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Who is the greatest Test all-rounder of this generation?

When we talk about Test cricket so no one comes to mind other than Jaque Kallis.

true ATG Test all rounder.
 
Mamoon said:
It is highly disrespectful to call Jadeja two steps below Imran as a bowler. Jadeja has been an outstanding match-winner with the ball.

He has played a huge role in establishing the 2015-2021 Indian team as the GOAT Asian Test team in history.

Jadeja in the last 5 years & 30 Tests has averaged 46 with the bat and 26 with the ball, and 16 of these 30 Tests have been outside Asia.

This is a staggering record. A peak all-round performance that puts him in the pantheons of legendary all-rounders.
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Failed in SA and nz though.
Imran never had any weaknesses or holes in his record.
Also he has a very average record in England.
It's Asia, w.indies and Australia where he has done well.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Now people are trolling.

I mean I think Imran is a tad overrated on this forum.

But Jadeja vs Imran is not a comparison.

Seriously.

Imran at his peak was the most desructive all rounder to have played the game.

Jadedja at his best is a fishmerman.

Gets the job done but not even close.

Laugable trolling and comparisons.
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It's a joke I agree. Imran is tiers above jadeja.
In Asia absolutely I admit jadeja is brilliant. In Australia and w.indies too

But he failed bad in SA and average in England. Also mediocre in nz.

He has clear weakness vs swing as a batsman

His bowling is useless in grassy pitches or pitches that have any assistance
 
kron said:
It's a joke I agree. Imran is tiers above jadeja.
In Asia absolutely I admit jadeja is brilliant. In Australia and w.indies too

But he failed bad in SA and average in England. Also mediocre in nz.

He has clear weakness vs swing as a batsman

His bowling is useless in grassy pitches or pitches that have any assistance
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Jadeja has a 6-fer in SA vs ATG Saffers batting lineup.
 
Ab Fan said:
Jadeja has a 6-fer in SA vs ATG Saffers batting lineup.
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He took wickets after they piled on runs probably. Was this the 2013 series? Cause I do remember india almost losing a match after scoring 500 plus and allowing steyn to chase. He was just picking up cheap wickets

How did he do in 2021 series in SA? Can't remember. He played one game I think and failed?
 
It has to be Kallis. No doubt about it. Next in line would have been Imran Khan but he retired before I was even born so not my generation player. SO after Kallis, it will be Jadeja for the current generation poll.
 
kron said:
He took wickets after they piled on runs probably. Was this the 2013 series? Cause I do remember india almost losing a match after scoring 500 plus and allowing steyn to chase. He was just picking up cheap wickets

How did he do in 2021 series in SA? Can't remember. He played one game I think and failed?
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Just played one game. That pitch was so poor that SA got all out at 55. Game was over in 2 days and Jadeja wasn't even required to bowl even 1 over. With bat, he played one inning and got a duck. Hardly anything to make out of that game.
 
Ab Fan said:
Just played one game. That pitch was so poor that SA got all out at 55. Game was over in 2 days and Jadeja wasn't even required to bowl even 1 over. With bat, he played one inning and got a duck. Hardly anything to make out of that game.
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So basically untested in SA conditions.
Need to wait and see.
 
Complete flop show by Stokes this series, can't remember a failure of this magnitude by a visiting star player. He has to improve a lot in SC and Australia. Doesn't bowl these days.
 
Stokes is not worthy of lacing the boots of Ashwin and Jadeja as all-rounders.

They are probably better batsmen him too at this point.
 
Jadeja and Shakib both are better test all rounders than Stokes.
 
Stokes fails again with the bat @Mamoon

15th time he has fallen to Ashwin, his batting against spin is meme level now. This tour has done great damage to his test legacy, third tour to India and still unable to handle spin on a gentle day 3 pitch in Dharamsala.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Stokes fails again with the bat @Mamoon

15th time he has fallen to Ashwin, his batting against spin is meme level now. This tour has done great damage to his test legacy, third tour to India and still unable to handle spin on a gentle day 3 pitch in Dharamsala.
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Ben Stokes faced 367 balls in 10 inning

Kuldeep Yadav faced 362 balls from 6 innings


Stokes, just relying on his batting, does not deserve a place in Eng team.
 
Buffet said:
Ben Stokes faced 367 balls in 10 inning

Kuldeep Yadav faced 362 balls from 6 innings


Stokes, just relying on his batting, does not deserve a place in Eng team.
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lol, this should be an eye opener.
 
Stokes is a mediocre cricketer. 90% of the matches that he has played testifies to this fact.
 
Buffet said:
Ben Stokes faced 367 balls in 10 inning

Kuldeep Yadav faced 362 balls from 6 innings


Stokes, just relying on his batting, does not deserve a place in Eng team.
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@Mobashir

Is the player you said was better than Kohli, Ashwin, Jadeja and Rohit?
 
Jadeja is past his peak but he is comfortably the best Test all rounder of the last decade.

Makes it purely for skills in 1 discipline and everything he adds with the bat is a big bonus.

Stokes won't make it purely as a batter or bowler.
 
Mobashir said:
Yes but I was wrong and you are right in saying that "Stokes is mediocre player".
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Yes you were. Stokes doesn’t get into the Indian team but all those players that I mentioned walk into the England team.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes you were. Stokes doesn’t get into the Indian team but all those players that I mentioned walk into the England team.
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Stokes is Lucky to have played 100 test matches, you said it :he is a mediocre player.

Now, what more do you want ?
 
Mobashir said:
Stokes is Lucky to have played 100 test matches, you said it :he is a mediocre player.

Now, what more do you want ?
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That would be sufficient. Thanks for the acceptance. Stokes getting exposed was necessary.
 
This “generation” thing is vague and ambiguous. A cricket “generation” is different than a population generation. Imran, Kallis etc. are NOT this (cricket) generation. This generation is Stokes, Jadeja, Shakib, Shadab, Ashwin etc.
 
When we talk about the best the first name that comes to mind is Jaques Kallis. I don't think we will get anyone better than him in the next generation either.
 
80's 90's and even the 2000's had some very good all-rounders but again over the past decade or so it has been difficult due to excessive cricket. Obviously there were the great ones (Imran, Kapil, Botham, Kallis, Hadlee etc) but don't forget there were also good all-rounders like Chris Cairns, Razzak, Azhar Mahmood, Heath Streak, Daniel Vettori, Neli Johnson etc during that time. It will be hard to put down 10 names who can succeed with both bat and ball in this generation consistently.
 
Mobashir said:
Scoring runs on that pitch don't make you best of anything.
Jadeja is a good spinner in Asia and he has got few good innings with the bat.
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He has got many good innings with the bat, Indian lower order has bailed us out umpteen times between 2020-2025.

His innings was very important, we were 210-5 and it could have been curtains for us below 300 if he didn’t show up, also on the same pitch England failed
 
He's a very underrated player, a GOAT allrounder in some conditions and a handy utility player away from home.

But it would be difficult to accommodate him in the side as a specialist bat.
 
Mobashir said:
Scoring runs on that pitch don't make you best of anything.
Jadeja is a good spinner in Asia and he has got few good innings with the bat.
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Averages 41 away from home with bat since 2020. Playing 1-2 great knocks don’t make you great. Consistency holds key.
 
Jadeja has been a consistent bridge between Indian top order and lower order. He has always been the guy who saved us from lower order collapses. If not for him, there would have been more lower order collapses and would have converted into more losses in away games. :inti
 
Jaddu did well in Aus and West Indies and Asia no doubt

Poor in nz overall

average in England in bowling but did well in batting

In SA again he was average
With bat and ball

I guess jaddu still cause stokes was much worse overall and so was shakib
 
Sakib.

Stokes is a rubbish player and Jadeja/Ashwin are fake all-rounders.

Green can be really good if Australia stop believing that he can be a top order Test batsman because he can’t be. He is a number 6.
 
Ab Fan said:
Jadeja has been a consistent bridge between Indian top order and lower order. He has always been the guy who saved us from lower order collapses. If not for him, there would have been more lower order collapses and would have converted into more losses in away games. :inti
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He is a Krunal Pandya level cricketer with much better luck.
 
Wanted to list down Jadejas exploits with the bat in last 5 years :

175 vs Sri Lanka coming in at 228/5, went on to pick 9 wkts too

86 vs Eng, Lords 2021, coming in at 282/6, result - India won a match at lords

104 vs England , Birmingham 2022, coming in at 98/5

91 vs England - Nottingham 2021, match was drawn

70 vs Aus at MCG, came in at 173/5, result India won

55 vs Eng at Oval, came in to hat at 5 with Rohit, result - we won again

62 vs Wi at Antigua, we were down 189/6 and he helped us to 297 batting exclusively with the tail, result - we won again

58 vs England at Chennai coming in to bat at 106/6, helped us reach 300

57 vs Aus at Ranchi

50+ vs Aus at ScG 2018, match was drawn because of rain, otherwise we were in strong position to win it.


The above post if for posters who actually want to understand what Jadeja has done, he has been instrumental in a lot of wins both home and away, and believe me I haven’t listed a lot of quality knocks at home.
 
Mamoon said:
Sakib.

Stokes is a rubbish player and Jadeja/Ashwin are fake all-rounders.

Green can be really good if Australia stop believing that he can be a top order Test batsman because he can’t be. He is a number 6.
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Lol, Let alone matches Saqib skipped multiple series in SENA so that he can statpad in home conditions and not hurt his average.

The amount of times he has done this makes it a certainty that this was planned and not coincidental.
 
Jadega definitely deserves some credit for India’s home dominance for over a decade. If his stats are truly as good as done suggest overseas, then surely I’d say it’s him.

Seems to be a much better Test bat than LOI, I recall he was raking up triples in FC for fun as a youngster. No mean feat.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a Krunal Pandya level cricketer with much better luck.
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It used to be Stokes but he has declined.

There is no outright greatest Test all-rounder currently. Most teams are going through transitions.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Lol, Let alone matches Saqib skipped multiple series in SENA so that he can statpad in home conditions and not hurt his average.

The amount of times he has done this makes it a certainty that this was planned and not coincidental.
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The irony of Indian fans mocking others for skipping matches. :bumrah
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
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Players like Jadeja can be found in every Ranji team. He is very average. He just found himself at the right place at the right time.

He greatly benefited from playing for CSK due to which he got a lot of dances even though he was poorly performing for India.
 
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