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Who would win a limited war between India and China?

Who would win a limited war between India and China?


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One sincerely hopes that India and China sort out their issues peacefully but given the drums of war beating in India, some sort of a limited engagement could happen soon.

In such a case, who is likely to come out as the victor?
 
China should win on paper if no other country helps India.

Chinese force is obviously superior.

I hope they avoid the conflict. Nobody really wins in such conflict.
 
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If it’s limited war, then India spin doctors will be able to get a narrative palatable to the Indian population regardless of what actually happens. After all the Indians think they came out on top in the Abhinandan episode and also shot down F-16s 🤣🤣🤣
 
Long term both of em will lose
No investor likes waring nations

But in short term ofcourse China they are extremely mobile and can move from area to area pretty quickly
 
Didn't expect this thread bro. How has this come to this?
 
Mark my words, If India goes on to even a limited war they will get smashed to smitherns and it will be even more humiliating than 1962. They will lose a lot of territory, and if Pakistan joins in then definitely this will lead to the freedom of Kashmir.
 
India is powerful enough to do surgical strike in China for its 20 dead soldiers. Tongue in cheek comment. They buy miliatry equipment non-stop. Personally, I do not think there will be a war but I do not know what would be the political implications for Modi government with all this silence on the issue and now the opposition parties have an opprtunity to manify this 20 dead soldiers issue. Let's see how it goes.
 
Mark my words, If India goes on to even a limited war they will get smashed to smitherns and it will be even more humiliating than 1962. They will lose a lot of territory, and if Pakistan joins in then definitely this will lead to the freedom of Kashmir.

Too much day dreaming! Pakistan does not involve in unnecessary wars. Only reacts if it is attacked. I think China does not need any other help to deal with India.
 
It's unfortunate that this is being considered to be like some sport, guess I need a break
 
Too much day dreaming! Pakistan does not involve in unnecessary wars. Only reacts if it is attacked. I think China does not need any other help to deal with India.

This time i believe if war happens, we should join. We made the mistake in 1962, lets not repeat that again and lets end the Kashmir issue once and for all.

I am not a war mongerer, but India will surely attack GB and AJK in future, they plan to. So, lets attack the enemy before it comes to our door.
 
This time i believe if war happens, we should join. We made the mistake in 1962, lets not repeat that again and lets end the Kashmir issue once and for all.

I am not a war mongerer, but India will surely attack GB and AJK in future, they plan to. So, lets attack the enemy before it comes to our door.

It will lead to World War 3. India has nuclear weapons and missiles. I don't think there will even be a limited war with China. They will try to fix this issue diplomatically. With 20 dead bodies and all, more questions will be asked from Modi by the oppositions and public in general other than that it is a wishful thinking to see a limited war between these two countries. War is nothing like a dog fight.
 
You should start following indian news channels asap. Once you do that you will feel at home in this thread. :inti

Except for maybe SAB tv and EPIC I hardly watch Indian tv channels even when I visit home. I do have subscription to TVF though, maybe that's why am hating everything :trump2
 
I think world may step in to defuse the situation like happened last year with India-Pak. The world cannot afford nuclear powers bickering.

However, a couple of things are different. The world is preoccupied with battling a pandemic and the US has been bigging up India for a few years in order to counter the rise of China, and this is their golden opportunity to use India as a tool. Just this week US moved three aircraft carrier groups near Chinese waters. So US encouraging India-China issues on LAC isn't out of the realm of possibility and it my try to pressurize through naval route.
 
OP treating these 2 countries like pawns in a virtual game .. what a shame...

But yeah, I think China will take this one, if there's no outside interference.
 
It will lead to World War 3. India has nuclear weapons and missiles. I don't think there will even be a limited war with China. They will try to fix this issue diplomatically. With 20 dead bodies and all, more questions will be asked from Modi by the oppositions and public in general other than that it is a wishful thinking to see a limited war between these two countries. War is nothing like a dog fight.

LOL. So you think when India will attack AJK and GB, then nuclear war wont happen? Considering our people and our mindset, there are more chances of nuclear war happening If we lose against India than India losing against us and china.

Its either this way, China and Pakistan attacking India and settling J&K, Ladakh issue once and for all.

OR

India attacking Pakistan's GB and AJK, and hurting CPEC as well and therefore inviting China into the war.

The conclusion in both situations is the same - India's loss or for you, Nuclear War.

This is inevitable.
 
For fair and accurate news which indian channels are trustable? These days I am totally out of touch with anything that is South Asian by living in a western country.
 
OP treating these 2 countries like pawns in a virtual game .. what a shame...

But yeah, I think China will take this one, if there's no outside interference.

Its a reflection of realities.

No one wants war but as some in India have said - bring it on.
 
LOL. So you think when India will attack AJK and GB, then nuclear war wont happen? Considering our people and our mindset, there are more chances of nuclear war happening If we lose against India than India losing against us and china.

Its either this way, China and Pakistan attacking India and settling J&K, Ladakh issue once and for all.

OR

India attacking Pakistan's GB and AJK, and hurting CPEC as well and therefore inviting China into the war.

The conclusion in both situations is the same - India's loss or for you, Nuclear War.

This is inevitable.

So you think India is very much capable of attacking Pakistan AJK and Pakistan will stay silent? Indian politicians are fascists but they are not totally nutcases. They are well aware of committing such a suicide act. Their anti-Pakistan comments are for domestic consumption.
 
For fair and accurate news which indian channels are trustable? These days I am totally out of touch with anything that is South Asian by living in a western country.

NDTV only i believe.

ANI is the worst, they were caught with their pants down, alongwith their camp of Republic TV, Zee News etc.
 
So you think India is very much capable of attacking Pakistan AJK and Pakistan will stay silent? Indian politicians are fascists but they are not totally nutcases. They are well aware of committing such a suicide act. Their anti-Pakistan comments are for domestic consumption.

Read again.

The current Hindutva government has nefarious plans which are being ruined by China now.
 
Amidst growing global voices to prrssurise China wrt Covid, China had to send the message to world in one way or other.
Both countries don't want a war. Its just a display of power from China to forewarn the intl community and assess their response. China is likely to prolong this situation till the message is loud and clear.
 
Tough to say really.

China can afford a long drawn out war with it's resources and economy but you never know. Other big players can intervene and change things dramatically too.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.
 
Tough to say really.

China can afford a long drawn out war with it's resources and economy but you never know. Other big players can intervene and change things dramatically too.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

Just like the US Carrier was coming to the help of biggest non nato ally Pakistan :))

And im not even kidding, Nixon and co. hated India.

This time its neither that level of hate and nor America is going to come. Stop putting up false hopes for yourself.
 
If these two countries go to war, then Kashmir will get it’s freedom as Pakistan will grab this opportunity.

But I don’t think India are that stupid so they will try to calm things down.
 
Tough to say really.

China can afford a long drawn out war with it's resources and economy but you never know. Other big players can intervene and change things dramatically too.

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

Bro there are more chances of an IPL team beating any International T20 Team than India winning a war against China.

Just hope it ends as soon as possible and we are not embarrassed further. Don't want to see a repeat of Abhinandan and our fighters eating Haka Noodles this time.

It's because of our irresponsible and pathetic media, a war like atmosphere is created in the country. We can't even treat our corona patients, can't even help migrant workers but we are thinking of fighting China of all countries. :inti
 
The US is trying to get out of Afghanistan, I highly doubt they would want to start a war with China especially considering Iran and North Korea are also in the area.

The most US would likely do is sanctions.
 
Just like the US Carrier was coming to the help of biggest non nato ally Pakistan :))

And im not even kidding, Nixon and co. hated India.

This time its neither that level of hate and nor America is going to come. Stop putting up false hopes for yourself.

Where did I say anything about America joining India ? Stop projecting.

I just said that the big players (US/Russia/EU/NATO) will/can intervene like they did during pretty much every war in the last two centuries and that can have a big effect on the final result. Never said specifically who or whom.
 
If these two countries go to war, then Kashmir will get it’s freedom as Pakistan will grab this opportunity.

But I don’t think India are that stupid so they will try to calm things down.

There won't be a Kashmir remaining if both countries go to war, We are not Afghanistan, Libya ,Syria or Iraq.
 
Where did I say anything about America joining India ? Stop projecting.

I just said that the big players (US/Russia/EU/NATO) will/can intervene like they did during pretty much every war in the last two centuries and that can have a big effect on the final result. Never said specifically who or whom.

US is NATO and EU follows what US tells them.

Russia supports China more than they will India. They already are quiet on this. :)

I am not projecting anything but just trying to open your eyes to the delusion.
 
There won't be a Kashmir remaining if both countries go to war, We are not Afghanistan, Libya ,Syria or Iraq.

Nah, i dont think so. You guys dont have the guts, sorry but its just true.
 
Nah, i dont think so. You guys dont have the guts, sorry but its just true.

The same belief which led to invasion of Kashmir thrice only to face humiliation everytime.

I guess history has taught nothing.
 
US is NATO and EU follows what US tells them.

Russia supports China more than they will India. They already are quiet on this. :)

I am not projecting anything but just trying to open your eyes to the delusion.

US is more likely to join India than china.

Russia has its own border disputes with China so I highly doubt they'll take their side.

As I said, you never know.
 
The great Narendra Damodardas Modi and Amit Anilchandra Shah will use our MiG-21 Bisons and ensure a rousing victory to "Bharat".

Do the Chinese even know how to make chai anyway?
 
US is more likely to join India than china.

Russia has its own border disputes with China so I highly doubt they'll take their side.

As I said, you never know.

Mungeri laal ke haseen sapne. :viru

US won't join India. US will use India against China just like they used Pakistan against Afghanistan. :inti
 
The great Narendra Damodardas Modi and Amit Anilchandra Shah will use our MiG-21 Bisons and ensure a rousing victory to "Bharat".

Do the Chinese even know how to make chai anyway?

China is popular for it's noodles and bat soup these days. :inti
 
Mungeri laal ke haseen sapne. :viru

US won't join India. US will use India against China just like they used Pakistan against Afghanistan. :inti

Chotu first learn comprehending before making a raita of yourselves.

More likely to join X than Y doesn't mean it'll join X regardless.

Kaisa self loathing troll banega re tu. :inti
 
The great Narendra Damodardas Modi and Amit Anilchandra Shah will use our MiG-21 Bisons and ensure a rousing victory to "Bharat".

Do the Chinese even know how to make chai anyway?

Well they invented Tea.

Either that was a post that got too smart for its own good or you sir are a subtle genius.
 
US is more likely to join India than china.

Russia has its own border disputes with China so I highly doubt they'll take their side.

As I said, you never know.

More Likely? If you think a probability of 1% is going to make you happy then be it. But then theres 99% telling you that USA wont join and doesnt give two hoots.

Russia doesnt care. Smell the coffee, you guys are alone in this. No ones coming to save you. Your government will bend the knee.
 
No offence to Indians but this is decades of rhetoric coming from Right Wing Parties.

It's easy to Bully weaker/poorer nations like Pakistan, Kashmir, Nepal etc. and pressure Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or even it's own minorities.

This slap in the face will be an unfortunate but unwelcome news to those Indians who have bravely called out Modi's/Shah's BJP populism and hatred.

Their silence is deafening.

I highly doubt China will look to escalate, and India should jump at the chance to walk away.
 
Delhi has no heart to fight the Chinese, they never did. They have been cowering since they occupied territory in Ladakh. They wanted to keep things hush hush. However, China is turning up the heat every single day. China is doing this all with unabashed imputiny, they know the cowards in Delhi. How can you expect China to stay quiet when you openly are talking about attacking GB and AJK and hurting China's flagship CPEC project?
 
No offence to Indians but this is decades of rhetoric coming from Right Wing Parties.

It's easy to Bully weaker/poorer nations like Pakistan, Kashmir, Nepal etc. and pressure Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or even it's own minorities.

This slap in the face will be an unfortunate but unwelcome news to those Indians who have bravely called out Modi's/Shah's BJP populism and hatred.

Their silence is deafening.

I highly doubt China will look to escalate, and India should jump at the chance to walk away.

Exactly, China is happy with the Salami slicing. Doubt this will escalate, but if it does, the conclusion is inevitable. This however i am sure has buried all the GB/AJK plans.
 
Despite all the animosity between India and Pakistan, indians are blood related to us and I wish they were more capable and stronger to face Chinese aggression. Unfortunately in reality chinese are far superior and better organized, so India stand no chance in any kind of warfare.
 
More Likely? If you think a probability of 1% is going to make you happy then be it. But then theres 99% telling you that USA wont join and doesnt give two hoots.

Russia doesnt care. Smell the coffee, you guys are alone in this. No ones coming to save you. Your government will bend the knee.

These guys are spoon fed by channels like Times Now, Republic and Zee News. They don't use their own brain and always rely on others. :inti
 
These guys are spoon fed by channels like Times Now, Republic and Zee News. They don't use their own brain and always rely on others. :inti

These channels are proper cancer. Check out News laundry on YouTube, they do regular episodes on them. Eye opener for anyone who thinks that Indian media has even a shred of credibility.
 
These channels are proper cancer. Check out News laundry on YouTube, they do regular episodes on them. Eye opener for anyone who thinks that Indian media has even a shred of credibility.

It is called Godi media for a reason. :inti
 
The side that attacks will be at a disadvantage, easier to fight defensive wars than offensive. Firstly I hope there is no war, but if it comes to that hope we allow them to make the first move. Historically we have done better when forced to defend/retaliate, and only USA has the power to initiate wars and overwhelm their opponents. China is like 1% of USA when it comes to military power.
 
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The side that attacks will be at a disadvantage, easier to fight defensive wars than offensive. Firstly I hope there is no war, but if it comes to that hope we allow them to make the first move. Historically we have done better when forced to defend/retaliate, and only USA has the power to initiate wars and overwhelm their opponents. China is like 1% of USA when it comes to military power.

Its a border dispute and war between India and China, so where does US comes in this equation? Or is it just because India cant compete on its own, so you are desperately looking for a different yard stick.

On a different note:
Historically, ethnically, religiously and geographically Laddakh is part of Tibetean pleatau and its people are mainly mongoloid race like the rest of China, so has india got a valid claim to it? Just because britishers or some Maha raja conquered the barren land at some point in time, it doesn’t automatically makes it an Indian territory.

Also similarly i ve observed that there are many Mongoloid race people in various states of India along the Himalyan border with China, Bhutan, Nepal etc but not many “Indian looking” people on the otherside of Himalayas in Chinese territory. So “if” the race is one measure of determination that who is occupying whose land, it’s actually India that occupying Chinese territory in multiple border regions.
 
I am hoping that better sense prevails and all 3 countries get round a table and solve these problems. As someone with a Kashmiri background, I want Kashmiris to get a choice to decide.
 
Sorry Indians no one will come to intervene on behalf of India in your ear with China. Can India handle two hot borders at the same time?
 
A good read for people who think Unkil Sam will jump in on their side..


US mum so far on India-China spat
WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump on Tuesday squarely blamed China for the origins of the coronavirus pandemic while pledging the American economy would come back stronger than before, even as he stayed mum on the bloody India-China border spat.

At a White House Rose Garden event where he signed an executive order direct some modest police reforms, Trump rejected calls to defund or disband the police, talked up the US economy, referred twice to the coronavirus coming from China, but did not allude to the border clash between India and China despite having previously offered to mediate between the two sides.


The State Department too did not react to the growing tensions (till the time of writing this) even as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo flew out to Hawaii to meet top Chinese diplomat Yang Jiechi, a state councilor and member of the Communist Party’s powerful politburo, to discuss their own frayed ties.


The meeting comes amid reports that China is warming up to the idea of a Trump second term.


“Donald Trump has argued frequently of late that China is rooting for Joe Biden come November’s US. presidential election. In Beijing, however, officials have come around to support four more years of Trump,” a Bloomberg report said ahead of the Hawaii meeting, quoting a former Chinese trade negotiator as saying, “If Biden is elected, I think this could be more dangerous for China, because he will work with allies to target China, whereas Trump is destroying US. alliances.”


Trump had repeatedly praised China’s leader Xi JinPing and talked up his personal friendship before the coronavirus pandemic soured him on Beijing. On Tuesday he again referred to the virus coming out of China and affecting more than 200 countries, saying, "We will soon be in a stronger position than we were before. The plague came in from China."


But there was reference to the border clash, as the US President took no questions after signing the executive order. He was also silence on the matter on his Twitter feed, where he is usually voluble about such things.


The US President typically receives a daily intelligence briefing first thing on the morning on urgent domestic and global issues, particularly international tensions.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/76412456.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
 
China will win hands down if it is only China vs India. However that wont be the case, India could have support from countries like US, possibly Nato etc, so China would be in a bit of trouble.. Russians will stay out of it, so China pretty much is on their own..
 
China will win hands down if it is only China vs India. However that wont be the case, India could have support from countries like US, possibly Nato etc, so China would be in a bit of trouble.. Russians will stay out of it, so China pretty much is on their own..

But, why would USA get involved? They have no interest in that region like they have in Iraq or Afghanistan.
 
But, why would USA get involved? They have no interest in that region like they have in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Yeah you got a point I guess, China is America's best friend, it is clearly there for everyone to see over the last decade or so... I am not saying USA will definitely come to help India but signs are there for everyone to see, the Americans have even passed a bill against the mistreatment of Ughyur Muslims (Just picture this for a minute, US fighting for Muslims what UMMA should be doing :)) ) forming alliance like the IPAC etc are all focused on their best friend China. US OF A is doing just about anything to weaken China..
 
China will win hands down if it is only China vs India. However that wont be the case, India could have support from countries like US, possibly Nato etc, so China would be in a bit of trouble.. Russians will stay out of it, so China pretty much is on their own..

US def won’t get involved. At most they will put out a strong condemnation like they did with Russia and Crimea
 
Limited war, no one will win. Long war, China will win it easily. US won't get involved.

Both sides have lost 20-40 lives during physical fights and I am sure that both will be looking to not take it further.
 
US def won’t get involved. At most they will put out a strong condemnation like they did with Russia and Crimea

Yeah that’s as far as the US will go. People in the US don’t want war, they didn’t even properly retaliate after Iran attacked their troops. I doubt they are going to get involved in a major war because India got attacked.
 
I am an Indian, it would be difficult to match China in limited or full fledged war. No one wins in the war at the end of the day.
 
Do you miss any opportunity to bash India?

Does this look like bashing to you?

'Be warned, this is not India of 1962' and those two hash tags came from Times Now's prime time show yesterday. You should ask them why were they bashing India. :inti
 
If a couple dozen soldiers have died and strategically important physical positions have changed hands then for all practical purposes ‘limited war’ has already happened.

Neither India nor China want to occupy large swathes of each other’s countries so there would be no point to a conventional war. They were fighting for a small sliver of strategically important land in an unpopulated area. This was limited war and it is clear who had the upper hand.
 
Indian’s boycott of China isn’t off to a good start

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Its a border dispute and war between India and China, so where does US comes in this equation? Or is it just because India cant compete on its own, so you are desperately looking for a different yard stick.

Maybe if you read it again you will get it, this time slowly. US is the only country on the planet that can launch offensive operations and win, China isn't anywhere close to that level. So if we fight a defensive war it will become an unsustainable operation for them.
 
Look at our trade defcit with China. There won't be any war, relax. At max we'll hear about border skirmishes more often.
 
Look at our trade defcit with China. There won't be any war, relax. At max we'll hear about border skirmishes more often.

This is the baniya mentality which has helped indians survive. Offer something to the powerful so that they let you live and remain useful to them.
 
China and India have accused each other of provoking fighting in which at least 20 Indian soldiers were killed in a disputed Himalayan border area.

Soldiers reportedly brawled with sticks, bats and bamboo sticks studded with nails in the late-night confrontation in the Ladakh region on Monday.

However, no shots were fired.

India's army said that both sides suffered casualties. China confirmed the incident but did not give details.

The Indian statement notes that injured soldiers were "exposed to sub-zero temperatures in the high altitude terrain".

An extraordinary escalation 'with rocks and clubs'
It is the first deadly clash between the two sides in the border area, in the disputed Kashmir region, in at least 45 years.

India said China had tried to "unilaterally change the status quo". Beijing accused Indian troops of "attacking Chinese personnel".

The two armies later held talks to try to defuse tensions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53073338
 
a limited war with China can only occur in the Northern Sector. In august 2019 I would have said India had a fair chance of giving China some real problems and even moving border lines. Now that cannot happen. The modi govt and its military planners have made some vital errors without understanding the wider strategic position. This isnt 1962 or 67. They made the same mistake on feb26th where they thought it was the Pakistan of 1999.

Unfortunately they have made things more dangerous for everyone.
 
This is the baniya mentality which has helped indians survive. Offer something to the powerful so that they let you live and remain useful to them.

The baniyas are the votebank of Modi thats why Xi has been given extraordinary welcome every single time, I'm sure Traders are still trying their best this doesn't go downhill if not by now, India should had actually boycotted goods from China officially.
 
The baniyas are the votebank of Modi thats why Xi has been given extraordinary welcome every single time, I'm sure Traders are still trying their best this doesn't go downhill if not by now, India should had actually boycotted goods from China officially.

you are being emotional. China is not an enemy. It is in India's interest to maintain trade relations. jingoism is for the unwashed hoi polloi, don't become that.
 
you are being emotional. China is not an enemy. It is in India's interest to maintain trade relations. jingoism is for the unwashed hoi polloi, don't become that.

No thanks ,its not. There is no point of trade with China which they will always manage to dominate and influence our internal situation only Baniya mentality people will support China after this.

They can carry out with world domination, congratulations to them.
 
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Indian soldiers brought cricket bats to the fight?

Keyboard-warriors are on full-force..

I can see Indians- Pakistanis being happy at each other’s misfortune. It’s only natural for them. But what amazes me is cowardice of these posters. Human lives are lost at the border conflict. And most of you would hide inside your house if you meet a barking dog on the street. And yet you have gallbladder to make fun of these soldiers?

How amusing yet typical!
 
No thanks ,its not. There is no point of trade with China which they will always manage to dominate and influence our internal situation only Baniya mentality people will support China after this.

They can carry out with world domination, congratulations to them.

ok, if that settles your emotions which have been running wild since yesterday, please boycott everything chinese.

should give a disclaimer: I also work for a chinese client. has been a mutually beneficial relationship.
 
Indian military put on high alert on border, Indian Ocean: Report

Army and Air Force bases along India's Ladakh border with China have been put on high alert following a clash between the two country's militaries that left 20 Indian soldiers dead, the Times of India has reported.

The Indian Navy was also put on high alert in the Indian Ocean, according to the report.

Both China and India had increased their presence in the border region before the deadly confrontation.
 
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