expanded my understanding of liberalism after listening to Imran Khan few years ago.

Pakistani libs bring shame to all libs all over the world.
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I have never seen you bash religion. :)

I have seen you bash mullahs though. :))

And no they don't - some of them have to fight for their lives, to say what they think, out in public.
 
I can see that just like Imran his supporters are also confused about the meaning of liberalism. Imran equates liberalism with anti-west ideas, its like Zaid Hamid or JI or JUD calling themselves liberals because theyare anti-west. Also, you cannot embrace one liberal idea and discard the rest because it does not suit your agenda and call yourself a liberal or leftist. He talked about his views being closer to Tariq Ali than anyone esle. Well, Tariq Ali has a good deal to say about the extremism being brewed by our Army and funded by Saudia Arabia, does Imran agrees with him on that, if so why does he fail to mention it everytime he is asked about the causes of extremism in our society.

In any case, no liberal that I know of cheers on when innocent people are killed or bombed, I am not sure who Insaftak is referring to. If someone has an opinion different from Imran, he calls them scum. That itself is anti-liberal and amounts to a very rigid and narrow mindset. It shows his lack of tolerance and patience with differing opinions. Also, this routine of calling liberals "so called liberals" just because they don't agree with you on everything, is getting pretty lame.

Like I said in my earlier post. Liberals are the softest target in Pakistan. They have no jihadi wing, they have no armed gunmen. They can only talk back at you through press. On the other hand, when Imran is asked about JUD and Hafiz Saeed, he gets cautious, reminding the anchor of the reality that he has to live in Pakistan and cannot say such things about these people, implying that if he does they might kill him. Bravo, our courageous leader. You showed them what bravery and fighting for truth and justice is all about.
 
BTW, I feel like this thread is being deralied. Maybe a mod can make a new thread out of this topic starting with the post by ahsan88 post # 1413, if that is ok with insaftak that is. I would like to have others share on this topic too which I feel they might not be doing because of this topic being in this thread. Thanks. :)
 
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I also called "Islamists" so called "Islamists" so for me both of them are same.

I am refering to everyone that was supporting military actions in FATA/SWAT. The same people would oppose the military operations in Karachi (read MQM), Balouchistan (PPP to an extent) were full time supporters of military action in FATA. (bunch of hypocrites)

As for Imran being cautious it's tactical move in today's pakistan where society is deeply polarized. we have seen What happened to Salman Taseer, Ghamdi and Maulana Naeemi in pakistan. Hope is not a strategy and you can't go with "aaa bael mujhe takar maar" you have to be smart to move and bring people together.

As for Imran Khan not saying anything about saudi arabia and army breeding extremism in pakistan then maybe you need to listen to Imran Khan closely when he says "1980s mein be dollars ke pujarioon nein hamari janein bechi aur aaab be dollars ke pujarioon nein hamari janein bechi hein"

Time for "so called libs" to wake up and listen to what Imran Khan is actually saying and has been saying for many years.
 
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^ "Islamists", "Liberals". I usually refrain from using labels like these. They are far too easy to give but hard to define.

I know Imran is being tactical but he should be tactical when talking about all groups opposing him. Why be tactical when it comes to JUD and all out explosive when it comes to liberals. As for bringing people together, calling a group "scum" is unlikely to bring them any closer to you.

As for Imran saying the 1980's quote you listed. Why can't he be a little more spsecific. Why not call on our current Army and ISI generals by name and ask them why are they doing "poja of dollars". I guess you will call that being tactical too.

As for the "so called liberas" waking up. Believe me, its about time everyone wakes up from this slumber. But to redirect our problems and anger on only part of the problem is not going to solve the problem.
 
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When the country was run by Musharaf he named him as the chief destroyer of Pakistan and bending over for the America/Nato for few dollars. Right now the government is run by civilians aka morons like zardari and Gilani and Imran rightly points at them. The government has to define the policy and not outsource the policy to GHQ.

Imran didn't explode on the liberals, Imran Khan says I don't even consider them liberals just read what he said again.
 
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Lately PTI is taking serious beating on the ground with PTI offices being attacked, ISF students are being attacked these attacks are actually happening in PPP strongholds.

I hope everyone sticks to the basic principles of the party.

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